1 00:00:05,370 --> 00:00:12,150 Good evening, everyone, welcome to Middle East Centre. My name is Michael Wilson and the director of Middle East Centre, 2 00:00:12,150 --> 00:00:22,560 and it gives me pleasure to introduce you to the eighth and final Friday seminar series of Hillary term. 3 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:32,820 Thank you. Welcome to all of you joining us here in Oxford to welcome to everybody who's joining us online, our friends and colleagues elsewhere. 4 00:00:32,820 --> 00:00:40,950 This is the last of the series this term, and for the last two weeks of the seminar series, we focussed on crises in the region, 5 00:00:40,950 --> 00:00:52,290 but regrettably rather fallen away from the public eye, despite the fact that they are very regrettably very much ongoing conflicts and crises. 6 00:00:52,290 --> 00:01:03,780 Recent events in Eastern Europe, of course, have only pushed discussion and coverage of events even further from the international attention. 7 00:01:03,780 --> 00:01:11,880 But at the time, at the same time, I think they are also remind us in a very reminiscent of the crises. 8 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,480 Indeed, as those of you who came to our events on last week, 9 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:23,610 there were clear parallels between what is going on in Eastern Europe and what is going on in the two countries we're looking at. 10 00:01:23,610 --> 00:01:31,290 Last week we looked at Syria this week where we looking at Yemen with four and perhaps even 11 00:01:31,290 --> 00:01:39,340 since the events in Ukraine represented the biggest humanitarian crisis on the planet. 12 00:01:39,340 --> 00:01:44,820 And despite this fact, Yemen has not attracted the attention and the coverage deserves. 13 00:01:44,820 --> 00:01:49,750 I know where Middle East sentiment coverage as much as we should. 14 00:01:49,750 --> 00:01:57,490 Now, much of this neglect is attributed to the fact or certainly to the argument that there's a relative dearth of people 15 00:01:57,490 --> 00:02:04,900 with specialist knowledge of the country outside of Yemen and therefore very pleased to have us with this head tonight, 16 00:02:04,900 --> 00:02:09,100 someone who is a genuine expert on Yemen. But moreover, is in doubt. 17 00:02:09,100 --> 00:02:16,690 Oddly, the leading expert on Yemen in the UK, a good and long standing friend of the Middle East Centre, 18 00:02:16,690 --> 00:02:21,430 Helen Lackner, has worked on and written on Yemen for nearly 50 years. 19 00:02:21,430 --> 00:02:30,790 She has written and coached, edited no fewer than six books on Yemen, including most recently Why Yemen Matters in 2014 Yemen in Crisis. 20 00:02:30,790 --> 00:02:35,260 The Road to War in 2019, which is a new edition, is coming out this summer. 21 00:02:35,260 --> 00:02:40,570 Yes. Yeah. And also later this year, Yemen poverty and conflict. 22 00:02:40,570 --> 00:02:48,220 So we really have a speaker who is uniquely qualified to talk about the ongoing crisis in Yemen. 23 00:02:48,220 --> 00:02:54,010 Helen has a number of his books I mentioned. I think you have copies of all available, if you will be interested. 24 00:02:54,010 --> 00:03:00,460 Last chance, last chance to get them zaharias and presumably signed by the author if necessary. 25 00:03:00,460 --> 00:03:04,720 Yes, right? But therefore, with no further ado, Alan. 26 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:12,310 OK. Good evening. Thank you very much for coming and competing with all the other events that are happening locally. 27 00:03:12,310 --> 00:03:16,720 Let alone getting away from the latest news on Ukraine. 28 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:22,570 I just want to say one thing about Ukraine as we are all flooded at every news bulletin from the 29 00:03:22,570 --> 00:03:29,170 beginning to the end with dreadful human interest stories and how awful it all is for the Ukrainians. 30 00:03:29,170 --> 00:03:38,530 I think people suggest just trying the case just simply change the name from Ukraine to Syria and Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, 31 00:03:38,530 --> 00:03:46,690 Congo and maybe a few others, and realise that all those people are suffering just as badly and have done for a lot longer. 32 00:03:46,690 --> 00:03:52,000 If you look at the death toll in Congo, I mean, it's beyond belief. Over the last 20 years. 33 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:56,980 So I won't go on because, you know, this is a an incredibly sad topic. 34 00:03:56,980 --> 00:04:01,960 And as far as I'm concerned, nothing further will be said on this topic tonight. 35 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:07,780 Very briefly, I want to go over a few dates and somehow there's a few anniversaries. 36 00:04:07,780 --> 00:04:11,950 One of them that really shocked me a couple of weeks ago that we shouldn't have done, 37 00:04:11,950 --> 00:04:22,630 which marked the fact that Abdul Jabbar Mansur Hadi has now been president of the internationally recognised government for 10 years. 38 00:04:22,630 --> 00:04:27,670 Now, that isn't immediately apparent from the way he has governed the place or what he has done there. 