1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:12,420 David? Are you still there? David, your muted. 2 00:00:12,420 --> 00:00:16,070 Yeah, I'm ready to start. Sorry about that. OK, thanks. 3 00:00:16,070 --> 00:00:26,360 That's great. OK, well then let's make a start. So welcome to our last seminar for the African Studies Centre for this term. 4 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:33,830 And so delighted to be hosting Professor David Anderson this afternoon. 5 00:00:33,830 --> 00:00:45,230 Just a few housekeeping rules. So I'd ask you, please, to keep your microphones and your cameras off during during the seminar. 6 00:00:45,230 --> 00:00:48,830 And if you'd like to ask a question in the Q&A session, 7 00:00:48,830 --> 00:00:54,500 then do please turn on obviously a microphone, but also your camera as well, if you're willing. 8 00:00:54,500 --> 00:00:59,330 It's good to see people's people's faces if you're happy to do that. 9 00:00:59,330 --> 00:01:00,860 My name is Peter Brook. 10 00:01:00,860 --> 00:01:11,180 I may lecturer here in African history at the African Studies Centre and the history faculty, and I'll be chairing today's seminar. 11 00:01:11,180 --> 00:01:15,200 So it's a great pleasure to welcome Professor Dave Anderson. 12 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:21,680 He's professor of African history at the University of Warwick, formerly of this parish. 13 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,700 And for those that you don't that perhaps know him. 14 00:01:25,700 --> 00:01:33,950 I think I'm right in saying that David was one of the founders of the African Studies Centre at at Oxford. 15 00:01:33,950 --> 00:01:43,520 He has an impressive bibliography to his name. And I think it's fair to say that he is one of the foremost scholars on Kenyan history in the world. 16 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,860 He's currently the principal investigator of a project on past futures. 17 00:01:47,860 --> 00:01:51,950 Mike, for his recent role, Elephants in Tanzania. 18 00:01:51,950 --> 00:02:00,530 And he's also principal investigator on a project understanding the dynamics of water security and conflicts in Kenya. 19 00:02:00,530 --> 00:02:12,500 And today, we're delighted that he's presenting to us on the subject of the dead speak identity or Toscani and the cults in Kenya's Western Highlands. 20 00:02:12,500 --> 00:02:17,660 Take this over to you. Thank you very much indeed, Peter. 21 00:02:17,660 --> 00:02:24,130 Well, as it is introductory in flight. I have a project. 22 00:02:24,130 --> 00:02:31,640 Yeah. I really just I think that I'd be dead you about today. 23 00:02:31,640 --> 00:02:36,140 David, I'm just going to pause you for a moment, cos we've got quite a lot of noise on the on the line. 24 00:02:36,140 --> 00:02:46,940 Could I ask everyone, please, to to turn off your your cameras and your microphones as well, just to save bandwidth during the course of the talk. 25 00:02:46,940 --> 00:02:49,770 Thank you. That's much better. David, back to you. Thank you. 26 00:02:49,770 --> 00:02:55,730 So I was saying that the project that Peter's highlighted in the introduction are ones that should have been doing doing a lockdown. 27 00:02:55,730 --> 00:02:59,680 But like everyone, I've had to have a lockdown activity to keep me sane. 28 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:05,000 And my lockdown activity has been writing a book about the gene or Koike. 29 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:14,930 Now, this is a task that some of you may know that I should have done perhaps 25 years ago, but I got interrupted by other things. 30 00:03:14,930 --> 00:03:26,450 And so I'm only returning to it now. So let me begin by explaining what this is all about in colonial times, the prophets and seers of that. 31 00:03:26,450 --> 00:03:30,560 Can we go back to the first light? Yeah. Keep keep on that one. First bender in colonial times. 32 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:39,870 The prophet, since he is that there to lie clan in Kenya's Western Highlands came to be stigmatised as both evil and dangerous 33 00:03:39,870 --> 00:03:47,780 practitioners of magical occult arts and also our stubborn opponents of the government of the white man. 34 00:03:47,780 --> 00:03:57,110 They were feared amongst the current and for their powers. Yet they were also heralded, as he wrote, leaders of Resistance to Lie or Koike, 35 00:03:57,110 --> 00:04:05,780 as their most powerful practitioners are known, are deeply ambiguous characters in the present as they are in the past. 36 00:04:05,780 --> 00:04:10,730 They continue today to play in a cult role in Kenya's politics, 37 00:04:10,730 --> 00:04:18,050 while also now seeking reparations for the wrongs they believe were done to them in the past. 38 00:04:18,050 --> 00:04:23,060 This paper tries to map out the history of the to lie from the mid 19th century to the 39 00:04:23,060 --> 00:04:29,990 present and the current petition to the Historical Injustice Commission in Kenya. 