1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:06,089 Okay. So it's basically this kind of. 2 00:00:06,090 --> 00:00:10,950 Lefebvre, I got a vial here, but I can't read. 3 00:00:13,060 --> 00:00:23,820 It's. It's it's in English. I can't read this. So I've known Carol 25 years and better, I think the first time in 1993. 4 00:00:23,940 --> 00:00:26,999 I think maybe 94. Long time. 5 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:31,950 No, but Carol's a founding member of the Kaufman Corporation, as it was then. 6 00:00:32,490 --> 00:00:38,040 And as far as I know, she was the only information officer at the original. 7 00:00:38,580 --> 00:00:46,950 Hmm. Probably. Yep. The meeting and all that started really kind of very precise. 8 00:00:46,950 --> 00:00:50,220 She's incredibly organised and she keeps everybody on their toes. 9 00:00:50,820 --> 00:00:55,530 And this is, I think, a quintessential quality for somebody who does a job. 10 00:00:55,980 --> 00:00:58,110 She Lots of information officer. 11 00:00:58,470 --> 00:01:06,750 Senior Financial Specialist Cochrane said that for 20 years she now does the consultancies and supports people like us. 12 00:01:06,750 --> 00:01:10,560 Strikes me as the best we can with systematic reviews. 13 00:01:11,430 --> 00:01:16,100 Carol and I recently collaborated in that in that Cochran project. 14 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:17,909 I showed you the digits afternoon. 15 00:01:17,910 --> 00:01:29,430 I showed you the results of the survey showing little very little uptake of regulatory data in everyday Cochran work. 16 00:01:30,330 --> 00:01:36,710 Do forget that you were going to ask Carol about the update of the handbook, huh? 17 00:01:37,290 --> 00:01:42,840 So what a delight. I thought I thought this was an opportunity to get away from the handbook for half an hour, but there you go. 18 00:01:43,500 --> 00:01:47,940 Who was I? Wrong. So thank you very much, Tom. 19 00:01:48,690 --> 00:01:54,690 Thank you for the introduction. Thank you to you and Carmel for inviting me to this evening's event. 20 00:01:55,050 --> 00:01:59,520 And thank you, Natalie, for all your support in the administration. 21 00:02:00,450 --> 00:02:07,590 You'll have seen that today's lecture is entitled The Shifting Evidence Paradigm From Literature to Data. 22 00:02:07,950 --> 00:02:13,829 Can I just check that those of you at the back of the room can hear me? Well, it's never usually a problem, let's put it that way. 23 00:02:13,830 --> 00:02:21,270 Okay, that's good. Okay, well, let me just say a few words about the trials and tribulations of pre-dinner speaking. 24 00:02:22,020 --> 00:02:28,379 We'll get that out of the way. I know that I am. What's brought you out of the bar or away from your drinks outside? 25 00:02:28,380 --> 00:02:33,630 Even on an evening such as this? And I know that I'm all that rest between you and dinner. 26 00:02:33,690 --> 00:02:38,700 I am aware of both of those things, and it's not an auspicious start, it has to say. 27 00:02:39,750 --> 00:02:43,980 But the one thing that Tom didn't say about me is that I always finish on time. 28 00:02:44,370 --> 00:02:51,030 So I have been allocated a certain amount of time for this and we have been allocated time for questions and discussions afterwards. 29 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:56,250 So please be reassured that you will get to your dinner in time. 30 00:02:57,420 --> 00:03:03,480 I'm going to start with some declarations of interest. So for those of you who do know me or have come across my name or whatever, 31 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:08,370 you will undoubtedly associate me with Cochrane for the reasons that Tom has suggested. 32 00:03:09,150 --> 00:03:12,420 I have been a founder member of Cochrane since 1992. 33 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:20,340 When Cochrane started, there were about eight or nine of us and there are now something like 50 to 100000 people involved in Cochrane. 34 00:03:21,210 --> 00:03:27,930 But there was the, the director of the Cochrane Centre three in Chalmers who was an obstetrician, 35 00:03:28,230 --> 00:03:31,620 there was a clinical pharmacologist, Andrew Horkheimer. 36 00:03:31,620 --> 00:03:36,600 You may have come across his name too, and I was the only other professionally qualified member of staff. 37 00:03:36,930 --> 00:03:44,700 So that was how Cochrane was in those days in 92 and what I'm going to be talking about today, I'm going to be talking a bit about how we've moved on. 38 00:03:44,700 --> 00:03:47,280 I'm going to be talking about this shifting paradigm. 