1 00:00:17,650 --> 00:00:26,460 Good evening, everyone, and thank you for joining us for the first event in a series of four terror lectures in American art. 2 00:00:26,460 --> 00:00:32,940 This series is sponsored by the Terra Foundation for American Art, which is dedicated to fostering, exploration, 3 00:00:32,940 --> 00:00:40,860 understanding and the enjoyment of the visual art of the United States for both national and international audiences. 4 00:00:40,860 --> 00:00:45,540 In collaboration with the Department of the History of Art at Oxford and Worcester College, 5 00:00:45,540 --> 00:00:50,640 the foundation grants an annual fellowship to a leading scholar in American art. 6 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:57,930 This year, Emily C. Burns is the terror visiting professor for 20, 2020 21. 7 00:00:57,930 --> 00:00:59,220 My name is Wes Williams. 8 00:00:59,220 --> 00:01:07,350 I'm a professor in French and also the director of Torch, the Oxford Research Centre in the Humanities here at the University of Oxford, 9 00:01:07,350 --> 00:01:15,540 and we are delighted to host this series, which has been included as part of the live online event series in the Humanities Cultural Programme. 10 00:01:15,540 --> 00:01:21,060 One of the founding students for the future, Stephen A. Schwarzman Centre for the Humanities. 11 00:01:21,060 --> 00:01:23,520 Throughout this evening's lecture, if you have any questions, 12 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:31,760 please feel free to type them in the YouTube chat box and we'll do our best to answer them as part of this session. 13 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:39,000 I'm delighted that this lecture will be introduced and chaired by Professor Peter Gibson. 14 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:46,500 Peter, who teaches American literature and culture in the English department at McGill University in McGreal in Canada, 15 00:01:46,500 --> 00:01:52,650 where has won four teaching awards. His publications include Mass Culture and Everyday Life. 16 00:01:52,650 --> 00:01:56,700 And Oliver Wendell Holmes and The Culture of Conversation. 17 00:01:56,700 --> 00:02:03,990 So we should be in for a treat tonight as we have all of those involved conversation and also mass culture and everyday life. 18 00:02:03,990 --> 00:02:11,460 A fine person that interested to introduce today's lecture, not least because he has also worked on a wide range of writers and artists, 19 00:02:11,460 --> 00:02:15,090 done pioneering work in social and cultural spaces from shopping malls, 20 00:02:15,090 --> 00:02:20,130 spectacles through to the experience of Flannery wandering through the streets. 21 00:02:20,130 --> 00:02:27,930 Roughly speaking, in 19th century shopping arcades and cosmopolitanism in 19th century American literature, 22 00:02:27,930 --> 00:02:34,380 once you know what we're talking about this evening, you'll realise why he's one of the best people we could imagine to introduce tonight's lecture. 23 00:02:34,380 --> 00:02:40,890 And it's my great pleasure then to welcome Peter this evening. And now, Peter, I'll hand over to you and disappear from your screens for now. 24 00:02:40,890 --> 00:02:47,180 Thank you. Thank you, West, and thank you. 25 00:02:47,180 --> 00:02:53,010 It was great to meet you at this time, actually, and thanks to all the people at church for setting up this event. 26 00:02:53,010 --> 00:02:58,290 I'd also like to thank the Terra Foundation for their support for this lecture series, 27 00:02:58,290 --> 00:03:05,700 as well as for the visiting professor programme that has brought Professor Emily Burns to Oxford for this year. 28 00:03:05,700 --> 00:03:12,600 It's a real pleasure for me to have the opportunity to introduce Emily today and in the process 29 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:20,130 to get reacquainted and updated on her work in a number of areas very close to my own interests. 30 00:03:20,130 --> 00:03:27,600 In fact, one of the outstanding things about Emily's work is that it is so wide ranging in its implications. 31 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:34,170 And so can raise stimulating questions for a diverse range of audiences, bringing together visual arts, 32 00:03:34,170 --> 00:03:39,420 literature, cultural history, intellectual history and so on and so on. 33 00:03:39,420 --> 00:03:52,320 I first met Emily several years ago at a symposium in Utah in which she was testing out initial ideas about American art and innocence and fantasy. 34 00:03:52,320 --> 00:04:01,140 Eichler Paris the ideas that broke the ground for this ambitious project she will be lecturing about in this talk series. 35 00:04:01,140 --> 00:04:08,940 So I am truly excited to be here today to see where she has taken those initial intriguing ideas. 36 00:04:08,940 --> 00:04:19,830 Emily is an Associate Professor of art history at Auburn University and a scholar of transnational exchange in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. 37 00:04:19,830 --> 00:04:29,430 Her publications include a book Transnational Frontiers The American West in France, University of Oklahoma Press 2018, 38 00:04:29,430 --> 00:04:41,790 and a Forthcoming Volume co-edited with Alice Rudy Price mapping, impressionist painting and transnational contexts, which will be out this spring. 39 00:04:41,790 --> 00:04:52,470 She has also published journal articles. Exhibition catalogue essays and anthology chapters related to art and circulation to U.S. artists in France. 40 00:04:52,470 --> 00:04:58,980 Two American Impressionism during her tenure as the Terra Foundation for American Art. 41 00:04:58,980 --> 00:05:07,530 Visiting Professor in the Department of History of Art at the University of Oxford and a visiting fellow at Worcester College, 42 00:05:07,530 --> 00:05:13,160 Professor Burns will complete a book manuscript from which today's talk comes. 43 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:20,670 Performing innocence, cultural relatedness and U.S. Art and Fantasy Zecler Paris. 44 00:05:20,670 --> 00:05:31,940 So without further ado, I will hand things over to Emily Burns. 45 00:05:31,940 --> 00:05:38,240 Thank you so much, Peter, for that kind introduction and for acting as moderator and discussions. 46 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:42,290 My thanks as well to my wonderful colleagues and students here in the history of our 47 00:05:42,290 --> 00:05:48,260 department at the University of Oxford and Worcester College for hosting me this year. 48 00:05:48,260 --> 00:05:54,230 I also want to thank Torch for managing the attack and making this lecture globally available. 49 00:05:54,230 --> 00:06:02,950 And, of course, the Terra Foundation for American Art for generously funding this professorship. 50 00:06:02,950 --> 00:06:13,210 In 1891, London's Independent printed a series of comments by Canadian novelist Gilbert Parker about American art students in Paris. 51 00:06:13,210 --> 00:06:23,800 Parker initiated his discussion. One cannot feel the force of American aspiration in culture and arts until one has seen art life in Paris. 52 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:33,670 Four years earlier, the U.S. expatriate writer Henry James made a similar claim in an article about fellow expatriate John Singer Sargent's. 53 00:06:33,670 --> 00:06:42,970 It sounds like a paradox, but it is the simple truth that when today we look for American art, we find it mainly in Paris. 54 00:06:42,970 --> 00:06:52,030 Parker and James both imply that Paris became the unlikely staging ground for U.S. art in the fantasy club as U.S. artists arrived in waves, 55 00:06:52,030 --> 00:06:59,290 building towards thousands per year over the decades between the U.S. Civil War and the start of World War One, 56 00:06:59,290 --> 00:07:04,030 hoping to tap into a lucrative market for French painting in the United States. 57 00:07:04,030 --> 00:07:12,670 Most U.S. artists took undertook academic training at the occulted bazaar, or a smaller private ateliers. 58 00:07:12,670 --> 00:07:18,250 This training was designed to build the artistic maturity suggested by Frederick Arthur Bridgeman, 59 00:07:18,250 --> 00:07:27,880 glowing the monumental history of painting funeral of a Mummy on the Nile from the late 1870s and by a photograph of Elizabeth Jane Gardner, 60 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:37,450 who lived in Paris from the 1860s and later married French painter William Adolph Boogaloo, who taught many US artists in Paris. 61 00:07:37,450 --> 00:07:46,280 Gardner pauses beside her painting of a Madonna and child holding her brush palette and miles stick to demonstrate her careful hand control. 62 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:52,150 Yeah, it's by the late 1880s, backlash ensued about this aesthetic mirroring, 63 00:07:52,150 --> 00:08:00,070 with the New York Times declaring that Bridgeman quotes by method or subject or character in paint is not American at all. 64 00:08:00,070 --> 00:08:07,960 And with critic Theodore Childs sneering that Gardner's paintings must be by boogaloo rather than her own. 65 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:14,350 In response to the feared adulteration of American art by French cultural hegemony, critics, 66 00:08:14,350 --> 00:08:22,440 writers and artists increasingly leaned on persistence articulations of American cultural innocence. 67 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:28,380 After suggesting that a main goal of modern art was to be naive in his 1891 article, 68 00:08:28,380 --> 00:08:37,170 Parker mused What commands better suited to the American temperaments if it has any quality which is conspicuously eminent? 69 00:08:37,170 --> 00:08:44,310 It is naive to say it is a habit of looking at things as if they were seen for the first time. 70 00:08:44,310 --> 00:08:50,640 He persisted that the American sees things with no intervening veil of convention and tradition. 71 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:56,790 He is made to be independent and free from his youth up. He is impelled to think things out for himself. 72 00:08:56,790 --> 00:09:01,710 He is told in effect from his cradle to be naive. 73 00:09:01,710 --> 00:09:12,020 With these comments, Parker taps into and reinforces a longstanding myth about US culture as innocence and naive compared with European civilisation. 74 00:09:12,020 --> 00:09:17,780 And while Parker's is a single text, as we will see, it is by no means singular. 75 00:09:17,780 --> 00:09:25,490 He is part of a chorus of constitutive commentaries both celebratory and derisive during this period. 76 00:09:25,490 --> 00:09:32,300 Parker's comments tease out the paradoxes at work in such claims of knowing innocence and savvy naivety. 77 00:09:32,300 --> 00:09:38,780 Phrases like Baid to be independent and free told to be naive. 78 00:09:38,780 --> 00:09:44,420 And his description of the habits of looking at things as if they're seen for the first time. 79 00:09:44,420 --> 00:09:47,600 Mark this wily contradiction. 80 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:56,060 Philosopher Immanuel Kant had noted that there is a first within a sense since the definition of naivety is heartlessness. 81 00:09:56,060 --> 00:10:00,920 An art of being naive, he says, is a contradiction. 82 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:09,980 Likewise, the art historian John House has observed quote all ideas of naivety and the primitive are themselves cultural, not natural. 