1 00:00:08,620 --> 00:00:17,380 Western Harris is a Ph.D. student at the University of California and a doctoral research affiliates to Kathmandu University said What of studies? 2 00:00:17,380 --> 00:00:27,350 We all know it's probably the U.S. Institute. He's also a Yogen and a translator in the tradition of Hindu Tibetan Buddhism and also goes by is 3 00:00:27,350 --> 00:00:34,280 Tibetan name singer Diana West and studied art history at the National Museum Institute in New Delhi, 4 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:45,110 India. Buddhist studies have done university and received a degree in social cultural anthropology from the University of California, Davis. 5 00:00:45,110 --> 00:00:48,320 This is a case, and research combines textual art, 6 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:57,520 historical and field site mythologies and examines life stories of the tantric Buddhist attempt known as the RUPA. 7 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:06,110 It's not only revealed to be in touch with us, but also not an Orthodox Hindu traditions. 8 00:01:06,110 --> 00:01:11,820 Analysing the life stories and artistic representations in Tibetan and Sanskrit, tantric, 9 00:01:11,820 --> 00:01:20,580 Buddhist and other sources from South India, Nepal and Tibet, and argues that hagiography is a valuable geography, 10 00:01:20,580 --> 00:01:25,590 regardless of the relative historicity of the actual narrative, 11 00:01:25,590 --> 00:01:32,910 and will provide a rare sort of window into the evolution and reformulation of Buddhist practises. 12 00:01:32,910 --> 00:01:38,770 And a sceptic community's western welcome. 13 00:01:38,770 --> 00:01:47,740 Thank you, thank you. It's nice to nice to be here. Let's see if I can live up to that wonderful introduction, huh? 14 00:01:47,740 --> 00:01:53,800 Here we go. So as many of you are probably familiar with the figure of Yoruba, but just quickly, 15 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:59,410 let's sort of go over some of the main key points here so we can all get acquainted with the figure, right? 16 00:01:59,410 --> 00:02:06,130 So the group is enumerated amongst the list of eighty four sisters in both Buddhist and non Buddhist lists. 17 00:02:06,130 --> 00:02:11,710 We have a number of excellent works attributed to the RUPA or Viru buzz. 18 00:02:11,710 --> 00:02:18,610 Of course, we have the emirate city, which Mallinson caused the hot yoga as tantric Buddhist source text. 19 00:02:18,610 --> 00:02:27,130 We also have a number of works in the 10 jaw Virgilio each in the muster related also rock the armoury, the armoury, the city staff, some doors. 20 00:02:27,130 --> 00:02:36,490 And how do you get these? We also have some Yoruba related work in the Sarkin Lamere tradition. 21 00:02:36,490 --> 00:02:43,510 Also some visionary works of such an sort of having visions of Yoruba and writing based on that. 22 00:02:43,510 --> 00:02:49,540 And of course, in Sanskrit, we also have a number of excellent works other than just the Amruta City. 23 00:02:49,540 --> 00:02:59,140 I found some Chinamasa done also here in Nepal. In National Archives, there's the praise of Hugo Retarder attributed to a EuropaCorp as well. 24 00:02:59,140 --> 00:03:04,960 We'll get into sort of the question or the issue of the group of Yorubas later. 25 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:13,900 So this roopa is an enigmatic crossover figure revered by Buddhists, shavers, doctors, vice and others, the monocle Hindus sort of alike. 26 00:03:13,900 --> 00:03:18,680 He's featured in numerous novels, not the lists, which are lists of the nine, 27 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:23,690 not those which are sort of credited as being the founders of the not sect. 28 00:03:23,690 --> 00:03:32,110 Though, as we will see later, exactly what constitutes the not sect or a knock in the first place is kind of fluid and difficult to pin down, 29 00:03:32,110 --> 00:03:39,340 and sort of many of his hagiography is even Tibetan and Buddhist hagiography sort of play on this sectarian ambiguity. 30 00:03:39,340 --> 00:03:51,220 So he's and, you know, various stories he's said or positioned as the chief of 500 Hindu sadhus, and he holds a pregnant part of permit. 31 00:03:51,220 --> 00:03:56,830 The text either in this in his robes or in his hair, so that when all the other soldiers are battling the shiva, 32 00:03:56,830 --> 00:04:02,920 he can, of course, bow to the perimeter in other geographies. 33 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:07,630 The local people wonder, Is he a Buddhist? Is he a Brahmin? Is yeshiva himself? 34 00:04:07,630 --> 00:04:14,680 Who knows? And in and at least one version he claims to actually be the elder brother of Mahadev himself. 35 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:20,650 So there's this kind of interesting sectarian ambiguity in the texts, in the hagiography, as I should say. 36 00:04:20,650 --> 00:04:28,690 One last interesting note is that a number of the deer, these deer, the lineages with whom Europe is associated, 37 00:04:28,690 --> 00:04:36,010 namely China, must Xstrata or Hugo to Tara, to Mongolia or to Marathi, as well as Kali. 38 00:04:36,010 --> 00:04:41,860 Whether you want to take that as McCawley or Crow Kali, they're both lineages are associated with Europa. 39 00:04:41,860 --> 00:04:48,790 All four of those goddesses later appear in the Shiva Shop, the collection of Ducharme videos. 40 00:04:48,790 --> 00:04:58,990 So whether or not, of course, the similarity in name is actually proof of being the exactly the same deity as is a separate question. 41 00:04:58,990 --> 00:05:08,170 If you're interested in that, I would refer you to Shin's 2018 work on the top on the history of the dust on my videos. 42 00:05:08,170 --> 00:05:11,980 However, having given this sort of historical introduction here, 43 00:05:11,980 --> 00:05:17,980 I'm actually not all that interested in the question of a historical view Rupa or V Lupus. 