39 00:03:47,910 --> 00:03:52,620 I'm also the co-convenor of the Cochrane Information Retrieval Methods Group that advises Cochrane 40 00:03:52,620 --> 00:03:57,599 what to do with regard to searching for studies and a member of the Cochrane Methods Executive, 41 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:04,319 which advises more widely over methods. I'm the lead author on the searching chapter of the Cochrane Handbook, 42 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:11,310 which has meanwhile morphed to searching and selecting studies within within the chapter that I am responsible for. 43 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:19,020 And I'll say a little about that later. And as Thomas mentioned, I'm a co participant in the Cochrane funded Clinical Study Reports project, 44 00:04:19,020 --> 00:04:23,429 of which he was the PI and many, many other hats, I have no doubt. 45 00:04:23,430 --> 00:04:28,950 But I think the key thing is the key elements of this slide as well are what is written on the bottom. 46 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,580 I'm no longer employed by Cochrane and haven't been since 2012. 47 00:04:32,580 --> 00:04:39,360 I am not employed by our publisher either. Wylie So what you hear today is an independent view and an independent voice. 48 00:04:40,860 --> 00:04:43,950 So as you be aware from your programs, 49 00:04:43,950 --> 00:04:52,859 this evening's presentation will address the shift in focus over the last 20 years away from purely literature searching that is only 50 00:04:52,860 --> 00:04:59,820 searching databases such as Medline or PubMed for the published literature such as journal articles and books for identifying stuff. 51 00:05:00,030 --> 00:05:01,440 For evidence synthesis. 52 00:05:01,950 --> 00:05:09,990 She will consider the ever increasing role of unpublished data sources such as trials, registers and regulatory agents through sources. 53 00:05:10,230 --> 00:05:14,520 So that was my brief. So I'm going to start with some definitions, Tom said. 54 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,870 I was very precise, and yes, I do like to be precise. 55 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:24,420 So starting with some definitions of literature, great literature and data. 56 00:05:24,900 --> 00:05:33,660 So let's start with literature. Literature is defined in the Oxford English Dictionary definition as written works, 57 00:05:33,660 --> 00:05:40,800 especially those considered as superior or lasting artistic merit, books and writings published on a particular subject. 58 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:47,880 So the bottom line is that literature is published sources, for example, journal articles and books. 59 00:05:49,050 --> 00:05:54,900 But within literature we have different types of literature, one of which is grey literature. 60 00:05:55,650 --> 00:05:59,700 And grey literature therefore is a subset of literature. 61 00:06:00,210 --> 00:06:04,740 And generally when people talk about great literature, they're talking about dissertations, 62 00:06:04,740 --> 00:06:09,090 theses reports and so on, and I won't go through the slides in detail. 63 00:06:09,090 --> 00:06:16,860 I think that Nathalie intends to make the slides available to the participants after the event, so you don't need to take lots of photographs. 64 00:06:16,860 --> 00:06:24,120 You will get the originals. But grey literature is defined as that which is produced on all levels of government, 65 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:29,670 academics, business, etc., etc., but which is not controlled by commercial publishers. 66 00:06:30,270 --> 00:06:37,200 And then they went on a few years later to amend the definition to say not controlled by commercial publishers, 67 00:06:37,350 --> 00:06:41,640 where publishing is not the main primary activity of the producing body. 68 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:48,479 So great literature is published, but it's not published by somebody whose main aim is publishing. 69 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:56,460 So for example, a thesis is published by Oxford University, but the University of Oxford doesn't exist to publish theses or to publish anything else. 70 00:06:57,030 --> 00:07:00,990 So great literature is published. It just simply happens to be grey. 71 00:07:01,530 --> 00:07:06,509 But what about data? What about this shift that there is from literature searching? 72 00:07:06,510 --> 00:07:14,040 The phrase that we all used to use so much, and I'll mention it now, in case I forget, this is a deviation into the handbook. 73 00:07:14,460 --> 00:07:19,560 The Searching for Studies chapter in the handbook runs to about 100 pages and it's 74 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,879 entitled Originally Searching for study is now searching for in Selecting Studies, 75 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,280 but the main focus is searching for studies in that site. 76 00:07:27,330 --> 00:07:31,080 In the whole chapter on searching for studies, running to 100 pages. 