39 00:04:27,670 --> 00:04:31,270 But I thought this worth noting. I think it's also worth noting, 40 00:04:31,270 --> 00:04:43,390 given the earlier talks in the last term in particular that now are in the 11th year after a very major set of popular uprisings took place in Yemen, 41 00:04:43,390 --> 00:04:51,250 and they were partly involved in the resulting war, which has taken place since. 42 00:04:51,250 --> 00:05:00,670 I think also, you know, 2014 was the year the Houthis Saleh put a coalition or whatever alliance took over summer, 43 00:05:00,670 --> 00:05:08,140 which lasted for three years, because by December 17, the Houthis killed Saleh, and that was quite an important thing. 44 00:05:08,140 --> 00:05:12,370 And then there's two sets of agreements that have been signed or something 45 00:05:12,370 --> 00:05:17,470 that have taken place with one of them was actually never signed since then. 46 00:05:17,470 --> 00:05:20,260 That was supposed to contribute to peace. 47 00:05:20,260 --> 00:05:28,990 And they are the Stockholm Agreement in December 2018, which was not signed, and that he had agreement in 2019, 48 00:05:28,990 --> 00:05:38,830 which was supposed to bring about peace and cooperation between the internationally recognised government and the Southern Transitional Council, 49 00:05:38,830 --> 00:05:42,430 which is one of the southern separatist organisations. 50 00:05:42,430 --> 00:05:55,270 And the last anniversary is that later this month, we will have the seventh anniversary of the internal internationalisation of the Yemeni Civil War, 51 00:05:55,270 --> 00:06:01,510 which means that the suffering and killing in Yemen has now been going on for a full seven years. 52 00:06:01,510 --> 00:06:08,700 So I think this is kind of something that I thought was probably good to start with. 53 00:06:08,700 --> 00:06:14,800 Now, very briefly, because I don't know to what extent people here are familiar with Yemen or not, 54 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:19,740 so I may be saying things that people know too well, and maybe some of us don't. 55 00:06:19,740 --> 00:06:24,360 I want to start by saying who is fighting whom and who is involved in the war. 56 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:29,670 So basically, we have on one side, the internationally recognised government of Hadi, 57 00:06:29,670 --> 00:06:37,470 which is officially based in Aden with most of its main ministers, are sitting in Riyadh and a few elsewhere. 58 00:06:37,470 --> 00:06:44,700 And it is supported by what's known as the Saudi led coalition, which is indeed Saudi led. 59 00:06:44,700 --> 00:06:49,020 But where the UAE is playing a major role, 60 00:06:49,020 --> 00:06:55,050 I think the UAE until very recently had a successful public relations operation by 61 00:06:55,050 --> 00:07:01,920 letting it be called always the Saudi led coalition and keeping in the background, 62 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:08,670 whereas in fact their involvement has been, if not as intense as that of the Saudis. 63 00:07:08,670 --> 00:07:19,840 It's also very important, and they also amongst the major decision makers on the outside of Yemen, and they are fighting the Houthis now the Houthis. 64 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:25,150 Sailor, who lives as I've just explained, but since December 2017, 65 00:07:25,150 --> 00:07:35,770 it is exclusively the Houthis and the Houthis do not only have a very strong and strengthening military capacity, 66 00:07:35,770 --> 00:07:43,960 but they are now ruling and governing and they are indeed governing and they are indeed governing in a particularly unpleasant manner. 67 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:54,670 But that doesn't stop it from being real. About 70 percent of the Yemeni people now there are other groups involved in the war and that. 68 00:07:54,670 --> 00:08:02,620 One who is led by Patrick Saleh, who is the nephew of ex-President Ali Abdullah and who has his own forces, 69 00:08:02,620 --> 00:08:08,380 which were previously mainly in the West Coast and have recently moved elsewhere. 70 00:08:08,380 --> 00:08:17,080 The Southern Transitional Council, which is one of these southern separatist movements and which is dominant for various reasons 71 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:22,210 which we could go into later in question time and then various other regional groupings. 72 00:08:22,210 --> 00:08:28,300 They are the Tehama front and various other southern groups, etc. in the background. 73 00:08:28,300 --> 00:08:36,190 And all of these are militarily in the hands of arms trade, which is extremely important, 74 00:08:36,190 --> 00:08:44,170 also diplomatically and also to some extent, tactically with with intelligence information available. 75 00:08:44,170 --> 00:08:51,280 Basically, the US, the UK, France and other Western states who are opposing the Iranians, 76 00:08:51,280 --> 00:09:01,480 who are providing some technical assistance and some sophisticated weaponry to the Houthis and in the background 77 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:09,880 also maybe sometimes from the United Nations and women who are trying to mediate and bring about peace. 78 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:19,150 So that's it. So militarily, very briefly, the current situation is that there's basically a stalemate. 