44 00:05:17,980 --> 00:05:23,710 Rather, I'm more interested in the question of Yoruba or voodoo pox as a literary character, 45 00:05:23,710 --> 00:05:33,340 particularly following Appleton Appleton's actual application of black and Jean's notion of the four features of the latter character. 46 00:05:33,340 --> 00:05:40,060 These four features are stability that is recognisability of a character, despite appearing in different contexts, 47 00:05:40,060 --> 00:05:49,390 flexibility that is the adaptability of the character to local concerns of different communities at different points in time, interjects duality. 48 00:05:49,390 --> 00:05:55,000 That is, the use of character themes and motifs from other texts related to that same character and the 49 00:05:55,000 --> 00:06:00,460 demand stability that is the character's ability to demonstrate particular ideas or positions, 50 00:06:00,460 --> 00:06:03,820 whether they be theological, social, hierarchical, ethical, polemical, 51 00:06:03,820 --> 00:06:10,390 etc. The fourth category there is actually really interesting and a major point of my dissertation. 52 00:06:10,390 --> 00:06:15,490 However, in the space of time that we have here, I might not really be able to dive into that. 53 00:06:15,490 --> 00:06:18,460 So we'll really be looking at the group as stability, 54 00:06:18,460 --> 00:06:26,620 flexibility and intellectuality between Tibetan, Buddhist and South Asian and non Buddhist sources. 55 00:06:26,620 --> 00:06:31,240 So my main thesis here? Oh, and sorry, I should say one thing on time. 56 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:38,400 Please do let me know I will try to be good about about trying to stick to the stick to the schedule, but I get excited. 57 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:43,750 Sometimes and ramble song, so please, please keep me on time. 58 00:06:43,750 --> 00:06:52,450 OK. So my main thesis here tonight or today is that based on the black and white or 59 00:06:52,450 --> 00:06:56,920 black Indians notions of the notion of the four features of literary character, 60 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:02,410 I'm going to argue that the Yoruba of the Tibetan hagiographic tradition and the voodoo paksha or 61 00:07:02,410 --> 00:07:07,660 voodoo pox are not of the South Asian narrative tradition are indeed the exact same character. 62 00:07:07,660 --> 00:07:15,970 They sort of constitute a shared cross into a sectarian narrative corpus stretching from South India to Tibet and beyond, 63 00:07:15,970 --> 00:07:22,690 with shared plot points, themes, motifs, tropes, etc., as well as shared iconographic vocabulary. 64 00:07:22,690 --> 00:07:29,080 That said, the iconographic and visual element is extremely important to the Rupert tradition, as well as to my dissertation. 65 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:35,350 However, again, for the sake of time, we might not be able to get it into that, but just a sort of reference that a little bit. 66 00:07:35,350 --> 00:07:41,380 I've tried to include some nice images just to sort of get the the whole sensory experience. 67 00:07:41,380 --> 00:07:47,170 Now, this thesis might sort of be uncontroversial to some folks in yoga studies. 68 00:07:47,170 --> 00:07:50,500 For instance, Mallinson as recently in Twenty Nineteen, 69 00:07:50,500 --> 00:07:57,310 I think it was written Caliban China and the cocaine and sort of it's quite clearly shows that, 70 00:07:57,310 --> 00:08:07,540 but briefly shows that view on postures sort of share a literary tradition, but within within Tibetan studies more broadly, 71 00:08:07,540 --> 00:08:13,000 I am frequently asked, Yeah, but how do you know, how can we be sure that Mallinson is correct? 72 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:19,030 How can we be sure that we grew up on Veeru, just last few Pakistan that are indeed the same character? 73 00:08:19,030 --> 00:08:23,620 And so tonight I want to sort of settle that once and for all. 74 00:08:23,620 --> 00:08:33,820 Secondarily, that's my sort of secondary thesis or objectives here is that I would like to present the Yoruba overview 75 00:08:33,820 --> 00:08:40,510 to Paksha as a case study revealing the vast Indo-Tibetan Cross-sectarian dialogic nature of the SED, 76 00:08:40,510 --> 00:08:42,550 the narrative corpus. 77 00:08:42,550 --> 00:08:52,570 I want to present to the Indo-Tibetan, said the corpus as a more accommodating alternative to Munoz's notion of the three fold not canon, 78 00:08:52,570 --> 00:08:59,440 as many of the texts about so-called not sitter's are not strictly written by or even for nots. 79 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,830 However, that notion of knighthood may be defined. 80 00:09:02,830 --> 00:09:10,510 I would also like to address the under appreciation of Tibetan and Buddhist sources and not the yoga studies sort of more broadly. 81 00:09:10,510 --> 00:09:17,650 I would like to bring to light a number of previously unrecognised and or understudied South Asian Viru Paksha 82 00:09:17,650 --> 00:09:27,430 narratives in in that endeavour will add Tomlinson's 2019 list of known non Buddhist texts that mention Yoruba. 83 00:09:27,430 --> 00:09:31,390 And finally, I'd like to shed new light on the we'll sort of get to this at the end, 84 00:09:31,390 --> 00:09:41,140 hopefully shed new light on enduring debates about the sharing sort of substratum versus borrowing models of Buddhist driver exchange. 85 00:09:41,140 --> 00:09:45,970 So it being that my thesis is that Veerappa is voodoo posture to sort of before we 86 00:09:45,970 --> 00:09:49,570 get into the nitty gritty of the textual stuff just to come right out with it. 87 00:09:49,570 --> 00:09:57,400 I know of at least two places in which the Yoruba of Tibetan lore is explicitly associated with the name Voodoo Paksha. 88 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:02,260 Both are associated with post 14th century Indian Buddhists who journey to Tibet. 89 00:10:02,260 --> 00:10:07,450 So we have in sorry put there's three Viru Pacha Venkata. 90 00:10:07,450 --> 00:10:13,850 The diacritics here are based on the Tibetan transcription of the title, so they might be a little bit interesting. 