1 00:00:08,190 --> 00:00:17,160 Good evening, friends. It's a pleasure to welcome you to Summerville College this evening. 2 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:23,580 I was very briefly at the conference yesterday. And one thing I didn't say at the time, which I think I should have said at the time, 3 00:00:23,580 --> 00:00:28,470 is that the whole ethos of Somerville College is including the excluded. 4 00:00:28,470 --> 00:00:35,580 And I think that people who have suffered from mental health problems have for far too long been excluded. 5 00:00:35,580 --> 00:00:39,690 So you are absolutely right. Place this evening to have a lecture about mental health. 6 00:00:39,690 --> 00:00:42,810 But I'm not going to introduce our principal speaker this evening. 7 00:00:42,810 --> 00:00:54,300 I'm going to ask, Go, I'm going to ask New Foundation Fellow and we are so delighted that Gopal Surinamese, 8 00:00:54,300 --> 00:00:59,700 who, as you all know, is the former solicitor general for in India. 9 00:00:59,700 --> 00:01:09,830 I'm going to ask him to to introduce this to cash out as a juror because I think it's so important this lecture and go for is just to say welcome. 10 00:01:09,830 --> 00:01:14,940 Some of this is the first time you have welcomed somebody to your college to come. 11 00:01:14,940 --> 00:01:27,080 What a pleasure. Thank you. Thank you, John. 12 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:38,700 It's absolutely marvellous to be present here. Mr Kissel this restroom is a very distinguished civil servant. 13 00:01:38,700 --> 00:01:45,420 I had an opportunity to work with one of his predecessors, Sujata Rao. 14 00:01:45,420 --> 00:01:56,010 And in my capacity as solicitor general, I realised how important was policy and particularly in the context of public health. 15 00:01:56,010 --> 00:02:03,080 And more significantly, in the context of mental health. 16 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:16,310 I had some role to play. In the. Downsizing of the 1987 Mental Health Act, when as a commissioner, I submitted the report, 17 00:02:16,310 --> 00:02:23,410 which led to the reconstruction of a mental health hospital in northeast called Taste Poor. 18 00:02:23,410 --> 00:02:32,740 Having said that, the importance I think of mental health is so fundamental to our existence, 19 00:02:32,740 --> 00:02:41,680 and it is not a surprise that England's chief medical officer in the 2013 annual report 20 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:49,990 identified various groups of young people at risk of developing mental health problems. 21 00:02:49,990 --> 00:02:54,550 Children living at a socioeconomic disadvantage. 22 00:02:54,550 --> 00:03:00,400 Children with parents who themselves had mental health or substance misuse problems. 23 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:09,130 Children who experienced personal abuse or witnessed domestic violence, or those who were excluded from school. 24 00:03:09,130 --> 00:03:13,000 Teen parents. Young offenders. And young lesbian. 25 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:20,920 Gay, bisexual or transgender people. And, of course, ethnic minorities. 26 00:03:20,920 --> 00:03:29,020 What is important is that poverty produces an environment which is extremely harmful to individuals, families, 27 00:03:29,020 --> 00:03:40,810 communities and mental health, and the impacts of poverty are present throughout the life course before bed and into a ditch. 28 00:03:40,810 --> 00:03:48,580 And I do believe that there is something called cumulative impact on mental health, which needs to be addressed. 29 00:03:48,580 --> 00:03:54,100 I admire Mr Kirsch of disruption, although I have met him only this evening. 30 00:03:54,100 --> 00:03:59,410 The reason why I admire him is he is one of the very few civil servants who 31 00:03:59,410 --> 00:04:06,700 has been able to address what I call as cognitive dissonance in policymaking. 32 00:04:06,700 --> 00:04:17,200 He has been aware of it, and particularly how important it is that public health is not merely a project or a magic incantation, 33 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:24,430 but is a real deliverable which adds to the quality of people's lives. 34 00:04:24,430 --> 00:04:31,660 Mental health problems are indeed the largest single source of disability in the United Kingdom. 35 00:04:31,660 --> 00:04:38,260 They account at the moment for over 23 percent of the total burden of disease. 36 00:04:38,260 --> 00:04:46,060 I want all of you to appreciate that there are no signposts all of us can 37 00:04:46,060 --> 00:04:53,590 suffer at some point of time in our own lives or in the lives of our dear ones. 38 00:04:53,590 --> 00:05:02,340 Mental health problems. They are indeed very significant, and they must be addressed. 39 00:05:02,340 --> 00:05:12,480 They must be addressed. I think not only in terms of education awareness, but most importantly, destigmatize issue. 40 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,830 And I also believe that apart from these stigmatisation, 41 00:05:16,830 --> 00:05:24,790 there is so much of scope for new therapeutic curriculum, which should be introduced in schools. 42 00:05:24,790 --> 00:05:31,720 A lot of the work in India, particularly in the public health sector and in the public space, 43 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:38,020 which Mr This Raj has written about is indeed available in the public domain. 44 00:05:38,020 --> 00:05:48,070 But what he has crafted out are actually ground level experiments and the ground level experiments, 45 00:05:48,070 --> 00:05:56,110 which are translated into real deliverables, make his work extremely significant. 46 00:05:56,110 --> 00:06:03,820 I said on behalf of Somerville College and the principal, extend you a very special welcome. 47 00:06:03,820 --> 00:06:10,810 And having had the privilege of worked with very distinguished civil servants in the government who have 48 00:06:10,810 --> 00:06:19,630 contributed so much to society and to thought and who are not merely the last levels of Whitehall's, 49 00:06:19,630 --> 00:06:25,180 I'm sure we are all looking forward to an evening of stunning disclosures. 50 00:06:25,180 --> 00:06:43,910 Thank you. Barrenness, royal friends. 51 00:06:43,910 --> 00:06:49,460 I'm delighted and honoured to be asked to give this lecture. 52 00:06:49,460 --> 00:06:56,640 Several people have made this possible. And I'm grateful to Dr. Pamela Webster. 53 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:03,270 Dr. Facilitated and Ajani Dr. Annika Koestler, Dr. David Geller. 54 00:07:03,270 --> 00:07:11,890 For their kind invitation to meet. I'm particularly grateful to Mr. Gore possible venue for this very, very kind words of introduction. 