79 00:09:19,150 --> 00:09:28,960 There's been a stalemate now for many years. There's occasional moments when something's changed in the in the second half of last year, 80 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:37,690 the Houthis appear to be making massive progress in their attack on my head, which had now been going on for two years. 81 00:09:37,690 --> 00:09:43,780 But they were then repelled in November December by the arrival of some other troops from elsewhere. 82 00:09:43,780 --> 00:09:53,870 So basically, one has a situation where the movement military movement is not that significant up to now. 83 00:09:53,870 --> 00:10:03,830 You have, you know, the the focus on the fighting for quite a long time in the last few years has been around Marib at the moment this month, 84 00:10:03,830 --> 00:10:08,270 it appears not to be. That doesn't mean that it won't be next month. 85 00:10:08,270 --> 00:10:13,760 So these things are changing very regularly, and I'm not sure we want to go. 86 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:19,640 Another issue that needs to be addressed is the ongoing struggle between the 87 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,840 Southern Transitional Council and the internationally recognised government. 88 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:30,830 Now that again actually has a fair amount of stalemate in the terms of physical control. 89 00:10:30,830 --> 00:10:41,590 But it's so it's at least as active in terms of and constant skirmishes and conflict as the situation around Marib. 90 00:10:41,590 --> 00:10:48,190 Now to talk about negotiations and peace, which is something that people do hear about, 91 00:10:48,190 --> 00:10:56,140 and we have every month a meeting of the United Nations Security Council that addresses Yemen, where the United, 92 00:10:56,140 --> 00:11:04,810 the special envoy speaks and usually the humanitarian person speaks and sometimes somebody when a 93 00:11:04,810 --> 00:11:12,580 person who is employed or who is connected with the United Nations Hodeidah agreement and speaks, 94 00:11:12,580 --> 00:11:23,110 and they basically always deplore the lack of progress of it's worth pointing out that we now have a new U.N. special envoy since last August, 95 00:11:23,110 --> 00:11:31,600 who was previously the special envoy, the ambassador to Yemen of the European Union. 96 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:42,340 He has taken a different approach from his predecessor, who himself had not achieved very much, to put it mildly. 97 00:11:42,340 --> 00:11:52,600 In his three years of tenure, but thanks to his great success, he's now been appointed the chief of the whole humanitarian situation in the UN system. 98 00:11:52,600 --> 00:12:01,960 So while this is basically no significant progress has taken place in terms of ending the fighting and very 99 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:10,900 few people who are familiar with Yemen are expecting any significant progress in in any kind of a hurry. 100 00:12:10,900 --> 00:12:20,710 It's worth asking why isn't this war ending? And I think of basically three or two reasons and the third, which is the conclusion, 101 00:12:20,710 --> 00:12:24,880 which is first, that the fighting groups still think they can win. 102 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:31,930 The WHO says if they think of where they were in 2000 or even where they were in 2010, 103 00:12:31,930 --> 00:12:43,660 when the last war against Saleh took place and where they are today can see a clear upward trend of increasing power and increasing control, 104 00:12:43,660 --> 00:12:52,240 and therefore they are not inclined to to basically to withdraw or to give in. 105 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:53,530 And on the other hand, 106 00:12:53,530 --> 00:13:03,790 the internationally recognised government is in a position where if it if it agrees to any serious changes to any serious peace, 107 00:13:03,790 --> 00:13:08,290 it will instantly and automatically sign this death warrant. 108 00:13:08,290 --> 00:13:14,860 And therefore, it's not about to do that. On the other hand, at the same, we'll have at the same time, 109 00:13:14,860 --> 00:13:24,100 because do you have a situation in which there are a small number of war profiteers who are doing extremely well out of this war? 110 00:13:24,100 --> 00:13:30,670 And they are not only people who are trading in weapons and such objects that very much. 111 00:13:30,670 --> 00:13:39,100 One of the big focus of this fighting of the profiteering is connected with fuel and fuel supply. 112 00:13:39,100 --> 00:13:43,090 And that's a very long and complicated scene that I won't go into. 113 00:13:43,090 --> 00:13:49,180 But I think it's something that I always say it is that it is shocking and 114 00:13:49,180 --> 00:13:55,090 shameful and any as strong a word as anybody can think of to look at the complete 115 00:13:55,090 --> 00:14:01,450 indifference that all these warmongers have to the conditions and disastrous 116 00:14:01,450 --> 00:14:06,820 living conditions of the vast majority of the Yemeni population and those, 117 00:14:06,820 --> 00:14:18,490 you know, repeating it doesn't change it. Unfortunately, now, because of the military war has not been and any sense and roaring success. 118 00:14:18,490 --> 00:14:26,080 The internationally recognised government has basically developed and started a financial and economic 119 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:36,910 war and is hoping to to defeat the WHO sees basically through economic and blockade effectively. 