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Thanks a lot.

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There's a part of my bio that sounds really depressing.

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I remember I was at one point I was like, God he sounds a bit depressing and gloomy.

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So hopefully that's not the case, but we'll find out.

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So normally you want to stand up and tell people who you are.

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So I've been you've done that bit.

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Thank you that my Twitter is there if anyone's online and

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wants to have a look and tweet me and I'll retweet you and things like that.

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And I think the first thing I need to start by saying is.

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I am not representative of the LGBT plus community because I don't think one

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person can do four letters and a plus at the end.

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So what I've done is asked a few friends of mine and

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people I know to tell me what it means to them to be either L or B or T.

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And I am going to weave that in as we go along so

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there is a couple of other people who've contributed this.

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It's not just me because I think it's quite a big responsibility for

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one person to say what does it mean to be LGBT plus today.

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There were other titles I was playing with what does pride mean today,

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what does life mean today?

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But tend to that one [LAUGH].

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I think this is really important because I think a lot of people, and

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my background is marketing in coms, put LGBT in one place.

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So have LGBT History Month much like we have Black History Month.

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And that's one thing like that's over there.

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So I'm hoping that I can kind of unpick that a little bit and

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tell you what it means through three things.

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I wouldn't be a communicator if there wasn't three things that have some

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kind of alliteration.

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I will tell you three things today.

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And I'll round it up as we get to the end.

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But they all start with P, so hopefully we can remember what they are.

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So what does it means to be LGBT plus today, the first P, presence.

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So I think being LGBT plus today through things like having the rainbow flag,

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there was one I just outside this one on the building.

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I think presence is a huge, huge, huge thing for

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what it means to be LGBT plus today.

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I think most people if they are from within that community wonder where

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are people like me and how do I find people who get what I'm going through?

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And I think that's something I had.

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Growing up, I still have it today.

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I had a Twitter debate with someone last weekend, and she said to me, I said,

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not everyone walks around with a mirror in front of them.

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And I went well actually, if you're in the closet and

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you spent a long time growing up, you sometimes do that.

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Because you're wondering what do people think about me?

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And I'm safe in this environment and do people accept me for who I am.

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And I think what's so interesting for

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me was when only when I stands up I'm very aware that I am an Asian man.

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But I sound like this and I dress like this and I talk the way I do and

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then I go to India people look at me and think you're an Indian man.

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But actually I'm not I've been British.

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Ima so I think presence is really important for what it means to be LGBT

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plus today because you just become very aware you're hypersensitive.

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I think to to how you walk into rooms and that's definitely my felt experience.

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I've been to a few training, sessions were have among the LGBT group who were said,

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it's exactly the same thing, and I see individual experience.

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And this was from Polly who's the director of strategic partnership at

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pride in London, she's a lesbian woman, she came out kind of later in life.

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She said there's still an issue with visibility.

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When we talk to lesbians who were out years ago, in particular on 1967.

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They talked about feeling invisible.

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Now, it's a lot better than it used to be, but it's a challenge.

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A lot of events are focused on gay men and women are an afterthought.

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I think that's quite fair.

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the people who were asking questions were predominantly men.

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to go, why don't you ask a woman the question?

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Can often be inferred to be very diverse and it's not always the most inclusive

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place and I think that's something we have to be really mindful of when you

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try to bucket people into one room, but then actually realize there's so

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much difference and so much diversity within that group.

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This is a point to make Polly's point,

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which is does it matter that the nightlife for queer women in London is kinda dead.

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And this was about a year ago on vice.

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There's only two lesbian bars in London which I think is absolutely shocking.

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There's a bigger fabric, so that's the question what does it mean to be LGBT plus

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today, it means finding a space and more and more those spaces are going online.

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For me, I think I see the hate say I see the younger generation but

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I see younger people.

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I asked amazing but also quite worrying.

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Where are you building up empathy and compassion and back to that point of.

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If I'm thinking, growing up for me, I walked into every room and thought, God,

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how am I being seen?

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how am I being seen online that can be quite a scary thing for people.

