1 00:00:00,570 --> 00:00:07,860 For the final lecture, I'm going to draw some conclusions about Searle and Turing lost, 2 00:00:07,860 --> 00:00:11,730 the last lecture may have seemed to come down rather more in cell's favour than 3 00:00:11,730 --> 00:00:16,500 Turing's because we were seeing some serious problems with the Turing test. 4 00:00:16,500 --> 00:00:22,590 Today, I'm going to be going somewhat in the other direction, as you'll see. 5 00:00:22,590 --> 00:00:25,920 So a summary of where we are so far on Turing and on. 6 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:35,760 So first of all, Turing's predictions, the predictions that he made for the year 2000 I suggested look pretty plausible. 7 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:46,650 But as a criterion of intelligence, the Turing test looks very dubious if we interpret it generously, which one of his predictions kind of hints at. 8 00:00:46,650 --> 00:00:48,030 Namely, 9 00:00:48,030 --> 00:01:01,710 can it reduce the success of the interrogator to less than or equal to 70 per cent after five minutes of questioning and an average interrogator? 10 00:01:01,710 --> 00:01:07,050 Then the trouble is that chat bots show it. It's an insufficient criterion. 11 00:01:07,050 --> 00:01:11,430 It's too easy to fool the average interrogator for five minutes. 12 00:01:11,430 --> 00:01:15,990 And even if current chat bots don't do that very well. 13 00:01:15,990 --> 00:01:19,590 If A.I. researchers were to put their mind seriously to it, 14 00:01:19,590 --> 00:01:27,180 I think they'd be able to adjust those in such a way as to get over that threshold relatively straightforwardly. 15 00:01:27,180 --> 00:01:31,860 But if, on the other hand, we interpret the criterion of the Turing test more strictly, 16 00:01:31,860 --> 00:01:36,690 then it becomes too demanding because computers give themselves away. 17 00:01:36,690 --> 00:01:49,650 By not following the cultural cues and things like that, it becomes too easy to tell when the response is from a non-human rather than a human. 18 00:01:49,650 --> 00:01:53,800 What about the Chinese room thought experiment of Searle? 19 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,870 Well, first of all, it's wildly implausible in terms of practicality. 20 00:01:57,870 --> 00:02:04,500 And I've suggested that that casts some doubt on the intuitive responses we are inclined to make to it. 21 00:02:04,500 --> 00:02:15,030 We should be at least hesitant about taking a thought experiment that's completely devoid from reality and simply applying our naive intuitions to it. 22 00:02:15,030 --> 00:02:22,200 I'll be saying more on that later. We've noted two main objections the system reply and the robot reply. 23 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:29,880 We noted that the system reply, as Copeland points out, begs the question, but still seems to retain a bit of force. 24 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:37,920 Perhaps intuitive force, at least. We've yet to consider cells reply against the robot. 25 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:48,360 I mean, we've seen it, but we've not discussed it. I ended by suggesting a better test or what I think is a better test than the Turing test, 26 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:52,680 which is the idea of producing an intelligent tutoring system, 27 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:58,020 a system where the intelligence of the computer is revealed, 28 00:02:58,020 --> 00:03:07,230 rather than resorting to the sort of hidden subtlety that is involved in the chat bots with chat bots. 29 00:03:07,230 --> 00:03:12,300 What the chat bot is trying to do is disguise its lack of intelligence with the tutoring system. 30 00:03:12,300 --> 00:03:18,690 The whole idea is to reveal the understanding of the complex web of concepts in, 31 00:03:18,690 --> 00:03:25,830 say, chemistry or whatever it might be in order to present them to the duty. 32 00:03:25,830 --> 00:03:30,480 Now suppose we have a system like that, a computerised tutoring system. 33 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:41,250 It's capable of highly sophisticated information processing in a complex domain, and it's able to convey that to the human with whom it's interacting. 34 00:03:41,250 --> 00:03:52,720 It is responsive to information structures in ways that reflect how human experts would think, and it aims to convey that expertise to the Tutsi. 35 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,670 Now, cells objection to this is going to be exactly the same. 36 00:03:56,670 --> 00:04:00,810 He's going to simply say, Well, the system's processing is merely semantic. 37 00:04:00,810 --> 00:04:11,250 It is a syntactic sorry. It has no genuine semantics, no real understanding of the domain it's thought cannot reach out to the real world. 38 00:04:11,250 --> 00:04:16,350 So even if this system actually is faithful to, 39 00:04:16,350 --> 00:04:23,670 if you like the logical interactions and mathematical interactions and so on between the different concepts in chemistry, 40 00:04:23,670 --> 00:04:32,400 the system itself has absolutely no awareness that the processing it's doing links in any way to chemicals out in the real world, 41 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:41,940 so therefore it has no intentionality. OK, now I want to highlight a distinction that cell draws. 42 00:04:41,940 --> 00:04:48,210 This is in his book Rediscovery of the Mind Between Intrinsic ASAT, as if and derived intentionality. 43 00:04:48,210 --> 00:04:51,300 And this lies behind quite a lot of what he says. 44 00:04:51,300 --> 00:04:59,930 So what he's denying with the computer is intrinsic intentionality, the kind of intentionality that involves. 45 00:04:59,930 --> 00:05:02,510 A real, intentional mental state. 46 00:05:02,510 --> 00:05:16,820 So, for example, when I say I am now thirsty, I'm expressing a real mental state that has relation to things in the world, water wanting water. 47 00:05:16,820 --> 00:05:24,860 Contrast that with as if intentionality. Suppose I say my lawn is thirsty, meaning my lawn could do with being watered. 48 00:05:24,860 --> 00:05:30,200 Actually, the lawn has no genuine, intentional state. I'm just talking about it as though it did. 49 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:37,790 That's fake intentionality. Call it as if intentionality. And then there's another kind derived intentionality. 50 00:05:37,790 --> 00:05:44,120 So suppose I say in French jagran, Swoff means I am very thirsty. 51 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:49,370 I'm expressing the meaning of a foreign phrase. 52 00:05:49,370 --> 00:06:00,710 But that phrase? Well, what I'm doing is expressing the intentionality that a French person would express in using that phrase. 53 00:06:00,710 --> 00:06:10,130 So we can say that the phrase is intentional in the sense, but it's a derived intentionality from the intrinsic intentionality of language uses. 54 00:06:10,130 --> 00:06:13,250 Okay, so you'll find that on the pages I've mentioned in. 55 00:06:13,250 --> 00:06:21,320 So. Okay, so let's go back now and think of the tutoring system, 56 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:29,870 and let's accept that in that system, the processed information has no intrinsic semantics. 57 00:06:29,870 --> 00:06:36,410 There's no semantic or grasp within the system itself. 58 00:06:36,410 --> 00:06:44,160 But I want to suggest that we might nevertheless consider the processing of the information to be intelligent. 59 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:51,380 This is something so seems not to consider. He assumes that intelligence requires intrinsic semantics. 60 00:06:51,380 --> 00:06:56,000 But I think we can challenge that. We can say, OK, the system. 61 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:06,680 Admittedly, it has no clue that the processing it's doing relates to links between chemicals and, you know, atoms and molecules and quantum stuff. 62 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,640 And of course, it doesn't have any clue. 63 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:18,350 But nevertheless, the processing that it's doing is intelligent because it is relevantly similar to the reasoning that a human expert does. 64 00:07:18,350 --> 00:07:23,030 OK, so that, it seems to me is is a possible reply here. 65 00:07:23,030 --> 00:07:29,060 We can also consider ways in which computer systems might perhaps achieve intrinsic semantics. 66 00:07:29,060 --> 00:07:41,720 So put that first response on one side for now, and let's consider whether a computer could achieve intrinsic semantics. 