120 00:14:36,910 --> 00:14:37,810 And, of course, 121 00:14:37,810 --> 00:14:48,370 that economic war and this and its implications again cause more suffering to the population and precious little to the leaders on any side. 122 00:14:48,370 --> 00:14:54,640 But the main features of this war were basically started in 2016, 123 00:14:54,640 --> 00:15:04,690 when they transferred the central Bank of Yemen from summer to Adam, which resulted in having two competing central banks, 124 00:15:04,690 --> 00:15:08,980 both of which are operating, one of which has things like the Swift code, 125 00:15:08,980 --> 00:15:15,580 while the other controls the details and the information, and all the main operations that are needed. 126 00:15:15,580 --> 00:15:25,810 The main impact of this has been that you now have a incredibly vast differential in the exchange rate to the 127 00:15:25,810 --> 00:15:34,720 dollar for the Yemeni people in the area under the algae control supposedly and the area under the U.S. control. 128 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:41,260 And here it's important to remember that Yemen imports about 90 percent of its base. 129 00:15:41,260 --> 00:15:50,830 Foodstuffs I this basic grains and staples, let alone massive amounts of fuel, so you now have at the latest count a few days ago, 130 00:15:50,830 --> 00:16:01,870 one USD is worth 600 Yemeni rials or give or take one in New Zealand, whereas in the rest of the country, it's now worth one thousand one hundred. 131 00:16:01,870 --> 00:16:05,980 It rolls up to one of the at some point last December. 132 00:16:05,980 --> 00:16:12,820 So the cost of living, the cost of surviving for Yemenis is incredibly high. 133 00:16:12,820 --> 00:16:17,680 And another aspect, of course, of this war is the payment of salaries. 134 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:29,620 One point two million Yemenis, teachers, administrators, health staff, etc. And they pay the salaries you would try inadequate to the best of times, 135 00:16:29,620 --> 00:16:35,090 haven't been paid or have paid only very occasionally since that happened. 136 00:16:35,090 --> 00:16:42,790 So since 2016. Now you'd think that in the areas that is not controlled, but it is. 137 00:16:42,790 --> 00:16:55,810 So we have, you know, and both of the houses and the others are running oil and gas black markets, which again benefit a few people. 138 00:16:55,810 --> 00:17:05,680 So and of course, the anti-U.S. groups are very dependent on financial and other support from Saudi Arabia and the UAE. 139 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:15,970 The Houthis are dealing with this by since they have very little access to foreign currency by basically taxing anything that moves. 140 00:17:15,970 --> 00:17:25,330 And that includes humanitarian aid, and it also includes having a multiplicity of taxation and customs points throughout the country. 141 00:17:25,330 --> 00:17:31,250 Again, we don't want to go on forever, so I shall move on to the next one. 142 00:17:31,250 --> 00:17:33,290 This is really. 143 00:17:33,290 --> 00:17:46,490 Looking at why we have such a fundamental conflict in Yemen and this first slide is focussing on the issues which have to be addressed in Yemen, 144 00:17:46,490 --> 00:17:51,560 regardless of the war or no war, peace or no peace. 145 00:17:51,560 --> 00:18:01,220 These particular factors will remain major constraints and are very important to, you know, Yemeni development. 146 00:18:01,220 --> 00:18:14,360 And so first, we have the limited natural resources and economic potential water scarcity, which is well known but is very important. 147 00:18:14,360 --> 00:18:18,800 There's been a mismanagement of agriculture and fisheries resources. 148 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:26,300 The country has a low level of industrialisation and it meets supplies of oil and gas. 149 00:18:26,300 --> 00:18:31,190 Had the war not occurred, oil would have more or less by mouth by now. 150 00:18:31,190 --> 00:18:36,920 Gas has some potential, I think, 17 trillion something or other. 151 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:40,730 And that's, you know, although it has reasonable potential, 152 00:18:40,730 --> 00:18:50,960 it is limited basically by a the cost of the infrastructure to export it and b the fluctuation of gas markets worldwide, 153 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:57,220 particularly if we look in the foreseeable future ignoring the current emergency. 154 00:18:57,220 --> 00:19:03,790 Climate change, which of course, also includes the issue of water that is becoming an increasingly important factor, 155 00:19:03,790 --> 00:19:12,820 and I'll talk about that briefly later on. Another factor is that Yemen still has a rapid population growth, which is almost three percent per annum. 156 00:19:12,820 --> 00:19:17,080 So we have a doubling of the population in 50 and so in 20 years. 157 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:24,040 And finally, and I think that's extremely important is the low level of skill and the low quality of education in Yemen. 158 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:34,270 Solving and responding to the earlier list of problems I've given can be done very effectively and has been damaged and buying 159 00:19:34,270 --> 00:19:43,270 a highly skilled labour force that can take initiatives and operate in the kind of economy developed by in the 21st century. 