91 00:10:13,850 --> 00:10:19,060 Sanskrit is out there, a.k.a. the Paladin Bureau, up a number of Paapa. 92 00:10:19,060 --> 00:10:23,740 And so in this case, in the beginning of the text where it describes, you know, in Indian, 93 00:10:23,740 --> 00:10:29,710 in Indian language, the text as such and in Tibetan language, the text is such here in the titles themselves. 94 00:10:29,710 --> 00:10:37,990 We see in one, we have feudal paksha and in the other one we have beer wapa, which is a common Tibetan way of transcribing the name of Yoruba. 95 00:10:37,990 --> 00:10:42,760 Another of another such text is one Rattner's Marmo, badesh. 96 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,630 And so we have a little screenshot of that text here. 97 00:10:46,630 --> 00:10:57,610 This is an interesting text that seems to be a sort of Tibetan Landray esque lineage that sort of enters back into the Indian fold through Van Rutina. 98 00:10:57,610 --> 00:11:04,630 And so we have a number of interesting transcriptions of Tibetan names or translations of Tibetan names into Sanskrit. 99 00:11:04,630 --> 00:11:10,620 But here, of course, we have the Yoruba of the Landray tradition being written as we do paksha. 100 00:11:10,620 --> 00:11:18,510 But to get more into the nitty gritty of it, I'd like to introduce the Tibetan narrative that will be looking at tonight. 101 00:11:18,510 --> 00:11:28,200 So we have, of course, a bias that does to curiosity, said the perfidy, which of course, the tales of the 84 cities also known as the Top Gear. 102 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:40,020 True, Tashi lo que. We also have Padma Droops, dodgy elbows and by Yeltsin sort of beer swapping logos or stories histories of the of of Yoruba. 103 00:11:40,020 --> 00:11:47,820 These text, these two texts, there are some very important differences between them, so I don't want to gloss over that. 104 00:11:47,820 --> 00:11:54,330 However, tonight, for the sake of sort of broad stroke narrative, logical comparisons, they're very similar. 105 00:11:54,330 --> 00:11:57,420 And so I'm sort of putting them combining them together. 106 00:11:57,420 --> 00:12:03,330 But again, there are some important differences that I do want to sort of acknowledge at first. 107 00:12:03,330 --> 00:12:07,110 We also have the text that I just mentioned that it started Petra's Shreve, 108 00:12:07,110 --> 00:12:16,020 the Tupac Shakur victor that is the Portland bureau up in number Harper, the complete liberation or the story of the liberation of Sri Yoruba. 109 00:12:16,020 --> 00:12:17,690 And then, of course, we have girls. 110 00:12:17,690 --> 00:12:24,630 It's always Blue Angels or Adaptor Nympho and Tara, not those seven transmission lineages or the cover up doing them. 111 00:12:24,630 --> 00:12:32,370 Then this is, of course, not an exhaustive list of all of the Tibetan texts that contain mention or narratives about Yoruba. 112 00:12:32,370 --> 00:12:36,630 But these are some of the main ones that I'd like to touch on here. 113 00:12:36,630 --> 00:12:43,200 So looking at the tales of the eighty four cities, that is the Choctaw acides, these two the Prophet Dean. 114 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:48,360 So in this story, Rupa is a monk at Soma Puri. 115 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:55,920 He throws away his rosary in discouragement at not having signs of of of accomplishment. 116 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:00,960 A vision of Baguio Guinea Re inspires him to take back up his practise. 117 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:07,500 We also have a important theme that we're going to see, especially when we get into some of the South Asian texts. 118 00:13:07,500 --> 00:13:17,850 This theme of bird eating, of eating, of birds. We also have the expulsion motif right that he's this sort of despised figure that gets expelled, 119 00:13:17,850 --> 00:13:21,750 only to then be vindicated and revealed to be a great master. 120 00:13:21,750 --> 00:13:29,130 We have the scene in which he reverses or splits the Ganga so that he can walk across sort of saying, Oh, I'm this hideous, wretched one. 121 00:13:29,130 --> 00:13:34,980 Like, you know, just you don't want your waters to touch me. So splits the Ganga and walks across. 122 00:13:34,980 --> 00:13:43,380 And we have, of course, the famous tavern scene in which he stops the Sun with the famous gesture in order to continue drinking alcohol, 123 00:13:43,380 --> 00:13:49,830 only to eventually sort of force the king to pay his bar tab in order to release The Sun. 124 00:13:49,830 --> 00:13:57,330 We have the theme of him breaking the linga in this case, in this particular text that's described as being in the land of Indra. 125 00:13:57,330 --> 00:14:00,750 That's an important point that we'll see also come up in one of the South Asian 126 00:14:00,750 --> 00:14:06,000 texts we'll get into later this notion of land of Indra or Indra direction. 127 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:10,260 This is the text in which he identifies himself as Madiba's older brother, right? 128 00:14:10,260 --> 00:14:17,910 He says that in what tradition does the elder brother bow to the younger brother when King is trying to force him to bow to shiva? 129 00:14:17,910 --> 00:14:24,660 And of course, he goes on to tame some demons. So you'll notice that as we go through this, a number of these words are in bold. 130 00:14:24,660 --> 00:14:30,930 Some of these bold words are some of the key themes and motifs as we compare these different stories that I 131 00:14:30,930 --> 00:14:37,860 really want to draw attention to so that you can see how they sort of appear in all of these different text. 132 00:14:37,860 --> 00:14:45,030 Now in Tropic Yeltsin and Podmore Juba's Bureau Up, Look, you are the Islamic Gokongwei Lagoon. 133 00:14:45,030 --> 00:14:47,640 We have Europe as a monk at Nalanda. 134 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:54,510 In this case, instead of Soma Puri again, he throws away his rosary in it, being discouraged that no signs of accomplishment. 