67 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:46,550 OK. Well, the objection does seem quite strong sales objection in terms of physical things, 68 00:07:46,550 --> 00:07:53,150 you know that the system really it has this symbol inside it that represents H2O, 69 00:07:53,150 --> 00:08:04,100 but it doesn't have a clue that that has anything to do with what I may produce a system that you know, thinks about plants. 70 00:08:04,100 --> 00:08:09,140 It has a symbol for a tree, but it's got no idea that that actually relates to trees out there. 71 00:08:09,140 --> 00:08:15,350 Mere internal processing of formal symbols cannot genuinely constitute thought about real trees. 72 00:08:15,350 --> 00:08:20,510 That seems plausible. It's not so clear. We thought about abstract entities, 73 00:08:20,510 --> 00:08:28,820 say numbers or chess positions where intelligent processing needn't be responsive to the properties of concrete things like trees, 74 00:08:28,820 --> 00:08:33,680 but only to appropriate logical relations, and those can be represented formally. 75 00:08:33,680 --> 00:08:41,900 So I just want to give you an example here of a simple programme, and you can actually run this programme for yourself within the turtle system. 76 00:08:41,900 --> 00:08:50,030 It's available as a A. You can freely download this and it's one of the help, for example, files there. 77 00:08:50,030 --> 00:08:56,930 Here we've got a simple programme. I'm playing blue and the thing's going to beat me, right? 78 00:08:56,930 --> 00:08:59,930 Yeah, because I played a bad first move, right? 79 00:08:59,930 --> 00:09:07,840 And if I play in the corner, I can guarantee that it will play in the middle because that's the only move that doesn't lose. 80 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:21,100 Gosh, it's taking a long time. Thinking hard, maybe are. 81 00:09:21,100 --> 00:09:26,290 OK, now I want to point out that programme is not driven by a look up table. 82 00:09:26,290 --> 00:09:30,310 OK? When it was working out to play in the middle, 83 00:09:30,310 --> 00:09:37,600 it really was calculating all the possible lines of there's a recursive procedure that does all the work. 84 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:44,500 I mean, surprisingly short, really. But it is analysing all the way down the tree of analysis. 85 00:09:44,500 --> 00:09:57,580 So the the point here is that the processing there really does reflect the logic of the problem domain. 86 00:09:57,580 --> 00:10:05,890 When it decides which move to play, it is doing so in terms of the genuine relations between different positions. 87 00:10:05,890 --> 00:10:12,010 Of course, the positions are represented in a way quite different from how they're represented in our minds. 88 00:10:12,010 --> 00:10:17,650 But the links between the positions faithfully reflect the relationships that 89 00:10:17,650 --> 00:10:23,590 we are aware of in terms of a move changing from one position to another. 90 00:10:23,590 --> 00:10:27,310 So basically, it is doing what's called mini maxing. 91 00:10:27,310 --> 00:10:31,870 At the end of the handout. I've put six slides which explain how the programme works. 92 00:10:31,870 --> 00:10:38,050 If you've not come across this thing, this kind of thing that that will be illuminating, it's actually very straightforward. 93 00:10:38,050 --> 00:10:44,920 The programme obviously isn't aware, but its processing is appropriately responsive to the real logic of the game. 94 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:53,050 So shouldn't that be enough for intelligence? It seems to me a reasonable claim or an arguable claim. 95 00:10:53,050 --> 00:10:56,680 It at least that it is OK. 96 00:10:56,680 --> 00:11:04,570 Having said that, I'm going to put all this on one side because I think getting into philosophy of mathematics, 97 00:11:04,570 --> 00:11:14,320 understanding our thinking about numbers and abstract relationships between games, positions and all the rest really is quite difficult and obscure. 98 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:22,270 And in any case, soul is mainly concerned with the kind of thinking that we have in common with animals. 99 00:11:22,270 --> 00:11:28,570 And he thinks not with computers, namely thoughts about things in the real world, physical things that's much more central. 100 00:11:28,570 --> 00:11:39,250 So even if so, was to concede the point that that machines can be intelligent in an appropriate sense about abstract objects. 101 00:11:39,250 --> 00:11:47,050 They it's really thinking about more everyday physical objects and so on that are his main concern. 102 00:11:47,050 --> 00:11:58,330 Okay, so with apologies to Monty Python, you recognise that if you're familiar with it, I'm a lumberjack and I'm OK, I'm going to take on now. 103 00:11:58,330 --> 00:12:06,430 The robot reply to the Chinese room, and I'm going to combine it with the system or. 104 00:12:06,430 --> 00:12:16,040 So imagine a robotic crane armed with appropriate sensors and tours and tools, which is programmed to cut down trees intelligently and effectively. 105 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,310 OK, I'm not begging the question by saying intelligently. 106 00:12:18,310 --> 00:12:24,310 All I mean is it's doing the kind of thing that an intelligent human would do in that position. 107 00:12:24,310 --> 00:12:29,710 It senses for itself which trees are suitable for chopping or pruning and which of best left. 108 00:12:29,710 --> 00:12:37,690 It takes account of relevant conservation needs. It's responsive to physical obstructions and other difficulties and real time events as it works. 109 00:12:37,690 --> 00:12:41,050 OK, so this robotic crane if, say, 110 00:12:41,050 --> 00:12:50,290 overnight some trees get blown down and are in the way it will respond appropriately will detect them using its sensors. 111 00:12:50,290 --> 00:12:54,430 It will chop them up. Carry the bits to where bits should be carried. 112 00:12:54,430 --> 00:13:03,710 Clear the lines and then get on with its job. So the internal states of the robot are responsive to physical things and impact causally on them. 113 00:13:03,710 --> 00:13:11,950 So we've got to weigh causation, right? It senses real things and is able to act on real things. 114 00:13:11,950 --> 00:13:16,990 OK, so the claim here is that robot. 115 00:13:16,990 --> 00:13:26,920 The robotic crane literally reaches out to the real world when the symbol tree occurs within its thinking. 116 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:31,000 It actually does have an impact on the real world and is responsive to the real world. 117 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:40,010 So why doesn't that have real intentionality? Well, remember his response to the robot reply? 118 00:13:40,010 --> 00:13:44,650 I would suggest we should consider a Chinese cabin in the grain fed, 119 00:13:44,650 --> 00:13:49,150 with messages from the sensors written in Chinese characters processed purely 120 00:13:49,150 --> 00:13:54,640 syntactically by the man inside and resulting in Chinese messages to the Cranes motors. 121 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,780 All of these messages being incomprehensible to the guy in the cabin. 122 00:13:58,780 --> 00:14:03,010 So remember, his reply is a response to the robot reply. 123 00:14:03,010 --> 00:14:07,240 It's exactly like that. 124 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:20,330 But this response is only conclusive is if his rebuttal to the system reply works okay because we can simply say, OK, so if you take the central. 125 00:14:20,330 --> 00:14:27,060 As a unit of the computer that's there in the cabin of the robot and replace it with a person. 126 00:14:27,060 --> 00:14:32,390 OK, let's agree that that person has no semantic grasp of what's going on. 127 00:14:32,390 --> 00:14:38,000 They're just receiving symbols from the sensors and so forth and churning out symbols in response that work, 128 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:49,760 the motors and the saw and all that kind of stuff. No idea at all that they're even controlling a robotic lumberjack crane. 129 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:56,780 But as Copeland insists, that doesn't imply that the system as a whole lacks semantics that requires another argument. 130 00:14:56,780 --> 00:15:03,770 So I'm appealing here to Copeland's point, but still has not refuted the system reply. 