160 00:19:43,270 --> 00:19:54,010 This low level of education and still high levels are even of illiteracy mean that it's very difficult for Yemenis to benefit from this. 161 00:19:54,010 --> 00:20:04,930 More quickly and in a more temporary way, the silence autocratic regime left a legacy of divisions. 162 00:20:04,930 --> 00:20:15,760 The ill management of unit of the process of unification and after 1990 certainly contributed to the southern separatist movement is divided and rule 163 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:29,020 policy again contributed to the current fragmentation and the prevention of new political forces has basically also affected today's situation, 164 00:20:29,020 --> 00:20:37,900 where there's very few new people prefer to be involved in the in the discussions or anything. 165 00:20:37,900 --> 00:20:46,390 And of course, the regime was known to be very corrupt. But I must say corruption is a feature that the new relevant today. 166 00:20:46,390 --> 00:20:54,430 At the economic level, I think there was a clear concordance between the neoliberal economic policies of Saleh, 167 00:20:54,430 --> 00:21:04,690 who was in favour of basically providing financial and other support to the clique of his friends and therefore enriching a small group of people. 168 00:21:04,690 --> 00:21:11,950 And the neoliberal policies of the international financial institutions they were there was no conflict between these two. 169 00:21:11,950 --> 00:21:22,390 And again, obviously none of these things were focussed on addressing the needs of the poor of the Yemenis or Yemenis in general. 170 00:21:22,390 --> 00:21:26,740 So again, I shall try and be brief on this one. 171 00:21:26,740 --> 00:21:31,150 I think it's important to note that you know what's been going on for seven years. 172 00:21:31,150 --> 00:21:37,630 Yemen has been going on for millennia and dealing with it all in one hour is will guarantee 173 00:21:37,630 --> 00:21:43,570 missing out and forgetting a fair number of important things that need to be said. 174 00:21:43,570 --> 00:21:44,560 So as I just said, 175 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:55,630 one of the main causes of underlying causes of stresses and tensions in Yemen are the very high level of poverty and social fragmentation. 176 00:21:55,630 --> 00:22:00,640 Yemen is the poorest country in the Arab world. I mean, what we're talking about pre-war. 177 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,990 Needless to say, it hasn't improved and social fragmentation. 178 00:22:04,990 --> 00:22:15,010 As I've just described, there was a series of six wars between the houses and the Saleh regime between 2004 and 2010. 179 00:22:15,010 --> 00:22:21,880 From 2007 onwards, there was a separatist movement in the South, which has developed and is ongoing. 180 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:31,240 You had a whole series of tensions between the formal political parties in the in the early parts of the of last decade, 181 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:37,780 mainly between the Saleh G.P.S. General People's Congress and the GNP. 182 00:22:37,780 --> 00:22:46,850 The Joint Meeting parties, which was a conglomerate of the Islamist and tribal Islamic Party with all of the other important parties. 183 00:22:46,850 --> 00:22:53,410 So it included some Zaidi parties, and it also included the socialists and the nationalists and the Baath. 184 00:22:53,410 --> 00:23:02,770 And they were kind of forming a kind of coalition. You could say that there was increasing tension around the elections and electoral law. 185 00:23:02,770 --> 00:23:07,930 And again, these are things that you know, we can't deal with in this amount of time. 186 00:23:07,930 --> 00:23:18,550 There was a succession crisis in the Salafi camp, and I think it's important to note that, you know, the existing political parties 10 years ago. 187 00:23:18,550 --> 00:23:29,560 And indeed still today, we're very well, you know, to find differences in proposed political policies between them was really not that easy. 188 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:35,230 I mean, yes, you could say Islam had an Islamist trend, but you know, they were. 189 00:23:35,230 --> 00:23:43,780 I mean, the allegiance to any party in Yemen was not fundamentally based on the proposed policies of state parties. 190 00:23:43,780 --> 00:23:50,380 I mean, the nationalism, the nationalist by their name. But you know, none of these parties had real policies. 191 00:23:50,380 --> 00:23:57,190 If one goes into the history of the JPC, it's very clear that that it's not. 192 00:23:57,190 --> 00:24:02,830 It wasn't the one thing which I think could have helped the Republic of Yemen avoid fighting or certainly 193 00:24:02,830 --> 00:24:10,270 improve its overall economic condition would have been the into disintegration in the Gulf Cooperation Council, 194 00:24:10,270 --> 00:24:13,150 which would have many advantages, I think, for all sides. 195 00:24:13,150 --> 00:24:21,780 It was systematically excluded, and I think that also contributed to, you know, it was another, we could say, proximate cause of the war. 196 00:24:21,780 --> 00:24:27,570 Now, I want to just talk very briefly about the humanitarian crisis. 