77 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,650 How many times do you think we use the word literature searching? 78 00:07:36,060 --> 00:07:40,880 How many people think it might be over 50? Okay. 79 00:07:40,940 --> 00:07:44,180 How many people think it might be? Between 20 and 50. 80 00:07:44,900 --> 00:07:48,290 The phrase literature searching. How many people think it might be? 81 00:07:48,290 --> 00:07:54,500 Between five and 20. How many people think it might be between nought and five? 82 00:07:54,890 --> 00:08:03,830 Yeah. Well done, you guys. It says it's a phrase that I am trying to stamp out because literature searching is such a small part of what we do. 83 00:08:04,100 --> 00:08:07,549 And I'll be going on to say that literature searching is important. 84 00:08:07,550 --> 00:08:11,370 It's still important to search databases such as Medline and Mace and so on. 85 00:08:11,660 --> 00:08:18,080 But literature searching is not the whole story. And we shouldn't just glibly use this phrase literature searching, 86 00:08:18,260 --> 00:08:24,050 when what we're really talking about is identifying studies for systematic reviews and other evidence synthesis. 87 00:08:24,620 --> 00:08:28,160 So that brings us back nicely to data. 88 00:08:28,220 --> 00:08:37,490 Data are data. And the Oxford English Dictionary definition for that is facts and statistics collected together for reference or analysis. 89 00:08:38,540 --> 00:08:42,300 So data are published are available in the published literature. 90 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:46,610 Obviously, if you do a Medline search and you find a journal article, it may well have data. 91 00:08:47,150 --> 00:08:52,610 Data may be published in someone's thesis or dissertation, in which case it would be data from the grey literature. 92 00:08:52,790 --> 00:08:56,150 But data are also available in unpublished sources, 93 00:08:56,510 --> 00:09:03,709 and the unpublished sources that are probably most important for identifying studies for systematic reviews would be trials, 94 00:09:03,710 --> 00:09:05,660 registers, clinical study reports, 95 00:09:05,660 --> 00:09:12,980 which Tom has started going through with you on the program today and will continue tomorrow and regulatory agency documents. 96 00:09:14,330 --> 00:09:22,850 So looking at this in a Venn diagram format, you have literature and within literature you have published you have published literature. 97 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:32,120 And within published literature you have great literature. And as we know, there's a vast amount of literature that has no data in it whatsoever. 98 00:09:32,210 --> 00:09:36,890 It doesn't that doesn't have to be any data in literature, but some in the central section there, 99 00:09:37,310 --> 00:09:44,150 some literature will contain data, but the vast amounts of data outside of all of this literature. 100 00:09:44,570 --> 00:09:54,379 So the areas that I was just talking about, the areas of trials registers, clinical study reports and regulatory documents, they are not published. 101 00:09:54,380 --> 00:10:03,620 And it's that that we need to focus more heavily on. But that's not to say that the published literature is not important. 102 00:10:03,620 --> 00:10:11,779 And you have seen from the program that your course is addressing this week that unless the last most recent version of the program is changed, 103 00:10:11,780 --> 00:10:13,850 but the program that I received today, 104 00:10:14,060 --> 00:10:22,580 you were hearing from Tom and Camel reviews of unpublished late data searching for unpublished data and regulatory data. 105 00:10:23,090 --> 00:10:28,550 And then tomorrow, you'll be hearing from Lawyer Roberts about searching for published data. 106 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:37,430 So this program that you're attending this week is recognising both the published and the unpublished data and, 107 00:10:37,430 --> 00:10:41,690 of course, qualitative evidence syntheses, which I think you were addressing on Thursday. 108 00:10:41,930 --> 00:10:50,419 They may extend beyond what we generally call data into other areas of information which are relevant for qualitative synthesis, 109 00:10:50,420 --> 00:10:53,840 or rather since that synthesis of qualitative data. MORE Exactly. 110 00:10:54,950 --> 00:10:59,600 So what about the shifting evidence paradigm from literature to data? 111 00:10:59,960 --> 00:11:04,910 There has been a shift in focus over the last 20 years from purely literature searching, 112 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:10,340 that is, searching only databases such as Medline, PubMed and base and so on. 113 00:11:10,580 --> 00:11:17,000 And there has been a considerable shift towards unpublished sources of data in line with their development and access. 