83 00:10:09,980 --> 00:10:14,510 The very concept of innocence presupposes knowledge. 84 00:10:14,510 --> 00:10:21,470 Building on houses, insistence that one historic size these quests further than they have to and the primitive. 85 00:10:21,470 --> 00:10:26,750 This lecture series offers an intellectual history of the concepts of innocence, 86 00:10:26,750 --> 00:10:34,460 naivety and heartlessness that had currency for Americans in Fantasy Paris and explores how materiality, 87 00:10:34,460 --> 00:10:40,310 iconography, writing and social performance intersected with this discourse. 88 00:10:40,310 --> 00:10:48,470 These layered representations in text, image and dialogue resonate with the paradox of their very implausibility. 89 00:10:48,470 --> 00:10:55,100 The goal of these discussions is not to ratify these myths or to call them back into currency, 90 00:10:55,100 --> 00:11:02,120 but rather first to show how the myth operates as fiction through intermediate iterations, 91 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:12,320 and second to show how cultural production, especially in the visual world, intersected and became part of this transnational conversation. 92 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,900 While much of this material is humorous, 93 00:11:14,900 --> 00:11:23,780 I encourage us to think with and through that humour to the anxieties beneath the surface of these exaggerated operations of parody, 94 00:11:23,780 --> 00:11:32,690 as USA identity is perpetually questioned, contested, performed and re inscribed through art making and criticism. 95 00:11:32,690 --> 00:11:40,250 Today, I will build a matrix of fluid interwoven and layered definitions of innocence that circulated in and 96 00:11:40,250 --> 00:11:46,820 about the U.S. colony in Paris in art criticism in popular culture and literature by Mark Twain, 97 00:11:46,820 --> 00:11:58,040 Henry James and Edith Wharton. And consider some of the social, social, philosophical and artistic implications of this construct and its currency. 98 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:02,930 These discussions build on earlier debates about aesthetics in U.S. literature. 99 00:12:02,930 --> 00:12:10,640 Mark Bauerlein has shown how Ralph Waldo Emerson projected the need not only for newness in literary contents from quotes, 100 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:17,720 new lands, new men, new thoughts, but also a new mode of expression. 101 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:26,850 Nancy Rittenberg argued that antebellum literary practise imagines a personality for US poetry, but in a paradoxically, 102 00:12:26,850 --> 00:12:35,990 I'm quoting from her here mandated prerequisite of inarticulate ness for an authentic national poetic selfhood. 103 00:12:35,990 --> 00:12:44,960 Well, Whitman's leaves of grass, published in 1855, idolises the US as a young country with no history in thoughts. 104 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:54,500 Whitman extolled how America illustrates birth, muscular use, the promise, the sheer fulfilments, the absolute success. 105 00:12:54,500 --> 00:13:00,200 Yet Rutenberg points out his posturing of what she calls an aesthetic of innocence, 106 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:09,410 which he's announcing through his own description of his indescribable freshness and unconsciousness. 107 00:13:09,410 --> 00:13:18,350 Pairing art and art looseness, he pointedly wrote, The art of Art's The Glory of expression and the sunshine of the letters is simplicity. 108 00:13:18,350 --> 00:13:23,400 This tension echoes in conversations about art practise in front of secular Paris. 109 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,150 U.S. artists attempts to gain technical maturity, 110 00:13:26,150 --> 00:13:33,170 stumbled into long standing debates about what the arts in a so-called young country should look like. 111 00:13:33,170 --> 00:13:39,770 If critics similarly expected a U.S. art to emerge from perceived cultural innocence and the absence of art, 112 00:13:39,770 --> 00:13:44,990 what then were style or were artists stylistic choices? 113 00:13:44,990 --> 00:13:54,110 And further, if Bridgeman and Gardner's quoting of gleaming glazed surfaces were not its, could there be an art lost art? 114 00:13:54,110 --> 00:13:59,600 It is my contention that articulations of U.S. cultural innocence in Paris asserted an 115 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:06,350 anxious cultural scarcity in the sense of claiming absence of art in the so-called new world, 116 00:14:06,350 --> 00:14:16,010 but also a projection of U.S. possibility which inverted this critique to imagine what security might offer to art making. 117 00:14:16,010 --> 00:14:24,290 Playing with these traits and their complexities in Paris, U.S. artists, writers and travellers projected their own relatedness. 118 00:14:24,290 --> 00:14:32,270 In other words, they collectively builds a sense of American culture as comparatively behinds to lead and not yet arrived. 119 00:14:32,270 --> 00:14:37,970 The ironic result American studies scholar Brent Burns, Hexagon Tensor General, 120 00:14:37,970 --> 00:14:48,980 has argued of constantly projecting a new sense of projecting a sense of newness and an obsession with futurity in cultural production hurts. 121 00:14:48,980 --> 00:14:56,420 The generous suggests a circularity unfolds between tellings of history and an end of myth, 122 00:14:56,420 --> 00:15:01,670 operating in a manner akin to what Griselda Pollock has called avant garde gambits. 123 00:15:01,670 --> 00:15:06,740 Americans performance of innocence in Paris functioned as a cultural gambits. 124 00:15:06,740 --> 00:15:13,460 Pollack describes a process of reference difference and sorry, let me start that again. 125 00:15:13,460 --> 00:15:22,610 Polly could. Describes the process of reference, deference and difference that characterised avant garde production in fantasy include Paris, 126 00:15:22,610 --> 00:15:30,530 where artists engage with and nod to previous artists and then distort and displace that model with their own intervention. 127 00:15:30,530 --> 00:15:39,830 This transnational dialogue operated in a similar feedback circuit, as French artists and critics keen to imagine US relatedness. 128 00:15:39,830 --> 00:15:45,890 Many individuals adopted and performed to these ideas of cultural use reciprocally, 129 00:15:45,890 --> 00:15:55,070 but also dislodged them for cultural gain through repeated iterative performances in material production and social practise. 130 00:15:55,070 --> 00:15:58,040 With this theoretical and critical foundation, 131 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:05,930 let's turn to sketching out the trajectory of this discourse and contextualising the currency of these turns in constant refraction. 132 00:16:05,930 --> 00:16:17,300 In Franco US exchange, the late 19th and early 20th century conversation operates in dialogue with perhaps the original American Innocence in Paris. 133 00:16:17,300 --> 00:16:25,160 Benjamin Franklin living in Paris from eating from 1777 until 18 1785. 134 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:31,670 Clearly, I'm stuck in the 19th century. Franklin became an icon of New World eccentricity. 135 00:16:31,670 --> 00:16:36,590 Then, in his 70s, his bumbling French and refusal to adapt to the comportment of the French 136 00:16:36,590 --> 00:16:41,570 aristocracy by wearing his simple and embroidered cloak and appearing in court 137 00:16:41,570 --> 00:16:52,670 without makeup or wig rendered him charming and peculiar to French observers curious about the citizens of an incipient nation primitive this mirage. 138 00:16:52,670 --> 00:16:59,630 One scholar called him French prince often present Franklin as a humble philosophy as 139 00:16:59,630 --> 00:17:04,280 in this image depicting him wearing spectacles and a fur wrapped around his head. 140 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:12,320 A naive man in a sophisticated world, the image plays with stereotypes of the United States as an untamed wilderness and the fur trade, 141 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:17,150 which framed French presence in the north in North America for centuries. 142 00:17:17,150 --> 00:17:24,300 A prince made in Philadelphia by Anton Lowenstein Franklin's reception at the Court of France imagines Franklin 143 00:17:24,300 --> 00:17:31,400 sticking out as a curiosity in the midst of the French courts as a woman places a laurel wreath over his witless head, 144 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:41,240 resulting in the rapt attention and ears of King Louis, the sixteenth and Marie Antoinette's who are seated at right and leaning towards him. 145 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:51,260 The sumptuous fabrics and gowns and drapes juxtaposed Franklin's simple dress, which cultivates the idea of the simple, humble and pious American. 146 00:17:51,260 --> 00:17:55,070 Yeah, it's Franklin's international personality is complex. 147 00:17:55,070 --> 00:18:01,370 While some fellow US revolutionaries, such as John Adams, were critical of his lack of French skills, 148 00:18:01,370 --> 00:18:07,520 and some French observers saw through what one described as a chameleon persona. 149 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:16,190 Franklin's character of savvy naivety deflected attention from his goals of persuading French monarchical support for the revolutionary cause. 150 00:18:16,190 --> 00:18:27,200 As Peter Gibson has argued, Franklin's writings mark him as a key cosmopolitan figure for early Americans in his transnational abilities. 151 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:31,760 And while the influx of Americans in Paris came a century after Franklin's stay, 152 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:42,180 reminders of that cultural history circulated through the publication in the 1880s as an extended two volume book Franklin in France. 153 00:18:42,180 --> 00:18:50,130 The other important precursory voice for the circulation of these myths in front of secular Paris is Alexis de Tocqueville, 154 00:18:50,130 --> 00:18:55,860 whose democracy in America, published in the 1840s, remained in print. 155 00:18:55,860 --> 00:19:00,270 While Tocqueville was often a shrewd critic of U.S. racial politics. 156 00:19:00,270 --> 00:19:08,370 He also furthered ideas of national newness that French critics parroted when they made statements about Americans as A. Formulaic. 157 00:19:08,370 --> 00:19:16,740 Tocqueville described the American philosophical method as driven by the attempt to quote escape from imposed systems, 158 00:19:16,740 --> 00:19:21,420 the yoke of habits to treat tradition as valuable information only, 159 00:19:21,420 --> 00:19:28,770 and to accept existing facts as no more than a useful sketch to show how things could be done differently and better. 160 00:19:28,770 --> 00:19:34,710 Tocqueville pressed on the idea of Americans as enacting perpetual discovery and issuing formulae, 161 00:19:34,710 --> 00:19:39,900 writing No craftsman's axiom Nixon ever makes an American pause. 