197 00:24:27,570 --> 00:24:31,110 So the humanitarian crisis, as Michael just said, 198 00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:40,800 is described as the worst in the world and there's been a lot of that has been quite a bit of criticism recently about its management. 199 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:50,880 And there's the there's also currently a an internet and an evaluation of the overall intervention, 200 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:57,210 and it's fairly clear that it whole, you know, it could have been done a lot better. 201 00:24:57,210 --> 00:25:04,830 It said it may not be the worst in the world. I think if you really look at what's happening in happened in Syria over that decade. 202 00:25:04,830 --> 00:25:12,990 You know, it's it's also pretty bad. However, there's no doubt that the humanitarian crisis is extremely serious. 203 00:25:12,990 --> 00:25:18,330 In Yemen, there are 16 million people who are, as they now say, food insecure, 204 00:25:18,330 --> 00:25:22,710 which means that they are hungry and 20 million who need some kind of support. 205 00:25:22,710 --> 00:25:26,760 I was just looking at some figures from the WFP and others, 206 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:35,580 and they claim that they did a great job in managing to provide support and food distribution for about 11 million people. 207 00:25:35,580 --> 00:25:39,050 So that leaves five million who didn't get anything in recent months. 208 00:25:39,050 --> 00:25:49,080 So we are talking about a situation where there is not a famine in Yemen, nor is there likely to be, but there is a very major crisis. 209 00:25:49,080 --> 00:26:01,260 And that and you know, not only is the food situation grave, but also medical situation, infrastructure and all other aspects are very serious. 210 00:26:01,260 --> 00:26:07,230 It's also important to differentiate between what is done under the UN system through the 211 00:26:07,230 --> 00:26:14,730 Humanitarian Response Plan and what is financed by people of Saudi Arabia and the UAE. 212 00:26:14,730 --> 00:26:26,190 The Saudis have a thing called the King Salman Relief Fund, which also does put money into the UN system, but also operates a lot independently. 213 00:26:26,190 --> 00:26:31,050 And the UAE operate primarily through the UAE Red Crescent. 214 00:26:31,050 --> 00:26:41,340 The UAE Red Crescent has is reputed to be operating in a very partial based system in a very biased manner. 215 00:26:41,340 --> 00:26:53,250 The King Salman fund is also to some extent operate in primarily in areas where we are on the IRG side, 216 00:26:53,250 --> 00:27:02,760 or at least not on the Houthi side, but they also provide a fair amount of funding to the UN system, which is used everywhere. 217 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:08,220 If you look at the I mean, without going into the details of each yes, 218 00:27:08,220 --> 00:27:18,810 funding the main year where there was a high level of funding a 20 19 when 18 seven percent of the humanitarian response plan was funded, 219 00:27:18,810 --> 00:27:22,800 which was the best in Yemen and possibly one of the best in the world. 220 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:29,370 I mean, usually humanitarian response plans tend to be funded at around 60 to 70 percent. 221 00:27:29,370 --> 00:27:39,090 The reason 2019 was so highly funded is because both the Saudis and the Emiratis put in a significant amount. 222 00:27:39,090 --> 00:27:43,380 I think about one and a half billion between them. If I remember, right? 223 00:27:43,380 --> 00:27:54,990 If you look at what's happened in 20 and 21, you can see that the funding has been much lower even from a lower basis, lower requirement basis. 224 00:27:54,990 --> 00:28:01,450 I think that's very, you know, it's very important because there are many issues. 225 00:28:01,450 --> 00:28:07,250 Of course, the houses have been accused, I think, very correctly of. 226 00:28:07,250 --> 00:28:12,230 Influencing the list of beneficiaries of making sure that the, you know, 227 00:28:12,230 --> 00:28:17,090 putting taking people off the list if they don't like them, but even without that, 228 00:28:17,090 --> 00:28:25,550 the lists that have been used have been very out of date and they have not been updated for a whole host of political reasons, 229 00:28:25,550 --> 00:28:33,200 which can be blamed on, I think, all parties concerned. I think another element that is the problem trust. 230 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:41,720 I mean, the vast the overwhelming majority of humanitarian assistance is going into basically food security. 231 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:48,890 So it's both food distribution and cash distribution, which is mostly used for food purchases. 232 00:28:48,890 --> 00:28:50,870 Another thing which, you know, 233 00:28:50,870 --> 00:28:59,450 operating on an emergency basis is one thing and reasonable when you are in a few days of an emergency or even a few weeks, 234 00:28:59,450 --> 00:29:06,440 that when you're getting to year seven, some of it is beginning to look a bit permanent and that, you know, different approach. 