114 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:24,110 And I've started this in 1992 because this is when I started in this area, when I first joined Cochrane. 115 00:11:24,350 --> 00:11:29,540 And in those days there were practically no trials registers, no general trials registers, 116 00:11:29,540 --> 00:11:34,430 no company specific trials registers that were available outside of their own companies. 117 00:11:34,700 --> 00:11:37,700 But there were a few registers within cancer. 118 00:11:38,330 --> 00:11:42,830 And my colleague Ian Chalmers, the director of the UK Cochrane Centre, 119 00:11:43,070 --> 00:11:49,100 worked very closely with the drug company Sharing and eventually in 1997 Sharing 120 00:11:49,100 --> 00:11:54,860 declared that they would provide detailed outline details of 30 of their trials. 121 00:11:55,160 --> 00:12:00,979 And you might think, wow, big news. But I can tell you in 1997 that was enormously big news. 122 00:12:00,980 --> 00:12:04,430 And we wrote an article we couldn't avoid the pun of sharing a sharing too, 123 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:11,600 but we wrote an article in Cochrane News to announce this what we felt was a monumental event at that time. 124 00:12:13,910 --> 00:12:19,280 GlaxoSmithKline followed suit in 1998 and also in 1998. 125 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:26,720 The Current Control Trials website was launched, The Better Register was launched, which unfortunately now is under review. 126 00:12:27,050 --> 00:12:32,660 But the first standard numbering system also came in but wasn't through clinicaltrials.gov. 127 00:12:32,660 --> 00:12:36,380 That was through current control trials. It was the esr ctn. 128 00:12:36,620 --> 00:12:43,760 So we eventually had a means of numbering trials. So that we could tell which trial was which in multiple publications. 129 00:12:44,450 --> 00:12:48,200 And it wasn't till 2000 that clinical trials takeoff was launched. 130 00:12:48,470 --> 00:12:54,770 So for many of you, you have always had clinical trials available to you within your professional careers. 131 00:12:55,460 --> 00:12:59,650 You probably don't even remember back to a time prior to clinical trials go. 132 00:12:59,690 --> 00:13:06,049 But believe me, there was a time prior to clinical trials dot gov and it was four years later that the International Committee of Medical 133 00:13:06,050 --> 00:13:12,770 Journal Editors announced their refusal to publish subsequently any reports of trials not prospectively registered. 134 00:13:13,820 --> 00:13:17,270 So that was a major contribution by the Medical Journal editors. 135 00:13:17,780 --> 00:13:20,780 And a few years later, the I CTP, 136 00:13:20,810 --> 00:13:27,110 the International Clinical Trials Registry Platform Search Portal was launched by the 137 00:13:27,110 --> 00:13:31,910 World Health Organisation and that currently brings together 17 separate registries. 138 00:13:33,650 --> 00:13:46,100 In 2008, the federal law came in, it came in with effect from 2008, enacted in 2007, and that included a section on clinical trials databases. 139 00:13:46,100 --> 00:13:55,190 And it expanded the types of clinical trials that increase the number of data elements and also required submission of certain results data. 140 00:13:55,370 --> 00:14:02,360 And it was that that was really important because you know that when you're doing a systematic review, what you want the results, you want the data. 141 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:06,350 You don't want information about a trial. It's still ongoing necessarily. 142 00:14:06,740 --> 00:14:11,540 It has other uses. I won't say it's not useful, but it doesn't provide data for your matter. 143 00:14:11,570 --> 00:14:20,690 Analysis. In 2011, Cochrane started looking at standards and we declared that searching trials registers. 144 00:14:20,690 --> 00:14:31,010 So to find these unpublished data. We declared that to be mandatory and we said that you had to search both clinicaltrials.gov and the W.H.O. portal. 145 00:14:31,700 --> 00:14:36,590 And we gave the rationale for that, which I'll leave you to look at later when you get the slides. 146 00:14:38,180 --> 00:14:45,350 In January 2013, the All Trials campaign was launched, founded by Ben Goldacre and others, 147 00:14:45,350 --> 00:14:56,450 including the Centre for Evidence based Medicine here in Oxford. And in 2013, GSK established a clinical study data request initiative. 148 00:14:57,830 --> 00:15:04,010 And in December 2013, agreement was reached in principle within the European Parliament that there would 149 00:15:04,010 --> 00:15:10,040 be a European Medicines Agency register of all trials carried out in the EU. 150 00:15:10,430 --> 00:15:14,050 So that was again a very important step forward. 