162 00:19:39,900 --> 00:19:47,880 He is not attached more to one way of working than to another. He has no preference for old methods compared to new one. 163 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:56,790 He has created no habits of his own, and he can reasonably easily rid himself of any influence foreign habits might have over his mind. 164 00:19:56,790 --> 00:20:03,330 Four. He knows that his country is like no other and that his situation is something new in the world. 165 00:20:03,330 --> 00:20:08,850 The spectre of Tocqueville's assertions loom in the later century. 166 00:20:08,850 --> 00:20:13,800 Thomas Couture, a French painter who taught many American art students in Paris, remarks. 167 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:22,290 For instance, in 1870, the American seems to hold the principle not to take what's offered to him going continually to discovery. 168 00:20:22,290 --> 00:20:30,420 He takes only that which he thinks he has discovered. U.S. writers in Paris later echoed Tocqueville's constructs, too. 169 00:20:30,420 --> 00:20:36,780 In nineteen one, the American Register, which was the English language newspaper of the U.S. Colony in Paris, 170 00:20:36,780 --> 00:20:44,550 advertised the American love of the new, which they described as the new the untried, the unexplored. 171 00:20:44,550 --> 00:20:50,310 As one of the country's national peculiarities across the span of decades, 172 00:20:50,310 --> 00:21:01,050 these comments suggest a refracted feedback loop of cultural stare stereotype of a futurity that resulted in relatedness in the art world. 173 00:21:01,050 --> 00:21:07,020 Explicit discussions of U.S. innocence and naivety began to appear around the end of the Civil War, 174 00:21:07,020 --> 00:21:15,090 concurrent with the first large wave of U.S. artists travelling to Paris, where they became so numerous as to be called their own genius. 175 00:21:15,090 --> 00:21:23,930 By the end of the century. Some of this rhetoric emerged in the early 1860s in the US as genocide. 176 00:21:23,930 --> 00:21:30,470 Simon has shown the arts magazine the new path encouraged artists to embrace their innate heartlessness. 177 00:21:30,470 --> 00:21:37,010 Editor Clarence Cooke celebrated that U.S. artists are, quote, not hampered by too many traditions, 178 00:21:37,010 --> 00:21:44,180 and they enjoy the almost inevitable advantage of having no past, no masters and no schools. 179 00:21:44,180 --> 00:21:53,030 Framing his conclusions with tropes of cultural youth, Cook wrote these conditions of a childish simplicity and ignorance in matters of arts, 180 00:21:53,030 --> 00:21:58,010 coupled with a strong and wide interest in such matters, albeit uninformed, 181 00:21:58,010 --> 00:22:08,480 untrained and perceptions naturally direct and true are nowhere to be found today as pure as they are in America. 182 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,530 Cooke reshapes the liability, childishness, simplicity, ignorance, 183 00:22:12,530 --> 00:22:25,860 uninformed and trains of lacking art culture into an asset linked with fresh perception and even a suggested authenticity. 184 00:22:25,860 --> 00:22:35,100 On the eve of his departure to study in Paris in 1866, US Peter Thomas Eakins wrote to his friend and fellow artist William Sartain, 185 00:22:35,100 --> 00:22:44,820 offering an etymology of the word naive, which arose from their debates about whether nature and art were diametrically opposed. 186 00:22:44,820 --> 00:22:51,420 Eakins noted that Sartain had privileged, artless as central to the definition of native, 187 00:22:51,420 --> 00:22:57,390 and Eakins agreed that humans tended to create a frequent contrast between 188 00:22:57,390 --> 00:23:04,500 nature and art nature associated with the native and art with careful control. 189 00:23:04,500 --> 00:23:13,050 Then Eakins identified related concepts to naive, noting that they all emphasised things passively received. 190 00:23:13,050 --> 00:23:19,080 And he listed those terms, and in his actual letter, he offers a more detailed analysis of each one of them. 191 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:26,010 But they are art less unaffected, unassuming, open, sincere on pretending, undisguised, 192 00:23:26,010 --> 00:23:33,660 candid, simple, unstudied frank unpremeditated concluding there are, I suppose, many more. 193 00:23:33,660 --> 00:23:44,070 Eakins resolved and suggested his aesthetic priorities as he began training in Paris by arguing, quote Nature and art are about the same words. 194 00:23:44,070 --> 00:23:49,170 While Eakins and Sartain focussed on whether nature and art were opposed or linked, 195 00:23:49,170 --> 00:23:56,640 US artists in in France publicly debated these and other aspects of innocence and its contradictions. 196 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:05,040 They wondered, for instance, how the same term could be used to define use morality and also heedless ness and recklessness. 197 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,750 Robert Henry wryly observed that in Paris quotes many things that in America would 198 00:24:09,750 --> 00:24:16,350 be the height of indecency occur about us with an innocence that is really amusing. 199 00:24:16,350 --> 00:24:21,600 Such discussions also reverberated back and forth between France and the United States. 200 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:26,910 In 1895, this painting, I think this one by Alan Peter Hall, 201 00:24:26,910 --> 00:24:35,100 was removed from a dealer's window in Baltimore due to complaints about its propriety entitled Innocence. 202 00:24:35,100 --> 00:24:38,850 The painting shows a nude young girl with a bow on her head, 203 00:24:38,850 --> 00:24:44,640 kissing a dive which she cradles in her arms with the figure pressed up against the 204 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:49,860 front of the picture plane and her body extended almost the full height of the canvas, 205 00:24:49,860 --> 00:24:54,660 with only a thin, gauzy veil stretching down in front of her pubic area. 206 00:24:54,660 --> 00:25:01,500 Some Baltimore residents saw the painting as immoral in spite of its title and the girl's young age. 207 00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:08,310 That this painting of the nude could be so titled suggest differences in defining the term in France than in the United States. 208 00:25:08,310 --> 00:25:14,970 In France, Pablo's title likely drew from the useful nature of the prepubescent figure veiled in modesty, 209 00:25:14,970 --> 00:25:20,760 whereas the painting's U.S. detractors associated the scarcely veiled body with depravity. 210 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:26,700 The response of the U.S. community in Paris to the scandal fell between these fluctuating definitions, 211 00:25:26,700 --> 00:25:30,180 largely because of the painting's academic style. 212 00:25:30,180 --> 00:25:36,180 The writer for the American Register mused Consider the artist very discreet and conventional treatments, 213 00:25:36,180 --> 00:25:41,490 and it would seem difficult to find anything in the most remote way suggestive. 214 00:25:41,490 --> 00:25:47,520 These contradictory positions around this episode implies a spectrum of complex ideas 215 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:53,430 of innocence circulating in objects and in newspapers between Paris and the US. 216 00:25:53,430 --> 00:26:01,140 Discussion of these terms and their related meanings for nation and art speaks to a building currency in the post-Civil War period, 217 00:26:01,140 --> 00:26:07,620 especially in Paris. While debates about U.S. cultural production have been going on since founding, 218 00:26:07,620 --> 00:26:17,400 overt claims to cultural innocence took on an urgency in this period, likely because it was a myth increasingly challenged by social realities. 219 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:24,540 As James wrote in 1879, the Civil War marks an era in the history of the American mind. 220 00:26:24,540 --> 00:26:28,800 It introduced into the national consciousness a sense of the proportion and 221 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:35,100 relation of the worlds being a more complicated place than it had hitherto seemed. 222 00:26:35,100 --> 00:26:43,290 The future more treacherous success more difficult. The American has eaten of the tree of knowledge. 223 00:26:43,290 --> 00:26:49,650 James intimated that the Civil War incited a paradigm shift in U.S. culture and self-perception, 224 00:26:49,650 --> 00:26:54,750 knowing postures of innocence sought to remedy a nation's shattered by war, 225 00:26:54,750 --> 00:27:06,960 failed reconstruction, divisive financial interests, unresolved racial politics, the genocide of indigenous populations, immigration and urbanisation. 226 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:16,740 Uneasy projections of U.S. innocence resounded more loudly at precisely the moment when geopolitical events suggest its implausibility, 227 00:27:16,740 --> 00:27:24,200 and many U.S. artists, critics and writers seem to be attempting to enact a kind of return impossibly to the idealism. 228 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:31,190 Of Whitman. Mark Twain cracked about the contradiction of this perpetual renewal in 1883. 229 00:27:31,190 --> 00:27:37,730 The world in books are so accustomed to use and overused the word new in connexion with our country 230 00:27:37,730 --> 00:27:43,940 that we early gets and permanently retain the impression that there is nothing old about it. 231 00:27:43,940 --> 00:27:53,690 Innocence also performs the cultural work of forgetting othering and obscuring imperialism, as critic comic Bob Barr has suggested. 232 00:27:53,690 --> 00:27:58,190 Building on comments from this period by writers such as Ernst Clinton, 233 00:27:58,190 --> 00:28:06,260 inscriptions of national character often and act of quote strange forgetting of the history of the nation's past. 234 00:28:06,260 --> 00:28:11,210 The violence involved in establishing the nation's writ in the U.S. 235 00:28:11,210 --> 00:28:19,220 Innocence in acts amnesia to deny and obfuscate the histories of slavery and American Indian removal. 236 00:28:19,220 --> 00:28:23,660 Constructions of national newness obscured settler colonialism by reinforcing 237 00:28:23,660 --> 00:28:29,030 misconceptions that the landscape was empty when Anglo European settlers arrived. 238 00:28:29,030 --> 00:28:38,030 Tocqueville, for instance, implied that the North American landscape was terra nullius, what he described as the still empty cradle of a great nation, 239 00:28:38,030 --> 00:28:46,910 a concept that was recycled by imperialists like Theodore Roosevelt, who reiterated the false narrative of the continent as little populate it. 240 00:28:46,910 --> 00:28:56,780 Furthermore, as performance, historian Robin Bernstein and young and psychologist Barry Spectre have both argued innocence requires and other. 241 00:28:56,780 --> 00:29:03,950 It insists upon the duality of being innocent from something or someone else. 242 00:29:03,950 --> 00:29:10,220 In this way, ideas of cultural innocence, re inscribed race hierarchies and finally, 243 00:29:10,220 --> 00:29:15,440 projections of cultural innocence deflected attention from U.S. imperial ambition, 244 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:24,290 which were often played off in humour, such as in a comment in an illustration in 1881 that decried Americanisation with the comment. 245 00:29:24,290 --> 00:29:34,400 The new continent is menacing us with their purely Yankee novelty or, as Mrs. Tristan jokes to Christopher Newman in James's The American. 