135 00:14:54,510 --> 00:14:57,390 This time, he has a vision of nitrosamine interesting. 136 00:14:57,390 --> 00:15:03,000 This is where the first place where I've seen the introduction of my right and the relationship with the Hippodrome mandala, 137 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:08,130 which of course, is so important to the soccer tradition and their Landray, of course. 138 00:15:08,130 --> 00:15:10,830 Then we have the expulsion motif he's kicked out. 139 00:15:10,830 --> 00:15:18,100 In this case, we really see this emphasis on sexuality and the presence of women again, reverses the Gunga. 140 00:15:18,100 --> 00:15:25,980 This is the story in which we get this question Oh, is he a Brahmin? Is he a Buddhist or is he Mahadev himself? 141 00:15:25,980 --> 00:15:31,950 Again, we see bird eating. He's eating birds and bugs along the way, and everybody's like, Oh, you're so gross. 142 00:15:31,950 --> 00:15:33,960 And he's like. And then he brings them back to life. 143 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:40,350 And he says, You know, Oh, if I eat the bugs and birds, you call me gross, and if I bring them back to life, you call me gross. 144 00:15:40,350 --> 00:15:50,460 So you know, what can I do? We also have the famous tavern scene again, this drinking alcohol and stops the sun has the King Pays Bar tab. 145 00:15:50,460 --> 00:15:53,520 We also have the breaking of the Lingam scene. 146 00:15:53,520 --> 00:16:00,900 In this case, this is the first Tibetan sauce in which that site is explicitly identified with Beamish Worry and Troxler drama. 147 00:16:00,900 --> 00:16:06,900 This is also an important ID when we start looking at some South Asian texts. 148 00:16:06,900 --> 00:16:10,170 We see them taming kings, demons and blood. 149 00:16:10,170 --> 00:16:16,510 Fighters, there's also this interesting look, a test for a connexion with which will come out in the South Asian text as well. 150 00:16:16,510 --> 00:16:20,760 I'll look at just where I sort of says, you know, like, Oh, don't be so harsh in the way that you tame beings. 151 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,540 And he says, OK, let me just go to some poetry and tape, and I'm sorry. 152 00:16:24,540 --> 00:16:31,080 Samantha in Saurashtra and tame one one last being in the sort of harsh, hard knock way. 153 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:38,790 And then and then I'll be a I'll be sort of peaceful and nice, and we see him dissolving into a stone image at Soma. 154 00:16:38,790 --> 00:16:42,330 Not the eye. I believe it's at Soma, not the. 155 00:16:42,330 --> 00:16:45,120 But at the end he dissolves into a stone image. All of these. 156 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:53,610 These last points will come out in a number of South Asian texts, particularly this one from Nepal, that I have found in a sari. 157 00:16:53,610 --> 00:16:57,030 Boutrous Review Rapture View Qatar. 158 00:16:57,030 --> 00:17:05,910 We see the introduction of a very, very, very important set of motifs that sort of define actually many of the South Asian texts. 159 00:17:05,910 --> 00:17:10,650 And this is this introduction of the idea of the Great Sin, the Maha Pop, 160 00:17:10,650 --> 00:17:16,350 particularly incest in a number of of the South Asian texts, as well as some of the Tibetans. 161 00:17:16,350 --> 00:17:26,190 There's this notion that Europe was born and and is prophesied to commit these great sins, including maternal incest being one of the main one. 162 00:17:26,190 --> 00:17:33,600 Also, alcohol, cow killing Brahman aside as well. I also would like to sort of make a shout out here to silks. 163 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:41,250 Twenty five work on incest in Buddhist in the Buddhist literary tradition, which has been a huge help in my research. 164 00:17:41,250 --> 00:17:49,140 However, I can't really dive deep into the incest motive and the connexion with the Mahadev and Dharma Rucci incest narratives as I would like to, 165 00:17:49,140 --> 00:17:53,100 but I would at least like to sort of make an aside there. 166 00:17:53,100 --> 00:18:03,030 So having this, having committed maternal incest and these other horrible, horrible crimes, he seeks a guru in order to cleanse his sense. 167 00:18:03,030 --> 00:18:11,340 And in this case, in this case, he finds Jalandhar and another set of Buddhists, or Siddall, enumerated in Buddhist lists. 168 00:18:11,340 --> 00:18:18,690 That is also associated with the not tradition. And he finds Stalin in a place that's written in the Tibetan text as Hundley's. 169 00:18:18,690 --> 00:18:25,440 Now remember this this name of this site. This is important for one of the South Asian texts that we'll look at later. 170 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:30,240 Donald Dhara gives him instruction on Virgilio Geeni as Chinamasa again. 171 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:35,550 Here we have some connexion with extant texts associate with Europe and China Master. 172 00:18:35,550 --> 00:18:39,240 He throws away his rosary discouraged island diary inspires him. 173 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:43,170 He has a vision of androgyny, tamed kings and blood sacrifices. 174 00:18:43,170 --> 00:18:45,810 And of course, we have the contextual connexion again. 175 00:18:45,810 --> 00:18:52,080 So here, although we see the introduction of this important incest motif that after the sort of 14th century, 176 00:18:52,080 --> 00:19:01,140 I believe it is become so defining for the. But we also see important points that hearken back to some of the 12th century Tibet. 177 00:19:01,140 --> 00:19:06,420 The 12th century sources like Abyei thought does drop a Yeltsin's and pockmarked troopers. 178 00:19:06,420 --> 00:19:15,450 That is like the throwing of the rosary that becoming discouraged, etc. in in the Torah, not this text. 179 00:19:15,450 --> 00:19:24,510 Again, we have the similar sort of incest narrative, but split between the Yoruba and Karlovy Yoruba, which is supposedly a disciple of Yoruba. 