55 00:07:11,890 --> 00:07:20,810 It is a very great honour. In calling the stock issues in public health in India, my intention is quite simply, 56 00:07:20,810 --> 00:07:30,140 just to identify those issues which have a bearing on the health and welfare of a very large population. 57 00:07:30,140 --> 00:07:34,580 There are many complications in this and regional variations. 58 00:07:34,580 --> 00:07:39,320 I will say something about this weather and disease burden. Health infrastructure. 59 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:49,660 Health. Human resources. And there are also many, many implications in India, given India's federal structure, 60 00:07:49,660 --> 00:07:56,140 where the primary constitutional responsibility for health care is that of the states. 61 00:07:56,140 --> 00:08:04,220 Even if a not insignificant share of public spending on health care is by the central government or. 62 00:08:04,220 --> 00:08:13,040 By state governments using funds of the central government. And clearly, these issues will need to be addressed in a sensible and coherent way. 63 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:23,170 Inefficient health systems ought to be built. Now, this talk comes at the end of a very interesting two day conference. 64 00:08:23,170 --> 00:08:30,660 On mental illness and mental health. But while there are very many critical issues. 65 00:08:30,660 --> 00:08:35,270 At the heart of a mental health policy or programme. 66 00:08:35,270 --> 00:08:45,330 It is essential that these issues are understood within the context of the health of the people, the public health context. 67 00:08:45,330 --> 00:08:54,570 There can be no mental health without public health. This would apply to other areas of discussion. 68 00:08:54,570 --> 00:09:00,930 It's very easy to go into silos and talk about malaria as the only thing that happened, 69 00:09:00,930 --> 00:09:07,500 what drove what you were closest, as though that was the only thing to address. But but that cannot be so. 70 00:09:07,500 --> 00:09:12,440 And so, as I said, there can be no mental health without public. 71 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:21,530 Now, a good place to start is to look at what has gone wrong in a recent piece entitled Archives of Failures in Global Health. 72 00:09:21,530 --> 00:09:28,790 Professor Medical Pie of the McGill University looks not at the dramatic successes with which we're all familiar, 73 00:09:28,790 --> 00:09:39,590 but at failures areas where the global health community and individual governments have been either unable or unwilling to make a difference. 74 00:09:39,590 --> 00:09:45,440 And several of these failures identified by him relate specifically to India. 75 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:52,790 These include India's failure to invest in Health India's premature declaration in 2005, 76 00:09:52,790 --> 00:10:00,670 leprosy elimination and India's failure to address child malnutrition and stunting. 77 00:10:00,670 --> 00:10:06,850 There are also situations where India is not alone, but where there is recognised shortcomings, 78 00:10:06,850 --> 00:10:13,480 such as the failure to deliver on the promises of the Alma-Ata Declaration of 1978, 79 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:22,330 the failure of the Global Malaria Eradication Programme, the failure to achieve the Millennium development goal on maternal deaths. 80 00:10:22,330 --> 00:10:26,820 The failure to address the non-communicable diseases epidemic. 81 00:10:26,820 --> 00:10:36,760 The weakening of the campaign to end AIDS by by 2030 and the failure to address global mental health. 82 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:43,120 So there are areas which are specific to India and areas where India is part of the community of nations. 83 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:54,190 But the overall team being a failure at this very sorry list gives a good outline of the range of India's public health issues. 84 00:10:54,190 --> 00:10:59,410 One very striking feature is the continued prevalence of communicable disease, 85 00:10:59,410 --> 00:11:09,780 along with the rapid increase in the spread of non-communicable diseases in a country where maternal and infant mortality are still unacceptably high. 86 00:11:09,780 --> 00:11:15,180 I mean, there are people here from many disciplines. All of you will recognise if you work on India, 87 00:11:15,180 --> 00:11:22,830 that India is forever in a stage of transition and this is more true of public health as it is with other areas. 88 00:11:22,830 --> 00:11:29,220 Several developed countries have reduced maternal and infant mortality and also brought communicable disease under control. 89 00:11:29,220 --> 00:11:34,170 This allows them the resources, the space to address the threat of non-communicable disease. 90 00:11:34,170 --> 00:11:40,500 India does not have this luxury if we have successfully eliminated smallpox and polio. 91 00:11:40,500 --> 00:11:51,090 We are still fighting malaria, tuberculosis, leprosy, aids and a string of water rather sadly called neglected tropical diseases. 92 00:11:51,090 --> 00:11:57,110 This is actually is a recognised W.H. Attempt. None of this is actually new alma mater, 93 00:11:57,110 --> 00:12:03,980 the Conference on Primary Health Care 1978 urged that governments have a responsibility for the health of their people, 94 00:12:03,980 --> 00:12:08,960 which can be fulfilled only by the provision of adequate health and social measures. 95 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,180 This was 40 years ago. 96 00:12:11,180 --> 00:12:20,960 I don't know how to recognise the importance of promoting preventive curative and rehabilitative services of nutrition and safe drinking water, 97 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:28,130 public health, education, access to drugs, immunisation, family planning, maternal and child health. 98 00:12:28,130 --> 00:12:34,640 Most importantly, it recognised the need for health, human resources and went into some detail. 99 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,480 Health workers, including physicians, nurses, midwives, 100 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:45,470 auxiliaries and community workers as applicable, as well as traditional practitioners as needed, 101 00:12:45,470 --> 00:12:54,880 suitably trained socially and technically to work as a health team and to respond to the expressed health needs of the community. 102 00:12:54,880 --> 00:13:03,330 So we've people we've known this for a while, and I think it's important to remember that this has always we know that. 103 00:13:03,330 --> 00:13:09,540 Now, I've been talking about communicable disease, the bird disease burden. 104 00:13:09,540 --> 00:13:16,170 I would like to say here the public health policy and practise in India has traditionally been driven by communal communicable disease. 