246 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:42,860 You are the great western by their barbarian, stepping forth in his innocence and might gazing a while at this poor, 247 00:29:42,860 --> 00:29:54,740 effete old world and then swooping down on its innocence and might an uneasy pairing that renders a this paradoxical position. 248 00:29:54,740 --> 00:30:03,200 Such resounding, an exaggerated insistence reads as parody in trains The Innocents Abroad, which was published in 1869. 249 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:10,730 Twain plays with the term innocence to refer to the gullibility of U.S. travellers who make the pilgrimage to Europe. 250 00:30:10,730 --> 00:30:14,210 The book's Frontispiece The Pilgrims vision, which you see here, 251 00:30:14,210 --> 00:30:20,810 depicts its white male figures gazing dreamily into formations of key world monuments in the clouds, 252 00:30:20,810 --> 00:30:28,130 underscoring the possibilities enabled by imaginary, flexible and unencumbered visions. 253 00:30:28,130 --> 00:30:34,700 There is an undergirding trope of U.S. discovery turning back to Europe here, but more explicitly, 254 00:30:34,700 --> 00:30:42,890 the text caricatures tourists desperately seeking European culture, their grand tour filling a gap in their identity. 255 00:30:42,890 --> 00:30:51,620 Tween mocks his narrator in Paris, whose breath is taken away most by the sight of an American flag hanging in front of the house in the next episode. 256 00:30:51,620 --> 00:30:56,450 The narrator guileless these shouts to his companion about the beauty of a woman nearby, 257 00:30:56,450 --> 00:31:02,030 assuming she spoke only French when she condemned his brashness in quotes. 258 00:31:02,030 --> 00:31:04,610 Good, pure English, he did not feel right. 259 00:31:04,610 --> 00:31:13,280 Comfortable for some time afterward, he ruminated, Why will some people be so stupid as to suppose themselves? 260 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:23,420 The only foreigners amongst a crowd of ten thousand persons rendered by the New York Company fame, Cox, and loosely based on Twain himself? 261 00:31:23,420 --> 00:31:31,670 The figure in the accompanying illustration is displayed as uncouth, with his arms and legs splayed as though he is off balance. 262 00:31:31,670 --> 00:31:36,560 His eyebrows are raised, enhancing his wide eyed, open mouthed expression. 263 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:43,640 His bowler hat renders him out of step with the chic stove hat stovepipe hats that abound in the background. 264 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:50,480 The figure marks a parody of American newness, especially compared with Holly Years rendering of Whitman. 265 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:55,550 Here, the poet's tilted hat in hand are casually resting on his hips. 266 00:31:55,550 --> 00:32:06,590 Both naturalising allusions to the rustic common American man he seems confident, assured, unencumbered in comparison with his ignorance. 267 00:32:06,590 --> 00:32:10,790 Twain can't muster the persona of Whitman's new American man, 268 00:32:10,790 --> 00:32:15,140 and I'm interested to note that this transition also seems to play out in aesthetics, too. 269 00:32:15,140 --> 00:32:19,340 If we think about the fine nuance of the stipple engraving that you see on the 270 00:32:19,340 --> 00:32:24,000 left in Collier's print of Whitman compared with the gestural and phonetic. 271 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:35,160 Lines that make up the engraving from the innocents abroad, U.S. callousness in international settings was often also expressed in monetised terms. 272 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:43,410 In another scene from innocents abroad, Twain mocks attempts by American tourists to engage culture by visiting the U.S., 273 00:32:43,410 --> 00:32:48,990 but who were thwarted by insistent guides who brought them to markets and silk shops instead. 274 00:32:48,990 --> 00:32:58,650 The illustration depicts the helpless tourists swept amid their protestations to this magazine by the tour guide who directs the coach driver. 275 00:32:58,650 --> 00:33:02,070 Twain concluded that this situation recurred frequently. 276 00:33:02,070 --> 00:33:10,080 It need not be supposed that we were a stupider or an easier prey than our countrymen generally are for we were not. 277 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:15,840 The guides deceive and defraud every American who goes to Paris for the first time and 278 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:22,170 sees insights alone or in the company with others as little experienced as himself. 279 00:33:22,170 --> 00:33:29,910 Twain's humour maps the closeness of his main characters onto Americans as a whole, and this becomes the trope in succeeding decades. 280 00:33:29,910 --> 00:33:32,070 I'll just say you one quick example. 281 00:33:32,070 --> 00:33:41,820 In 1892, Corwin Linson described a cab driver knowingly charging one franc too much from American art students arriving in Paris. 282 00:33:41,820 --> 00:33:45,960 In Winston's illustration, he renders the driver almost demonic, 283 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:51,900 with his synder goggles gleaming as he stretches his palms out toward the viewer for the coins. 284 00:33:51,900 --> 00:33:57,940 And I apologise if this image gives anyone nightmares. A Parker Brothers word game. 285 00:33:57,940 --> 00:34:06,910 The amusing game of innocents abroad, released in 1888, invited players to imagine themselves as one of twins tourists. 286 00:34:06,910 --> 00:34:13,690 And it also reveals some of the strange contours of this discourse of cultural innocence and travel. 287 00:34:13,690 --> 00:34:21,790 On the cover of the box, a family hurriedly transfer across a dock from a train to the steamboats, the Port Washington. 288 00:34:21,790 --> 00:34:30,040 Yeah, it's this boat looks more like a riverboat than a transatlantic ship, and the view across the water renders close to the opposite side. 289 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:38,710 The travellers overlaid them with bags as they scuttle across the dock do not seem to travel far with generic titles. 290 00:34:38,710 --> 00:34:46,660 The board also does not define any particular place, and there's no monuments or cities one would normally find on a grand tour, 291 00:34:46,660 --> 00:34:51,970 unlike the current game ticket to ride, which has very specific destinations. 292 00:34:51,970 --> 00:35:00,760 Here, the player remains scarcely abroad, travelling within the safe confines of an accessible, unplaced landscape. 293 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:09,250 In the game, two ponds migrate the criminal lithographic board simultaneously, one through the pastoral landscape at the bottom and right, 294 00:35:09,250 --> 00:35:15,190 and the other through the possible outcomes of travelling, which are mostly pretty benign. 295 00:35:15,190 --> 00:35:23,750 Purchasing flippers or tooth powder and most drastically losing one's wallet, the winner makes it through the landscape the most quickly. 296 00:35:23,750 --> 00:35:34,060 But having spent the least amount of money, Twain's and Vincent's images and this game elevate a kind of anxiety of encountering the world outside the 297 00:35:34,060 --> 00:35:41,380 safe confines of the nation and draw particular attention to financial duress as a key danger of travel. 298 00:35:41,380 --> 00:35:47,470 In these iterations, the guileless American is no match for the savvy European. 299 00:35:47,470 --> 00:35:54,910 James's characters have a better shot ever attuned to what he described as the international theme. 300 00:35:54,910 --> 00:36:01,540 James was unsatisfied with the simplistic projection of a stifling and constructive American godlessness. 301 00:36:01,540 --> 00:36:08,350 He instead saw increasingly an art looseness that could be freeing for his U.S. travellers abroad, 302 00:36:08,350 --> 00:36:13,240 offering a kind of fortunate fall from a position of innocence. 303 00:36:13,240 --> 00:36:19,840 Even by embracing its very tenets, while contradicted the concept of artful naivety, 304 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,830 he also wrote that there is quote certainly the possibility of presenting. 305 00:36:23,830 --> 00:36:30,310 They obtain a fictitious character and then it is a fine, though also rare art. 306 00:36:30,310 --> 00:36:36,700 This seems a fitting gauntlet for James is writing from Daisy Miller of 1878 to the 307 00:36:36,700 --> 00:36:44,380 ambassadors of Oh three James's characters exhibit a qualified innocence in Daisy Miller. 308 00:36:44,380 --> 00:36:53,500 Daisy's own guileless ness is complicated by Winterbourne awareness of her projection of innocence as a knowing social posture. 309 00:36:53,500 --> 00:37:01,870 He muses about the moonlit excursion that led Daisy to catch Ronan Fever and die. 310 00:37:01,870 --> 00:37:08,830 There you go. What a clever little reprobate she was, and how smartly she feigned. 311 00:37:08,830 --> 00:37:15,610 How promptly she sought to play off on him a surprised and injured innocence. 312 00:37:15,610 --> 00:37:20,560 From here, James builds an increasingly complicated trope of innocence. 313 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:28,420 He in 1982 offered a lengthy discussion on this theme The Dawn of the American Consciousness 314 00:37:28,420 --> 00:37:34,000 to the complicated world it was so persistently to annexe is the more touching, 315 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,240 the more primitive we make that consciousness. 316 00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:46,120 But we must recognise that the latter can scarcely be interesting to us in proportion as we make it purely Sherman's primitives. 317 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:53,530 The self-reflection places James's project as centred on an awakening of US culture to its naive position, 318 00:37:53,530 --> 00:37:59,140 and it also builds an imperialist tone through annexation of commandeering that world. 319 00:37:59,140 --> 00:38:06,730 But guileless isn't enough for James, who continues the interest is in its becoming perceptive and responsive, 320 00:38:06,730 --> 00:38:12,940 and the charming, the amusing, the pathetic. The romantic drama is exactly that process. 321 00:38:12,940 --> 00:38:19,510 The process must have begun in order to determine the psychological moments. 322 00:38:19,510 --> 00:38:27,670 But there is a fine bewilderment it must have kept in order not to anticipate the age of CTT. 323 00:38:27,670 --> 00:38:36,610 James notes his goals to move beyond simplistic dichotomies between innocence and experience to a qualified innocence in which a layered, 324 00:38:36,610 --> 00:38:40,690 naive take could awaken the spirit in the later novel. 325 00:38:40,690 --> 00:38:48,340 The ambassadors James entangles at least five different concepts of innocence, almost all of them tied to mobility. 326 00:38:48,340 --> 00:38:55,030 There is the newness projected by Lambert's brother when he arrived overseas with the goal to disentangle his fiancee, 327 00:38:55,030 --> 00:38:58,930 sons Chad, from his Parisian life. 328 00:38:58,930 --> 00:39:07,930 Playing with ideas of youth, then in his mid-50s stretched their notes quote, he had never expected again to find himself young. 