131 00:15:03,770 --> 00:15:10,760 And because of that, the fact that the the central processor unit of the crane, 132 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:18,950 all the man who's taking that place doesn't have any semantic link with the world doesn't imply that the crane doesn't. 133 00:15:18,950 --> 00:15:25,970 The crane has sensors and motors and saws and all the rest as well. 134 00:15:25,970 --> 00:15:32,780 And in that case, I'm suggesting that the man's unawareness of that is irrelevant. 135 00:15:32,780 --> 00:15:35,480 Or at least it's a challenge to sell to explain why. 136 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:45,140 It's not because if, if intentionality, you know, reaching out to the world, having reference to the real world is watching question. 137 00:15:45,140 --> 00:15:54,510 Why doesn't the robotic crane achieve that? It's having a very real impact and is responding to things in the real world. 138 00:15:54,510 --> 00:16:02,030 So what is it that machines are supposed to lack according to So? 139 00:16:02,030 --> 00:16:03,650 Well, 140 00:16:03,650 --> 00:16:14,630 the style of his arguments seems to suggest that the crucial thing is that they lack understanding internal conscious awareness of what's going on. 141 00:16:14,630 --> 00:16:18,110 I note in passing that the word understanding is a very slippery one. 142 00:16:18,110 --> 00:16:27,800 It quite often comes up in philosophical discussion whenever you see some philosopher saying understanding is required or something like that, 143 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:36,830 be very suspicious. Ask yourself what exactly that means, because it can mean a lot of different things anyway. 144 00:16:36,830 --> 00:16:45,500 Animals, by the way, do have what computers lack, according to so visual and auditory experiences, 145 00:16:45,500 --> 00:16:51,830 tactile sensations, hunger, thirst and sexual desire all caused by brain processes. 146 00:16:51,830 --> 00:16:56,600 And they are realised in the structure of the brain, and they are all intentional phenomena. 147 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:02,780 It is just a plain fact about biological evolution that is produced certain type sorts of biological systems, 148 00:17:02,780 --> 00:17:12,730 namely human and certain animal brains that have subjective features, and there are other passages that same effect. 149 00:17:12,730 --> 00:17:24,260 OK, so it seems to be something like animal consciousness that so he's on to hear. 150 00:17:24,260 --> 00:17:33,860 At other points, he recognises that there is another issue here, though our intentional state need not be conscious. 151 00:17:33,860 --> 00:17:41,450 They can be unconscious, so not all of the processing that goes on in our brains is conscious. 152 00:17:41,450 --> 00:17:49,940 What about that? Well, still draws a distinction between consciousness and unconsciousness, 153 00:17:49,940 --> 00:17:55,370 but wants to insist isn't what characterises an unconscious, intentional state. 154 00:17:55,370 --> 00:18:04,760 That is, that it is at least potentially conscious. Only a being that could have conscious intentional states could have intentional states at all, 155 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:09,920 and every unconscious, intentional state is at least potentially conscious. 156 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:15,650 OK, now we might ask questions about that. You know, can it really count as exactly the same state? 157 00:18:15,650 --> 00:18:23,670 If it can be both conscious and unconscious? We won't go into that. We let so have that. 158 00:18:23,670 --> 00:18:32,430 But I won't suggest that he's at risk of conflating two quite different things when he uses terms like semantic and intentionality. 159 00:18:32,430 --> 00:18:40,020 And one notion is roughly that of internal symbols having objective significance representing external things in some 160 00:18:40,020 --> 00:18:47,130 intrinsic way rather than being just thought of by some other agent as having such representative significance. 161 00:18:47,130 --> 00:18:55,950 So take the robotic crane, for example, and contrast that with a piece of text. 162 00:18:55,950 --> 00:19:02,310 The piece of text in itself has no intrinsic link to anything in the world, 163 00:19:02,310 --> 00:19:10,530 any representational power that it has is purely in terms of our reading it and understanding it in a particular way. 164 00:19:10,530 --> 00:19:15,900 But the robotic crane does have a direct links with the outside world. 165 00:19:15,900 --> 00:19:21,420 It doesn't need an agent once it started going. 166 00:19:21,420 --> 00:19:26,550 It is going to have links with the outside world so that the symbols within it 167 00:19:26,550 --> 00:19:31,950 have objective significance without requiring any other agent in the picture. 168 00:19:31,950 --> 00:19:40,450 At least Wally Power keeps getting. OK, so that's one notion. 169 00:19:40,450 --> 00:19:45,460 The other notion is that of internal symbols having subjective significance to the agent 170 00:19:45,460 --> 00:19:51,280 in question and hence requiring either consciousness or at least potential consciousness. 171 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:58,840 So this one is more demanding than that. And I'm suggesting that so kind of conflates them together. 172 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:08,110 So if we do conflate these notes, it's going to pretty much follow straight away that only conscious beings can have intelligence. 173 00:20:08,110 --> 00:20:16,780 Now the point I'm making is that there's no obvious reason why we have to go with so on that. 174 00:20:16,780 --> 00:20:20,260 So here's how I think is the simplest way to oppose. 175 00:20:20,260 --> 00:20:26,320 So it's not to get into all sorts of nuances about philosophy of mind and all that kind of stuff. 176 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:37,150 But just let's draw a distinction between information processing and its characteristics and the extent to which that processing is conscious. 177 00:20:37,150 --> 00:20:42,580 We could go further. The former category we could divide into information processing, 178 00:20:42,580 --> 00:20:51,160 which is embodied in such as such a way is to have direct queasy semantic connexions with the relevant subject matter. 179 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:56,440 On the other hand, information processing, which requires interpretation by some external agent. 180 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:05,980 So if we take the tutoring system, the system that tutors about chemistry that isn't embodied OK, 181 00:21:05,980 --> 00:21:12,710 in order to interpret its output as having anything to do with chemistry, it requires an agent doing it. 182 00:21:12,710 --> 00:21:21,460 Where is the robotic lumberjack there? The information processing is embedded in the system through the sensors and the motors and all the rest. 183 00:21:21,460 --> 00:21:25,870 So that has direct. I've called them crazy semantic connexions. 184 00:21:25,870 --> 00:21:29,650 I don't want to argue about the word semantic. They are connexions there. 185 00:21:29,650 --> 00:21:41,200 They link to the outside world. And that is a characteristic of that information processing, irrespective of whether it's conscious so distinguished. 186 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:46,060 In this way, we could have information processing that's conscious and embodied. 187 00:21:46,060 --> 00:21:53,620 We have that higher animals have that unconscious and embodied the robotic lumberjack. 188 00:21:53,620 --> 00:21:58,300 And here I don't mean unconscious in the sense that Searle is talking about with our unconscious states. 189 00:21:58,300 --> 00:22:02,200 I mean, always unconscious, never conscious and embodied. 190 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,820 So that's the robotic lumberjack and then unconscious and second hand. 191 00:22:06,820 --> 00:22:13,810 So that would be when we use artificial intelligence systems, we interpret the output in particular ways. 192 00:22:13,810 --> 00:22:19,750 So, so effectively, you're saying, well, we ought to restrict intelligence to the first of those. 193 00:22:19,750 --> 00:22:27,040 And I'm saying, why do you have a good reason for refusing to call these intelligent? 194 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:33,070 Because after all, if you think about it, suppose you've got a number of robotic lumberjacks. 