105 00:13:16,170 --> 00:13:24,450 The very early developments in the public health policy related to drainage hygiene sanitation. 106 00:13:24,450 --> 00:13:28,470 Basically, the attempt being to control the spread of communicable disease. 107 00:13:28,470 --> 00:13:32,760 And there have been very significant achievements in the past and most recently in the case of polio, 108 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:40,440 where it's now been over seven years that we have not had an incidence of the wild polio virus now. 109 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:48,500 India's polio campaign was a combination of financial resources, superior technology, dedicated manpower. 110 00:13:48,500 --> 00:14:00,950 But we have not had comparable results in routine immunisation where you India figure average is still only 62 percent of approximately 20, 111 00:14:00,950 --> 00:14:08,040 somewhere between 27 and 28 million babies are born every year in India. 112 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:17,360 On 62 percent of them, get the full round of nine shots in the first nine months or double digits, so this is right. 113 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:22,740 It's it's better than what it was like so much else in India, but it's still not good enough. 114 00:14:22,740 --> 00:14:30,140 So. Malaria and other vector borne diseases as dinghy still a major public health challenge. 115 00:14:30,140 --> 00:14:40,070 We have seen a reduction in the number of cases, but 94 percent of Indians one point to five Britons are still at a risk of malaria. 116 00:14:40,070 --> 00:14:46,800 And our government has set a target of elimination of malaria by 2030. 117 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:53,070 It's a similar situation in tuberculosis, where India still contributes 25 percent of the global burden, 118 00:14:53,070 --> 00:15:01,660 with an estimated 2.8 million new cases, new cases, two point eight million new cases in 2018. 119 00:15:01,660 --> 00:15:05,680 Off this about. 120 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:14,950 2.8 billion with the new cases in 2018, the total number of persons living with tuberculosis was 28 million incidents and almost 28 million, 121 00:15:14,950 --> 00:15:21,220 about 1.4 1.5 million almost are afflicted with drug resistant tuberculosis. 122 00:15:21,220 --> 00:15:22,030 The situation, 123 00:15:22,030 --> 00:15:35,380 which has arisen almost entirely because of unregulated treatment by private providers and if India is to achieve elimination of tuberculosis by 2025. 124 00:15:35,380 --> 00:15:42,530 Which is a much publicised objective. Very much more needs to be done. 125 00:15:42,530 --> 00:15:49,560 We must also recognise the major threat of non-communicable diseases, diabetes, cardiovascular disease, cancers. 126 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,570 For many years, India, with the rest of the world, 127 00:15:51,570 --> 00:15:59,760 believed the non-communicable diseases such as hypertension and diabetes would result in inappropriate diets in high income countries, 128 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,700 and we now all know that this is not so. 129 00:16:02,700 --> 00:16:10,860 We now know more realistically the diabetes and hypertension, as also cancers and mental illness have comparatively little to do with incomes. 130 00:16:10,860 --> 00:16:15,690 Much more to do with the known risk factors of tobacco. 131 00:16:15,690 --> 00:16:22,590 The uncontrolled use of alcohol, the lack of exercise and poor diets. 132 00:16:22,590 --> 00:16:28,560 India, which moved the global mental health resolution of the World Health Assembly in 2012, 133 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:36,390 has consistently called for a recognition of the fact that mental illness must be regarded as one of the major non-communicable diseases. 134 00:16:36,390 --> 00:16:42,490 W.H.O. has now agreed to this, but this is a very recent admission. 135 00:16:42,490 --> 00:16:52,090 Approximately five percent of India's population is believed to have common mental disorder with a further 1.5 percent with severe mental disorder. 136 00:16:52,090 --> 00:17:01,330 This translates into about 80 million persons, which is a staggering number by by any account. 137 00:17:01,330 --> 00:17:09,760 In particular, while all continue, all noncommunicable ailments need continuous and regular treatment over the life course. 138 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:16,690 The stigma surrounding mental illness makes it all the more difficult for appropriate measures to be taken. 139 00:17:16,690 --> 00:17:27,700 India's Mental Health Policy of 2014 and the Mental Health Care Act of 2017 laid down very salutary principles which placed the interests 140 00:17:27,700 --> 00:17:36,670 of persons with the illness of before and not necessarily the interests of families or guardians or of treating psychiatrists. 141 00:17:36,670 --> 00:17:42,220 It is a legislation that recognises the rights of persons with the illness to appropriate treatment, 142 00:17:42,220 --> 00:17:50,690 which I believe was a very major move in a country where the rights to health care itself is not properly understood. 143 00:17:50,690 --> 00:17:56,330 Other diseases, whether communicable and non-communicable may affect smaller number of persons, 144 00:17:56,330 --> 00:18:01,370 but in a country of India's size is still add to the burden of disease. 145 00:18:01,370 --> 00:18:07,220 These include rheumatic heart disease, leprosy, thalassaemia, sickle cell anaemia, 146 00:18:07,220 --> 00:18:13,220 congenital disorders and accidental deaths, especially road traffic deaths. 147 00:18:13,220 --> 00:18:18,840 So the numbers add up very substantially. 148 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:25,500 Now, having spoken about communicable and non-communicable diseases, we need to look also at maternal and infant mortality, 149 00:18:25,500 --> 00:18:33,120 and while numbers do not tell us everything, we must still know what they are and. 150 00:18:33,120 --> 00:18:46,560 Despite its magnificent efforts, largely driven by government, maternal mortality nationwide is still at 142 deaths per 100000 births. 151 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:56,430 We were not successful in reaching the Millennium Development Goal target, 209 deaths by 2015. 152 00:18:56,430 --> 00:19:01,590 Now the sustainable development goal of this disease now requires us by 2030 to 153 00:19:01,590 --> 00:19:07,920 reduce global maternal mortality ratio to less than 70 per 100000 live births. 154 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,490 As I said, we had 142. We need to get to 70 now. 155 00:19:11,490 --> 00:19:20,430 Interestingly, many states and India have already achieved this care of 61 modest 68 promenades of 79. 