151 00:15:15,790 --> 00:15:22,640 I can. I'll leave you to read the notes of that when you get the get the slides in April 2014. 152 00:15:23,060 --> 00:15:27,620 I was thinking about not including this because obviously Tom has already spoken to you today, 153 00:15:27,620 --> 00:15:33,070 but it seemed a bit ungenerous to not included in the major, you know, 154 00:15:33,170 --> 00:15:37,520 the major steps that have happened, the major developments, the major influences. 155 00:15:37,730 --> 00:15:44,360 But I'm not going to say anything more about this because this is the study that Tom has already talked to you about today, 156 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:50,270 the Tamiflu Relenza review based solely on clinical study reports. 157 00:15:50,690 --> 00:15:53,780 And there you have the data from that study. 158 00:15:54,530 --> 00:16:00,530 I'm not sure whether Tom gave you the URLs for these other pieces of information about that study, 159 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,860 but that's something that you can follow up later on. 160 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:14,450 And in September 2016, the Department of Health and Human Services issued the final rule for clinical trials, registration and results information. 161 00:16:14,750 --> 00:16:20,300 And that expanded the registration and results information submission requirements. 162 00:16:21,140 --> 00:16:25,730 And I'm not sure whether you've already looked at it today or whether you will be tomorrow, 163 00:16:26,570 --> 00:16:31,520 but the EMA have started to release clinical data in the form of clinical study reports. 164 00:16:31,850 --> 00:16:40,879 When I first did some slides that was similar to this for something else in May 2017, they only had 20 cases listed. 165 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:49,490 In October 2017 they had 54, and now in June 2018, when I checked that today there were 109. 166 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:55,610 So that's an ever increasing resource. But that's not to say that everything's working perfectly. 167 00:16:55,610 --> 00:17:01,909 There are any number of faults that one could find with with the majority, if not all of the things that I've put up. 168 00:17:01,910 --> 00:17:04,010 I'm not saying we now live in a perfect world. 169 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:15,110 What I'm trying to convey is that the world has changed since, you know, since 1992, when I started work in this area, as Tom says, 25 years ago. 170 00:17:15,860 --> 00:17:21,169 So within Cochrane, how have we changed in this line? 171 00:17:21,170 --> 00:17:27,829 The Cochrane Central Register of Control Trials. Central You're probably familiar with this from when you search the Cochrane Library. 172 00:17:27,830 --> 00:17:30,410 This is the trials register within the Cochrane Library. 173 00:17:30,980 --> 00:17:42,410 So as I say, the UK, the UK CC was founded in 1992 and I was hired as the information specialist and my first task was to build central. 174 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,070 So the immediate focus was on literature searching, 175 00:17:46,310 --> 00:17:54,230 bringing us back to our to our topic of literature versus data that is searching bibliographic databases, indexing the published literature. 176 00:17:54,230 --> 00:17:56,120 So indexing journal articles. 177 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:06,559 And we were focusing first of all on identifying reports of randomised controlled trials from Medline and at that time Matthias Ecker, 178 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:14,840 whose name will be familiar to many of you, said that this was clearly the best single source of published trials for inclusion in systematic reviews. 179 00:18:15,980 --> 00:18:23,060 Our second focus then was on identifying reports from Embase again literature searching bibliographic database basis. 180 00:18:23,390 --> 00:18:26,450 But that project has now expanded enormously. 181 00:18:26,450 --> 00:18:32,390 It's now done using crowdsourcing, so individual volunteers, a citizen science initiative, 182 00:18:33,230 --> 00:18:38,660 text mining and indeed taking text mining to the next level of training the machine. 183 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:43,550 So machine learning to try and optimise the identification of those studies. 184 00:18:44,390 --> 00:18:53,180 But from the point of view of today's topic, Central now also includes unpublished study records from trials registries such as clinicaltrials.gov. 185 00:18:53,540 --> 00:18:57,560 So Central also is moving into this area of unpublished studies. 