195 00:22:33,070 --> 00:22:40,600 Some of those might be better than others. Some might be extremely undiscriminating, you know, put them in the wrong place, 196 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,560 and they're just going to hack down everything, whether it requires preservation or not. 197 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:49,900 Others may be very discriminating. Well, don't we want to say that the latter is more intelligent than the former? 198 00:22:49,900 --> 00:22:57,280 Maybe we do. Likewise, you can have artificial intelligence systems that are better or worse at the information processing. 199 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:04,390 Why can't we use the word intelligent genuinely to distinguish the ones that are good at it? 200 00:23:04,390 --> 00:23:14,590 Is there any reason other than prejudice for saying we're only going to count things as intelligent if they are conscious? 201 00:23:14,590 --> 00:23:22,960 A reminder now about something we saw a couple of lectures ago. Turing's response to Jefferson's argument from consciousness. 202 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:27,880 Turing seems to accept that to support mean machine intelligence, 203 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:34,780 he mistake machine consciousness to be a reasonable supposition, just as much with other people. 204 00:23:34,780 --> 00:23:45,220 So he he is actually here taking for granted what it seems to me Searle is trying to insist on. 205 00:23:45,220 --> 00:23:51,850 And I criticised him at the time, you may remember. I don't think Turing is right here. 206 00:23:51,850 --> 00:23:57,670 He says this argument, the argument from consciousness appears to be a denial of the validity of our test, 207 00:23:57,670 --> 00:24:03,760 according to the most extreme form of his view. The only way to know that either a machine or a man thinks is to be that particular man. 208 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:08,290 It is, in fact, solipsistic point of view. So you may remember that. 209 00:24:08,290 --> 00:24:16,510 So Turing seems to be implying that in order to counter the argument from consciousness, 210 00:24:16,510 --> 00:24:23,620 he he has to appeal to the difficulty of establishing that other humans are conscious and then sort of saying, 211 00:24:23,620 --> 00:24:31,090 Well, we should apply the same presumption in favour of computers. 212 00:24:31,090 --> 00:24:34,810 He goes on to give the voter vote sample about the summit. 213 00:24:34,810 --> 00:24:39,400 You know, what would Jefferson say if the sonnet writing machine was able to answer like this in the Bible? 214 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:48,010 Okay, if the answers were satisfactory and sustained, as in the above passage, I suggested back in slide 194, 215 00:24:48,010 --> 00:24:56,500 what Turing should have said is then there would be reason to call the machine intelligent, irrespective of whether or not it has genuine feelings. 216 00:24:56,500 --> 00:25:03,790 Intelligent thinking need not require consciousness, nor even potential consciousness. 217 00:25:03,790 --> 00:25:10,930 That's what I think he should have said. So let me now say more on that. 218 00:25:10,930 --> 00:25:16,600 So most discussions of these sorts of debates seem to proceed on the assumption that 219 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:23,410 we should be looking for a verdict based on our current conceptual repertoire, 220 00:25:23,410 --> 00:25:29,920 our ordinary common sense conceptual repertoire that we grow up with. 221 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:34,930 And I want to suggest that's wrong. That's not the way science works. 222 00:25:34,930 --> 00:25:39,740 If. Science at work like that, it would never have gone forward in the way it has. 223 00:25:39,740 --> 00:25:49,790 And I want to suggest the same applies to philosophy when we are considering a novel puzzle cases in philosophy. 224 00:25:49,790 --> 00:25:56,810 We ought to be prepared to expand our conceptual repertoire to deal with them because when we reach, 225 00:25:56,810 --> 00:26:06,140 when we meet new challenges, one of the things those challenges do is precisely to contest the traditional boundaries. 226 00:26:06,140 --> 00:26:12,380 I say more about this in a paper. I refer to their philosophical significance of the Turing machine in the Turing test. 227 00:26:12,380 --> 00:26:22,600 It was published in that that big collection of 2013 that I mentioned at the start of the lectures. 228 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:27,910 So let's go back to Turing's prediction that we talked about this last time. 229 00:26:27,910 --> 00:26:33,220 The original question can machines think, I believe, to be too meaningless to deserve discussion? 230 00:26:33,220 --> 00:26:40,240 Nevertheless, I believe the end of the century the use of words and general educated opinion will have altered 231 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:47,350 so much that one will be able to speak of machines thinking without expecting to be contradicted. 232 00:26:47,350 --> 00:26:58,450 So I'm suggesting that we take this as a hint, and this leads in a different direction from Turing's response to Jefferson saying, 233 00:26:58,450 --> 00:27:04,750 Oh, let's accept the fact that we're talking here about evolution of our concepts, 234 00:27:04,750 --> 00:27:16,700 so we don't need to go along with Jefferson in just identifying intelligence and consciousness or assuming that one requires the other. 235 00:27:16,700 --> 00:27:26,840 And an important point here, I want to make against a thought experiment or against their uses intuition pumps, 236 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,600 which we've been looking at in the last couple of lectures, 237 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:38,720 we saw Dennett discussing these very contemptuous into misleading or simplistic comparisons because 238 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:48,690 precisely they appeal to our intuitive assumptions and that can drown out unexpected differences. 239 00:27:48,690 --> 00:27:54,630 So the problem we thought experiment is they are always appealing to something familiar 240 00:27:54,630 --> 00:28:00,210 and inviting us to see something novel as relevantly similar to the familiar thing. 241 00:28:00,210 --> 00:28:07,410 So let's make judgements accordingly. No, let's not. When we are faced with new realities, 242 00:28:07,410 --> 00:28:20,490 sometimes we have to think those through in novel ways and not assume the categories that we brought with us will apply to them satisfactorily. 243 00:28:20,490 --> 00:28:26,730 And I want to suggest that major scientific progress is very often involve these kinds of major novelties, 244 00:28:26,730 --> 00:28:34,290 bringing what are called paradigm shifts and fundamental new methods of explanation. 245 00:28:34,290 --> 00:28:46,260 And just as a matter of interest, before I get onto my rapid run through the history of science, it's very interesting to note that Luciano Floride, 246 00:28:46,260 --> 00:28:56,340 like me, sees Turing's discovery in 1936 as a sort of conceptual revolution, but he interprets it in a different way. 247 00:28:56,340 --> 00:29:05,790 I'm going to be talking about modes of explanation in science. He talks about humanity's fundamental nature and role in the universe. 248 00:29:05,790 --> 00:29:10,710 We are not immobile at the centre of the universe. That's what Copernicus showed. 249 00:29:10,710 --> 00:29:16,240 Personally, I'm a little bit more inclined to give the credit to Galileo. Copernicus came up with the theory. 250 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:23,010 Galileo proved it with this telescope. We are not unnaturally distinct and different from the rest of the animal world. 251 00:29:23,010 --> 00:29:27,870 Darwin and we are far from being entirely transparent to ourselves. 252 00:29:27,870 --> 00:29:33,570 Freud here I would give more credit to David Hume. 253 00:29:33,570 --> 00:29:40,740 I would one day. But long before Freud, Hume had drawn this conclusion. 254 00:29:40,740 --> 00:29:49,170 I think Hume's arguments are a lot more solid than Freud psychology, but anyway, similar kind of point. 255 00:29:49,170 --> 00:29:57,210 We are now slowly accepting the idea that we might be informational organisms amongst many agents, Turing. 256 00:29:57,210 --> 00:30:07,240 So as I say, I'm just going to very quickly give a similar sort of rapid history, except in terms of modes of explanation. 257 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:17,430 OK, so if you go back before 6500, before Galileo, more or less everything in the world is explained in terms of purpose. 