156 00:19:20,430 --> 00:19:26,430 But there is also Rajasthan, a 244 interpretation 285. 157 00:19:26,430 --> 00:19:36,470 And assignment three. So whether at the national level, we will achieve the sustainable development goal. 158 00:19:36,470 --> 00:19:44,250 It's great it's out there at this point of time. Now let me also say infant mortality. 159 00:19:44,250 --> 00:19:58,170 Infant mortality requires us by 2030. Sustainable Development Goals require us to reduce by 2013 infant mortality to 12 deaths, 1000 live births. 160 00:19:58,170 --> 00:20:09,370 We are currently at thirty nine and we have 10 11 years to get from thirty nine to 12. 161 00:20:09,370 --> 00:20:17,500 As I said, we. The last published figures with 41 in 2015 is believed to be around 39 now. 162 00:20:17,500 --> 00:20:23,920 Here again, Canada is already at Rhode Island after 23 and Delhi is at 26. 163 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:30,060 But with what is 66 by reputation, 69 and asylum at 73. 164 00:20:30,060 --> 00:20:37,060 It's it's a very, very wide variation. The chances that we will meet our targets. 165 00:20:37,060 --> 00:20:47,450 Again, it's very hard to say, you know. Now, these numbers indicate the size of the challenge, but what they conceal are the details. 166 00:20:47,450 --> 00:20:52,960 It is true more women and infants are surviving the trauma of childbirth. 167 00:20:52,960 --> 00:21:00,580 But not much else is changing in their lives. Women continue to be underweight, anaemic, 168 00:21:00,580 --> 00:21:11,130 married too early or becoming mothers too early and now giving and are giving birth to underweight babies at the risk of wasting and stunting. 169 00:21:11,130 --> 00:21:16,560 The Lancet has recently called attention to the fact the malnutrition was the predominant 170 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:23,730 risk factor for death in children under five in every state of India in 2017, 171 00:21:23,730 --> 00:21:29,250 accounting for 69 68 percent of under-five total under-five deaths. 172 00:21:29,250 --> 00:21:33,540 There are. The additional details are grim. The prevalence of low birth weight in India, 173 00:21:33,540 --> 00:21:40,950 twenty one point twenty one point four percent of all births and I said so somewhere between 27 and 28 million births every year. 174 00:21:40,950 --> 00:21:52,960 Twenty one percent of these low birth weight 39 percent stunting 15 percent, wasting 59 percent anaemia in children. 175 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,510 Now. 176 00:21:56,510 --> 00:22:12,500 And many of you would know very recently, the 2019 Global Hunger Index places India to rank of 102 out of 117 countries, 102 the worst in South Asia, 177 00:22:12,500 --> 00:22:22,730 the worst in our neighbourhood Bangladesh, Pakistan, Nepal, Sri Lanka, Myanmar are all ahead of India on this list of global hunger. 178 00:22:22,730 --> 00:22:30,900 So these are these are very, very. These are very significant and important figures. 179 00:22:30,900 --> 00:22:36,540 And I can't leave the subject of disease burden without saying something about population size, 180 00:22:36,540 --> 00:22:41,820 the relationship between health policy and population policy has always been very contentious. 181 00:22:41,820 --> 00:22:48,180 And for too long. Population policy has been seen as a question of population control and is only 182 00:22:48,180 --> 00:22:54,090 relatively recently that more voices have been heard primarily from civil society, 183 00:22:54,090 --> 00:23:00,390 calling for a population policy that addresses the questions of women's health, nutritional status, 184 00:23:00,390 --> 00:23:05,670 the ability of women within families and communities to take decisions relating to themselves. 185 00:23:05,670 --> 00:23:10,590 Women's literacy in education awareness amongst both men and women. 186 00:23:10,590 --> 00:23:14,100 Of the options for family planning available to them. 187 00:23:14,100 --> 00:23:23,100 And the recognition that higher standards of primary care can impact significantly on the health of women and children. 188 00:23:23,100 --> 00:23:33,940 This also raises necessary to recognise that whatever efforts are made by India today, howsoever Heatherwick and howsoever well-funded. 189 00:23:33,940 --> 00:23:39,170 The impact will not really be felt for the next 15 or 20 years. 190 00:23:39,170 --> 00:23:43,990 India's population today stands at approximately 1.3 billion. 191 00:23:43,990 --> 00:23:51,300 And in population growth, as in communicable diseases, significant variation across the states. 192 00:23:51,300 --> 00:23:59,340 Many states have achieved replacement fertility. Fertility rate of 2.1, but many other states, which are Pradesh, Bihar, 193 00:23:59,340 --> 00:24:08,160 Jharkhand just have not reached and that do not appear likely to reach this anytime soon. 194 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:13,580 More positively, it's not. In the 70 odd years since independence, 195 00:24:13,580 --> 00:24:23,630 life expectancy has increased significantly from twenty six at independence to seventy point three for women and sixty six point nine for men today. 196 00:24:23,630 --> 00:24:30,320 So it is, it is. It is an achievement that we must we must recognise. 197 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:38,740 There's another there's another caveat to be made here, which is that in a country of our size, there's a real danger. 198 00:24:38,740 --> 00:24:46,690 That not just about size, but with a population that has such unequal access to resources. 199 00:24:46,690 --> 00:24:52,900 There is a real danger that we concentrate only on the diseases of the urban population or the relatively better off 200 00:24:52,900 --> 00:25:01,970 sections of the population or persons who can have access to care or persons who are in a position to pay for care. 201 00:25:01,970 --> 00:25:05,690 It is possible that the diseases of those persons who were unable to access 202 00:25:05,690 --> 00:25:13,020 health care or falling outside the area of interest of health policy makers. 203 00:25:13,020 --> 00:25:22,640 Now, Professor Fine's list of failures significantly also highlights India's failure to invest in health care. 204 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:33,950 Most discussions on the subject will tell will cite this fact that as against the ultimate objective of three percent of the GDP to health care, 205 00:25:33,950 --> 00:25:38,440 India has never gone beyond one point one percent. 206 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:48,100 Now, there are several important writers. Expenditure as a percentage of GDP is both by the centre and by the states do traditionally, 207 00:25:48,100 --> 00:25:54,550 as I said earlier this evening, it is simply a government that has made substantial contributions. 