329 00:39:07,930 --> 00:39:12,640 He also described feeling his quote Sense of self launched into something quite 330 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:18,880 disconnected from the sense of the past and which was literally beginning there and then. 331 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,880 Innocence is also framed in Struthers propriety, 332 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:30,550 with his insistent perception of Chad's relationship with the married Madame Devaney as innocence as in Daisy Miller, 333 00:39:30,550 --> 00:39:38,740 Innocence operates through exterior social performance as Strother scrutinises the possible romance between Chad and Vivian. 334 00:39:38,740 --> 00:39:45,820 And probing whether quotes there art were all in innocence or their innocence were all in art. 335 00:39:45,820 --> 00:39:56,770 James also took up heartlessness as Strother in Paris becomes increasingly unencumbered, giving himself over to quote uncontrolled perceptions. 336 00:39:56,770 --> 00:40:01,750 The denouement of the book is framed by yet another kind of heartlessness through wandering 337 00:40:01,750 --> 00:40:08,530 on a rambling day stretched their attempts to be heartless as he takes a train out of Paris, 338 00:40:08,530 --> 00:40:13,480 selected almost at random with a destination chosen by instinct. 339 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:22,210 And interestingly, this is also how US artists in Shivani describe initially finding the village in the 1880s. 340 00:40:22,210 --> 00:40:29,620 James narrates these scenes with languid and wandering language that parallels the experience of the character. 341 00:40:29,620 --> 00:40:36,460 Strother walks idly through the landscape alongside a river resting lazily in the fields, 342 00:40:36,460 --> 00:40:46,970 imagining himself and I quote again from James freely walking about and he's inside a painting by Amuse Charlotte, meaning that he recalled from a. 343 00:40:46,970 --> 00:40:50,480 An art gallery on Fremont Streets, James Toys, 344 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:57,470 with the tension between the artfulness of walking inside a painting and the arts looseness that frames the day, 345 00:40:57,470 --> 00:41:02,450 or as literary scholar Zachary Sica puts it, quote heartless enough. 346 00:41:02,450 --> 00:41:11,990 And yet Struthers conception of the French countryside is wholly conditioned by art, and I want to linger with you in this passage. 347 00:41:11,990 --> 00:41:22,280 James leads us in and out of the quote oblong gilt frame that disposed its enclosing lines the poplars and willows, the reeds and river, 348 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:30,560 a river of which he didn't know and didn't want to know the name, fell into a composition full of Felicity within them. 349 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:37,430 The sky was silver and turquoise and varnish. The village on the left was white and the church on the right was grey. 350 00:41:37,430 --> 00:41:42,050 It was all there in shorts. It was all he wanted. It was Fremont Street. 351 00:41:42,050 --> 00:41:45,200 It was France. It was Lumbini. 352 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:54,920 James's language re mingles nature and art as Akin sought to do in his deep dive on the naive in the sky of silver and turquoise and 353 00:41:54,920 --> 00:42:05,870 varnish perceptions of colour dissolve into material and matter the lighting painting as represented scene and as material surface. 354 00:42:05,870 --> 00:42:15,860 Struthers Ambling opens him to self-discovery as he saunters along put a river which set on to float almost before one could take up the oars. 355 00:42:15,860 --> 00:42:24,080 The idle play of which would be more over the aid to the full impression Strother breaks free from his stilted identity. 356 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:31,040 The flow of the river currents taking control as this current carries a rowboat with Chad 357 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:37,550 and Vuyani Anstruther understands finally the romantic nature of their relationship. 358 00:42:37,550 --> 00:42:42,470 He recognised at last that he had really been trying all along to suppose nothing. 359 00:42:42,470 --> 00:42:46,010 Verily, verily. His labour had been lost. He found himself. 360 00:42:46,010 --> 00:42:51,020 Supposing innumerable and wonderful things. Strother is heartless. 361 00:42:51,020 --> 00:42:56,210 Ramble through the countryside, forces him to move. Through his self-imposed naivety, 362 00:42:56,210 --> 00:43:04,760 instructor James designs a complex and awakening form of naivety that replaces guileless ness with something that is creative 363 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:14,360 and personally generates generative possibility that is enabled by stepping into the liminal space between art and innocence. 364 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,520 James's contest between these entangled, 365 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:26,400 even paradoxical ideas of innocence that find bewilderment frames the layers of U.S. projections of naivety in Paris. 366 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:32,040 Edith Wharton also played with the paradoxical nature of deliberate claims to innocence, 367 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:38,250 recalling Cosmopolitan New York in the 1870s from 1920 in the age of innocence. 368 00:43:38,250 --> 00:43:47,010 Protagonist Newland Archer responds to his fiancee may well end highlighting the uneasy nature of the quote Hieroglyphic World, 369 00:43:47,010 --> 00:43:54,310 where the real thing was never said or done or even thought, but only represented by a set of arbitrary signs. 370 00:43:54,310 --> 00:43:59,880 Wharton builds a semiotics of innocence when he had gone the brief round of her. 371 00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:06,330 He returned discouraged by the thought that all this frankness and innocence was only an artificial product. 372 00:44:06,330 --> 00:44:14,580 Untrained human nature was not frank and innocent. It was full of the twists and defences of an instinctive guile, 373 00:44:14,580 --> 00:44:22,710 and he felt himself oppressed by this creation of fictitious purity so cunningly manufactured. 374 00:44:22,710 --> 00:44:29,790 As in James's late work, Horton stresses the contradictory and constructed postures behind Candide innocence, 375 00:44:29,790 --> 00:44:34,620 like Con Wharton, questions the possibility of true native innocence. 376 00:44:34,620 --> 00:44:40,920 She registers instead human nature as naturally riddled with instinctive guile 377 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:46,470 together comments and critical discussion alongside these larger narrations by Twain, 378 00:44:46,470 --> 00:44:58,710 James and Wharton of the American innocent structure interwoven definitions of innocence that raise questions about interior and exterior selves, 379 00:44:58,710 --> 00:45:06,420 materiality and imagery. The simple and the complex that reverberates in the American community in Paris. 380 00:45:06,420 --> 00:45:11,400 The semiotics of innocence as projected and tried on for size, 381 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:17,580 fundamentally shaped Franco US artistic dialogue in the second empire and Third Republic. 382 00:45:17,580 --> 00:45:24,480 At stake in these gambits was partly the question of what the United States could contribute to an international art world. 383 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:29,100 For some, cultural relatedness enabled the freedom of eclectic selection. 384 00:45:29,100 --> 00:45:36,480 As Tocqueville had also opined, James wrote of this future amalgamation in a letter in 1867. 385 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:41,460 To have no interest, no national stamp has hitherto been a regrets and drawback. 386 00:45:41,460 --> 00:45:46,200 But I think it's not likely that American writers may yet indicate that a vast 387 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:51,990 intellectual fusion and synthesis of various national tendencies of the world 388 00:45:51,990 --> 00:45:57,270 is in the condition of more important achievements than any we have seen 389 00:45:57,270 --> 00:46:02,880 pulseaudio the architects who had designed the printing department store in Paris, 390 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:11,160 likewise elevated synthesis when he honoured Bozak architect Richard Morris Hunt at an award dinner in 1893 391 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:17,190 by suggesting that the use of U.S. art made it like a honeybee collecting nectar from around the world, 392 00:46:17,190 --> 00:46:23,400 which he said would quote Taste of the Future with marvels of art, young and new. 393 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:32,430 The deal celebrates selective amalgamation enabled by the purported blank slate in Hunt's eclectic and layered engagements with European architectural 394 00:46:32,430 --> 00:46:42,690 traditions such as that seen in the Italianate Marble House at Newports and the neo-Gothic French inspired chateau of Biltmore in North Carolina. 395 00:46:42,690 --> 00:46:48,360 Others proposed that such a synthetic model would not suit and instead argued that U.S. 396 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:54,840 artists could contribute an art less arts by building on what academic painter Walter Gilman, 397 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,560 Ellen Page described as native crudeness. 398 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:07,860 While French critic a man has been maligned that parsimonious American contributions to the Universal Exposition of 1867, 399 00:47:07,860 --> 00:47:13,510 which were a cottage and a rural schoolhouse and an Illinois bakery, 400 00:47:13,510 --> 00:47:19,680 and they were paltry submissions in part due to government just organisation following a civil war. 401 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:26,580 But now has been concluded that they represented what he described as humble cabins, 402 00:47:26,580 --> 00:47:34,260 whose grandeur is entirely moral for in the middle of these riches in the fare around which are dead. 403 00:47:34,260 --> 00:47:38,640 They symbolise the birth of the future for malice being. 404 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:48,540 These structures transform the absence of grandeur into an advantage, as well as a harbinger of future aesthetic of simplicity and morality. 405 00:47:48,540 --> 00:47:54,240 Although I should add that the late and very Mr Francois Bruni has suggested that 406 00:47:54,240 --> 00:48:00,030 Mao's theme was actually funded by the U.S. to make such a complimentary statements. 407 00:48:00,030 --> 00:48:11,250 But Malmsteen is not alone in this commentary. French art as art critic on Clay Michel observed in 1886 that with their retained attachment to nature, 408 00:48:11,250 --> 00:48:21,450 U.S. artists in France possessed a quote candour and even sincerity that all of the skill of our most talented virtuosos will never attain. 