1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:08,009 Welcome everyone to the final cast of Hillary. 2 00:00:08,010 --> 00:00:17,969 Ted Turner has just ended. And for those of you listening in, you might be back at home or you might still be in and around Oxford. 3 00:00:17,970 --> 00:00:25,410 But wherever you are, I hope you enjoy listening to this edition of the cast and that you have a good vacation. 4 00:00:25,740 --> 00:00:29,520 Today's guest on the cast is Zoe Campbell. 5 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,640 Welcome, Zoe. Hi, everyone. Thank you very much for having me. 6 00:00:32,730 --> 00:00:40,200 Zoe, as you probably know already, is the tensely access and outreach officer and. 7 00:00:40,350 --> 00:00:47,440 Zoe, how long have you been with us at. What's the tomorrow I think will actually be my completion of my second month. 8 00:00:47,460 --> 00:00:51,690 I started on the 11th of January, so still a little bit new and loving it. 9 00:00:51,780 --> 00:00:57,390 Great. Great. Well, we're really pleased to have you in Worcester be on the podcast. 10 00:00:57,510 --> 00:01:02,470 Let's just talk a little bit about what you've done before coming to Worcester. 11 00:01:02,490 --> 00:01:07,590 I know you joined us from the law faculty and before that you were at Brookes, 12 00:01:07,590 --> 00:01:13,470 but tell us when you arrived in the UK and how you ended up landing in Oxford. 13 00:01:13,620 --> 00:01:19,260 So for those that don't know, let me just really proudly and clearly state I'm from Barbados, right? 14 00:01:19,370 --> 00:01:28,409 I love my island in the sea, but my parents spent a lot of time in the U.K. They were part of the Windows generation that came up, 15 00:01:28,410 --> 00:01:29,970 and then they went back to Barbados. 16 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:36,390 And so they were very, very much encouraging of me and my brother, my two brothers, to further our educations as much as possible. 17 00:01:36,570 --> 00:01:44,309 So we all ended up coming to university in the United Kingdom, and I ended up our sister university up the hill. 18 00:01:44,310 --> 00:01:46,620 Brookes. I did love business there. 19 00:01:46,890 --> 00:01:55,080 And then I stayed on to do the admissions officer work there for too many years for people to be asking specific details. 20 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,530 But let us say, I've been here since the last millennium, right? 21 00:01:58,650 --> 00:02:06,930 I am. And I loved it. I met my husband at university, met him in Oxford, love Oxford, stayed here. 22 00:02:07,140 --> 00:02:14,060 And then I got the opportunity to work with the law faculty for a couple of years and really love that as well to. 23 00:02:14,490 --> 00:02:18,630 And then Worcester said, come on over. And I was like, Lads, please. 24 00:02:18,810 --> 00:02:23,219 Yes, thank you. And I'm very, very happy with that decision. 25 00:02:23,220 --> 00:02:30,150 So that's a quick little. Yeah, right. A great, great. Just going back to your parents there back in Barbados. 26 00:02:30,300 --> 00:02:33,300 Yes, I'm 40. My daddy passed away last year. 27 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:39,540 But what he was so, so proud of me working for the University of Oxford. 28 00:02:39,870 --> 00:02:42,240 It was a massive little bragging rights to him. 29 00:02:42,550 --> 00:02:50,190 My eldest brother, he's a barrister and he didn't get as much bragging rights, so I knew that probably would come a little bit. 30 00:02:50,370 --> 00:02:54,360 But I am a daddy's girl, Adam Mummy's girl, so I was happy to take that attention. 31 00:02:55,170 --> 00:03:02,850 So, yes, they live back in Barbados. One thing I want to say is the law faculty and the University of Oxford and I get the thing that's 32 00:03:02,850 --> 00:03:08,360 going to be the same here was there was very support for when that was going on with my family. 33 00:03:08,370 --> 00:03:13,379 Right. And so that's something that I think I kind of love and made me feel like Oxford felt a bit more family. 34 00:03:13,380 --> 00:03:18,570 Like it wasn't like, oh, you have to move on. It was just like, what can we do to help you? 35 00:03:18,780 --> 00:03:20,100 And it was really, really nice. 36 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:27,540 But my mum still lives in Barbados, still speaking to her every other day and I think she wants the number for the academic office. 37 00:03:27,990 --> 00:03:33,270 If I don't call her, she can call someone just to check to make sure that I'm okay and I'm safe. 38 00:03:33,270 --> 00:03:38,190 So, ladies in the academic office, I apologise if my mother starts speaking shortly. 