180 00:19:24,510 --> 00:19:35,070 So we see many of the same exact motifs between the 12th century and then the 14th century texts, but split between the rupiah and all of Yoruba. 181 00:19:35,070 --> 00:19:38,040 I'm going to go a little bit quicker here so we can get through all the content. 182 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:44,040 And finally, in the last Tibetan texts that we're going to look at here, that is the blue channels. 183 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:51,060 We see this interesting story about an Arab party or an ala putra, so an associate with the Mogga Pasha lineage above. 184 00:19:51,060 --> 00:19:57,540 Look where we see this great sin motif. He accidentally killed or accidentally kills his mother meditates on a mogul. 185 00:19:57,540 --> 00:20:01,650 Pasha drops his rosary and discouragement. A visionary inspires him. 186 00:20:01,650 --> 00:20:05,460 And this figure is said to go on to become a guru of Yoruba. 187 00:20:05,460 --> 00:20:13,160 So we have similar kind of narratives being associated, both with a supposed guru of Yoruba as well as a disciple of the Yoruba. 188 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:19,470 A little aside, voodoo parka and error are both. Both appear in the poly canon as names of snakes. 189 00:20:19,470 --> 00:20:27,520 So there. Is that a coincidence or is there some association or mis naming in the blue annals of aeropuerto or ala Patras, 190 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:31,170 as Voodoo said, sort of getting that mixed up? I don't know. 191 00:20:31,170 --> 00:20:40,260 Now, some of the geographical sites mentioned in the in the Tibetan texts are important because we see at these exact same sites, 192 00:20:40,260 --> 00:20:49,020 actually, we see some or many of these sites are the precise sites where we see narratives being produced about Voodoo Paksha. 193 00:20:49,020 --> 00:20:54,630 So we have sites like Sri Silom, Maharashtra, Odisha, Totally or Kadry and the Konkan. 194 00:20:54,630 --> 00:21:01,290 So we had Condola in one text, Tibetan texts, we had Konkona and another Tibetan text and of course, cuddly. 195 00:21:01,290 --> 00:21:06,120 And the Konkan are important sites of of EuropaCorp, the narrative production. 196 00:21:06,120 --> 00:21:10,050 So from our rostro, we have these two monobob text, the Leelah. 197 00:21:10,050 --> 00:21:15,390 A treaty on the future part now we don't see the incest motif in this text, but we see this. 198 00:21:15,390 --> 00:21:20,850 He is said to be a great teacher of the knot pond. We see him destroying the Lingam at Drops drama. 199 00:21:20,850 --> 00:21:26,490 He meets Go Rocks on his way to Solman North and South Rostro, which are exactly like in the Tibetan narratives. 200 00:21:26,490 --> 00:21:33,510 There's the scene of this competition with Gau Raksha, where a goat upshaws body is hit with a sword, 201 00:21:33,510 --> 00:21:39,300 but the sword is sort of passes through it, whereas when your partner's body is hit with a sword, it's hard. 202 00:21:39,300 --> 00:21:45,420 And there's this association between this kind of pun on the Vajra Chi and the Bhadra or leave you, Rupert, 203 00:21:45,420 --> 00:21:54,570 coming from the blood-red tradition and his body being hard whereas got up knots sort of body is not hard and is said to be better. 204 00:21:54,570 --> 00:21:59,400 And so because of this scene, God actually initiates him under the name a Dundee, 205 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:09,090 not which Dundee meaning firms so meaning like, oh, after being initiated by Gracia, he's no longer firm in that inferior way. 206 00:22:09,090 --> 00:22:14,790 But this could also be a sort of double entendre, as Dundee can mean hardy or even sexually aroused. 207 00:22:14,790 --> 00:22:23,190 So Mallinson has pointed to this Oli Amarula connexion also maybe referring not just to the Vajra and Shiva associations, 208 00:22:23,190 --> 00:22:26,880 but also the celibate and non celibate version. 209 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:34,830 He tames kings, et cetera, in the in another South Asian text, this one from Sri Shalem. 210 00:22:34,830 --> 00:22:41,400 That is the nub, not the true trauma. He is counted amongst one of not those the nine knots he's born in Maharashtra. 211 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:46,110 He eats a bird's heart that grant sisterhood. Here's that bird eating motif again. 212 00:22:46,110 --> 00:22:48,780 Heavenly Voice confirms his life story to Mina. 213 00:22:48,780 --> 00:22:56,730 Nathan explains that in a previous life, the departure was a Brahman that committed incest and drowned himself in the Ganga to cleanse his sins. 214 00:22:56,730 --> 00:23:01,470 So here we see this incest motif again, and he becomes a disciple of Europa. 215 00:23:01,470 --> 00:23:07,950 Also, this text directly attributes attack is the says. 216 00:23:07,950 --> 00:23:13,470 The bureau publishes the author of a text called the Amrita Canyon City, which assembly as the emirate. 217 00:23:13,470 --> 00:23:23,250 The city. Now amongst the new text that I would like to bring to the fore tonight that is not listed on Mallinson list is the correct. 218 00:23:23,250 --> 00:23:29,160 Some had thought this is a Odia or old audio text found published in Bunzel. 219 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:36,390 Siddharth Mohan. These work the the not literature and tradition of Odisha. 220 00:23:36,390 --> 00:23:41,580 So in this case, the tale is narrated by Charleine Dara a.k.a Hardy PA. 221 00:23:41,580 --> 00:23:47,580 It's prophesied that Paksha will commit these great sins, and it goes on to be true. 222 00:23:47,580 --> 00:23:54,450 So in order to this year, in order to cleanse it. Since he procrastinate, Shiva Shiva sends them to the mountains of Nepal to meet Guereca, 223 00:23:54,450 --> 00:24:00,780 who initiates him with the name of Guru Paksha because he's said to be born from a Brahmin mother and a Sugiura father. 