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These sorts of spaces because that is the best way to become visible.

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I could spend a whole, that is a whole different chapter on the online.

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You should you live your life that way and I would love to do that separate point.

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Probably not one for LGBT history month but I think.

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as society is becoming more inclusive,

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there is something about this community or the other is really nice.

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And tight knit and having the right places like this are really important.

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And I wrote this 2015.

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Wow, through two and a half years ago, can a Muslim be gay?

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I said yes, exhibit A.

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So, when I was University, I went and did a year abroad.

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And I went and worked for the Financial Times Scotland.

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again being a British Indian man in Germany was quite fun.

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Try to change people's perceptions, but I was there and recording podcasts.

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I thought I really want to be a writer, that's exactly what I want to do And

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then I realized 2010 financial crisis don't do that.

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you become a doctor or a lawyer, a dentist So, writer doesn't fit any of those three.

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But I thought maybe I'll get him working PR and working column.

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And I did that and I still do that, where I work with companies and

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big businesses on how they position themselves which is usually fascinating.

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But I think in about 2012, I had an itch and that itch came from not seeing

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Asians and Indians and Muslims in particular in the media And

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the only way I saw them were with the words Islamophobic terrorist.

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I thought that's not cool, I should change that.

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So I wrote to the Huffington Post and said, can I write about Channel Four?

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They put the call to prayer on Channel Four three in the morning.

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So this is cool She writes about it.

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And Huffington Post said, yeah, cool.

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Write your column and I was writing things and that built up a profile.

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And the one thing I wasn't writing about was the word at the end there.

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I wasn't writing about being gay because I wasn't really out.

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I was with some of the time and he said You should probably

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write about the gay thing cuz people will be really interested in that.

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And I said I should probably tell my mum first.

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then that relationship ended but I thought.

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that Point of Presence, I felt like I didn't have a presence in the media.

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And that was quite scary because in that year,

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the only two stories are sore about being Gay and Muslim.

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If you type those words in were a person who had been outed to their family and

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then had jumped off and suddenly killed themselves and I thought.

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Wow, how does that happen and happening?

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Like a salubrious suburb of Northwest London?

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I thought as 2014-15 like come on that doesn't that shouldn't happen and

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that's why I draw the parallels to the 1980s.

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things like that happen in other countries, but this is Britain.

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Like, how can that be happening?

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And then the other one was?

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Shereen Diwani.

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I don't know if anyone remembers the case of Shereen Diwani,

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I think in South Africa where there were accusations that

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he had killed his wife because he was in the closet.

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And I remember just sat there going.

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How is this the only thing that I'm hearing?

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I've got to change that, so I know all right,

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this kind of Muslim be gay because only presence we need a presence.

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We need to be out there needs to be visible.

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And this is what this is showing my age.

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This is what I used to ask Jeeves when I grew up.

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people who don't know was a search engine and

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you would ask questions through Jeeves, this technology buffer.

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So I did that and why that then was important was.

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I think got lots of phone calls from other people who said, God,

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I never knew that was possible and I have been waiting for something like this.

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And there was someone who had contacted me and

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said he was in his 50s silver is just in his 50s.

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He's in his 50s and I've been in the closet for all my life.

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I've got two kids, I've just got divorced.

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This is I know why I've got divorced.

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wow, like these are conversations that are not happening because it's so

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difficult to go back into Asian community and have that conversation.

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Because we've not had a Tom Daley moment I call it we come on lady, but

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we've not had that moment within within the Muslim community.

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So for me being LGBT today is about being present.

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Not just about being present in a room and looking around you but being present so

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that other people can see and acting as a bit of a role model to others.

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To say we are here, there are gay Muslims out there,

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not just because the media find that interesting.

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also because you build a community.

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Now, part of the board of Imam, which is a group of LGBT Muslims and it's amazing.

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Whiat they can do like every year at Prides like they are the show-stopping

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parade group because they remember turning cold.

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I did, we turn a corner was like, yeah,

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we're turning Corners platform quite literally with the Packard and.