186 00:18:59,510 --> 00:19:05,180 So what do other organisations recommend with regard to searching for unpublished and regulatory data? 187 00:19:05,570 --> 00:19:14,060 AAC in the US recognises you'll see that their definition doesn't meet my definition, but you know, you can't persuade everybody all of the time. 188 00:19:14,780 --> 00:19:19,040 So apart from the fact that they use grey literature, I think in the wrong way. 189 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:27,169 I agree with what they say that grey literature x strike the word including so grey literature, regulatory data, 190 00:19:27,170 --> 00:19:33,050 clinical trials, registries and conference abstracts should be searched in addition to bibliographic databases. 191 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,520 The Cochrane guidance that we're working on at the moment that will be published 192 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:42,290 in 2018 goes into a great deal more detail about regulatory agency data, 193 00:19:42,290 --> 00:19:46,550 clinical study reports, and we will be advocating that all are important. 194 00:19:46,910 --> 00:19:54,860 And the US Institute of Medicine guidance again says that clinical trials dot gov, clinical study results, 195 00:19:55,100 --> 00:20:00,400 current controlled trials and the W.H.O. portal together with the FDA Medical Institute, 196 00:20:00,780 --> 00:20:07,370 Statistical Review Records all have a role in standards for systematic reviews. 197 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,770 So just wanted to look at some common misconceptions about unpublished data. 198 00:20:13,460 --> 00:20:20,340 And let's start with clinical trials. What? Of you can't believe how many times I've heard people say that it's a US database. 199 00:20:20,940 --> 00:20:24,179 It's only got us trials in it. That is just so wrong. 200 00:20:24,180 --> 00:20:28,709 And I'll move on to that in a moment. People also say that it's an ongoing trial. 201 00:20:28,710 --> 00:20:32,950 So I just started again when I finished obliterating the phrase literature search from the universe. 202 00:20:32,970 --> 00:20:36,440 I'm going to be moving on to ongoing trials. Okay. 203 00:20:36,450 --> 00:20:40,390 Ongoing trials exist, but let's not get too hung up about ongoing trials. 204 00:20:40,410 --> 00:20:47,700 Every ongoing trial becomes well, it becomes either either a completed or a stop too early or whatever, but it becomes something else. 205 00:20:47,700 --> 00:20:51,389 Ongoing is an interim word. And as I say, 206 00:20:51,390 --> 00:20:58,950 if you're doing a systematic review you want to know about in ongoing trials in the sense that you're not going to publish your systematic review, 207 00:20:58,950 --> 00:21:04,170 if that's an ongoing trial, that's going to finish in a month's time. When you're going to get the data in three months, you will hold back. 208 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:09,240 But the whole point about an ongoing trial is that when it's finished, you get the data and you include them in your review. 209 00:21:09,450 --> 00:21:14,519 So it's not ongoing trials that are so fascinating. It's trials that are so fascinating. 210 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,320 And it's the data from those trials, 211 00:21:16,470 --> 00:21:24,930 irrespective of whether they're published in grey or normal published literature or whether they make their data available in other places. 212 00:21:25,350 --> 00:21:36,150 So clinical trials, sculptors not only have data about and have information about ongoing trials, and also people say it doesn't have any results. 213 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,740 Well, it didn't on day one, but it certainly does now. 214 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:50,940 So taking the first of those, this was taken off the clinicaltrials.gov website earlier today, but they only updated it five days ago. 215 00:21:51,810 --> 00:21:55,920 But you'll see that's the percentage of registered studies by location. 216 00:21:56,220 --> 00:22:02,190 As of June, the 20th was 35% only for the US. 217 00:22:03,060 --> 00:22:09,900 And even if you put both U.S. and non-U.S. in there, you'll still you're still only at 40%. 218 00:22:09,900 --> 00:22:13,800 So you've got 48% of those are non US studies. 219 00:22:14,100 --> 00:22:18,480 So it is absolutely not a register of US studies only. 220 00:22:20,070 --> 00:22:23,040 And the fact that it only has ongoing trials. 221 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:29,460 No, if you again if you look at the you have the URL there so you can check all my facts should you wish to do so. 222 00:22:30,150 --> 00:22:35,820 You'll see that they have all the different statuses of a study, right from not yet recruiting through recruiting, 223 00:22:35,820 --> 00:22:43,140 enrolling by invitation, etc., etc., right the way through to suspend a terminated completed withdrawal. 