39 00:03:38,550 --> 00:03:44,640 Your mum is always welcome to phone, I'm sure, and you're very welcome and she starts ringing you. 40 00:03:46,290 --> 00:03:50,580 So you've landed well in Worcester from what you were telling me. 41 00:03:50,820 --> 00:03:54,150 What are your initial observations of the college? Everyone's nice. 42 00:03:54,420 --> 00:03:57,420 Why? Why in particular do you find is friendly? 43 00:03:57,420 --> 00:03:58,620 I'm always interested to know. 44 00:03:58,950 --> 00:04:07,890 When I came into Worcester, especially on my first is interviewing the porters are really nice I was jibber jabbering at the around for ages. 45 00:04:08,070 --> 00:04:13,410 They had no idea who this lady was. I don't think for the first 5 minutes they knew I was there for an interview, 46 00:04:13,590 --> 00:04:18,690 but they were nice and they were very friendly and they help, help settle my soul. 47 00:04:18,710 --> 00:04:21,840 And as you can probably tell, my soul is very excitable. 48 00:04:21,840 --> 00:04:22,919 So it was very nice. 49 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:31,410 And then on the day that I arrived, the ladies in the academic office, they were super, super nice and friendly showing me around. 50 00:04:31,590 --> 00:04:37,980 I then met Emma, the archivist, on my first day in the lunchroom, and she was the one that told me very firmly, 51 00:04:38,070 --> 00:04:42,639 Don't work from home on Wednesdays, best food day in the college. 52 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,650 And I was like, That's the sort of information I need to know. We're going to be friends. 53 00:04:46,830 --> 00:04:52,230 And then she offered to take me on a tour of the college just to find out a little bit more. 54 00:04:52,590 --> 00:04:58,860 And then I bumped into one of the scouts who I've seen every day the entire time I work to the law faculty. 55 00:04:59,100 --> 00:05:02,730 We walked past each other and we just said hi. Hi. No, I did. 56 00:05:02,820 --> 00:05:05,940 We are just on the street. And I walked to the West End. You're here? 57 00:05:06,270 --> 00:05:15,419 Yes, I'm here. Okay. Excellent. It was just. And your experience, rather than the law faculty or other colleges, wasn't the same law faculty. 58 00:05:15,420 --> 00:05:19,920 Very friendly portraits of the friendly. I remember my first day in the law faculty. 59 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:29,670 I met Dan, who was wearing this gorgeous velour outfit, and he kind of exploded my expectations of what Oxford was going to be. 60 00:05:29,970 --> 00:05:39,150 And I think that's one of the things I enjoy is how everywhere can be possibly stereotype, but you have to beware stereotyping of anyone or anything. 61 00:05:39,420 --> 00:05:42,840 I spent a whole lot of money on a Bradley Oxford blue outfit. 62 00:05:42,850 --> 00:05:47,579 You know, I was thinking. Yes, I looked. You mean for your interview, for my jobs. 63 00:05:47,580 --> 00:05:51,060 And then I walked in and everyone was just like, oh, you look lovely. 64 00:05:51,210 --> 00:05:55,950 And they're just wearing just so casual and nice. And it's not about what you're wearing. 65 00:05:56,550 --> 00:06:01,740 It's about what you have to give when you got very high energy, which is great. 66 00:06:01,740 --> 00:06:08,250 And, you know, it's a great addition to the college. I will say the teachers think it's good for when they bring the students down 67 00:06:08,250 --> 00:06:12,239 from 3 hours down and they're tired and then I'm there to welcome them with and 68 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:16,110 I know you guys can't see this but a jazz hands and a little bit my sparkle 69 00:06:16,110 --> 00:06:19,830 fingers when they're getting off the bus is a great way to perk up the energy. 70 00:06:19,980 --> 00:06:21,770 Just a hug. And then what happens? 71 00:06:21,780 --> 00:06:28,710 You know, you're obviously an extrovert and when you go home, do you crash or are you still like this at 11:00 at night? 72 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:33,720 If you ask my husband, I probably say I'm still like this at 11:00 at night. 73 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:41,940 Yeah. When? When in your moments of mindfulness, I don't want to see everyone crash in my good zone, but I love walking in white the woods. 74 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:47,820 And I think that is one of the best, maybe the most as a member of the University of Oxford is just on a Sunday. 75 00:06:48,270 --> 00:06:53,399 We'll go out and we'll go and maybe play tennis in the morning and then we'll go home, 76 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:58,440 have a nice breakfast, and then set out for like a two or three hour walk of wife and woods. 