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A woman said, God, I can not believe you exist.

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Carry on and she meant it in a way of like, God, you just have to be present.

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And you have got to think even though there are all the haters haters are going

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to hate like you have got to be present.

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Classes about that's why things like LGBT history month also important because yes,

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it's once a year and the rainbow flags out there but

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it's present, people are talking about it.

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If they're not talking about it, then there's no progress.

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So that's the first p presence, second p is protest.

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So what does it mean to be LGBT plus today, it means a form of protest now

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Bear with me.This was from Jackie Gavin, who is a transactivist.

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an acceptance than I ever thought there would be.

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That to me comes from the world of protest.

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Because people before have protested for someone like Jackie to be out and

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be open and be public about it.

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And a lot of people think of protests like this.

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They think protest is of cardboard box and writing on it and that is the protest.

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That is absolutely a form of protest and, I think we would all be killing ourselves

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if we didn't think that was but for me, I think protest today is taking a new form.

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a corporate company versus writing in the financial situation, I think.

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protest starts to look like this.

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So this is pride a couple of years ago I think and it's Barclays they sponsor

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pride, and they had a bus and it's like freedom to make a statement.

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say, well actually this is very corporate and being corporate and

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being LGBT to different things because the corporate holds.

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some of these big corporate companies are life-changing entities.

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testing ideas, and you think about yourself,

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to then stepping into an environment.

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Full of profit margins and trying to make a living that doesn't have that space and

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I think that's huge progress for a lot of people not least things like a bank and

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some of what you might expect to be the world's most,

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like small-minded places are actually not.

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The army the Navy,

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this is the 10th year marching in pride Like this is amazing progress.

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Third P, I've just given you a spoiler, but

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also this is a new form of protest to me.

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I personally do believe it is because I've been through the process.

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I think being part of the board of Pride.

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I see the amount of effort that goes in of people within their workplace is

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having those difficult conversations to say well, why should we support this.

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50s who've never had to interact with an LGBT person saying?

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God, I didn't know and I think that that's really, really important.

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And, I am part of something called pride and pride in advertising marketing we did.

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This was really insightful.

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their agencies to recreate ads that LGBT+ audiences.

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you have to be able to see it to be it, so I remember looking around an H and

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M advert and I thought God I don't see anyone like me here, too.

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Well that doesn't make sense, and I think the same exists for the LGBT community.

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continually challenging stereotypes and continually challenging the status quo.

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So we challenge brands and we said look, give brands a makeover, take an advert,

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change it, there's all sorts of legal implications of doing something that.

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we had a brand makeover.

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show us like what it might be like if you had Rupaul In a Snickers adverb,

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people more than go all a bit stereotypical but it kind of works because

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it starts the conversation and that's a form of protest in my mind.

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That's the form of process of people sitting around a table and going hang

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on a minute, where am I, because I need to be present in this output because

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this output means so much to other people young people look at adverts.

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We all look at adverts, we all look at communications and wonder,

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this is shaping who we are.

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No more is still important Dante at Tom Daley's back no more, so

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important then just last week,

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there's a current tension I see within the media about how things are working out.

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So, Sensor Parks Polls they are advertising in the Daily Mail because

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of an article, this article by Richard Littlejohn, he said please

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don't pretend two dads is the new normal and as a result this happened.

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This for me is really fascinating, because, first of all,

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it makes me think about bear with me, but it makes me think about Weimar and

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a third reich in Germany, because this is actually about the freedom of the press.

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is the press really free to critique from the right wing?

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Because what they did was critique, right they critiqued how it came out,

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and Richard Littlejohn has a history of doing but to an extent where

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you would label it homophobia, but is that allowed within the press?

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And I think for me when you look at the banner of protests,

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there's a lot of nuance here, but we have to dissect this, I think and say,

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well, what does this actually mean?

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Should the Daily Mail be known for that?

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Should an advertiser take their money away from a publication on

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accounts of that publications right to write what they want and critique.