258 00:30:17,430 --> 00:30:27,690 God's purpose, of course, God has designed the world in the way it is, but other things to act according to purpose. 259 00:30:27,690 --> 00:30:35,160 So obviously, humans, obviously animals, but actually also physical objects. 260 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,630 If I take a stone and I drop it, the stone falls downwards. 261 00:30:39,630 --> 00:30:44,730 The reason it falls downwards is that it's striving to reach its natural place in the universe. 262 00:30:44,730 --> 00:30:48,540 Its natural place in the universe is at the centre of the universe. 263 00:30:48,540 --> 00:31:00,150 There are four main elements beneath the moon earth, water, air and fire, and they occupy places going outwards from the centre of the universe. 264 00:31:00,150 --> 00:31:07,890 So a stone being made mainly of Earth naturally moves towards its natural place, which is the centre of the universe. 265 00:31:07,890 --> 00:31:12,690 So stones are actually striving to achieve a certain purpose. 266 00:31:12,690 --> 00:31:19,540 So more or less, you know, all of science is based on purposes. 267 00:31:19,540 --> 00:31:24,760 Galileo turns his telescope up, shows that the Earth is not the centre of the universe, right? 268 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:31,810 Yes. All right. That is perhaps a bit damaging to human hubris, as Florida points out. 269 00:31:31,810 --> 00:31:37,360 But I think more fundamentally, it completely scuppered the Aristotelian explanation. 270 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,890 The whole Aristotelian physics goes out of the window because if the Earth is not the centre of the universe, 271 00:31:41,890 --> 00:31:48,670 then you can't explain the motion of rocks and things by their striving to reach the centre of the universe. 272 00:31:48,670 --> 00:31:54,940 So we get a completely new physics based on the idea of inertia that things naturally 273 00:31:54,940 --> 00:32:02,320 move at a constant speed in straight lines unless acted upon by some force. 274 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,160 And gravity remains a big problem in those terms. 275 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:14,260 Descartes comes up with a nice explanation in terms of the essence of matter being extension and therefore the universe working with vortices. 276 00:32:14,260 --> 00:32:25,600 Newton more successfully postulate a completely new way in which science can work, not explaining things in terms of physical contact. 277 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:30,010 One thing bashing another, which is what Descartes had tried to do, 278 00:32:30,010 --> 00:32:38,020 but instead postulating a force that acts according to certain mathematical properties proportional 279 00:32:38,020 --> 00:32:43,030 to the the masses concerned and inversely proportional to the square of the distance. 280 00:32:43,030 --> 00:32:56,780 That's a new kind of explanation in science. In the 18th century, Hume throws doubt on traditional conceptions of human behaviour. 281 00:32:56,780 --> 00:33:02,000 Actually, humans are not nearly as based on reason as they like to think. 282 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,540 Moreover, more importantly, they could not be they could not be. 283 00:33:05,540 --> 00:33:10,220 If you try to follow the ideal of Aristotle, for example, 284 00:33:10,220 --> 00:33:16,640 and Plato and so forth of living a life purely according to reason, you won't be able to do anything. 285 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:25,640 So Hume is pointing out that animal instinct and feeling plays a much bigger role, 286 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:31,010 and that is obviously putting us closer to the animals rather than to gods. 287 00:33:31,010 --> 00:33:38,360 And indeed, Hume argues that explicitly. Charles Darwin, of course, came along simultaneously with with with Wallace. 288 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:45,560 I mean, Darwin published his theory in the same year as Wallace and was prompted to do so by Wallace. 289 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:58,820 His theory of evolution biological organisms take the form they do not because of divine design, but because of evolution and natural selection. 290 00:33:58,820 --> 00:34:05,960 So we inherit characteristics from our parents or organisms do. 291 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:15,440 And those characteristics that are better suited to our survival and reproduction naturally get better represented in the next generation. 292 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:20,240 So you get evolution because this doesn't imply that there isn't a god behind it all. 293 00:34:20,240 --> 00:34:30,470 But the crucial point is it shows that a phenomenon which previously would incontrovertibly have been ascribed to intelligent design, 294 00:34:30,470 --> 00:34:36,470 namely the exquisite adaptation of organisms to their environment now has an 295 00:34:36,470 --> 00:34:46,930 alternative explanation doesn't require conscious purpose to get exquisite adaptation. 296 00:34:46,930 --> 00:34:49,900 Moving on to our series of revolutions again, I mean, 297 00:34:49,900 --> 00:34:56,170 do notice that both human Darwin there are bringing in new methods of explanation in science before Darwin. 298 00:34:56,170 --> 00:35:01,270 Right? An evolutionary explanation wasn't there after Darwin. 299 00:35:01,270 --> 00:35:09,070 We've got a new method of explaining things. General relativity brings in another one to do with curving space time. 300 00:35:09,070 --> 00:35:12,160 Quantum mechanics brings in yet another. 301 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:24,580 So these major happenings in the history of science, all of them are bringing in new methods of explanation going beyond the natural, 302 00:35:24,580 --> 00:35:33,470 intuitive explanation in terms of purpose, which seems to come in a most easily to us. 303 00:35:33,470 --> 00:35:41,630 And they're bringing in fundamental changes in thinking they do change how we see our place in the universe, as Florida pointed out. 304 00:35:41,630 --> 00:35:49,190 They also extend our understanding of the possibilities of scientific explanation mathematical forces rather than strivings, 305 00:35:49,190 --> 00:35:56,240 inherited variation and selection rather than rational design curvature in spacetime rather than Newtonian forces. 306 00:35:56,240 --> 00:36:03,650 And I want to point out that the philosopher sorry, the scientists who made these big advances were very, 307 00:36:03,650 --> 00:36:06,680 very strongly influenced by philosophical thinking. 308 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:14,050 I mean, the backing Galileo and Descartes and Boyle's time, and so they styled themselves natural philosophers. 309 00:36:14,050 --> 00:36:18,170 But it's interesting that Darwin was very influenced by Hume. 310 00:36:18,170 --> 00:36:22,430 He was reading Hume on the reason of animals at the time he came up with the theory of evolution. 311 00:36:22,430 --> 00:36:31,850 He'd read lots of stuff on him. Einstein, rather nicely as well, credited Hume with the insight that led to the theory of relativity. 312 00:36:31,850 --> 00:36:45,230 I think that's particularly nice. You know, two centuries later and thinking in philosophical ways is prompting new thinking in science. 313 00:36:45,230 --> 00:36:48,620 Now, going back to the physics again, 314 00:36:48,620 --> 00:36:57,800 but relativity and quantum mechanics particularly illustrate how wrong our intuitive understanding of things can be. 315 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:06,920 I think evolution has now got sufficiently into our general consciousness that an educated people no longer find that particularly strange relativity, 316 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:13,250 curvature of space, time and quantum mechanics are seriously weird. 317 00:37:13,250 --> 00:37:21,690 And I think anybody who isn't trained very heavily in physics is going to find those weird and. 318 00:37:21,690 --> 00:37:24,510 Yet these are important conceptual advances. 319 00:37:24,510 --> 00:37:32,970 OK, science is advanced by showing that there's something wrong or inadequate in our intuitive understanding. 320 00:37:32,970 --> 00:37:46,830 And I want to suggest that Alan Turing's discovery of the Turing machine is comparable with those kind of innovations. 321 00:37:46,830 --> 00:37:53,400 Obviously, he and girdle and so on have shown that some mathematical questions for which there's no possible method of solution. 