77 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:06,610 And once it starts digging, gets a little bit light later on when I get home, I'll go and do a walk on the river in Abingdon for a couple of hours. 78 00:07:06,870 --> 00:07:15,569 This is like high energy all the time. It's like I mean, it's just a nice wall taking that high energy approach. 79 00:07:15,570 --> 00:07:21,240 I know, you know, you've already made yourself, you know, really established in college. 80 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:25,020 You know, people are very enthusiastic about you and your arrival. 81 00:07:25,350 --> 00:07:33,210 So tell us what you've been up to and tell us about the outreach and access work you're doing. 82 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:40,050 Okay. So currently I'm absorbing all I can about Worcester, talking to as many people as possible. 83 00:07:40,260 --> 00:07:43,830 I'm still in the process of meeting different departments, different academic. 84 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,010 If you're out there, I'm not having accosted you yet, 85 00:07:47,220 --> 00:07:53,490 please feel free to pop in and see me because everyone is very understanding that their time is precious. 86 00:07:53,580 --> 00:08:02,670 Yeah. So I consider myself a conduit of kind of a open, a crucible of all the stuff that they tell me. 87 00:08:02,670 --> 00:08:10,500 Yeah, I'm kind of refining it into really short little bits that I can reassure students that we want them to know what are the milestones, 88 00:08:10,710 --> 00:08:12,940 the targets that we expect them to. 89 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:20,759 And a lot of people sometimes assume people know things that you don't know and sometimes you don't know it until it's too late. 90 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:26,309 Yeah. In terms of academics, it would be great for them to engage with you. 91 00:08:26,310 --> 00:08:33,900 Yeah. So that you've got a better idea of what they're looking for, but also in terms of applicants, clarity with them. 92 00:08:33,900 --> 00:08:40,650 Yes. Is really, really helpful and I think we're doing a lot to try and demystify the whole process, aren't we? 93 00:08:40,650 --> 00:08:47,850 But we could still do more. I think we're doing a lot, but there's no reason why we can't get the message out there more. 94 00:08:47,850 --> 00:08:54,870 And I'm a bit of a loud mouth, so I'm happy to be a bit of a speaker just reassuring people because I think there is, 95 00:08:55,230 --> 00:09:00,030 I warn the students against once again falling for stereotypes. 96 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:04,500 Yes, the stereotypes about them, about myself, about Oxford as a whole. 97 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:10,650 They're still about as old as old associated with this is it's clear. 98 00:09:10,650 --> 00:09:15,030 And and the idea is beware the stereotypes and beware the hype. 99 00:09:15,270 --> 00:09:19,040 People assume Oxford and straight away that puts up a block in their minds. 100 00:09:19,070 --> 00:09:24,480 What I want to do is just kind of help get rid of some of that block just to make for them to consider it. 101 00:09:24,570 --> 00:09:29,460 You're doing a lot of work with our partner schools in our regions. 102 00:09:29,730 --> 00:09:35,910 How do you encourage people to think about applying to university and be, you know, to Oxford in particular? 103 00:09:35,970 --> 00:09:42,000 That's a good one. Okay, so I was over. I tend to oversimplify things because I followed the KISS method. 104 00:09:42,270 --> 00:09:49,620 Keep it super simple and when it comes to students in applying, it can be broken down into different reasons why. 105 00:09:49,860 --> 00:09:59,460 And the main reasons are I'm not going to be good enough, and that's either academically not good enough or it's not the sort of place for me. 106 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,650 Yeah. And the sort of sort of place for me for a range. Have different reasons. 107 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:13,100 And I think the first step is to addressing those two. And then once you kind of address it opened up people's minds to have them realise actually 108 00:10:13,100 --> 00:10:18,650 the grades aren't so horrible and high and it's not as scary as I thought it could be. 109 00:10:19,010 --> 00:10:22,020 Is then helping them make the applications? 110 00:10:22,290 --> 00:10:27,049 Yeah. And when I say help you make the applications is not sitting down and doing this, 111 00:10:27,050 --> 00:10:33,590 but just kind of reassuring them because Oxford has a very hard slog in the sense that if you have a school, 112 00:10:33,590 --> 00:10:41,000 a class size of, let's say, 30 plus students, what is the percentage of those students who'll be looking to apply to Oxford? 