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And what I'm learning I think being an LGBT plus person working in the media,

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comes from an experience that a campaign that I work on last year,

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which was HSBC had 10 gender neutral titles.

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And they had said, if you are transitioning,

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it doesn't matter whether you are MX, you can change your title,

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HSBC, because we know we want to be there and this for me was phenomenal.

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If you ever go on to work in PR, what you do is you find a nugget of a story and

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you tell that story, the best you can and we found Stuart Burette,

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he was an activist, he was within HSBC, he had transitioned,

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and he said, look why is it such a difficult process.

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It shouldn't be so hard and gave that feedback to the business,

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they then changed their policy, we then said,

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let's tell that story because people should know about that.

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So Mail Online actually ran the story in it was quite a positive

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piece about the gender neutral options,

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obviously the comment pieces that came out were spent to PC.

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I remember being in the middle of the office when Louise Echols called and

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said sub just how I've had the press release, I wanna talk to Stuart and

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I was like, my God, like what is she gonna ask him?.

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This is suicide like career suicide, what do you do?

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And actually she said to me, the thing is within the media,

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there's just no education of LGBT matters, because when you really think about it,

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how many well known trans journalists do you know?

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So where are you gonna get your knowledge from?

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So back to that point about presidents, it's you've got to be present and

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then the more present you get, the more you have to protest because

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you've got to educate within that level of protests.

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And I think for me that was really telling and

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I'm you know, the the conclusion of center part was absolutely right

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Richard Littlejohn Tom Daley doesn't look like that's an ongoing debate.

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I'd love to have that one over a drink, because I think it's really

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interesting about just what role the press is playing within the broader

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LGBT plus narrative and what it means to be within the community.

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This, like a really proud point was then, a week later RBS and

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Lloyds also offered the same title, so back to that point of protest.

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Sometimes protest doesn't need to be the cardboard box with the writing

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on it sometimes there are other ways to do it, and I think we really by telling

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that story I still feel so proud about it not as proud as Stuart should.

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But by telling the story you have a knock on effect,

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a new passports possibly becoming more more gender neutral, it's just amazing.

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So I think that's that's the thing about being LGBT, is that that level of protest.

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I think I'm quite good for time so I'm probably gonna go a little bit quicker

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than I thought but it means more time for questions and more time for drinks.

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Progress, so if you think about what it means to be LGBT+ today,

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does it mean progress?

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There is a reason there is a question mark at the end, and

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I think it comes back to the pont about the four letters and a Bi person,

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Chloe Davis, she has a pro-community engagement.

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So her role is to go and

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find the communities who are under represented in pride and talk to them and

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say, do you feel like you can protest, do you feel like you can parade?

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And I said, what does it mean to be bi?

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And she said it means being judged and misunderstood.

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I face more discrimination from within the LGBT+ community than from outside it,

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some call me greedy, others need to label me and put me in a box,

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you just haven't met the right man or woman yet.

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I'm attracted to the energy of a person if the connection is right,

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and the agenda doesn't matter.

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And this for me like, this blew me away a little bit,

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because I think it's really easy to get into stereotypes, and

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one of the things I've discovered since coming out and writing what I've done is,

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the LGBT community loves a label, more so than any community I know.

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because what they do is push people into something that they probably aren't,

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or push people into thinking they should be something they're not just in order to

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fit within that spectrum, and this quote for me really brings that to life.

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And I think as people who are part of the community, it's about being aware of that,

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and about saying well, what are we doing, and do we all understand each other?

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And for people outside, to say well actually, are we tarnishing everyone

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with same LGBT, like we've done it, let's check, have we really done it?

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Because I would actually challenge that we probably haven't, couple of examples.

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So there was a piece in attitude young queer people shouldn't be obliged

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to care about LGBT history and that's the biggest sign of success there is.

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This is one of those pieces where you look at it and go what, but

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I think it's brilliant that it's been written,

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because it brings out a conversation that I think in today's day and

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age may be happening over a pint, but aren't happening publicly.

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Which is what do younger people feel about the older generation?