40 00:04:29,990 --> 00:04:35,870 So this paper really does try and link the deep past with the present, and I hope I can pull that off. 41 00:04:35,870 --> 00:04:42,200 We'll see. The paper seeks to explain why and how the OKOK have managed to sustain their 42 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:47,330 role of spiritual leadership amongst the calendaring communities that are now, 43 00:04:47,330 --> 00:04:58,430 for the most part, staunchly Christian. It seemed like a contradiction through use of a highly adaptable, prophetic idiom to lie dead. 44 00:04:58,430 --> 00:05:05,850 Speak. They speak prophetic words, and those words remake identities. 45 00:05:05,850 --> 00:05:12,320 They continually rewrite histories through retroactive prophecy. 46 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,620 And they relocate themselves at the centre of current political debates, 47 00:05:16,620 --> 00:05:23,250 as well as giving themselves the authority under command of events in the past. 48 00:05:23,250 --> 00:05:32,900 So in other words, what I'm suggesting is that prophecy is a vehicle for rewriting these things and reinventing them in new ways, 49 00:05:32,900 --> 00:05:38,240 and that allows to lie to sustain themselves through time. 50 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:44,660 By transmogrification into other activities. 51 00:05:44,660 --> 00:05:50,420 So let me begin with two stories of blessings. 52 00:05:50,420 --> 00:05:55,760 The first is insignificant and mundane and concerns me. 53 00:05:55,760 --> 00:06:03,440 And the second is of immense political importance. So the first begins at a place called as a gallery. 54 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:12,310 But some of you will know in South Baringo on the 2nd of October 1980. 55 00:06:12,310 --> 00:06:21,220 He was waiting for us under the dappled shade of an acacia tree by the bridge on the old road, the back road into his Gary township. 56 00:06:21,220 --> 00:06:30,280 We had walked that morning for nearly one hour coming from the northern side of music Petchey and moving south towards the darkly forested slopes 57 00:06:30,280 --> 00:06:40,240 of Cape Palombo Hill that rise above the small two bean settlements straggling out along the lowland plains to the east of Aldama Ravine. 58 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:47,570 As we approached the bridge, he called out emerging in the shadows to stand before us. 59 00:06:47,570 --> 00:06:54,870 The lean, willowy figure at the head of the bridge was the old coyote from Cape Long Bay Hill, 60 00:06:54,870 --> 00:07:02,350 who we had never before seen but knew by the name of, well, let's call him social. 61 00:07:02,350 --> 00:07:09,270 So SEAL was the most fearful manifestation of a fearful place, malevolent spiritual powers, 62 00:07:09,270 --> 00:07:19,290 which is herbalists and blacksmiths and fugitives, were said to be gathered on the badlands of on Hill. 63 00:07:19,290 --> 00:07:25,860 All these things taught by Kathleen Jane to be unclean and socially malign. 64 00:07:25,860 --> 00:07:32,970 The lightning storms that so often swirled around could probably speak, were seen as evidence of the coyote sorcery. 65 00:07:32,970 --> 00:07:38,990 An indication of the occult powers he held over the elements of a life and death. 66 00:07:38,990 --> 00:07:46,190 Up there on Kip Lomé in a forest clearing close to high peak was so CEOs homestead. 67 00:07:46,190 --> 00:07:55,970 Even on this bright, sunny October morning, there seemed to be something sinister and cold about sassiest presence in front of us. 68 00:07:55,970 --> 00:08:01,040 He spoke in the Tucson dialect of Canon Jean, who was the foreigner. 69 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:09,140 He wanted to know and what was he doing here? The questions were directed not at me, but at my companion. 70 00:08:09,140 --> 00:08:16,280 The 18 year old keep her own authority. Then working as my research assistant. 71 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,820 Shocked by the unexpected appearance of the coyote, keep rono. 72 00:08:19,820 --> 00:08:30,420 At first, Trank back Kathleen's eyes downwards and not looking directly at the tall, shaven headed figure in the unusual monkey's skin cloak. 73 00:08:30,420 --> 00:08:39,390 For a young man to look in a coyote in the eye was to invite a curse, so SEO carried a staff split at the end. 74 00:08:39,390 --> 00:08:45,490 Known as a silhouette and a short club. With. 75 00:08:45,490 --> 00:08:54,520 His arms were adorned with mystical amulets and over his shoulder was slung a leather bag and a heavily decorated good. 76 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:58,320 All these the typical tools of his trade. 77 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:08,100 When they're nervous, Kip Rohner finally answered, it was to explain that I had come to learn about history, bring the region and the tulgan people. 78 00:09:08,100 --> 00:09:13,280 So see, you then looked at me directly and using my local name. 79 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:19,180 Which some of you were amused. No, was Kipper anyway. He invited me to sit with him. 80 00:09:19,180 --> 00:09:25,290 Turning. He took a few pieces back into the shade and sat himself down onto the acacia. 