113 00:10:41,150 --> 00:10:47,930 And how much time can a teacher actually dedicate to that one or two students who are interested 114 00:10:48,170 --> 00:10:54,080 but have to get their application process handled so early compared to everyone else? 115 00:10:54,260 --> 00:11:00,800 And it's that balance and also their knowledge of what's going to be involved, which I'm going to go slightly off piece, 116 00:11:00,950 --> 00:11:07,220 which is touching on something that I've spoken to Helen, our senior tutor about, and a few other people about. 117 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,989 It's about changing one of our school residential schools to be a teacher, 118 00:11:11,990 --> 00:11:20,240 residential and invite a group of teachers from the area down so they can feel more comfortable in what they're saying about Oxford. 119 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,170 And they have a bit of experience of familiarity with it. 120 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:33,230 And so when they talk about it, it almost feels as natural as when they're talking about their own university or their own school experience, 121 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,190 and it just becomes a natural part of the conversation. That's a great idea. 122 00:11:37,190 --> 00:11:40,940 Have we done that before? I don't think that we've done it here before. 123 00:11:40,940 --> 00:11:45,019 I think one or two other colleges I've heard of dabbled in it. 124 00:11:45,020 --> 00:11:48,739 And I know the law faculty has played with the idea of bringing teachers, 125 00:11:48,740 --> 00:11:56,060 and I think the school visits are good for inspiring perhaps that school year, 126 00:11:56,420 --> 00:12:02,780 maybe one or two from the fear below and like perhaps family members like, you know, somebody did it. 127 00:12:02,780 --> 00:12:05,840 They came once you have that association, it builds up more. 128 00:12:06,020 --> 00:12:14,659 But I think with the teachers because wherever they go, yeah, they can still carry that message out in there, become powerful ambassadors. 129 00:12:14,660 --> 00:12:21,410 Yeah. And the teachers really want to do well by their students, but a lot of them are hesitant because they don't know, 130 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:29,089 they don't want to give any misinformation to the students and they get a little bit caught up in the hype of Oxford. 131 00:12:29,090 --> 00:12:36,980 And do you think talking to potential applicants that there are any barriers that they are worried about? 132 00:12:37,310 --> 00:12:41,870 I think the first one is the impression that you still need money to come to Oxford, right? 133 00:12:42,020 --> 00:12:49,099 That's one of the first barriers that starts quieting people from talking to students when they get here. 134 00:12:49,100 --> 00:12:56,180 I mean, there are very established stereotypes about Oxford, but Oxford is quite different to when I was a student. 135 00:12:56,270 --> 00:13:01,040 And do you think people understand that there is no barrier in relation to the kind 136 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:05,930 of support that we provide for everybody from whatever socioeconomic background? 137 00:13:06,140 --> 00:13:09,410 I don't think that message has got out there well enough. 138 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:15,200 Yeah, I think is definitely seeping out there is definitely crossing that, but it's not out there well enough. 139 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:23,029 But I think once they engage with a college, a department, an access officer, an outreach officer, 140 00:13:23,030 --> 00:13:31,200 and they have the initial conversations that they realise that's not the issue, that should stop them from up there. 141 00:13:31,670 --> 00:13:36,799 And so that's what you find, so that once we can get people into college, very much so. 142 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:45,379 Once they've got used to, you know, these amazing surroundings that they then feel more comfortable and more able to apply. 143 00:13:45,380 --> 00:13:52,430 Yes, I think there's nothing better than when they when we're going on a college tour and we just see students around living their best life. 144 00:13:52,430 --> 00:13:57,740 Yeah. Okay. We walk around, we see lots of different students doing lots of different things. 145 00:13:57,980 --> 00:14:01,310 I wanted to say thank you to the ultimate Frisbee crowd. 