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And that's why I feel that I can draw this really a nice tangent

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between coming out as a 20-something,

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now 30-something-year-old gay muslim man in 2018, and

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actually the experience for a lot of people in the 70s and 80s.

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Because when I talked about that example of the balcony and

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the suicide, I think within the younger white British community that

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would be quite unheard of and if it happened would be unreported.

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it just wasn't reported cuz we didn't have the Internet, in the same way we do now.

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So this for me is what it means to be LGBT today,

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it's about having these conversations.

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About who are the giants on whose shoulders we stand we now stand.

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And what did they do for us in order to get to where we are for Tom Daley, for

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example, to be in a position to put a picture on Instagram of an unborn

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child it blows my mind because you could not have imagined that I think.

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And so why are we changing how we react and how we feel and also,

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I know from going into school, so I was a school role model for Stonewall.

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we want to put your face on a poster, I was finally I'm a poster boy.

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you had my face on it and it's about being gay and Muslim not being gay or Muslim.

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That's quite good slice playing with words and aural as they put them in schools and

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I thought I didn't actually think through what would happen, I just saw poster boy.

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I was invited to speak at a school in West London, and

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the person who'd gone in before was a British white man in his 40s,

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I think he might have even been a priest, I think.

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He'd gone in and I said, well, what was wrong with that?

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He said well this school Asad is 80% Muslim,

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I went okay, cuz what happens is, and I am talking quite glib terms, so

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please excuse me if it sounds offensive, it is not meant that way,

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which is if a white person stands in front of a room of brown people,

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brown people will often go that's their problem, that is not my problem.

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Just talking quite glibly, so what happened in

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that room was the kids were like, being gay is not a brown problem,

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it is a white problem because I only see white people who are gay.

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And so then [LAUGH] I saw the poster went up, and

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I was there, and you just saw the kids go, hang on a minute.

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He sounds a bit like me grew up in just down the road and Harrow,

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this could be something and one kid came up to me at the end and

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I just knew she was suffering or struggling with her sexuality,

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and just came up and looked at me and thank you so much.

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And it was that look and that one saying where I thought,

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she just needed to hear this and I felt really touched I could help her,

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but then there was one kid who came up to me and said so

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we saw the posters sort of poster, I went home to my dad.

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And I think this this kid was of Iranian or Iraqi heritage and said,

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saw the posters, my dad was actually gonna take me out of school today,

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he did not want me to come to school because of this talk.

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I went, jokes, but you could have a day off and he went,

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no, but you have to come because of school and that, and I was cool.

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So I spoke to my dad and he said, tell him at the end that he should go home and

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pray, because maybe that will absolve it and he'll be better and I said to him

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I've been doing that for a long time, let me tell you, [LAUGH] hasn't worked.

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Maybe you should go home and pray that your mind opens, because if that happens,

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and you grow up in narrow country that who's the fabric is changing so

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much, he'll be able to talk to people who are writing things like this and

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actually have a reasonable debate, versus a the, and us type discussion.

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which is really how much progress is there if kids and parents,

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aren't teaching or surrounded by different views and different views

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that can shape what people think of the LGBT community and the fabric of it.

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Because if people see it as Tom Daley, white gay man, yes,

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that's one part of it, but what else is it is there?

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And now back to the present bit, what are people saying?

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So, for me, the progress is still there, there's still a lot more to go, but

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I am quite hopeful just because we need to allow our opinions like this.

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We have to, we can't get into the filter Bubbles and our Facebook feeds like

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we are because then we won't hear it and this is how another viewpoint will grow.

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And then finally, this is the article that I wrote for

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The Guardian at the end of last year, LGBT community should be havens of tolerance.

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Instead, racism is rife with this is born out of a few things which was Owen Jones

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had written in the Guardian, Owen Jones to people that knows people are nodding,

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he's very well known, and he wrote about racism on the scene.

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That's really interesting, a white man telling me about racism on the scene.

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[LAUGH] Can I write about it, please?