409 00:48:21,450 --> 00:48:25,990 They bring us and innocence of expression of vigorous and honest simplicity that. 410 00:48:25,990 --> 00:48:29,380 Captivates charms and calms us, 411 00:48:29,380 --> 00:48:36,730 Gilbert Parker also took up this thread when he wrote about the naivety of American artists in Paris as a contribution to modernism. 412 00:48:36,730 --> 00:48:42,220 Implicit in these ideas is the expectation of French cultural decline. 413 00:48:42,220 --> 00:48:46,850 Parker claims that French art was limited in its quest for naivety. 414 00:48:46,850 --> 00:48:51,190 A because of what Parker saw as an ennui, a more badness in the brain, 415 00:48:51,190 --> 00:48:58,070 which comes from overfed imaginations, so kind of fuelling a discourse of decadence. 416 00:48:58,070 --> 00:49:06,200 For Parker, French artists were overburdened with the weight of history and tradition, whereas U.S. cultural use was comparatively unencumbered. 417 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:15,830 And in this discussion, long standing presumptions of U.S. innate heartlessness collided with modernism search for renewal. 418 00:49:15,830 --> 00:49:24,860 Whether a cultural blank slate enabled, eclectic accrual in original ways or a projection of an art less visual language, 419 00:49:24,860 --> 00:49:31,220 these tropes of innocence in Paris designed a U.S. art as pristine but also sterile, 420 00:49:31,220 --> 00:49:38,480 fresh but also undeveloped, rugged but also savage and childlike, but also childish. 421 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:47,120 The next two three lectures will explore how U.S. artists working in Paris capitalised on these entangled definitions of innocence 422 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:54,980 in both aesthetic and social practise as they navigated foreign art study through other discourse sources of the period, 423 00:49:54,980 --> 00:50:00,200 including Protestantism and work ethic, race and modern psychology. 424 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:07,940 In closing, I'll note that the United States was by no means the only country that adopted Pileated strategically. 425 00:50:07,940 --> 00:50:13,790 Rather, this case is part of a larger rise of multiple and alternative modern isms, 426 00:50:13,790 --> 00:50:19,790 and temporality is that scholars are increasingly tracing in the age of nationalism. 427 00:50:19,790 --> 00:50:26,060 A study day on planning for later this spring will invite wider analysis of relatedness and modernity, 428 00:50:26,060 --> 00:50:34,580 such as that presented by settler artists in colonial Australia. Vasily Kandinsky is interested in Russian ethnography and folk arts, 429 00:50:34,580 --> 00:50:41,240 returns to handicraft production in the arts and crafts movements in Britain, the US and Russia, 430 00:50:41,240 --> 00:50:52,460 alongside projections of relatedness which were imposed as colonial exports, while paradoxical in claim and speaking to a discourse of exceptionalism. 431 00:50:52,460 --> 00:50:57,500 U.S. projections of relatedness in France were also not entirely unique. 432 00:50:57,500 --> 00:51:09,440 Thank you for your attention and I welcome your question, friends and comments. 433 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:14,540 Thank you so much, Emily. That was a very loaded lecture. 434 00:51:14,540 --> 00:51:16,580 You know, a loaded 50 minutes, 435 00:51:16,580 --> 00:51:25,040 you sketched a wide sweep of history and you gave a lot of thought provoking case studies that should stimulate a lot of questions, 436 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:32,210 and we do have some questions already coming in. Keep those questions and comments coming in as we talk. 437 00:51:32,210 --> 00:51:40,310 But and one of the first questions is something that touches on my sort of first question kind of it, but it's from Jane. 438 00:51:40,310 --> 00:51:46,700 And she said there must be evidence of the actual talents of some American art students. 439 00:51:46,700 --> 00:51:53,690 You know what, actual? Seriously. You know, we're working American art students. 440 00:51:53,690 --> 00:51:57,740 We're doing in Paris, and I would add my sort of my question. 441 00:51:57,740 --> 00:52:01,160 On top of that, those are what are what would you say the artists are? 442 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:07,940 It seems such a paradox of your talk. What are the art students looking for in a trip to late 19th century Paris? 443 00:52:07,940 --> 00:52:18,410 Are they looking for training, learning about, you know, traditional techniques and traditional crafts and conventions of past art? 444 00:52:18,410 --> 00:52:25,040 Or are they, as you say, really interestingly, going to Paris for cultural rejuvenation? 445 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:31,880 You know, like, you know, like which would mean in a way, going to Paris to perform, they're innocent. 446 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:36,350 You know, how how are they doing both of those things? But Jane wanted to know, really what? 447 00:52:36,350 --> 00:52:41,780 I know you have a lot of anecdotes about this, but you know what we're actual artists doing in Paris. 448 00:52:41,780 --> 00:52:49,400 Why? Why did they have to go to Paris to discover, rediscover their pre-Civil War innocence? 449 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:53,690 Yeah. Great. Thank you so much, Jean and Peter for that crap. 450 00:52:53,690 --> 00:53:00,290 Yeah, I know there's lots of evidence of what artists are producing and tremendous bodies of work survive from everything, 451 00:53:00,290 --> 00:53:05,240 from sketches that are made in the ateliers and academies to hundreds, 452 00:53:05,240 --> 00:53:09,830 maybe even thousands of paintings that are exhibited in the French salon system. 453 00:53:09,830 --> 00:53:17,450 And part of the draw of going to Paris for art making is that admission to the Ecole is free. 454 00:53:17,450 --> 00:53:21,350 If you can pass the test to go and train. 455 00:53:21,350 --> 00:53:29,120 And there's also a kind of flood of foreign artists coming from many other parts of the world to convene in this space as well. 456 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:41,600 And so there is a kind of access to resources that is kind of more professionalised and more firmly established and an exhibition system, 457 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:46,400 too, that operates as a kind of machine that artists want to participate in. 458 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:56,540 But one of the things that is really complicated in its history is that so many of the U.S. artists are going to Paris not intending to stay. 459 00:53:56,540 --> 00:54:05,570 They see it as a kind of rite of passage and an opportunity to gain skills that they can then employ when they return to the United States. 460 00:54:05,570 --> 00:54:11,210 And much of the focus on U.S. artists in Paris is typically on the artists who did stay, 461 00:54:11,210 --> 00:54:18,530 who did integrate more fully in the cosmopolitan networks like Sargent and Whistler and Cassatt. 462 00:54:18,530 --> 00:54:25,640 But I think that for the rest of the artists who are going in this kind of rite of passage way, 463 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:30,290 this kind of play of of rejuvenation and a play of innocence is about kind of 464 00:54:30,290 --> 00:54:39,380 safeguarding their cultural identity that they will then carry back with them to the U.S. 465 00:54:39,380 --> 00:54:42,140 I think that's only a partial answer to your question, 466 00:54:42,140 --> 00:54:51,080 but I think that the the other thing that pulls this question of rejuvenation together for me is that it's not just artists who are going, 467 00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,470 it's writers, it's tourists. 468 00:54:54,470 --> 00:55:01,610 And there are also a lot of people who ex-patriots Paris because it's a lot more inexpensive to live there in this time period. 469 00:55:01,610 --> 00:55:10,400 You have a kind of higher quality of life. And so there is, I think, so much attention to Paris as this kind of site for projecting American identity, 470 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:20,990 in part because the colony is like varying in size permanently between kind of eight and ten thousand people, but it's really visible. 471 00:55:20,990 --> 00:55:30,140 And so across art and kind of writing and the development of their own newspapers, 472 00:55:30,140 --> 00:55:35,700 and there's a lot of kind of self-reflection that is happening in that space. 473 00:55:35,700 --> 00:55:44,340 This we just got a question in that I think might be a nice piggyback on on what we're already discussing, but from Leah, 474 00:55:44,340 --> 00:55:53,790 how does the idea of this innocence performed in in Paris maybe relate to American collectors in the late 19th century, 475 00:55:53,790 --> 00:55:58,800 art collectors who are acquiring artwork throughout Europe but in Paris? 476 00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:06,000 Yeah, now that's another great question. And I think that so the other impetus for going to Paris is that the biggest 477 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:10,230 collectors in the US after the Civil War are buying French academic painting. 478 00:56:10,230 --> 00:56:19,560 And so I think there's a hope that these art students will attain that system of painting and then find a market for their work when they return. 479 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:27,990 And so there is definitely an interest in kind of trying to capitalise on that possibility. 480 00:56:27,990 --> 00:56:33,690 The other thing that this research has uncovered and we'll talk more about this next week is that there was a 481 00:56:33,690 --> 00:56:42,480 really close indicated relationship between U.S. businessmen who are also art collectors in Paris in the 1890s, 482 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:49,470 especially and the U.S. art community. They were funding the artists clubs that were formed in that decade. 483 00:56:49,470 --> 00:56:55,110 They were commissioning U.S. artists in Paris to make advertisements for their businesses. 484 00:56:55,110 --> 00:57:01,680 And so there is a kind of close connexion there that not only fuels the possible market for art, 485 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:07,650 but also kind of enables continued cultural practise in Paris. 486 00:57:07,650 --> 00:57:10,410 And there's a lot of commentary in the 1890s, 487 00:57:10,410 --> 00:57:17,820 especially about how there's enough of an infrastructure there that going to Paris is like going to the United States because you 488 00:57:17,820 --> 00:57:27,150 can navigate these systems that are put in place with without really having to interact or find yourself in the French milieu, 489 00:57:27,150 --> 00:57:31,190 except perhaps in the Italian. 490 00:57:31,190 --> 00:57:39,710 So I think that that's that would fit in with a James Ian trope of certain kinds of American businesspeople who go abroad and never leave home, 491 00:57:39,710 --> 00:57:46,730 really. But I think that but if the questioner was partly asking, you know, aren't, aren't these people, 492 00:57:46,730 --> 00:57:53,990 although they may be living in that American bubble that they that they're buying European art? 493 00:57:53,990 --> 00:58:03,080 And is there something you know it is? It isn't. Is that, you know, it's sort of going against the myth of innocence? 