235 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:16,760 It could be much cheaper and more effective, and particularly in things like domestic water distribution and medical assistance and things like that. 236 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:24,620 But if you look overall at the situation, most years have been underfunded. 237 00:29:24,620 --> 00:29:31,310 And it's also important to note that if you look at the death toll in Yemen, which is, you know, 238 00:29:31,310 --> 00:29:39,320 getting worse by the end of twenty twenty one, estimated to be three hundred and seventy seven thousand people, 239 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:46,280 the vast majority of these people have been people who have died directly or indirectly 240 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:54,140 from lack of food and malnutrition and aspect that are not directly war related. 241 00:29:54,140 --> 00:30:02,290 And that's partly connected with the blockades. It's connected with all these other factors that I've just mentioned. 242 00:30:02,290 --> 00:30:14,110 So I'll finish with a few words on the environmental issues. As mentioned, you know, we've had water is a very, very fundamental problem in Yemen. 243 00:30:14,110 --> 00:30:18,790 This level of scarcity is very high. 244 00:30:18,790 --> 00:30:28,570 Again, it's a situation that should not be regarded as one size fits all because it varies enormously from area to area, 245 00:30:28,570 --> 00:30:34,960 both in terms of the type of water that's available and the quantities and what it can be used for. 246 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:41,290 It's worth remembering for those who are not familiar with Yemen, that Yemen has no permanent reserves, 247 00:30:41,290 --> 00:30:46,810 has no lakes, obviously hasn't got any glaciers are melting or anything of that sort. 248 00:30:46,810 --> 00:30:55,930 All the only, basically, it's groundwater and rainfall prior to the war, and probably not. 249 00:30:55,930 --> 00:31:02,020 That changed since one third of the water used annually was not replenished. 250 00:31:02,020 --> 00:31:08,530 So it came from fossil aquifers and therefore it's being mined and will no longer be available. 251 00:31:08,530 --> 00:31:18,460 Another thing that's important to remember is that the distribution of water and the distribution of the population are not, 252 00:31:18,460 --> 00:31:26,200 you know, and not complementary. So one of the areas that have the highest population densities, which are the mountainous areas, 253 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:33,550 are areas where water is very difficult to stock and retain, and therefore they're more dependent on rainwater. 254 00:31:33,550 --> 00:31:41,530 Which brings us to the next aspect of the will of the climate situation, which is that with climate change, 255 00:31:41,530 --> 00:31:48,820 rainfall has become both more unpredictable in timing and more unpredictable in quantities. 256 00:31:48,820 --> 00:31:54,910 So while you still have a large number of people who are dependent on rain fed agriculture, 257 00:31:54,910 --> 00:31:59,410 they cannot, you know, they used to be able to plant the seeds in March, 258 00:31:59,410 --> 00:32:06,940 and they knew the rain was going to make and plant the seeds in March, and they might get flooded next week or the rains might not come at all. 259 00:32:06,940 --> 00:32:09,010 So you end up losing everything. 260 00:32:09,010 --> 00:32:21,730 And not only is the unpredictability and timing, but also the the, you know, the types of downpours have become increasingly violent and short, 261 00:32:21,730 --> 00:32:30,740 and therefore the absorption of the water into the into the ground water into the shallow aquifers does not, you know, 262 00:32:30,740 --> 00:32:37,600 it doesn't happen because if you have this and the terraces have been destroyed, basically everything gets washed away. 263 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:43,630 So, you know, you have that problem, then you have some problems of floods and droughts. 264 00:32:43,630 --> 00:32:48,340 See, there's no water, nothing grows and there's nothing available to be drunk. 265 00:32:48,340 --> 00:32:56,200 And you know, if you look at floods again, you have a few, if not every, five or six or seven years in specific areas. 266 00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:01,300 If you look at last year, you had three or four major floods in most of the country. 267 00:33:01,300 --> 00:33:10,030 I think that's pretty unprecedented. You've also had new massive storms that have happened and cyclones again, much more frequently. 268 00:33:10,030 --> 00:33:16,810 We don't give people time to recover from that from, you know, 269 00:33:16,810 --> 00:33:23,440 the previous flood by stocking up on food or stocking up on drains, you know, before they get the next one. 270 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:28,630 So that really aggravates and reduces what they now call resilience. 271 00:33:28,630 --> 00:33:33,580 And I want to talk briefly about this affair ship now. 272 00:33:33,580 --> 00:33:42,760 While the English word Sasha is most certainly the most inappropriate terminology to just discuss this particular ship. 273 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:50,920 You may have heard about it. It's the first. So she's just floating but floating something. 