146 00:14:01,430 --> 00:14:10,970 Okay, you guys rock and you make some of my tours when I'm out there going on and everyone expects everyone to be playing hockey or lacrosse, 147 00:14:11,150 --> 00:14:15,559 and then you guys out there tossing around, you're better than having Quidditch on that field. 148 00:14:15,560 --> 00:14:19,400 Any and everyone is so bright. It's even little things like that. 149 00:14:19,410 --> 00:14:23,209 It is not what you expected it to be. 150 00:14:23,210 --> 00:14:29,060 It's breaking down some of those very established stereotypes which are no longer true. 151 00:14:29,210 --> 00:14:33,590 All the stuff that you kind of like will hear on the news and you think are a little bit, Ooh, that's weird. 152 00:14:33,890 --> 00:14:41,150 I'm like, okay, just relax, relax. If you look at your family, there's something weird on unusual that every family does. 153 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:46,040 But if you told someone else from outside your family, they would look at you and go, Wow. 154 00:14:46,910 --> 00:14:51,830 And that's a lot of the stuff at Oxford. And I like pointing out once again, the tortoise race. 155 00:14:52,070 --> 00:14:59,570 Yeah, our college parents, it's so Oxford, but it's so nice Oxford and it's just like one of the quirky things. 156 00:14:59,570 --> 00:15:01,940 And it's not to be taken as anything. 157 00:15:02,390 --> 00:15:10,430 It is art to this or to that is just a weird thing that goes on in Oxford because we're all delightful little weirdos in our own way. 158 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,659 Sorry. I'm sorry. If anyone doesn't think so. But remember, that's how I classes find myself. 159 00:15:14,660 --> 00:15:16,880 You know, a little bit nice, a little bit strange. 160 00:15:17,150 --> 00:15:23,000 We've got lots of smart people who come from all sorts of backgrounds, who are interested in all sorts of different things. 161 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,630 And we make up these very interesting things. 162 00:15:27,090 --> 00:15:32,990 What I tell the students, Oxford is just full of people who love their subject. 163 00:15:33,350 --> 00:15:42,320 Other other than that, you can't put them too much into any pigeonhole because they come from too many places, too many backgrounds, so many them. 164 00:15:42,830 --> 00:15:46,520 All they have in common is that they love their subject. 165 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:52,400 So how do you encourage them to be more confident about applying? 166 00:15:52,550 --> 00:15:56,090 What's your secret? I don't think I really have a secret. 167 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:02,690 I repeat all the stuff my mum tells me, which is think what's going to make a good student first and foremost. 168 00:16:02,810 --> 00:16:09,530 That's what you're planning to be, is a student for a subject and show people how you have those traits. 169 00:16:09,530 --> 00:16:11,650 Ability be proactive. 170 00:16:11,660 --> 00:16:19,310 And that's one of the biggest things I can recommend to do because there are lots of opportunities there and everybody wants a proactive student. 171 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:26,620 People want good students to teach and people who are interested in their subject and be able to express that interest. 172 00:16:26,630 --> 00:16:29,660 Important bit and also KISS. 173 00:16:29,660 --> 00:16:38,719 Keep it super simple. The application process is not as complicated and as scary as it might seem or people might want it to seem. 174 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:47,990 And as long as you don't allow it to overwhelm you and just remember, we just want to know about you and your interest for the subject. 175 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:55,580 I tend to stay away from the word passion because sometimes people aren't passionate, but they're really interested in things. 176 00:16:55,790 --> 00:16:57,409 And I think sometimes the word passion scares me. 177 00:16:57,410 --> 00:17:06,890 But if you like your subject and have a go, I'm sorry, that didn't really answer the question, but it's about it's encouragement. 178 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:12,499 Yeah, I wouldn't be here now if my mum didn't encourage me and push me to do stuff. 179 00:17:12,500 --> 00:17:13,730 And you'll get upset when I say this. 180 00:17:14,060 --> 00:17:25,790 Oxford is a great university, but it's just another university and that shouldn't allow the history, the glamour, you know, to stop you from coming. 181 00:17:25,790 --> 00:17:30,230 You should consider as a great opportunity, if you like the tutorial system. 