1 00:00:01,780 --> 00:00:09,790 You have to abide by clinical method and clinical method starts with taking a history and then you examine the patient and 2 00:00:09,790 --> 00:00:16,330 then you plan your investigations and then you interpret and then you try and make a diagnosis and then you plan treatment. 3 00:00:16,330 --> 00:00:21,850 You don't start slamming treatment into people as they come through the door and ordering a CT scan. 4 00:00:21,850 --> 00:00:24,550 And because you make mistakes if you do that. 5 00:00:24,550 --> 00:00:31,870 And that's how I was taught and that's how I've seen the great physicians and doctors that I've worked with, is that we start at the beginning. 6 00:00:31,870 --> 00:00:43,390 And I just I, I just worry sometimes that medicine is going so fast, so technical that that's forgotten. 7 00:00:43,390 --> 00:00:47,320 I also I'm glad we choose students. You've got him. 8 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:55,810 You've got some emotional maturity because you can do all this stuff. 9 00:00:55,810 --> 00:01:04,290 But actually, if the patients find you not human and engaging, it causes immense amount of trouble. 10 00:01:04,290 --> 00:01:10,450 And all the difficulties we have is when quite clever, good doctors don't handle people correctly. 11 00:01:10,450 --> 00:01:19,820 And I think the little things that doing the communication skills that they do with the posture and the the fact that we've now got stable housing, 12 00:01:19,820 --> 00:01:25,690 there's a good talking about end of life care. Yeah. Which I'm not I don't remember. 13 00:01:25,690 --> 00:01:31,810 I was to talk about end of life care when I was a student. So, um, I do think I'm very lucky. 14 00:01:31,810 --> 00:01:41,710 I just I have something like a like a dinosaur, but I just hope that in this great rush of technological advance, 15 00:01:41,710 --> 00:01:49,930 we don't forget that the doctors actually work at different level, at work, at a human level, human nature. 16 00:01:49,930 --> 00:01:52,890 Chris, thank you very much indeed. Superb interview.