322 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:58,590 So, you know, the the advances that came in the 1930s in philosophy of maths, 323 00:37:58,590 --> 00:38:07,650 those shook very fundamental assumptions that had hitherto been more or less universal, 324 00:38:07,650 --> 00:38:19,020 but also obviously more pertinent here with regard to the nature of thinking, we need to be open to the possibility of inanimate thought. 325 00:38:19,020 --> 00:38:24,600 So what Turing showed is that information processing can be understood in terms of symbolic inputs 326 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:30,310 and outputs governed by explicit and automatic processes with a limited range of operations. 327 00:38:30,310 --> 00:38:34,620 OK, we saw that in going through his 1936 paper. 328 00:38:34,620 --> 00:38:38,520 We've got the Turing machine, very limited repertoire of possibilities. 329 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:46,860 And Turing argues that anything that can be calculated systematically can be calculated by such a machine. 330 00:38:46,860 --> 00:39:00,130 And the Church Turing thesis backs that up. So information and information processing in this sense does not presuppose an understanding mind. 331 00:39:00,130 --> 00:39:10,600 So we now have sophisticated information processing machines capable of doing anything that we can conceive how to do in a systematic way, 332 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:15,850 but they can do it without any conscious purpose at all. 333 00:39:15,850 --> 00:39:20,110 And I want to suggest that that's somewhat similar to Darwin's innovation. 334 00:39:20,110 --> 00:39:24,580 Darwin showed that you can have sophisticated adaptation without intentional design. 335 00:39:24,580 --> 00:39:32,680 Turing showed that you can have information processing without that information existing in a conscious mind, 336 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:39,880 and that is a novelty, OK, before computers came along. 337 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:49,690 Words like intelligent were only associated with conscious things that had purposes agents applying their intelligence to the situation. 338 00:39:49,690 --> 00:39:53,170 They understand themselves to be in performing sophisticated processing of 339 00:39:53,170 --> 00:39:58,870 information in order to adapt their behaviour to achieve their own purposes. 340 00:39:58,870 --> 00:40:05,410 By contrast, inanimate things just don't have purposes. So there's no question of them having intelligence. 341 00:40:05,410 --> 00:40:11,290 But then what we have since Turing is intelligent processing of information, 342 00:40:11,290 --> 00:40:17,110 apparently by things that are inanimate, that don't have their own purposes. 343 00:40:17,110 --> 00:40:22,990 So what I want to suggest is when we're faced with that, what we should do is modify our concepts. 344 00:40:22,990 --> 00:40:35,680 We shouldn't try to apply our pre-existing naive concepts to this new reality, just like with Darwin and Einstein and quantum mechanics and so on. 345 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:42,180 We have to invent new concepts. We have to divide things in new ways. 346 00:40:42,180 --> 00:40:50,070 Now, there's a general point to be made actually about lots of our concepts, not just the special scientific ones. 347 00:40:50,070 --> 00:40:59,190 Friedrich Weissman, who's a sort of follower of and Stein he set himself to write up in relatively clear language. 348 00:40:59,190 --> 00:41:07,690 What he took to be the outcome of Vik and Stein's work. Of course, as a result, Vik and Stein hated it. 349 00:41:07,690 --> 00:41:12,600 He came up with the very nice notion of open texture. So it's a kind of tinian notion. 350 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,860 But it's the idea is that most of our concepts are open, textured. 351 00:41:16,860 --> 00:41:21,750 It's not clear in advance how we would apply them to all possible cases. 352 00:41:21,750 --> 00:41:27,870 Now, open texture is actually particularly prominent as a concept in law because in law, 353 00:41:27,870 --> 00:41:35,670 you can imagine you set out laws to prescribe what should happen in a particular situation, and it really matters, right? 354 00:41:35,670 --> 00:41:40,230 Penalties could depend on this or what people are allowed to do depends on this. 355 00:41:40,230 --> 00:41:52,770 So the categories really matter. It's not just like philosophers, you know, playing their word games, and sometimes this can impact with reality. 356 00:41:52,770 --> 00:42:00,840 So suppose we have a society where marriage is understood as being between a man and a woman only no sex change is nothing like that. 357 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:08,340 No, no, that doesn't happen. But then maybe things change and we do get sex changes. 358 00:42:08,340 --> 00:42:10,470 Or maybe we get new discoveries about, you know, 359 00:42:10,470 --> 00:42:17,310 chromosomal abnormalities and whatever we discover more about humans or humans are presented with new possibilities. 360 00:42:17,310 --> 00:42:22,440 Well, we have to wonder how the old law applies. We can't just apply it mindlessly. 361 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:28,840 We have to ask ourselves, how should this law be adapted in this new situation? 362 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,650 I mean, another example inheritance rights. 363 00:42:31,650 --> 00:42:40,230 Suppose you have a society in which children are always, always stay with their parents and inheritance is understood accordingly. 364 00:42:40,230 --> 00:42:47,940 But then adoption becomes common as a practise. Maybe because there's a nasty plague or something like that, a game like death. 365 00:42:47,940 --> 00:42:56,820 And suddenly you get totally new social practises. You have to ask how the traditional laws are going to be applied. 366 00:42:56,820 --> 00:43:02,880 And those of you who know about Theseus to shift the imagine Theseus, the Greek hero, 367 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:09,360 has a ship which he is regularly getting repaired and he takes it back to the ship, right? 368 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:16,080 Who built it and the ship right? Whenever he, whenever he replaces a plank, keeps the old one. 369 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:26,640 And then some years later, when all the planks have been replaced, the ship right builds a new the initial ship with the original planks. 370 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:35,040 Well, is that actually the same ship or not? Or should we say that the same ship is the one that Theseus has been sailing around it? 371 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:41,670 Well, again, this could matter in a legal context because maybe CCC ship has mooring rights in perpetuity somewhere. 372 00:43:41,670 --> 00:43:46,380 So if the ship right now turns up with the ship and says, actually, this is the sister ship, 373 00:43:46,380 --> 00:43:53,460 this is the one that has the mooring rights, well, does it or not? Probably not. 374 00:43:53,460 --> 00:44:00,630 I rather like this punch cartoon from 1869. I think it's a nice example of open texture. 375 00:44:00,630 --> 00:44:04,920 So it's a woman with a menagerie of creatures wanting to go on the train. 376 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:14,340 Right? And the the port is, as station master says, mum of cats is dogs and rabbits is dogs and those parrots. 377 00:44:14,340 --> 00:44:20,220 But this year, tortoise is an insect, so there ain't no charge for it. 378 00:44:20,220 --> 00:44:25,020 So the porter knows how to charge for dogs and people, but but not for an insect. 379 00:44:25,020 --> 00:44:31,200 You don't charge for insects, but he doesn't know how to charge for cats and rabbits and parrots and tortoises, 380 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:37,320 so they have to be categorised under the existing categories. 381 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:43,290 OK, now open texture cut in two directions, first of all. 382 00:44:43,290 --> 00:44:45,960 And this, by the way, at least Weisman claims, 383 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:54,090 I think quite plausibly is something a phenomenon that applies to a lot of our concepts, not just special ones. 384 00:44:54,090 --> 00:45:06,390 You know, arguably most of our concepts are derived from our experience in the world and not necessarily defined beyond that. 385 00:45:06,390 --> 00:45:11,160 We can't expect our concepts to be prepared in advance for all new eventualities. 