208 00:25:54,550 --> 00:26:01,210 Now this expenditure includes the cost of maintaining hospitals, the salaries of doctors and nurses, 209 00:26:01,210 --> 00:26:12,160 and expenditures borne almost entirely by the states, who do not generally find it easier to generate significant resources of their own. 210 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:20,720 The ability of state governments to generate resources through taxation is somewhat limited. 211 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:28,550 It's also necessary to look again to look at the details, it's not enough to say so much percent of GDP. 212 00:26:28,550 --> 00:26:37,280 How are these public expenditures divided across infrastructure, human resources, hospital care, public health, medical education, medical research? 213 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,150 Each of these would require a formidable level of investment, 214 00:26:41,150 --> 00:26:46,370 and the tendency has been both for the government of India and for the states to look for low hanging fruit, 215 00:26:46,370 --> 00:26:51,380 such as the construction of hospital buildings or the purchase of expensive equipment, 216 00:26:51,380 --> 00:26:58,460 rather than the more time consuming efforts involved in investing in the education of nurses or public health workers, 217 00:26:58,460 --> 00:27:10,000 or on clinical and health research. Now, most of the issues health care financing are quite well known, 218 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:18,400 but I would like to say something about India's current policy as reflected in the scheme known as the Iceman part, 219 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:24,580 predominantly General George or the Prime Minister's Healthy India programme. 220 00:27:24,580 --> 00:27:32,540 This there is there is a huge, widely publicised, social media driven campaign promoting this broken. 221 00:27:32,540 --> 00:27:41,630 But it is necessary not to be diverted by the by the glitz and to look at actual and projected achievements. 222 00:27:41,630 --> 00:27:48,350 Now, this scheme, the PMG White, has two components. 223 00:27:48,350 --> 00:27:53,450 The first is an insurance based hospital care scheme, 224 00:27:53,450 --> 00:28:02,000 persons enrolled under the PM G-A-Y are entitled to seek treatment with empanelled government and private hospitals. 225 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:07,610 The payment for which up to a maximum of five hundred thousand rupees five lakh rupees 226 00:28:07,610 --> 00:28:16,740 per year for any one of 1350 packages for which rates have been negotiated with the BMJ. 227 00:28:16,740 --> 00:28:26,890 Why people? Now, this is the broad principle on which many health insurance schemes function, including the rest, 228 00:28:26,890 --> 00:28:34,290 she has lost the Bima Yojana, which India launched in 2008 and is now, for all practical purposes, abandoned. 229 00:28:34,290 --> 00:28:40,230 Now, but under BMG BMJ, which, as I said, five blacks per year. 230 00:28:40,230 --> 00:28:44,280 Thirteen hundred and fifty packages with rates of negotiated. 231 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:51,360 The latest figures are that four point forty six million persons have received cashless treatment in over eighteen thousand hospitals. 232 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:56,920 And while figures are frequently released on the numbers of claims settled with hospitals, 233 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:03,580 information is not necessarily forthcoming on improved health outcomes even. 234 00:29:03,580 --> 00:29:09,760 Now, there are many, many difficulties in this insurance based model where it is the government's 235 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:14,590 intention to negotiate the lowest possible rates for the prescribed treatments. 236 00:29:14,590 --> 00:29:19,040 It is the endeavour of private hospitals to increase these as much as they can. 237 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:23,810 And while it's clear that even where negotiated rates have been announced, 238 00:29:23,810 --> 00:29:31,450 private hospitals will render only as much treatment as they believe they can afford to within the negotiated rates. 239 00:29:31,450 --> 00:29:37,190 They are not about to start losing money for the sake of my health. 240 00:29:37,190 --> 00:29:44,540 Another very serious problem with PM G-A-Y is that it only supports cases of hospital admission, 241 00:29:44,540 --> 00:29:52,800 ignoring the fact that a substantial number of cases could conveniently be dealt with in the outpatient wards. 242 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:59,880 Indeed. In these cases, hospitalisation probably brings on a range of unrelated additional costs. 243 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:07,410 Loss of wage for the for the family member who is accompanying the patient and stuff like this. 244 00:30:07,410 --> 00:30:11,830 And these are costs that insurance will not cover. 245 00:30:11,830 --> 00:30:20,680 The costs of food being eaten by the attendance of the patient, all or none of these are people covered by insurance. 246 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:30,250 And there is also the issue of useless hospitalisation and useless surgeries being performed only in return for the insurance, 247 00:30:30,250 --> 00:30:33,160 which is available on such procedures. 248 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:42,710 Now, all this leads to the suspicion that the scheme has been designed primarily to make use of unused capacity in private hospitals. 249 00:30:42,710 --> 00:30:52,700 Interestingly, a recent article authored by the two senior most civil servants in the health establishment relates with some pride that more than half 250 00:30:52,700 --> 00:31:02,760 the hospitals empanelled under the scheme are private and that private hospitals have witnessed a 20 percent increase in footfall. 251 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:10,200 And these persons thought that this was something that needed to be publicised, and, as I said, with great pride. 252 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:15,930 Now I said there were two parts to the NGO. I said this insurance based hospital treatment is one part. 253 00:31:15,930 --> 00:31:19,710 The other part is the establishment of health and wellness centres. 254 00:31:19,710 --> 00:31:26,490 This really appears to be a programme for upgrading and strengthening existing sub centres and primary health centres. 