182 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:34,640 If you're really interested in your subject, then have a go. 183 00:17:34,850 --> 00:17:38,480 Don't limit yourself right now. Lots of people going to do that later on. 184 00:17:38,780 --> 00:17:43,099 Go for the big bite of the apple. And good advice and tell us about your other plans. 185 00:17:43,100 --> 00:17:47,509 I'm very excited about stuff that we're going to be doing for the future with Worcester College. 186 00:17:47,510 --> 00:17:52,309 And some of our outreach and access were quite big up to John Partington out there because we're 187 00:17:52,310 --> 00:17:58,460 hopefully going to be going up to Bradford City of Culture 2025 and we're doing some amazing things. 188 00:17:58,700 --> 00:18:05,180 So if anyone out there in the Oxford community, the Worcester community has connections with Bradford, 189 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:08,629 whether through your work from living, there are some future planning. 190 00:18:08,630 --> 00:18:13,459 Please get in contact because we're going to be doing some really good and exciting things. 191 00:18:13,460 --> 00:18:20,060 I'm quite excited about that. For the future, we will be having our March residential at the end of this month. 192 00:18:20,060 --> 00:18:25,459 We'll be welcoming three schools and I'm very excited about that because I'll be my first residential in Worcester, 193 00:18:25,460 --> 00:18:28,640 so I will be staying in accommodation. So tell us about that. 194 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:38,360 So how does the residential work? Okay, so our link regions is the Yorkshire and the Humber that we have a lot of schools that travel a long way down. 195 00:18:38,660 --> 00:18:44,810 And what we would like to what we'd like to do is to offer a two day residential where we don't have to squish 196 00:18:45,290 --> 00:18:52,099 everything and it's almost a kind of replicate a day in the life of a Worcester College student where they will come, 197 00:18:52,100 --> 00:18:57,050 will welcome them. They'll have a college lunch, we will have a taster lecture. 198 00:18:57,290 --> 00:19:04,850 They'll get tours of different colleges, Oxford, a followed by the next evening activities in the JCR. 199 00:19:05,090 --> 00:19:10,489 Their support is great to our student ambassadors and then the following day another taster lecture at a few. 200 00:19:10,490 --> 00:19:13,549 But if anyone is interested, I'm still looking so you can't see. 201 00:19:13,550 --> 00:19:19,760 I'm making all my little hand gestures, but I'm still looking for any assistant for taste or lectures, so please reach out to me. 202 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:26,900 So that would be what any of our fellows who'd like to see any fellow, a graduate student, okay, 203 00:19:27,020 --> 00:19:31,579 who has legs and that they would be interested in sharing their normally about year ten age groups. 204 00:19:31,580 --> 00:19:35,900 And we're looking for something to challenge them a bit. Please, please reach out. 205 00:19:36,110 --> 00:19:43,610 So that's going to be really, really nice. And that's the one that next year I would like to swap over to a teachers rather than just you. 206 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:49,490 And then that's when I would love to have a few academics sit on panels so the teachers 207 00:19:49,490 --> 00:19:53,780 can ask some questions and they can just help familiarise themselves with the students. 208 00:19:53,780 --> 00:20:01,260 And then they have the confidence that they're not hearing this information second or third hand, but directly from the people who will be making. 209 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:08,429 Sense ten is really good. And what other plans have you got to say to the benefactors team, development team, 210 00:20:08,430 --> 00:20:16,080 you're going to soon see me badgering you a little bit because I would like to work with our student ambassadors. 211 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,410 They do such amazing work for us. 212 00:20:20,190 --> 00:20:25,530 Let me one give another big up to Adria Neville, the dinner club room access officer. 213 00:20:25,740 --> 00:20:32,310 She was one of the people that made landing into my role here super easy and super nice. 214 00:20:32,550 --> 00:20:42,420 But I think that we need to show our appreciation to the ambassadors who work there, because one of the colleges that don't pay are ambassadors. 215 00:20:42,540 --> 00:20:45,329 And we don't want to be just William making it rain for every reason. 216 00:20:45,330 --> 00:20:49,620 But I do think there are certain occasions that we could find ways to reward them, 217 00:20:49,620 --> 00:20:57,570 but also different ways to reward them by receiving some sort of recognition which they can add to their portfolios and just be a little bit smarter. 