494 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:08,100 Or is that is that some in some ways actually another another form? 495 00:58:08,100 --> 00:58:11,180 Well, that's a great question. I think I think it's layered. 496 00:58:11,180 --> 00:58:20,000 Peter, for example, one of the probably the favourite painting in the Louvre in this period is Maria, was immaculate conception. 497 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:26,960 So many people write about it in their letters, in their diaries, and there is this interest in the picture. 498 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:31,880 I think as a wrapper of kind of simple piety, 499 00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:40,190 and that's those are the kind of themes that people are looking for in the European painting of the period, at least in centred around that picture. 500 00:58:40,190 --> 00:58:50,390 Sure. And so I think that interest is indicative of the ways in which many of these individuals are being quite selective 501 00:58:50,390 --> 00:59:00,050 about what a European source material they're wanting to engage with as they kind of dip into this cultural space. 502 00:59:00,050 --> 00:59:05,960 But to I think the and this gets back, I think to our first question as well. 503 00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:15,830 I'm really interested in the kind of language of discovery that gets employed for discussing travel in France and the ways in which that is 504 00:59:15,830 --> 00:59:25,240 producing or reproducing the kind of exploration narrative that earlier had been so focussed on the borderlands of the US going to the West. 505 00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:28,010 Same kind of mantra, especially again in the 1890s, 506 00:59:28,010 --> 00:59:38,240 gets mapped back over to Europe in a way that I think is about building this exploratory discovery position. 507 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:48,890 But it also is imperialist. That might relate to a just as a comment that you're a very interesting move at the end when you 508 00:59:48,890 --> 00:59:55,610 talked about Henry James and his idea of of a way in which a lack of a native artistic tradition, 509 00:59:55,610 --> 01:00:03,680 cultural tradition, perceived lack could actually lead not to an emphasis on present tense newness. 510 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:08,450 But to a kind of a knowing approach to the wider world. 511 01:00:08,450 --> 01:00:15,950 A kind of, you know, a kind of a, you know, an opening up sort of like of the American Idol, 512 01:00:15,950 --> 01:00:21,560 unlike the Italian whose luck caught in Italian culture and the Frenchman who was caught in French culture, whatever. 513 01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:27,830 You know that that the American is somehow freed a little bit by its lack of cultural tradition, 514 01:00:27,830 --> 01:00:33,560 but not to become an innocent, but to become a kind of aesthetic cosmopolitan. 515 01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:37,280 Who exactly? That's the word that was sticking out to me as you were just speaking, Peter, 516 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:44,410 that it makes me think about your work on kind of travelling culture and the ways in which it's easy for us 517 01:00:44,410 --> 01:00:50,600 to trace the threads of a kind of trope of American ness if we're talking about U.S. literature in the US. 518 01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:57,650 But if we look at this kind of circulating writers who are circulating, we're writing about people who are circulating. 519 01:00:57,650 --> 01:01:05,660 We can also find this aesthetic that is kind of inflicting this ingenuous ness with a cosmopolitan energy kind of a knowledge 520 01:01:05,660 --> 01:01:14,600 of of multiple cultures and the multiplicity of cultures and about transcend the dynamics of international detriment. 521 01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,970 Franklin is also an example of this. 522 01:01:16,970 --> 01:01:25,360 But I want it's just there are also a couple of questions related to gender, OK, that I think might be really interesting here. 523 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:31,550 And so one of them is that we're really having some interesting dialogue here. 524 01:01:31,550 --> 01:01:42,600 Tricia. Yeah. So was the idea of innocence naivete performed by American women artists in the late 19th century. 525 01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:50,640 Sorry, will you just say the first part of that again, Peter, I think what did did was the idea of this, you know, 526 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:58,200 this performed in a sense or performed naivete, also something that we've seen in American women artists simply. 527 01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,770 Yes, thank you. That's such a great question. And we're going to talk a lot about that next week. 528 01:02:01,770 --> 01:02:06,510 So whoever asked, I hope you'll come back. But yes, 529 01:02:06,510 --> 01:02:11,730 and I think that the situation for women is particularly interesting because the there are 530 01:02:11,730 --> 01:02:19,110 estimates that about a third of the artists who went to Paris to train in this period were women. 531 01:02:19,110 --> 01:02:25,020 And so we have a lot of women artists who are going to France. But I, 532 01:02:25,020 --> 01:02:32,370 my sense is that women are also kind of put in a bind in the sense that this trope of innocence uses the kind of 533 01:02:32,370 --> 01:02:42,390 impressionable female flower as a metaphor for larger anxieties about American culture getting absorbed into French culture. 534 01:02:42,390 --> 01:02:51,660 And so as they become kind of allegories in this international exchange, and there's another book by I think it's William Dean Howells, 535 01:02:51,660 --> 01:03:00,360 the lady of the Aroostook, where the main character, Lydia kind of goes abroad and has this flirtation on the ship. 536 01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:10,650 And it's as much about this character as it is this speaking through this anxiety about American culture kind of losing its wealth. 537 01:03:10,650 --> 01:03:20,340 And there's a lot of discussion about women in France having access to the nude and having access to kind of bohemian society. 538 01:03:20,340 --> 01:03:23,730 The there is a woman named Mrs. John Sherwood, 539 01:03:23,730 --> 01:03:30,090 who wrote a few articles in the 1890s in which she articulates this kind of what I call it hysterical hyperbole, 540 01:03:30,090 --> 01:03:35,970 where she says 11000 virgins annually across the Atlantic. 541 01:03:35,970 --> 01:03:40,170 And so there is this kind of commentary that is kind of floating around. 542 01:03:40,170 --> 01:03:46,230 And I, my sense is that it allergies women artists who are going abroad because it kind of de professionalise them 543 01:03:46,230 --> 01:03:54,720 by implying that they will be more likely to be subsumed into this trope or into this kind of bohemian life. 544 01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:59,580 And so there are artists clubs that are formed in the 1890s, both for men and women. 545 01:03:59,580 --> 01:04:04,890 But the clubs for women are tend to kind of again de professionalise. 546 01:04:04,890 --> 01:04:11,100 Even as they have exhibition spaces, they focussed on lodging so that women are protected. 547 01:04:11,100 --> 01:04:15,360 And there's also and this is something we'll talk about next week to a large 548 01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:21,120 Protestant community in Paris and the chapel that they built that we'll talk about. 549 01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:24,810 I was just reading recently letters by a woman who worshipped there, 550 01:04:24,810 --> 01:04:30,450 and she comments often in her letters that it's mostly women who are attending the chapel there. 551 01:04:30,450 --> 01:04:38,850 And so I think that there are ways in which women are kind of caught up in this discourse in different ways. 552 01:04:38,850 --> 01:04:43,380 But then there's also the ways in which they are kind of pushing back against these 553 01:04:43,380 --> 01:04:48,180 tropes and really interesting ways that and I'll talk more about that next week. 554 01:04:48,180 --> 01:04:57,810 But that talking about this as a discourse, a gendered discourse and a series of tropes that leads to another question from come already that, 555 01:04:57,810 --> 01:05:04,530 you know, you may say that you don't you don't have any information to bring us on this subject, but I think it's very interesting and relevant. 556 01:05:04,530 --> 01:05:17,810 What are your thoughts on Nabokov's Lolita in the young American innocence versus the older European perspective and expectations? 557 01:05:17,810 --> 01:05:25,350 You know, is is is Nabokov an interesting example of the survival of this same discourse, the discourse? 558 01:05:25,350 --> 01:05:29,790 Well, you have suggested a book, but now I need to go read to because I've not read it, 559 01:05:29,790 --> 01:05:35,220 but I have looked there's a really wonderful book that I find really compelling. 560 01:05:35,220 --> 01:05:43,560 Written by Paul Giles called Virtual Americans, and it's about this transatlantic literary tradition in the 20th century. 561 01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:47,370 And I know that Nabokov is one of his big case studies in that text, 562 01:05:47,370 --> 01:05:55,380 but I'm interested in the way that he thinks about the idea of the virtual as a way to think about. 563 01:05:55,380 --> 01:06:02,850 Kind of demystifying myth and that we if we think about transnational refraction, 564 01:06:02,850 --> 01:06:12,360 he describes it as a kind of elliptical structure whereby doing comparative studies, we see that stereotypes are kind of flattening. 565 01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:19,170 But then we end up with this kind of elliptical shape if we compare cultural perspectives. 566 01:06:19,170 --> 01:06:24,390 And so I think that he will likely delve into that question in greater detail. 567 01:06:24,390 --> 01:06:27,870 Mm-Hmm. Well, I wondered if this might go back. 568 01:06:27,870 --> 01:06:35,940 I think one possible source for the Lolita dynamic and open discourse might be Daisy Miller. 569 01:06:35,940 --> 01:06:41,670 Henry James James is Daisy Miller. And in that work, I think you, you know, you make good use of it. 570 01:06:41,670 --> 01:06:47,880 It's a very interesting example for you sort of anticipate in the late 19th century issues you deal with, but they do. 571 01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:52,050 There is a Winterbourne who is an example of an American, 572 01:06:52,050 --> 01:06:58,020 but who is sort of paralysed by his internalisation of the European traditions and codes, et cetera. 573 01:06:58,020 --> 01:07:09,480 And then there's Daisy Miller, the woman American who is, you know, the figure of a weird kind of vulgar, you know, 574 01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:19,440 untouched, unformed innocence, but also, you know, sort of a mythic innocence, but also a performer of innocence. 575 01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:25,980 So it does that. Would that play out in that, you know, that same discourse? 