386 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:19,470 They may have to be revised or tuned to new contexts, and especially, of course, when big new innovations come. 387 00:45:19,470 --> 00:45:27,420 And another point is we needn't accept any requirement when reshooting our concepts to make them immune to future revision. 388 00:45:27,420 --> 00:45:32,760 We don't have to take all future possibilities, let alone all logical possibilities into account. 389 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:40,170 So philosophers actually have a good reason when somebody says, Look, before we discuss X knowledge, 390 00:45:40,170 --> 00:45:45,480 personal identity, whatever it might be, we've got to define it precisely. 391 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:53,270 Answer sorry, can't do it as the experience of philosophy shows. 392 00:45:53,270 --> 00:46:02,510 And a point I want to draw from that is when revising our concepts, we have every right to ignore crazy thought experiments. 393 00:46:02,510 --> 00:46:10,940 That's a controversial claim. I'm saying if it's true that in general, our concepts are tuned to the world as we experience it, 394 00:46:10,940 --> 00:46:15,830 then imagining some world in which things are wildly different and being asked, 395 00:46:15,830 --> 00:46:19,010 How is your concept going to apply there should you not be changing it? 396 00:46:19,010 --> 00:46:23,960 My answer is going to be no. Maybe I need to tune it to realities. 397 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:36,380 Maybe I need to tune it to potential realities. But to impossibilities or complete implausibility is no, I'm not going to accept that obligation. 398 00:46:36,380 --> 00:46:42,230 OK, against that background. Let's now ask ourselves how in general, we judge intelligence, 399 00:46:42,230 --> 00:46:50,750 so I've argued that we should be prepared to consider intelligent things that are unconscious. 400 00:46:50,750 --> 00:46:59,150 I have acknowledged that our everyday concept of intelligence, the one that we and our parents and our parents, 401 00:46:59,150 --> 00:47:06,500 parents and our parents parents have grown up with has evolved to fit a world or being, you know, 402 00:47:06,500 --> 00:47:14,210 created to fit a world in which the only intelligent things are conscious, purposive creatures. 403 00:47:14,210 --> 00:47:26,240 I'm saying we now have a new reality. Apparently, intelligent processing going on within things that are not conscious or purposive. 404 00:47:26,240 --> 00:47:33,230 How are we going to judge those? OK, how do we think about intelligence in ordinary life? 405 00:47:33,230 --> 00:47:37,640 Well, first of all, its subject relative? Yeah. 406 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:46,790 Many of us here would be considered very intelligent about some things we're probably considered very far from intelligent about some others. 407 00:47:46,790 --> 00:47:51,260 It's a matter of degree. We don't say some things intelligent or unintelligent. 408 00:47:51,260 --> 00:47:55,400 We say some things more intelligent or person is more intelligent than another. 409 00:47:55,400 --> 00:48:00,590 And hopefully, you know, when we study here, we get more intelligent and so forth. 410 00:48:00,590 --> 00:48:08,150 It's generally measured by performance, including flexibility, speed, appropriateness of response to new requirements or new information. 411 00:48:08,150 --> 00:48:16,250 So someone who's able to adapt to new things to learn new skills in relation to some domain, 412 00:48:16,250 --> 00:48:22,520 we think of them as more intelligent than someone who's simply been trained to deal with a fixed repertoire. 413 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:35,040 It's not significantly correlated with feeling or consciousness. We don't judge someone as more intelligent because they Campbell agree. 414 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:40,740 So suppose we now distinguish sharply between the sophistication of information 415 00:48:40,740 --> 00:48:45,120 processing and the phenomenology phenomenology is a technical philosopher's term, 416 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,790 meaning what it's like from the inside, right? 417 00:48:47,790 --> 00:48:56,160 So we're going to distinguish between sophistication of information processing on one hand and the consciousness, the inner life on the other. 418 00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:00,900 They often come apart. I mean, we've already seen hints of some of this. 419 00:49:00,900 --> 00:49:06,270 Dogs can decide desire things as strongly as we do. Yes. 420 00:49:06,270 --> 00:49:14,100 I mean, anyone who's seen a dog with a ball coming up to you and holding its mouth looking appealingly, please, please throw the ball. 421 00:49:14,100 --> 00:49:18,350 I want to play. Right? Dogs can desire things very, very strongly. 422 00:49:18,350 --> 00:49:21,750 That doesn't make us judge them extra intelligent. 423 00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:28,530 I'm pretty intelligent compared to most animals, but it's not in proportion to the strength of their desires. 424 00:49:28,530 --> 00:49:32,100 Experts are often less conscious than novices. 425 00:49:32,100 --> 00:49:39,330 So, for example, expert drivers who are used to commuting along a particular road day after day after day, 426 00:49:39,330 --> 00:49:44,940 it's absolutely familiar that they can come to the end of their journey and walk into work. 427 00:49:44,940 --> 00:49:51,780 And somebody says, How was the drive today? I can't remember unless something special happened. 428 00:49:51,780 --> 00:49:55,110 You just drive along. I mean, you're obviously taking note of things. 429 00:49:55,110 --> 00:50:04,530 You're avoiding, you know, pedestrians, you're taking note of traffic lights, you're overtaking and being overtaken and, you know, driving safely. 430 00:50:04,530 --> 00:50:11,460 But you're almost I mean, you wouldn't say you're unconscious while you're doing it, but it barely impacts on your consciousness, 431 00:50:11,460 --> 00:50:20,400 whereas a novice driver someone is learning to drive is going to be aware of every single little thing. 432 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:27,480 The same is true, for example, chess players. It's very frustrating actually talking to an expert chess player and sometimes and saying, 433 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:32,340 Why did you play that move, just the right move to play in that kind of position? 434 00:50:32,340 --> 00:50:39,990 Thanks very much. Where is the novice will be able to tell you exactly, Oh, I thought this and this and this and this and this. 435 00:50:39,990 --> 00:50:45,960 Actually, the more expert we are, often the less conscious we become another. 436 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:51,900 I think corroborative piece of evidence. Our intuitive judgements about what is easy are often badly wrong. 437 00:50:51,900 --> 00:50:56,430 So most people think arithmetic is really, really difficult. 438 00:50:56,430 --> 00:51:02,460 We know, you know, from computers, arithmetic is comparatively trivial in terms of information processing, 439 00:51:02,460 --> 00:51:06,240 whereas running and catching a ball, that's seriously difficult. 440 00:51:06,240 --> 00:51:12,330 You know, you've got a balance and you've got to predict where the ball or anticipate where the ball's going to be. 441 00:51:12,330 --> 00:51:18,180 You've got to reach out your hand appropriately and so forth. That's seriously difficult. 442 00:51:18,180 --> 00:51:25,050 And yet we tend to think of it as easy. So our intuitive judgements about information processing tend to be pretty bad. 443 00:51:25,050 --> 00:51:33,670 But dogs can do that pretty well. So in that respect, dogs are very intelligent. 444 00:51:33,670 --> 00:51:38,590 OK, suppose we distinguish sophistication of information processing from the phenomenology, 445 00:51:38,590 --> 00:51:43,980 I'm going to suggest it's clear that intelligence is far more a measure of the former than the latter. 446 00:51:43,980 --> 00:51:52,000 But all all of the evidence I've given in the last two slides suggest that when we judge something's intelligence, 447 00:51:52,000 --> 00:52:00,100 it's mainly a focus on the information processing, the power, the sophistication, the flexibility and so that the information processing. 