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So continuing to talk to Wilkinson,

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you mentioned briefly that I rather ran over it at the beginning that you'd actually be involved in volunteering to carry out vaccine clinics.

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How did that come about? Yeah, so early in the pandemic, when they were looking at doctors, how could we contribute?

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And then vaccines came along and there was a big opportunity for doctors to get involved in

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vaccinating not just the countries that do very impractical procedures and done for many years,

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but say through that and I trained in giving the vaccines and I've been running

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to participate in vaccine clinics in general practise since the first wave.

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We're now running the booster clinics, and that's that's been really rewarding.

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So how much of your time, you know, we keep doing and doing clinics from your average day.

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I mean, you tend to give to a clinic every week, maybe every two weeks.

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So that's 60, 70 patients usually in a batch.

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And that's been really interesting, both in terms of, you know, face to face with people who are living through the pandemic and having the vaccines.

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And you'd expect only the hopes and fears and the worries about people coming for vaccines,

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everything from will this vaccine give me a blood clot to, you know, can it can can my friend have it while she's sitting in the waiting room?

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So there's all those kind of real life engagements of the boss, which is much more.

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It was it should be. It's actually been a very positive experience. Me personally, again, feeling I'm doing something useful.

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But also 99.9% of people are so grateful.

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They really understand what a triumph the vaccines have been.

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They're very proud to be British and being on oxygen, they're very prone to forgetting oxygen.

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I remember the first one who's going kind have the oxygen is this the oxygen took the 50% the time.

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It wasn't, it wasn't I wasn't, it was kind of random which got so that's been good kind of sort of thoughts

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and pride about being in this at the institution that developed the vaccine. Although of course I have no credit whatsoever for the vaccine itself.

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So that's been great fun together, seeing, seeing people appreciate it. And then as people come back to the second dose now for the booster,

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you sort of see again how the population's views about this whole thing is evolving.

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What we talked about earlier, it's going from being is brand new, exciting but really scary thing through.

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It's a bit of a booster and I'm hoping to go on holiday and can I have my passport and those sorts of things.

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So again, seeing the evolution of, if you like, the society implications of the of the,

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of the pandemic coming through and whilst doing something sort of prompt and appreciating.

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So that's been I have a golden goose at the end of.