576 01:07:25,980 --> 01:07:32,100 Yes, I think so. And yeah, I think that James is really rich for building these characters that are kind of already 577 01:07:32,100 --> 01:07:37,590 abroad and the ways in which they're sort of partially shaped by that experience, 578 01:07:37,590 --> 01:07:43,880 but then the kind of personalities that they try to retain. 579 01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:51,000 That just I think this also anticipates lectures to come in the series, which is a good thing. 580 01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:55,880 But John has a question about switching to race. 581 01:07:55,880 --> 01:08:06,710 And I actually wonder too, you said that you had a statement about the way innocence re and scribes racial hierarchy based on asked the question 582 01:08:06,710 --> 01:08:14,330 How did black artists burdened in the U.S. by racist assumptions that their naivete demonstrated ignorance, 583 01:08:14,330 --> 01:08:22,250 not promise or perceptiveness navigate debates over the innocence of U.S. artists in Paris? 584 01:08:22,250 --> 01:08:32,030 Thanks, John. That's a great question, and I hope you come in two weeks time because that will be a kind of fundamental question of the discussion. 585 01:08:32,030 --> 01:08:40,670 One of the things that I uncovered in this research is that the Big U.S. Artists Club in Paris, the American Heart Association, 586 01:08:40,670 --> 01:08:49,400 had an annual minstrel show blackface performance to raise money to fund the club's activities and and exhibitions. 587 01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:56,120 And I'm really interested in thinking about how that performance participates in this larger trajectory in building ideas 588 01:08:56,120 --> 01:09:07,070 for French observers that expect African Americans and Native Americans to be primitive in compared with white Americans. 589 01:09:07,070 --> 01:09:12,380 And I think that is part of the reason that this is starting to happen in the US colony. 590 01:09:12,380 --> 01:09:24,110 But the other half of that story is about the arrival of black artists who begin to work in Paris and especially in the 1890s and early 20th century, 591 01:09:24,110 --> 01:09:32,030 like Henry Osawa, Tanner Meadows, who work Fuller, William Harper as well. 592 01:09:32,030 --> 01:09:40,160 And so I'm really interested in thinking about how they intersect with not only ideas about race, but also ideas about innocence. 593 01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:49,130 And I'm also going to be looking at the exhibit of American Negroes that was in the Paris Exposition in nineteen hundred and the ways in 594 01:09:49,130 --> 01:10:02,780 which even as that exhibition is building a narrative of black culture that is all about kind of progress and incipient and a cultural youth, 595 01:10:02,780 --> 01:10:09,650 that that narrative is, of course, countering the racist stereotypes of caricature in minstrelsy. 596 01:10:09,650 --> 01:10:16,130 But it's actually replacing it with a narrative that fuels the larger narrative about U.S. culture in Paris. 597 01:10:16,130 --> 01:10:21,680 And so we'll look more at those intricacies and complexities in two weeks. 598 01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:25,460 I think we're kind of we're kind of getting near the end, but we have a. 599 01:10:25,460 --> 01:10:30,170 There are a lot of questions that are coming in now, which is a great sign. 600 01:10:30,170 --> 01:10:34,490 But but maybe we have time for one more one and a half more or something like that. 601 01:10:34,490 --> 01:10:44,630 But from Zack, is this something that actually, I'm not sure if it does preview preview a future lecture, but could you sketch briefly? 602 01:10:44,630 --> 01:10:56,160 Asks Zack how this dynamic perhaps played out for Americans in other European cities besides like Rome or Florence or what? 603 01:10:56,160 --> 01:11:04,370 Yeah, that's a great question. And certainly there are a lot of U.S. artists who are working in Rome a little earlier in the century. 604 01:11:04,370 --> 01:11:11,210 Some artists who are working in London earlier and also kind of concurrently. 605 01:11:11,210 --> 01:11:14,630 And I am trying to think about Rome. 606 01:11:14,630 --> 01:11:21,330 There are certainly ways in which these kinds of anxieties about European culture merging comes through. 607 01:11:21,330 --> 01:11:28,610 I'm thinking about like the The Marble Fan by Nathaniel Hawthorne, imagining artists in Rome. 608 01:11:28,610 --> 01:11:32,210 One of the other things we'll look at next week are artist studios in Paris, 609 01:11:32,210 --> 01:11:39,560 and Hawthorne creates a kind of studio of kind of seclusion and her medicine in Rome 610 01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:46,400 to kind of protect the U.S. artist from the kind of bohemian morale's around him. 611 01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:52,850 And so I think that discourse is a bit restage there as well. 612 01:11:52,850 --> 01:11:58,310 And I'm also thinking about Roderick Hudson to the other James novel where the character 613 01:11:58,310 --> 01:12:06,860 goes abroad and kind of in the line of Daisy Miller kind of falls into this personality. 614 01:12:06,860 --> 01:12:16,610 And the other thing that's coming to mind is actually not from this period, but from the late 18th century when Copley is working in London. 615 01:12:16,610 --> 01:12:22,820 Emily Value Neff has done some really interesting work about Copley in London and suggested the ways in which Copley 616 01:12:22,820 --> 01:12:31,580 is very aware of international perceptions of a U.S. attachment to nature and a kind of primitive west mentality. 617 01:12:31,580 --> 01:12:38,840 And she thinks that he is quite savvy in cultivating that in different ways as he's navigating the London art world. 618 01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:42,370 And that's an interesting case, too, because as in the U.S. 619 01:12:42,370 --> 01:12:52,270 Colony in Paris, there's not a direct equation between the discourse of this kind of native culture and the art that's produced. 620 01:12:52,270 --> 01:13:02,320 I think it plays through in more complicated ways and also for Copley, who is painting these incredibly mature academic paintings. 621 01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:09,160 Yeah, so too has an amalgamation of of a few other questions some people had, 622 01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:18,280 maybe as a as a capstone also that there were questions about the concept of the central concept of the lateness. 623 01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:25,030 I don't know that you didn't, you know, that came in and out of the lecture, but you know, but I think it's central to the book. 624 01:13:25,030 --> 01:13:32,470 It's the title of the book. But this and the question of whether maybe you could unpack it or expand upon it just as at the end here. 625 01:13:32,470 --> 01:13:35,500 But it seems the opposite in a sense. 626 01:13:35,500 --> 01:13:46,690 In some ways, if, as you say, in the cultural work performed by the myth of Innocence is forgetting a kind of a denial of history, 627 01:13:46,690 --> 01:13:49,030 that relatedness sounds like, 628 01:13:49,030 --> 01:13:58,840 you know, it's a very it's a concept that involves a great, anxious awareness of history, you know, like it's all been done before. 629 01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:03,730 I feel, you know, the weight of all the past achievements in history. 630 01:14:03,730 --> 01:14:06,190 There's room, no room for anything new. 631 01:14:06,190 --> 01:14:15,130 So, you know, again, kind of paralysed by what my aware of everything that's gone before, you know, so that just kind of that idea about, 632 01:14:15,130 --> 01:14:25,150 you know, an artist paralysed about relatedness and you're you're making you're describing it as as a different thing, I guess. 633 01:14:25,150 --> 01:14:31,420 But it is. It does. It does get into that paradox about history and the forgetting of history. 634 01:14:31,420 --> 01:14:35,800 Yeah, absolutely. No, that's really great. And I will definitely think more about this. 635 01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:44,050 But I think that, yeah, I'm thinking about how this kind of obsession with the new and obsession with kind 636 01:14:44,050 --> 01:14:50,550 of structure of innocence creates this idea that a culture has not emerged yet. 637 01:14:50,550 --> 01:14:55,450 And I do think that there is tremendous anxiety and in literary studies, 638 01:14:55,450 --> 01:15:03,160 but also in the history of art in this period about kind of American cultural production. 639 01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:08,440 And so I think that in the same way that innocence as a projection is a paradox. 640 01:15:08,440 --> 01:15:17,580 Relatedness and innocence also operate in a kind of paradoxical relationship and. 641 01:15:17,580 --> 01:15:20,610 There is, I think, 642 01:15:20,610 --> 01:15:32,790 like a I think one thing I want you to think through more is the question of how temporality is operating within both of those concepts, 643 01:15:32,790 --> 01:15:40,570 history and kind of a historicism, as well as innocence and and experience. 644 01:15:40,570 --> 01:15:49,350 You know, you really probed some, you know, just a number of very fascinating paradoxes, innocence and performance we didn't even get to. 645 01:15:49,350 --> 01:15:56,610 And I'm sure we'll get to later at innocence and sexuality, not gender, but the way that that painting, 646 01:15:56,610 --> 01:16:00,950 you know, that there could be an innocence in Walt Whitman or yes, definitely. 647 01:16:00,950 --> 01:16:06,000 But but there's room for more because this is not the end of the conversation, 648 01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:11,370 but I am getting messages that that this does look like we're out of time. 649 01:16:11,370 --> 01:16:19,140 So I would like to take this opportunity to thank Emily one less time for her very provocative, 650 01:16:19,140 --> 01:16:25,290 thought provoking lecture this evening and to torture again for hosting this event tonight. 651 01:16:25,290 --> 01:16:31,500 A big thank you also to the audience members at home for watching and for 652 01:16:31,500 --> 01:16:35,790 participating in a lively discussion and sending in your questions and so on. 653 01:16:35,790 --> 01:16:43,410 So I'm sorry that we weren't able to answer all of the questions, but as I said, the conversation continues. 654 01:16:43,410 --> 01:16:50,700 I'm looking forward to the next instalment, so Emily will be exploring related issues in the lectures to follow. 655 01:16:50,700 --> 01:16:57,660 Please do join us for next week's event, the second in this four part terror lecture series, 656 01:16:57,660 --> 01:17:04,500 which will take place on Wednesday 24th February at five p.m. UK time. 657 01:17:04,500 --> 01:17:15,150 Emily will be joined by one to Corn, the Robert and Ruth Halprin, Professor Emerita of Art History at Stanford University, for that second lecture. 658 01:17:15,150 --> 01:17:20,430 So we hope you will be able to join us again everyone next week. 659 01:17:20,430 --> 01:17:59,935 And thanks again to thanks to all once again for watching today for the great lecture and good bye for now.