218 00:20:57,630 --> 00:21:03,240 And that certainly came up in my drop in sessions that particularly if it's outside term time, 219 00:21:03,420 --> 00:21:08,850 some students would really value getting some sort of financial recognition or some 220 00:21:08,850 --> 00:21:13,260 other form of recognition because otherwise they're giving up paid work very much so. 221 00:21:13,350 --> 00:21:18,780 It's usually access students who will come in and do a lot of this access based work to give back. 222 00:21:19,170 --> 00:21:26,100 And that's nice, but it benefits us all and therefore we should all be contributing in some way, shape or form. 223 00:21:26,100 --> 00:21:29,429 And so we need to make it fair for people who do contribute. 224 00:21:29,430 --> 00:21:36,100 So we are looking at that. Oh, yes. I got to say, you considering across the college, everyone has been very positive about that. 225 00:21:36,100 --> 00:21:40,020 Yeah. They've never there's not been like, oh, no, no, no, we're not going to do that. 226 00:21:40,230 --> 00:21:46,350 Everyone has been positive about it. I just think it's someone has to take the time and to come on, let's do it. 227 00:21:46,590 --> 00:21:50,470 And I'm happy to shout, Come on, let's go. 228 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,840 Right. And anything else you'd like to to do that you haven't touched on? 229 00:21:54,900 --> 00:21:57,720 There's so much I would like to do. You could spend because validate. 230 00:21:57,900 --> 00:22:03,719 What I'm looking forward to really doing is once is trying to gather a roadshow perhaps set 231 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:09,360 up for the Michaelmas term because with Yorkshire and the Humber being our link region, 232 00:22:09,510 --> 00:22:19,560 it costs the students a lot to come down and unless they have a school bus or something like that, that then incurs a lot of additional costs. 233 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:26,610 And these are the schools that we're really trying to target, don't have a lot of those additional funds. 234 00:22:26,790 --> 00:22:31,079 And so I think if we can go up there and we can bring Worcester to them, 235 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:36,479 that is a really great kind of starting point to engage in lots of little things happening, 236 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:43,260 but I'm trying to control myself, not get too carried away so I can complete things really, really well. 237 00:22:43,740 --> 00:22:45,780 And so time is marching on. 238 00:22:45,990 --> 00:22:57,690 So any other final messages for anybody listening in about what you're doing, how they can help, and how we make this a very inclusive college? 239 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:06,210 Right. As I said, still absorbing everything, trying to find out as much about was trying to find out what the college wants from me, 240 00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:10,350 what the college wants for us to work on and focus on. 241 00:23:10,620 --> 00:23:17,820 And just to get as much information puzzle so I can solidify some plans that give us what we want. 242 00:23:17,850 --> 00:23:28,200 And I do think that Worcester has some really lovely, unique selling points that are really kind of we could really big up a lot more. 243 00:23:28,410 --> 00:23:33,930 And the feel of the college it's the community here feels nice. 244 00:23:34,380 --> 00:23:40,890 And also can I just say really, really quickly to my catering staff, I love you very, very much. 245 00:23:41,550 --> 00:23:48,270 Okay. Loving it. The garlic roast potatoes are some of the most amazing things I've ever had in my life. 246 00:23:48,390 --> 00:23:56,730 Oh, we do have amazing food, amazing colleagues, and they've worked so hard, you know, amazing, amazing staff. 247 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:04,650 Well, thank you for saying that. So we thank you very much for all your insights and everything that you're doing for Worcester. 248 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:10,980 We really do appreciate it. And thank you to everyone listening to this week's cast. 249 00:24:11,370 --> 00:24:17,309 We're going to be in hibernation for a few weeks during the VAC. 250 00:24:17,310 --> 00:24:23,730 But as I said at the very beginning of this podcast, I hope you have a good vacation, 251 00:24:23,730 --> 00:24:30,240 take some rest and I look forward to interviewing more people on next term's podcast. 252 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,280 So have a very good Easter. 253 00:24:33,300 --> 00:24:43,640 If you are celebrating Ramadan, I hope you celebrate your leftovers in style and I look forward to seeing you all next term.