448 00:52:00,100 --> 00:52:07,690 It's not the phenomenology. And in our new world of unconscious but highly sophisticated information processes, 449 00:52:07,690 --> 00:52:14,980 it makes sense to allow our concept of intelligence to evolve a court accordingly. 450 00:52:14,980 --> 00:52:23,350 So I think Turing's main claim in the paper is vindicated, but not by means of the test that he proposed. 451 00:52:23,350 --> 00:52:28,090 That is, I think, learning from the 1936 paper. 452 00:52:28,090 --> 00:52:37,450 We should accept that you can have intelligent computers. 453 00:52:37,450 --> 00:52:46,510 Coming back now to Turing's approach to this and what I call his solipsistic mistake, I mean, he didn't draw the distinction that I'm drawing. 454 00:52:46,510 --> 00:52:51,970 And I think thus he that weakened his argument and he talked about how. 455 00:52:51,970 --> 00:53:04,120 So if we followed the logical conclusion of Jefferson's objection, we would actually be reduced to solipsism denying consciousness to other humans. 456 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:11,290 I've got a very different way. I've said I fully accept that computers aren't conscious. That doesn't stop them being intelligent. 457 00:53:11,290 --> 00:53:21,460 I don't want to go along with Turing in saying that if I deny consciousness to computers, I have to deny them to my fellow human beings. 458 00:53:21,460 --> 00:53:31,690 Those are very different. We know, at least in outline, why the robot does what it does. 459 00:53:31,690 --> 00:53:44,200 Suppose take a simple example, chess computer, I know in general terms what why the chess computer makes the moves that it does. 460 00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:48,070 I've programmed games, playing programmes. I've read about them. 461 00:53:48,070 --> 00:53:56,980 I know the kinds of algorithms that I know that the computer is doing what he's done because it's been programmed to do it. 462 00:53:56,980 --> 00:54:06,010 I don't have to postulate a desire, a conscious desire on the computer's part because I know full well, a conscious desire plays no part. 463 00:54:06,010 --> 00:54:09,970 Whatever in the causation of its doing its move. 464 00:54:09,970 --> 00:54:20,800 So I might say, Oh, it moved 96, because that was only the the only way of avoiding Queen H7 meant right. 465 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:25,270 But I'm not attributing a conscious purpose with that. 466 00:54:25,270 --> 00:54:36,490 So I may be applying an intentional description to it, but I'm not under the illusion that there's some consciousness that we all the humans. 467 00:54:36,490 --> 00:54:38,770 It's quite different. 468 00:54:38,770 --> 00:54:48,070 I know that other humans function biologically in broadly the same way as I do, and I know that in my life, consciousness plays an important role. 469 00:54:48,070 --> 00:55:00,290 I'm aware of it. I'm aware of my conscious purposes and how they impact on what I do, a very good reason to think that other people are much the same. 470 00:55:00,290 --> 00:55:04,880 Moreover, the phenomenal reality of consciousness, the fact that we are aware of it, 471 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:11,060 that we do ponder things consciously and that they affect how we behave strongly suggests it's something causally active. 472 00:55:11,060 --> 00:55:16,070 It's not just an abstraction of information processing patterns. 473 00:55:16,070 --> 00:55:27,620 So some people speculate that if you had a computer that reasoned in the same way as a human, then that would ipso facto make it conscious. 474 00:55:27,620 --> 00:55:33,320 I don't see any reason for saying that. It seems to me consciousness has a reality. 475 00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:40,520 It's terribly difficult to pin it down or to understand it. But it's not just a matter of information processing. 476 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:48,650 The evolutionary role of it is quite mysterious. Those philosophers like postulating the idea of zombies. 477 00:55:48,650 --> 00:55:56,480 A zombie is a being that is physically the same as a human being. 478 00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:04,700 But with nobody at home, why wouldn't that be possible? Being with all the same neurones as me, but no awareness. 479 00:56:04,700 --> 00:56:08,930 Wouldn't they function physically in exactly the same way? Wouldn't they be just as successful? 480 00:56:08,930 --> 00:56:16,910 In which case, what difference does consciousness make? Well, I want to suggest that the close correlation between consciousness, 481 00:56:16,910 --> 00:56:26,030 the pleasures and pains that we feel and factors affecting our well-being is overwhelming evidence that consciousness is causally active. 482 00:56:26,030 --> 00:56:37,130 The fact that we get pleasure from things like eating honey say which in the environment where we evolved, honey is valuable. 483 00:56:37,130 --> 00:56:44,350 It's got calories in and getting calories, unlike in modern society 100000 years ago, is pretty difficult. 484 00:56:44,350 --> 00:56:51,110 You get honey, you want it. It's nice or injuring yourself that that's that does you harm. 485 00:56:51,110 --> 00:56:57,140 That's painful. And there are loads and loads of respect in which, you know, I mean, eating food is generally pleasurable. 486 00:56:57,140 --> 00:57:07,070 Sex is generally pleasurable. The things that conduce to our evolutionary success are generally pleasurable and the things that harm us are not. 487 00:57:07,070 --> 00:57:21,170 But that's not a coincidence. But conscious states can only track things that are good for us and bad for us if they are causally efficacious. 488 00:57:21,170 --> 00:57:22,760 Consciousness could only evolve. 489 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:30,380 I want to suggest in a way that is so well tuned to our needs, giving us desires for things that are evolutionarily beneficial, 490 00:57:30,380 --> 00:57:37,220 dislike of things that are harmful if it's cause negative, even if we're unable to work out. 491 00:57:37,220 --> 00:57:44,150 How so? I fully accept that philosophers have great difficulty making sense of consciousness. 492 00:57:44,150 --> 00:57:46,640 You know, there's lots of debate about at the moment. 493 00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:54,380 I a personal suspicion is that this isn't going to be sorted out until we have at least one more conceptual revolution. 494 00:57:54,380 --> 00:58:03,810 And I haven't a clue where that's going to come from. But, you know, I think it may be that trying to sort this all out in terms of current science, 495 00:58:03,810 --> 00:58:10,280 it is just futile because we've got to wait for better understanding of the brain. 496 00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,470 Much, much more investigation. 497 00:58:12,470 --> 00:58:22,820 You know, maybe into biochemistry or maybe physics, whatever it won't, I, I expect that, you know, in the next 500 years, 498 00:58:22,820 --> 00:58:32,030 whatever, there may be significant conceptual advances, which will allow us to tackle problems that at present, we can't tackle. 499 00:58:32,030 --> 00:58:38,090 But if I have to make a bet as it were, evolutionary theory is well understood. 500 00:58:38,090 --> 00:58:45,770 Supported by overwhelming empirical evidence, strong scientific evidence trumps armchair speculation. 501 00:58:45,770 --> 00:58:53,360 So there are lots of philosophers speculating in their different ways about consciousness, its role and all the rest. 502 00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:59,480 Where I'm going to plant my flag is I'm confident that consciousness has an 503 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:08,360 evolutionary role is causally efficacious because of the evolutionary argument. 504 00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:13,100 OK, now we humans are all products of the same evolved biological processes. 505 00:59:13,100 --> 00:59:20,480 Know you were born in much the same way as I was and by similar processes. 506 00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:27,260 Even if we cannot work out how consciousness arises, we have very good reason to attribute it to each other. 507 00:59:27,260 --> 00:59:35,660 That argument doesn't apply at all to computers. So there is no reason for supposing computers to be conscious. 508 00:59:35,660 --> 00:59:36,590 But nevertheless, 509 00:59:36,590 --> 00:59:50,660 I have argued we have strong reason in the wake of Turing and his monumental discoveries or inventions to allow that computers can be intelligent. 510 00:59:50,660 --> 00:59:55,532 And that's it. Thank you.