255 00:31:26,490 --> 00:31:33,940 12 services have been identified, which these wellness centres are expected to provide over. 256 00:31:33,940 --> 00:31:41,410 I mean, I'm like somewhat limited range of services currently provided. Now, in an ideal situation, 257 00:31:41,410 --> 00:31:46,630 this this part of the programme would have an address based on your understanding of the bulk 258 00:31:46,630 --> 00:31:51,490 of people's health concerns would have been taken care of within the umbrella of primary care, 259 00:31:51,490 --> 00:32:01,420 with only more complicated cases being referred to a second judicial level where, if necessary, costs could be covered by insurance. 260 00:32:01,420 --> 00:32:04,330 However, it's being done in the reverse. 261 00:32:04,330 --> 00:32:12,490 So the whole focus is on insurance base hospital treatment and less of the focus is on creating of these new health and wellness centres. 262 00:32:12,490 --> 00:32:17,800 And there's also very little information about how these wellness centres are doing. 263 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:24,070 We know that there are over 24000 primary health centres that are lacking 56000 sub centres. 264 00:32:24,070 --> 00:32:33,670 But the only information I was able to find is that more than 20000 wellness centres have been established now. 265 00:32:33,670 --> 00:32:37,010 It is also not clear whether. 266 00:32:37,010 --> 00:32:44,120 How these wellness centres, even the ones that are supposed to been established, have addressed the problems of inadequate human resources, 267 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:49,970 the limited availability of drugs, disposables, generally poor maintenance, 268 00:32:49,970 --> 00:32:54,410 the ecosystem in which the wellness centres are to function remains the same. 269 00:32:54,410 --> 00:33:00,550 And it is not clear that renaming them has effectively solved anything. 270 00:33:00,550 --> 00:33:05,420 There is also the more fundamental question of who should pay for health care. 271 00:33:05,420 --> 00:33:15,560 Having an insurance system still requires substantial amounts of government funds to be paid out as insurance premium for on population cover. 272 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:25,950 There is no sign in any of the annual budgets since the scheme was launched of the increased funding that would be necessary to make the scheme work. 273 00:33:25,950 --> 00:33:35,130 Even the chief executive of The BMJ, why one of the two people who was talking about increased footfall in a much publicised interview admitted 274 00:33:35,130 --> 00:33:43,410 that he hoped India's investment in health care would reach two point five percent of GDP by 2025, 275 00:33:43,410 --> 00:33:49,800 of which only a small amount would come to PM's. You know, if government has not budgeted for the insurance claims, 276 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:55,260 which would be received if it is not budgeted for the operation of the wellness centres. 277 00:33:55,260 --> 00:33:59,550 It is not at all clear how this is expected to function. 278 00:33:59,550 --> 00:34:08,130 It is also not clear why if the government has the resources or plans to have the resources to pay the insurance companies, 279 00:34:08,130 --> 00:34:12,750 why these funds could not be used to strengthen existing systems or to better equip 280 00:34:12,750 --> 00:34:18,180 them to function or to ensure the reliable presence at all times of trained health, 281 00:34:18,180 --> 00:34:29,060 human resources and public facilities. So these are all big and up to now unanswered questions. 282 00:34:29,060 --> 00:34:36,200 Human resources and the availability of well-trained and suitably motivated human resources remains. 283 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:43,160 One of the most challenging issues in public health in India, the requirement is huge weather of doctors with the first degree. 284 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,550 So for specialists, doctors with both parties. Qualifications. 285 00:34:46,550 --> 00:34:55,160 Nurses, allied health professionals, public health workers and each of these categories is a crisis situation in itself. 286 00:34:55,160 --> 00:35:03,020 As for the most recent information, the Medical Council of India, of which more or none has approved the award of MBBS, 287 00:35:03,020 --> 00:35:07,850 the first degree eight thousand three hundred twelve seats every year, 288 00:35:07,850 --> 00:35:13,860 of which slightly over 50 percent are in government colleges, the remainder being in private colleges. 289 00:35:13,860 --> 00:35:21,270 Everything to do with the establishment of medical colleges or the conduct of the Medical Council of India needs to be looked at very carefully, 290 00:35:21,270 --> 00:35:28,830 and the council itself has very recently been abolished with something called the National Medical Commission having taken its place. 291 00:35:28,830 --> 00:35:34,080 Now, a very large number of medical graduates are clearly being produced every year, 292 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:39,030 but it's unclear how many of these are actually available for public service. 293 00:35:39,030 --> 00:35:43,560 It's also true that there's a very wide variation in the quality of these gadgets. 294 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,610 Those leaving government medical colleges are generally regarded as being better 295 00:35:47,610 --> 00:35:51,690 trained and while there are outstanding institutions of medical education, 296 00:35:51,690 --> 00:35:58,980 the private sector such as the Christian Medical College in Vellore. Most of them do not have the same reputation. 297 00:35:58,980 --> 00:36:02,670 They survive on the strength of high fee structures, 298 00:36:02,670 --> 00:36:10,180 a feature which does not appear to be a deterrent given the very high status accorded to doctors in India. 299 00:36:10,180 --> 00:36:17,020 The fact, however, is that a student graduated from a private college howsoever well or badly trained is not going to be 300 00:36:17,020 --> 00:36:25,750 available for public service if she is to repay the debts she has incurred in acquiring a medical education. 301 00:36:25,750 --> 00:36:35,860 Issues of medical curriculum and syllabus were not given adequate attention by the erstwhile Medical Council of India before its unlamented demise. 302 00:36:35,860 --> 00:36:39,070 And the same is true of nursing education. 303 00:36:39,070 --> 00:36:47,410 As per most recent information, the Nursing Council of India, which for some peculiar reason has not been abolished and continues to function. 304 00:36:47,410 --> 00:36:52,180 There are 1630 colleges for the training of midwives, 305 00:36:52,180 --> 00:36:58,150 almost three thousand colleges with the training of staff members and seventeen hundred colleges with the training of graduate nurses. 