224 00:24:00,780 --> 00:24:06,480 He has a god who travels all around and has a vision of the Goddess Hen Geula or 225 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:11,610 Ganguly Mata and receive the Brahma Thunder and a Vadra hat from Brahma and Indra. 226 00:24:11,610 --> 00:24:15,720 This notion of this hat is kind of interesting and also comes up in time, 227 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:22,350 not this seven transmission lineage tax this idea that he has a hat or a budget hobby. 228 00:24:22,350 --> 00:24:26,280 I'm not exactly sure, but it sort of seems to be a common theme. 229 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:30,660 He's told that he will break idols merely by bowing to them again. 230 00:24:30,660 --> 00:24:37,440 This seems to be a similar similarity with this idea of breaking the Lingam at Drops Rama by prostrating. 231 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:45,990 We have this extensive travel motif, and many of the places that he's set to visit are again are also similar to those in other Tibetan versions. 232 00:24:45,990 --> 00:24:52,750 And importantly, he rejoins Guereca and McKendry in Kudla, etc. This is again that same place. 233 00:24:52,750 --> 00:24:58,770 Come believe that we saw or Konkona in the Tibetan texts, the Brahmins rebuke and expel him from charge. 234 00:24:58,770 --> 00:25:04,710 Poor for drinking alcohol. Again, this alcohol drinking motif. And he reverses a river again instead of the Ganga. 235 00:25:04,710 --> 00:25:08,430 This time we have the biotronik, which is in Odisha. I would. 236 00:25:08,430 --> 00:25:12,060 I would like to say that these Odia texts and audio letter in general, 237 00:25:12,060 --> 00:25:18,720 general requires or demands or warrants much, much more attention within South Asian studies. 238 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:26,340 So please, please, please study audio. Now, another text that I would bet is not on mountain. 239 00:25:26,340 --> 00:25:34,920 Since lists of known non Buddhist group or few reports of text is a number of views out of Europe out of proportion narratives from Nepal. 240 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:42,450 These ones are quite striking because they bear a lot of resemblance to the tradition that we see in the Tibetan version with this former puri thing. 241 00:25:42,450 --> 00:25:47,190 So I've even had Tibetans here in Nepal say that actually the place where the Yoruba 242 00:25:47,190 --> 00:25:51,810 broke the lingam and then dissolves into a dissolves into a stone image is actually not. 243 00:25:51,810 --> 00:25:54,990 It's so monotonous or Rashtra, but it's actually here at Pottery Party. 244 00:25:54,990 --> 00:25:59,770 Not so in these and these Nepali versions, which are contained in a number of bomb. 245 00:25:59,770 --> 00:26:09,920 Shoval is also a text called the voodoo satire the yatra, which attributes itself to him about the scandal Parana, as well as a noir text. 246 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:16,130 Called the Bureau of Toxic Qatar similar to the Bureau of De-clutter that we saw from Sri Putra. 247 00:26:16,130 --> 00:26:21,950 So in this again, we have this prophecy that he will create it, commit great sin, including incest, which he does. 248 00:26:21,950 --> 00:26:26,630 He first published Shiva for expiation, but Sheba's advice nearly kills him. 249 00:26:26,630 --> 00:26:34,700 So he then goes on to find a monk or the Buddha or uBlock, etc. in different versions who tells him to recite a mantra until this rosary breaks. 250 00:26:34,700 --> 00:26:41,600 He does so, but multiple times throws his rosary down in discouragement because he's not having signs of accomplishment. 251 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:46,310 But each time a visionary inspires him again, very akin to the Tibetan stories. 252 00:26:46,310 --> 00:26:50,060 Finally, he achieved city cities, and with his newfound powers, 253 00:26:50,060 --> 00:26:56,090 he grows around breaking Lin gums all over the place in retaliation for the bad advice that he received from Shiva. 254 00:26:56,090 --> 00:27:00,500 Again, the linga breaking motif he goes to break the linga at Posture Party, 255 00:27:00,500 --> 00:27:06,260 not but shiva Sikhs Obligatoires Protection of Look, etc. gives Shiva his five Buddha crown. 256 00:27:06,260 --> 00:27:10,850 And when reporting that Shiva is reporting, that puts on the crown. When Roopa gets there, 257 00:27:10,850 --> 00:27:18,980 the instead of sitting shiva as Shiva Veerappa sees him as uBlock Touch for it because he's wearing a blue shorts crown and worships him in that. 258 00:27:18,980 --> 00:27:25,500 I would like to say that actually the story of of view Rupa the scaring shiva into taking refuge in uBlock, 259 00:27:25,500 --> 00:27:35,090 etc. is the source of a number of religious holidays and festivals here in Kathmandu, including the Muk, Me and the local Mahatir. 260 00:27:35,090 --> 00:27:39,050 Look at me, Mahajan, Sari Nehwal speakers. I'm butchering that. 261 00:27:39,050 --> 00:27:42,920 And here he's associated with the UPA shadow brother and a Moga Pasha. 262 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:50,390 I've looked very much like the association with this ala patra figure of being associated with a Mogga Pasha as well. 263 00:27:50,390 --> 00:27:58,160 And finally, in the name in these Nepali versions, he stops the Sun in order to continue worshipping, eating and drinking at Pashtu Party. 264 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,000 So we see a number of similar similar motifs. 265 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:07,010 And finally, he's said to reside or dissolve into a stone image at pottery party. 266 00:28:07,010 --> 00:28:10,940 Not very similar to the story at some asari soma nata. 267 00:28:10,940 --> 00:28:15,140 This image that we have here is actually the Bureau Paksha statue at Posh Party. 268 00:28:15,140 --> 00:28:23,120 Not finally, the last South-Asian text that I'd like to talk about is the three cuddly Manju, not the Mahatma. 