274 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,670 Basically, it's a floating storage ship, 275 00:33:54,670 --> 00:34:01,300 which is seven miles off the coast in the Red Sea and which contains 1.1 million 276 00:34:01,300 --> 00:34:06,370 barrels of oil has been there is falling apart or it's not falling apart. 277 00:34:06,370 --> 00:34:11,650 It could blow up, it could sink, it could rust any time. 278 00:34:11,650 --> 00:34:16,110 The situation has been extremely serious now for many years. 279 00:34:16,110 --> 00:34:21,110 There's been big efforts to try and deal with this. 280 00:34:21,110 --> 00:34:28,630 The U.N. has tried very hard, but again they had different departments in charge of the issue at different times. 281 00:34:28,630 --> 00:34:41,140 And basically until now, nothing was done because ultimately the squabbling between the WHO and the IRGC prevented anything from being done. 282 00:34:41,140 --> 00:34:48,730 The squabbling was based over what would be done with the sale of this 1.1 million barrels of oil. 283 00:34:48,730 --> 00:35:02,210 It ignores the fact that after sitting seven years in all, previously five or six years in basically disintegrating tanker, the value of this oil is. 284 00:35:02,210 --> 00:35:08,210 Debateable and certainly would not command the price per barrel of the cost of 285 00:35:08,210 --> 00:35:13,970 oil either today or even when it was at its lowest point in recent months. 286 00:35:13,970 --> 00:35:20,780 In addition, of course, to the fact that officially it would be embargoed and wouldn't nobody be allowed to buy it now? 287 00:35:20,780 --> 00:35:27,290 This situation may have changed. I'm saying May, because it's happened before that. 288 00:35:27,290 --> 00:35:32,210 That appeared to have been agreements to solve it and to do it. 289 00:35:32,210 --> 00:35:42,020 But I think it's possible that this time it might work because an agreement was signed this week on the fifth whenever. 290 00:35:42,020 --> 00:35:46,610 Between and that's the interesting point that was signed between the U.N., 291 00:35:46,610 --> 00:35:51,560 which is basically in charge of dealing with this, the Houthis who control it. 292 00:35:51,560 --> 00:36:01,250 And the third party is a very big business company responsible for importing most of Yemen's grains. 293 00:36:01,250 --> 00:36:06,050 So the internationally recognised government has not been involved in this at all. 294 00:36:06,050 --> 00:36:10,490 They could try and sabotage it, but they've said that they will. 295 00:36:10,490 --> 00:36:15,140 They want this problem solved, so it will be embarrassing if they do. 296 00:36:15,140 --> 00:36:22,910 But it does prove and it also that the agreement basically formally gives the WHO sees what they want, 297 00:36:22,910 --> 00:36:28,190 which is they don't want this oil to be removed. They want the oil to remain under their control. 298 00:36:28,190 --> 00:36:37,520 And this agreement, so it says that the ship, a new tanker, would be brought and this oil will be transferred to that new tanker. 299 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:45,380 And then what happens in future remains to be discussed. So I think it's important because it might show a solution. 300 00:36:45,380 --> 00:36:50,780 It's also important because this is a threat that for all those who have been at all aware of, 301 00:36:50,780 --> 00:36:55,790 it could not only destroy living conditions all over the Yemeni coast, 302 00:36:55,790 --> 00:37:01,640 but depending on the wind in the season, way up into the Red Sea and possibly the whole of the Red Sea. 303 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:10,220 You know, it's a very I mean, if it and it could still happen if it either sinks or explodes, it will be a very, very, you know, 304 00:37:10,220 --> 00:37:16,850 all the previous ones that we've heard of Exxon Valdez or whatever their jokes compared to what would happen if this thing collapsed. 305 00:37:16,850 --> 00:37:21,380 To conclude, I just want to say that I apologise for not covering more things, 306 00:37:21,380 --> 00:37:25,130 and I've thought there are many things while talking that I should have covered and that I have. 307 00:37:25,130 --> 00:37:30,260 So maybe some of you will ask questions do that. And I look forward to the questions. 308 00:37:30,260 --> 00:37:37,160 I do want to remind everybody that the Yemeni people continue to suffer from this war and this situation, 309 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:44,390 and there's no no immediate prospect for improvement, which is something that I think is extremely sad. 310 00:37:44,390 --> 00:37:50,600 Just one final thing I know anybody who's read Yemen in crisis will note that I start by saying, 311 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:56,030 I hope that when you read this book, things will have war will have ended. 312 00:37:56,030 --> 00:38:00,380 And I'm just about to write an updated preface for the second edition. 313 00:38:00,380 --> 00:38:05,330 I'm going to repeat that. I said that five years ago, and I'm probably going to try and say it again. 314 00:38:05,330 --> 00:38:09,860 And I hope that next time, if they have any third edition, I won't have to say it. 315 00:38:09,860 --> 00:38:14,990 Thank you. Thank you very much. Had another sobering view of Yemen. 316 00:38:14,990 --> 00:38:27,241 The thank you particularly for looking at the environmental and economic.