306 00:36:58,150 --> 00:37:05,410 The overwhelming majority of these are privately owned and a very, very indeterminate quality. 307 00:37:05,410 --> 00:37:12,970 Not enough positions have been created by state governments for nurses, many of whom look for employment opportunities abroad. 308 00:37:12,970 --> 00:37:19,670 The nursing council also has regulatory control over the training of midwives and then shamefully neglected area. 309 00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:23,660 Now, it's not all grim on the positive side. 310 00:37:23,660 --> 00:37:31,820 There is legislation currently pending the Allied Health Care Professions Bill, the Allied and Health Care Professions voted gene, 311 00:37:31,820 --> 00:37:38,000 which aims to define and regulate the conduct and training allied health professionals, 312 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:45,410 defined as an associate technician or technologist, trained to support the diagnosis and treatment of any illness, disease, etc. 313 00:37:45,410 --> 00:37:51,500 The bill also lists 15 categories of professionals with 53 specific professions. 314 00:37:51,500 --> 00:38:02,060 Now, this was a long overdue exercise, but it is still pending in parliament, and we have no idea where the parliament will at any stage approve this. 315 00:38:02,060 --> 00:38:08,330 There's also I was also mentioned the National Medical Commission bill, which is just been passed by. 316 00:38:08,330 --> 00:38:16,730 The Medical Commission exists as enliven the debates on health human resources considerably by introducing 317 00:38:16,730 --> 00:38:23,300 absolutely at the last minute a provision for the creation of a category of worker called community health worker. 318 00:38:23,300 --> 00:38:33,470 Now there is considerable. Anguish, really of this, because there's nothing which tells us where this person will come from, 319 00:38:33,470 --> 00:38:41,840 what kind of training this person should have, what duties this government health worker will perform or any of these things. 320 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:46,600 But it just gives the government under a kind of. 321 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:57,340 Omnibus section. Actually, it could really enable government to appoint anyone they want as a as a community health worker. 322 00:38:57,340 --> 00:39:07,600 So this is something to look out for now in identifying these three big areas of disease burden, financial resources and human resources. 323 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:14,140 I've still followed what might be called a hospital driven approach to health care. 324 00:39:14,140 --> 00:39:25,830 How differently do we need to think? If we are talking of public health policy for India now, one of India's better known public health specialists, 325 00:39:25,830 --> 00:39:36,900 You're Not Ready has recently called attention to six key elements of health system identified by W.H.O. Healthcare Infrastructure Health Workforce. 326 00:39:36,900 --> 00:39:47,750 The availability of. A. I'm sorry, the availability of drugs and technologies, the level and use of health financing, 327 00:39:47,750 --> 00:39:51,800 health information systems and the overall governance of health services, 328 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:57,890 and that already makes the important point that these six elements identified by W.H.O. do 329 00:39:57,890 --> 00:40:05,070 not include the role of the community in driving adequate demand for adequate health care. 330 00:40:05,070 --> 00:40:14,440 Now. It is still common in India for public health to be understood as basically concerned 331 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:18,550 with hygiene and sanitation and controlling the spread of communicable disease, 332 00:40:18,550 --> 00:40:24,030 but. One can think of a more useful definition, 333 00:40:24,030 --> 00:40:29,640 and we could more usefully understand public health or public health policy is the 334 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:37,590 establishment of a viable and functioning primary health care system serving the community, 335 00:40:37,590 --> 00:40:46,770 which takes into its fold all matters relating to the health and welfare of the public, including preventive measures, appropriate nutrition, 336 00:40:46,770 --> 00:40:56,360 well-functioning drinking water and sanitation systems for all members of the public, and particularly for women and children over their life course. 337 00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:04,050 I made this up, this isn't from someone very grand, it is or this is not W.H.O. or anything, but this seemed to me. 338 00:41:04,050 --> 00:41:13,680 A definition would take some which takes in all the essential elements of what public health ought to be covers all the relevant issues, 339 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:19,620 the prevention of communicable diseases, the treatment of non-communicable diseases over the life course, the need for government investment, 340 00:41:19,620 --> 00:41:22,890 the need for qualified persons at all levels, the role of the community. 341 00:41:22,890 --> 00:41:31,590 Now all this, by the way, you said in India's National Health Policy of 2017, the policy actually says more. 342 00:41:31,590 --> 00:41:35,040 He talks about traditional systems of medicine, 343 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:46,470 but as in the case of much of India's policy and legislative statements and much more statements of aspiration than of commitment. 344 00:41:46,470 --> 00:41:51,240 And it's also important it's not also just a question of resources. 345 00:41:51,240 --> 00:41:56,340 Nothing can be done without resources, but resources without the necessary motivation. 346 00:41:56,340 --> 00:42:07,350 Political will and executive ability will also not deliver satisfactory health outcomes. 347 00:42:07,350 --> 00:42:13,160 I. I must, however, call attention. 348 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:17,600 To several remarkable civil society interventions. 349 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:27,110 Which in their motivation, work on the ground reflect the best elements of what I have defined as a public health policy. 350 00:42:27,110 --> 00:42:31,070 I think here about your guest gene and his colleagues at the Johns Fosters. 351 00:42:31,070 --> 00:42:33,950 A yoga instructor is good in the heart of India. 352 00:42:33,950 --> 00:42:41,420 The Jazz says runs a hospital which provides a very high quality of care to a large and vulnerable population. 