269 00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:27,440 So remember all of those references to Billy Connolly and the Konkona? 270 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:35,330 Well, here we have another Viru pop shuttle coming out of the related to the cuddly or Kadry Mandarin, not temple in Mangalore, 271 00:28:35,330 --> 00:28:41,720 which of course, as Mallinson, a number of their scholars have pointed out, was a Buddhist v hara turned Buddhist. 272 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,530 So I turned to not the temple turned Vishnu of a temple. 273 00:28:45,530 --> 00:28:52,370 So in this text, this is sort of the most Orthodox, but a monocle of the of the South Asian voodoo Apotex. 274 00:28:52,370 --> 00:28:55,430 He's counted amongst the nave, not those in this particular text. 275 00:28:55,430 --> 00:29:00,860 He's born a perfect three eyed Brahman, which is in part the poor carried in Maharashtra. 276 00:29:00,860 --> 00:29:09,510 He takes refuge in the great goddess in the form of Carhartt. The poor Ashwari Narada appears and gives a prophecy in this case instead of incest. 277 00:29:09,510 --> 00:29:15,530 But he says that he gives a prophecy that it'll be a little tame people using magical illusions. 278 00:29:15,530 --> 00:29:18,230 He's frequently referred to as the Lord of the Konkan. 279 00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:24,980 I'd like to say an aside, there might be interesting because there's a number of Tamil texts that talk about a figure called the Conqueror Sida, 280 00:29:24,980 --> 00:29:30,620 and this may, of course, be zero Berkshire, but of course, could be a number of other cities associated with the Konkan. 281 00:29:30,620 --> 00:29:37,400 But the fact that in this text he's called the Lord of the Conquered he is the continent could be a hint. 282 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:44,480 There we see the extensive travel motif he goes to three Silom him about Kalinga, the land in the Indra direction, 283 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,500 which is a similar motif from the Tibetan texts going in in the direction of Indra, 284 00:29:48,500 --> 00:29:56,600 Joxer, Rama country, etc. He carries a skullcap filled with Moon that dirty tames demons, eye drops Arama instead of splitting the linga. 285 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:01,580 Because for a sort of orthodox from Monocle Tech, splitting the linga might be just a little bit too extreme. 286 00:30:01,580 --> 00:30:06,290 So instead, he rebukes the Brahmins there as not being Brahmin enough for not being correct. 287 00:30:06,290 --> 00:30:11,690 Brahmins This is the sort of the Brahmin double kind of the good Brahmin bad Brahmin situation. 288 00:30:11,690 --> 00:30:17,690 He takes the form of an overdue there and admonishes the Brahmins and causes a cat to recite the Vedas to show that look, 289 00:30:17,690 --> 00:30:21,950 just reciting the Vedas enough isn't enough to, you know, be considered a good Brahmin. 290 00:30:21,950 --> 00:30:24,950 You've got to do all the other, the other good stuff, too. 291 00:30:24,950 --> 00:30:31,910 And there's also this alcohol and women cavorting with women motifs instead of stopping the sun in the sky. 292 00:30:31,910 --> 00:30:34,670 Mallinson, as pointed out the similarity here, 293 00:30:34,670 --> 00:30:43,340 where he grabs the moon in order to use it as a cup to sort of impress a particular lady that he's interested in. 294 00:30:43,340 --> 00:30:54,110 So we can now see, of course, looking at this sort of broaden narrowed to logical comparison that that many of the details from the from the Tibet, 295 00:30:54,110 --> 00:31:02,420 Nepal and across South Asia contain many of the same kinds of scenes, themes, motifs, etc. 296 00:31:02,420 --> 00:31:07,520 So now with that in mind, now that we can say the Yoruba is the POC show, right? 297 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:16,120 At least that's a literary character and that. I want to shift gears and towards the end here and problem with ties, this notion of the not canon. 298 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:23,260 So Munoz presents this idea of the three fold not canon as being being constituted of hot yoga treatises in Sanskrit, 299 00:31:23,260 --> 00:31:27,880 poetry in vernacular languages and Haig geographical narratives. 300 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:35,920 However, recently, as scholars like Jamal Jones, who happens to be one of my advisors shout out to Jamal, 301 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:41,050 he has challenged the idea of what should actually be called not literature, 302 00:31:41,050 --> 00:31:46,210 as many of the narratives about not cities are not written by or for nots. 303 00:31:46,210 --> 00:31:51,490 We have mob on kabobs and arteries in Maharashtra. We have Veera shavers and she style them. 304 00:31:51,490 --> 00:31:54,220 We have so-called about device numbers in Odisha. 305 00:31:54,220 --> 00:32:05,590 We have six months and ismailis across North India and of course, the Buddhas in Nepal and Tibet who are all writing about not or ostensibly not. 306 00:32:05,590 --> 00:32:13,750 So the question of can we really call something and not the text, just because it contains or was written by or written for or mentions? 307 00:32:13,750 --> 00:32:19,510 Not right? It's a little bit more complicated than that. Even though still the above three categories, 308 00:32:19,510 --> 00:32:26,500 the threefold not can in those categories perfectly are perfectly mirrored in the case of Yoruba literature, 309 00:32:26,500 --> 00:32:34,930 in that we have Yoruba texts like them read the city which are and and southerners on duty yoga, which are sort of practise manuals. 310 00:32:34,930 --> 00:32:42,040 We have Doha's and Ghitis in vernacular languages. We also have the number of hagiographic texts that we've looked at. 311 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:51,490 However, the the only issue here is that only a few texts in the Yoruba corpus can really be called knock texts. 