224 00:22:43,500 --> 00:22:47,190 So you've got absolutely the whole lifecycle of a study in there. 225 00:22:49,230 --> 00:22:57,450 And what I've included on your slides here is how to find studies with results posted to clinicaltrials.gov. 226 00:22:58,020 --> 00:23:05,940 And today, when I last updated these data, they were 31 and a half thousand studies with results posted. 227 00:23:06,120 --> 00:23:09,630 These are not results from the JAMA or BMJ or whatever. 228 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:17,700 These are results where the principal investigator or somebody on their behalf has posted simply the raw results. 229 00:23:18,180 --> 00:23:28,170 So it's a really, really important resource. Common misconceptions about the ICC IP, the W.H.O. resource. 230 00:23:29,010 --> 00:23:39,150 You will find all clinicaltrials.gov records by searching the isotope because the isotope is an overall umbrella to all of these 17 registers. 231 00:23:39,420 --> 00:23:46,590 No, that is absolutely not true. The presence of a record within a resource does not equate to its retrieve ability, 232 00:23:47,670 --> 00:23:53,460 and there are a number of reasons for that, though there are fewer data elements in the isotope version, 233 00:23:53,940 --> 00:24:02,460 there are differences in the search functionality, and there is a time lag in the posting of clinicaltrials.gov records in the isotope. 234 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,270 For ICI. For ClinicalTrials.gov, it's only a week. 235 00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:10,800 I think there are probably about five or six of them that are a week. Most of them are four weeks. 236 00:24:11,250 --> 00:24:17,040 So if you search the primary resource, you're much, much further ahead than you would be. 237 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,540 And it's beyond the scope. And I haven't got time to go into it today. 238 00:24:21,540 --> 00:24:29,820 But my colleague Julie Glanville and others published a very important piece in the Journal of the Medical Library Association in 2014, 239 00:24:30,450 --> 00:24:36,240 giving the evidence base as to why you absolutely must search both registers and not rely on just one. 240 00:24:37,950 --> 00:24:48,510 So what have we done in Cochrane about improving the quality in Cochrane reviews with regard to the types of study that you should be looking for, 241 00:24:48,990 --> 00:24:51,030 published and unpublished studies, 242 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:59,550 that's just a little bit of background about the project called Messier Methodological Expectations in Cochrane Intervention reviews. 243 00:24:59,910 --> 00:25:08,850 The vast majority of the of the the standards were produced in 2011 2012 and then updated in 2016. 244 00:25:09,090 --> 00:25:15,150 And it allows for us to say that such and such is mandatory, which means that if you don't do this in your Cochrane review. 245 00:25:15,180 --> 00:25:23,760 It won't get published. So I've just pulled out a few of the mandatory standards that relate to searching and that relate to sources. 246 00:25:24,090 --> 00:25:30,209 So you'll see we haven't gone completely overboard and said, you no longer need to do literature searching literature, 247 00:25:30,210 --> 00:25:34,710 searching of databases such as Medline and Base and Central. 248 00:25:34,830 --> 00:25:40,110 That's still mandatory for Cochrane reviews of the effectiveness of interventions. 249 00:25:42,180 --> 00:25:47,850 It's also mandatory to address adverse effects, economics and qualitative research should they be relevant? 250 00:25:48,210 --> 00:25:53,010 It's mandatory to search both clinicaltrials.gov and the W.H.O. portal. 251 00:25:53,370 --> 00:25:59,040 It's mandatory to search reference lists of included studies and any relevant systematic reviews. 252 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:06,840 So you'll see that we still have a broad range of both published and unpublished sources that we consider to be important. 253 00:26:08,250 --> 00:26:13,980 So what are the facilitators for this shifting evidence paradigm from literature to data? 254 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:19,530 I think it's largely the developments in access to unpublished data, which I've listed above. 255 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:29,219 I think one very particular facilitator has been the ICI, MJ Journal Editors Declaration, even though it's not always adhered to. 256 00:26:29,220 --> 00:26:34,110 And if you do, if you do a literature search in Medline and or Embase, 257 00:26:34,290 --> 00:26:41,400 you will find records that of studies that talk about where this has not been adhered to. 258 00:26:41,910 --> 00:26:49,230 But I think there is increasing awareness of unpublished sources and there is increasing skills in searching these sources. 