353 00:42:41,420 --> 00:42:48,870 I am grateful to Dr. Jain for always calling my attention to what he describes as the diseases of the very poor. 354 00:42:48,870 --> 00:42:54,270 I think also Dr. Vandana will pick them up and her colleagues at the Banyan in Chennai, 355 00:42:54,270 --> 00:43:02,460 an organisation that has worked for 25 years now with homeless women with mental illness in India to be female, 356 00:43:02,460 --> 00:43:06,360 poor and sick is to be very vulnerable indeed. 357 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:14,840 And it isn't the work of the Banyan that one sees a combination of professional excellence and compassionate imagination. 358 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,710 I must also mention to institutions for children with disability. 359 00:43:18,710 --> 00:43:27,810 But I think our Roy Foundation and the room done by the remarkable George, Oprah and Vidyasagar in Chennai set up by Poonam Natarajan. 360 00:43:27,810 --> 00:43:36,170 I was also mentioning the Cancer Institute area in Chennai run by the remarkable Doctor Santa. 361 00:43:36,170 --> 00:43:45,710 Then there is my friend, Dr. Amar Rajagopal of Pallium India in Trivandrum, an organisation devoted to establishing palliative care services. 362 00:43:45,710 --> 00:43:53,810 Now these institutions and many, many more that I have not mentioned are marked and are distinctive in many ways. 363 00:43:53,810 --> 00:44:00,730 But most importantly, by the human and ethical quality of the individuals behind them. 364 00:44:00,730 --> 00:44:04,750 And while this gives these institutions that distinction, 365 00:44:04,750 --> 00:44:14,410 it also makes it ask the question of what one we expect from institutions which are not guided by a hugely charismatic figure. 366 00:44:14,410 --> 00:44:23,070 Government does not believe in charisma. But yet it is government's responsibility to fund and manage health care institutions. 367 00:44:23,070 --> 00:44:32,530 The best examples we have in India are in the non-profit sector and where and how are we going to bring about a meeting between these? 368 00:44:32,530 --> 00:44:39,670 India's experience in tackling the AIDS epidemic stands as one possible way in which this coming 369 00:44:39,670 --> 00:44:49,060 together of both the public and the private sector and their respective strengths came to the fore and. 370 00:44:49,060 --> 00:44:52,690 The National AIDS Control Programme, and if you want to pay for all of them, 371 00:44:52,690 --> 00:44:59,620 demonstrated how significantly community involvement can impact on the efficacy of health investments. 372 00:44:59,620 --> 00:45:05,530 My distinguished friend and my one time boss, Sujata wrote in her book Do We Care? 373 00:45:05,530 --> 00:45:13,090 Makes the point that India showed the capacity to respond to a situation which required not only clinical intervention, 374 00:45:13,090 --> 00:45:16,920 but also changes in societal attitudes. 375 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:23,850 For possibly the first time, issues of sexuality and sexual orientation were brought into the public discourse, 376 00:45:23,850 --> 00:45:30,580 with the recognition of the fact that behavioural change needed to drive India's response to controlling the epidemic, 377 00:45:30,580 --> 00:45:36,390 India's national AIDS control programmes will always be remembered for their pioneering efforts. 378 00:45:36,390 --> 00:45:43,560 Since 2014, however, ostensibly because the prevalence of AIDS in India has reduced and also because the government of 379 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:49,320 the day believes that abstinence is a more appropriate response to sexually transmitted diseases. 380 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:56,200 Public investment in AIDS in AIDS control has declined. And this is a very worrying situation. 381 00:45:56,200 --> 00:46:02,000 But I'd like to. Sort of bring this to an end. 382 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:11,840 And. What I would like to see in conclusion, is that public health is about social justice. 383 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:18,600 The Sustainable Development Goals recognise, and in their different areas, they target inequality. 384 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:26,100 But it is also true that even with substantial progress has been made towards achieving the Sustainable Development Goals, 385 00:46:26,100 --> 00:46:34,680 gaps between countries and between communities within countries continue to rise enormously. 386 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:42,930 The distinguished psychiatrist and public health practitioner, Bikram Patel, his edge and I quote from something that Kim wrote. 387 00:46:42,930 --> 00:46:53,510 Inequality corrodes the fabric of a society that is crucial for all people to feel that they belong to it and have a stake in a shared future. 388 00:46:53,510 --> 00:46:58,070 Social scientists refer to this connectedness as social capital. 389 00:46:58,070 --> 00:47:05,330 It acts as an invisible glue that binds us all together. Both rich and poor through good times and bad. 390 00:47:05,330 --> 00:47:13,190 It is this communion of hearts and minds which promotes individual and ultimately societal will be ensured. 391 00:47:13,190 --> 00:47:23,420 Inequality destroys the soul of nations, of societies, of communities and ultimately of every individual's well-being. 392 00:47:23,420 --> 00:47:32,150 And when Uncle Nolan, when government's aim at making quality health care accessible and affordable, when they strive in the words of Alma Typekit, 393 00:47:32,150 --> 00:47:41,460 the provision of adequate health and social measures, they work towards removing inequalities that is at the core of good governance and the D. 394 00:47:41,460 --> 00:47:44,360 And these noble thoughts have been read say to very recently, 395 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:50,990 even in the United Nations General Assembly high level resolution of last month, 23rd September 2019, 396 00:47:50,990 --> 00:47:54,440 using almost the same words as our motto, 397 00:47:54,440 --> 00:48:05,430 everything lies with national governments and the context of today's address India's government and its ability to show leadership. 398 00:48:05,430 --> 00:48:13,140 And ownership in establishing effective health governs its ability to promote access to safe, 399 00:48:13,140 --> 00:48:18,090 effective, quality and affordable essential medicines and vaccines. 400 00:48:18,090 --> 00:48:27,030 Do you invest in adequate, sustainable resources to invest in education, recruitment and retention of a fit for purpose, 401 00:48:27,030 --> 00:48:35,620 public health workforce and to address the social, environmental and economic determinants of health and health and equity? 402 00:48:35,620 --> 00:48:42,800 These are monumental challenges. But they are of great importance to all who care for the future of India. 403 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:49,962 Thank you.