312 00:32:51,490 --> 00:32:55,870 So even though it fits the three fold part, the non-canon part is a little bit tricky. 313 00:32:55,870 --> 00:33:02,140 As such, this sectarian model of a not can in risk perpetuating the kinds of habitual under appreciation 314 00:33:02,140 --> 00:33:06,250 of Buddhist and Tibetan sources that has characterised much of the relevant research. 315 00:33:06,250 --> 00:33:13,930 I'm near completion here. I assume we're probably getting close on time problem enticing the not can and just a little bit 316 00:33:13,930 --> 00:33:21,730 further the sectarian parameters determining what and not even is in the first place are fluid, 317 00:33:21,730 --> 00:33:25,660 contested, ever shifting and highly localised region by region. 318 00:33:25,660 --> 00:33:32,380 For instance, there are reports of Buddhist knots or not self-identifying as Buddhists well into the 319 00:33:32,380 --> 00:33:37,450 early period attested in the works of Tibetans like drinking and drinking orange and talks, 320 00:33:37,450 --> 00:33:41,320 talks about Kumba, draw, Tara Nata and others. 321 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:49,300 Unfortunately, that the few Tibet ologist who do discuss such so-called Buddhist knots usually dismiss them outright, 322 00:33:49,300 --> 00:33:55,990 often portraying them as opportunistic charlatans intent on duping ignorant Tibetans. 323 00:33:55,990 --> 00:34:00,350 Even DeMint David Templeman, who's been extremely helpful for my own research. 324 00:34:00,350 --> 00:34:02,500 Who and who has written extensively on late, 325 00:34:02,500 --> 00:34:10,450 but it's not tends to characterise them as these sort of dubious pseudo Buddhists who bring nothing new to the Buddhist fold. 326 00:34:10,450 --> 00:34:17,710 But I argue that the very existence of knots claiming to be Buddhist and producing Buddhist literature that contains 327 00:34:17,710 --> 00:34:24,970 reference and and meditation manuals on Buddhist deities like Buddha Topiwala well into the early modern period, 328 00:34:24,970 --> 00:34:31,990 is in itself definitely, very definitely something new and a novel contribution and and warrants further, 329 00:34:31,990 --> 00:34:37,840 further analysis for a more thorough rebuttal of such dismissals of these Buddhist knots, 330 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:43,900 I would like to refer you to McKeon's to a 2018 book Guardian of a Dying Planet Flame, 331 00:34:43,900 --> 00:34:49,900 which is from where I found the show Putra Viru Viru POCSO Text. 332 00:34:49,900 --> 00:34:54,580 He does a very good job in his introduction of refuting some of these dismissals of. 333 00:34:54,580 --> 00:35:06,670 But it's not so. In contrast to this idea of the fold, not canon, I'd like to end by making the case for the idea of an Indo-Tibetan SED the corpus. 334 00:35:06,670 --> 00:35:16,390 So if many of the stories about not cities were not written by, or for or not, if what constitutes a knot is so utterly fluid in the first place, 335 00:35:16,390 --> 00:35:21,360 and if the concept of a sectarian knot can and risk further perpetuating the underappreciated 336 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:26,830 appreciation a valuable not consider literature outside those imagined sectarian boundaries, 337 00:35:26,830 --> 00:35:30,370 then an alternative category is obvious, then sorely needed. 338 00:35:30,370 --> 00:35:38,710 I propose the model of an Indo-Tibetan SED the corpus by shifting the emphasis away from the sectarian affiliation that is this word not, 339 00:35:38,710 --> 00:35:43,930 and towards the more shared notion of the SED that in this way, such a model, I argue, 340 00:35:43,930 --> 00:35:51,800 is more accommodating of the diverse cross-sectarian and dialogic nature of this literature. 341 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:59,690 I sort of so I sort of started with a call to arms for Tibet apologists to engage more actively with yoga studies. 342 00:35:59,690 --> 00:36:06,140 So what does this whole narrative logical rigamarole have to do with yoga studies that we've really just been talking so much about? 343 00:36:06,140 --> 00:36:13,400 Hagiography is a narrative literature. Well, assessing the place of narrative literature in this sort of sharing substratum versus 344 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:20,240 borrowing debate about Buddhist Hindu exchange and following scholars like Appleton, 345 00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:25,160 there's this idea that narrative literature creates a shared dialogic space. 346 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:29,570 Perhaps we can even call it something like a shared substratum that challenges the 347 00:36:29,570 --> 00:36:34,970 staunchly sectarian basis of strict the strictly of the strict borrowing model. 348 00:36:34,970 --> 00:36:44,930 I also sort of want to investigate how the dialogic nature of narrative literature allows characters and stories to cross sectarian boundaries, 349 00:36:44,930 --> 00:36:54,440 and investigating this helps us to better understand how the practises and ideas associated with those characters in this case, hot yoga do the same. 350 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:58,490 In other words, studying and investigating the way that vroom, 351 00:36:58,490 --> 00:37:03,500 vroom and voodoo popular stories transcend and cross these kind of sectarian boundaries also 352 00:37:03,500 --> 00:37:09,020 shines a light on some of the same ways that that the practises associated with them in this case, 353 00:37:09,020 --> 00:37:17,540 hot yoga, also cross those same boundaries. The place of Yoruba narrative production, as I said before Tibet, Nepal, East India through Silom, 354 00:37:17,540 --> 00:37:24,230 Kadri Mangalore tend to be the same key sites of hot yoga propagation and Buddhist Hindu exchange. 355 00:37:24,230 --> 00:37:46,686 So with that, I would like to start end by saying thank you and open it up to questions.