259 00:26:50,820 --> 00:26:54,360 But what about the barriers to this shifting evidence paradigm? 260 00:26:55,620 --> 00:27:00,719 Unpublished sources are not peer reviewed. The exclamation mark is for Tom. 261 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,799 I put this in specially for him a number of times. 262 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:10,920 I've heard people say, Oh, we don't include unpublished sources in our in our systematic reviews because 263 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,340 it hasn't been published in a journal and therefore is not peer reviewed. 264 00:27:16,410 --> 00:27:21,420 Well, you know, I mean, there are advantages to peer review if it's done well. 265 00:27:21,450 --> 00:27:27,750 But peer review usually involves two or three people who have their own axe to grind and their own areas of ignorance. 266 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:33,690 And on a good day, you might get some helpful comments and they might improve the work. 267 00:27:33,930 --> 00:27:41,750 But peer review is not the answer to everything. And it certainly, in my view, is not a reason to discount using unpublished sources. 268 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:49,200 But you hear it all the time. People say, I'm not going to use any of these unpublished sources because they have not been subjected to peer review. 269 00:27:49,950 --> 00:27:55,079 They say that trials registries have no usable content for systematic reviews, for example, no results. 270 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,010 And I've just shown you I think it was 31 and a half thousand from just one resource. 271 00:27:59,460 --> 00:28:05,670 Researchers have no access to clinical study reports. Well, if Tom hasn't made that clear today, he will have done by the end of tomorrow. 272 00:28:06,330 --> 00:28:11,340 I don't know whether he's going to get you all to register on the EMR, but I will. 273 00:28:12,090 --> 00:28:20,490 There you go then. Okay. Again, I'm not saying that's a perfect world, but, you know, it's better than it was five or ten years ago. 274 00:28:20,790 --> 00:28:26,160 And then people say, oh, well, regulatory data, they're all secret. You know, you can't get anything out of the AMA and the FDA. 275 00:28:26,340 --> 00:28:30,010 Well, of course you can. And that's improving all the time. 276 00:28:30,900 --> 00:28:39,780 So in summary, I wanted to say that all relevant data are important in evidence syntheses irrespective of their source. 277 00:28:40,230 --> 00:28:44,850 And these data may be derived from published sources such as journal, articles, books, 278 00:28:44,850 --> 00:28:52,650 etc. either published literature or they may be derived from dissertations, theses and reports, great literature. 279 00:28:53,160 --> 00:29:01,470 They may be derived from unpublished sources, for example, trials, registers, clinical study reports and regulatory agency documents. 280 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:07,500 And all data sources, in my view, have a role to play in evidence synthesis. 281 00:29:08,100 --> 00:29:15,810 Some data sources may be more prone to bias than others, and all eligible studies and their data must be assessed for bias. 282 00:29:16,770 --> 00:29:22,860 So returning to the title of today's talk, the shifting evidence paradigm from literature to data. 283 00:29:23,370 --> 00:29:27,660 Is there a shifting evidence paradigm from literature to data? 284 00:29:28,290 --> 00:29:33,060 Well, I think there is, but not yet a paradigm shift. 285 00:29:33,870 --> 00:29:39,210 As Tom says, I'm very, very precise. But the thing is, you can be part of this shift. 286 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:45,780 You can when you're doing your systematic reviews back in the workplace, which I assume many of you will be wanting to do, 287 00:29:45,780 --> 00:29:53,370 which is why you're on this course and when you're going to your librarian and you're asking for support in not literature searching, 288 00:29:53,370 --> 00:29:57,540 I hope, but identifying studies, you can be more demanding. 289 00:29:57,540 --> 00:30:04,620 You can say to your librarian, I'd like some help in identifying studies for this systematic review. 290 00:30:04,890 --> 00:30:09,420 And if they say, Oh, yes, I'll do you a Medline search, you can say, okay, that would be very nice. 291 00:30:09,420 --> 00:30:14,970 Thank you. And what else do you propose? And then if they say, Oh, well, no, I'm sure that'll be enough, then you can say, Well, actually. 292 00:30:15,050 --> 00:30:18,920 I'm also interested in unpublished studies. I'm also interested in unpublished data. 293 00:30:19,190 --> 00:30:24,770 And can you give me some hints and tips on this and this? So I think you have a role to play in this to.