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[LAUGH] And he said, yeah sure so then I wrote this piece and this actually stemmed

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from, again a story and I'll tell you the story, at the end to finish it off.

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No, I won't do that, cuz there's quite a better way to end it.

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>> [LAUGH] >> I'll tell you the story and

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then do that, then I'll tell you what I told you, but at the end.

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But when I came out, I thought,

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I felt very liberated there's a moment actually, when you come out and

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all of that stress that's living somewhere in your body just goes,

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it comes back because your body relapses but it goes and your shoulders, just go.

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[SOUND] And then you, for me my experience was then I was termed the LGBT community,

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I was hang on where's the presence?

453
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Where's the people like me all of a sudden I'm now like out of the frying pan into

454
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the fire like there's something, well, that's quite a religious term, isn't it?

455
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>> [LAUGH] >> But there was something about that, and

456
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I felt like I've had to keep talking about this, which was the LGBT community is for

457
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me being LGBT needs to be about flexing a bit more.

458
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It needs to be about accepting cuz a lot of people say, well,

459
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you can't be Muslim be gay because like even your Islamophobic

460
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are homophobic you've got me one or the other.

461
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Why can't I just be neither,

462
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because actually if you really investigate the Quran and you investigate Islam,

463
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there are a couple of, I'm not gonna say loopholes is the wrong word.

464
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>> [LAUGH] >> There are a couple of there

465
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are a couple of unknowns and

466
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you're talking about a script that was written 1400 years ago,

467
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I can barely remember what I wrote 14 days ago, I mean 1400 years ago.

468
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Things change, slightly changes and

469
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actually society is what has changed how we view people.

470
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And so here's my story example, then I'll break up and

471
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then we'll finish and then we'll have a drink.

472
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So I was out with my friends Sam,

473
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Sam sounds absolutely brilliant Samri's her name is, she said let's catch up,

474
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called let's catch up and then we went to a bar in SoHo, she said I love

475
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going to gay bars it will be fun I was yeah cool, let's go Friday night.

476
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And so we went and we were just like catching up and

477
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having a really nice time, and this guy came up to me, I was like, here we go.

478
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And he went, gosh so you're aware.

479
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We're like, so what's your name?

480
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It was like, I'm Asad, and he went and told me his name and then he said, so

481
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where are you from?

482
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And I said I'm from Harrow North London, how about you?

483
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He's like, no, but where are you from?

484
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I must know it's Hatch End it's a small village of Harrow from

485
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the overground zone six, he went no but where you really from?

486
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Well London, he went no, where where you're really from?

487
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And I went, well, my parents are Indian if you must know, and

488
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he said, so you must be Hindu?

489
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And I went no, I'm Muslim, and he went, so did you support ISIS then?

490
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I went really where chance hotline this is [LAUGH] really where chats online.

491
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And then I thought, gosh, how can that exist in the in the LGBT space that

492
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we're fighting so hard to create and keep open I mentioned earlier.

493
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How can I exist when we've protested and fought so

494
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hard to be tolerant and open, that someone legitimately on

495
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a Friday night has asked me if I support ISIS in a gay bar?

496
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You can't make that up, so then I wrote about it in The Guardian cuz I felt

497
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that would be quite jokes, I hope he's ready it, I don't know who he is.

498
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>> [LAUGH] >> But but it is it's things like that

499
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where you and that's the point about the Venn, the Venn diagram, which is I think

500
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a lot of people get get to where you're part of the LGBT community, aren't you?

501
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And actually, you're not your part, you're so many other things, but

502
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there are so many things about people it's so easy to put a label on them.

503
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I think that for me is what it is about what it is to be LGBT + today,

504
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it is about that presence being out there it is about the protest in new forms,

505
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but ultimately is about the progress that still needs to happen.

506
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Because I think hopefully maybe in 20 or 30 years time,

507
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we're not really talking about what does it mean to be LGBT today?

508
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We're talking about something else, and actually, just being LGBT is is,

509
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it doesn't mean anything, it just is, so yeah, that's my talk.

510
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>> [APPLAUSE]