81 00:09:25,290 --> 00:09:31,140 As I squatted down on a carved wooden stool opposite Tim Kip Rohner remained standing a little 82 00:09:31,140 --> 00:09:39,800 way behind me is I still averted looking only at the dusty ground and never at the coyote. 83 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:44,610 Over the next half hour, so CEOs spoke and we listened. 84 00:09:44,610 --> 00:09:53,610 Proner translated into English as best he could for my benefit. My Calingiri wasn't good enough to pick up what the CEO was saying. 85 00:09:53,610 --> 00:10:00,390 So Sue assured us that he knew everything about the past, just as he knew everything about the future. 86 00:10:00,390 --> 00:10:07,410 And he knew who had been talking to in Baringo over the past few months and what had been said to us. 87 00:10:07,410 --> 00:10:15,340 We were awed and more than disconcerted by his display of knowledge because everything he said was correct. 88 00:10:15,340 --> 00:10:22,230 It was certainly unnerving to hear so CEO speak so accurately about so much that we had done. 89 00:10:22,230 --> 00:10:29,600 Or Koike reputedly have a cult. Powers that connect them with the ancestors and the wisest and more most feared amongst them, 90 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:35,150 of whom so Scheuer was one of venerated as seers and prophets. 91 00:10:35,150 --> 00:10:44,200 They can send their spirits abroad by day and night to watch people and in their dreams or Koike see the future. 92 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:50,290 So see your speech to us, demonstrate his knowledge and his authority over us, 93 00:10:50,290 --> 00:10:59,320 as well as suggesting that he had used his powers to investigate our activities, having established that he knew all about our history. 94 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:03,110 He then asked if we knew about his past. 95 00:11:03,110 --> 00:11:09,950 He told us now of his family from the hills of CAPTA Get Forest on the eastern edge of the western Jishu Plateau, 96 00:11:09,950 --> 00:11:14,090 and they are long established dominance as seers and prophets in this part of 97 00:11:14,090 --> 00:11:19,900 the Rift Valley amongst the southern CAYO and the toucan of the Calingiri. 98 00:11:19,900 --> 00:11:24,850 And they lineage connexions to the most famous of all, the Khalaji no quick. 99 00:11:24,850 --> 00:11:29,500 Even going back to the Mass I love Anarch of the 19th century from only Okoye. 100 00:11:29,500 --> 00:11:37,830 OK, were descended. Finally, so to you declared that to study the past was a good thing. 101 00:11:37,830 --> 00:11:43,940 He stood up and after vigorously shaking his good and chanting an incantation, 102 00:11:43,940 --> 00:11:54,370 he took a swig from the vessel and then sprayed the undigested mixture of sour milk, charcoal, honey and herbs from between his teeth. 103 00:11:54,370 --> 00:12:02,350 All over my head. He told us to go about our business, saying that we will prosper. 104 00:12:02,350 --> 00:12:10,950 We took our leave. I must say, with a huge sense of relief and headed across the bridge into as a Gary township. 105 00:12:10,950 --> 00:12:20,590 I had been blessed by the old coyote. And that was my first and only ever encounter with an old coyote. 106 00:12:20,590 --> 00:12:25,180 Let me go to a second encounter and we'll have the next slide, please. 107 00:12:25,180 --> 00:12:29,010 No, Brenda. 108 00:12:29,010 --> 00:12:40,740 And I'm sure many of the Kenyans in the audience will recognise the man in the image as the deputy president, former deputy president William Ruto. 109 00:12:40,740 --> 00:12:50,010 And there he is pictured in caps as he was in Nandy County on the 5th of June, 2000 and 20. 110 00:12:50,010 --> 00:13:01,140 Before dawn on that morning, Kenya's deputy president, William Ruto, arrived at a quiet rural dwelling in the CAP CEO were location of Nandy County. 111 00:13:01,140 --> 00:13:07,890 He was accompanied by quite an entourage. The governors of Nandi and the western Kyushu counties, 112 00:13:07,890 --> 00:13:14,710 local members of parliament for the SOI into indirect constituencies and a leading Nandy senator. 113 00:13:14,710 --> 00:13:21,370 This heavyweight political delegation descended upon the humble home of a retired Anglican priest. 114 00:13:21,370 --> 00:13:31,030 The affable and articulate Canon James Bassi. Then serving as chairman of the self-appointed Nandy Lavon's Council of Elders, 115 00:13:31,030 --> 00:13:37,050 fancies himself a leader of the clay clan of Nandy, the clan of the earthquake. 116 00:13:37,050 --> 00:13:41,340 Amongst the council members gathered to meet the deputy President Abbas's home that morning 117 00:13:41,340 --> 00:13:47,130 were some who are locally known for their practise of the occult arts of the iconic. 118 00:13:47,130 --> 00:13:56,610 They included Christopher Arop agree. Lawrence in Kenya and Stephen are up for Moy, all fellow residents of Capsis, Iowa. 119 00:13:56,610 --> 00:14:05,400 Rueter would come there to be blessed in a ceremony organised and led by these today elders that would offer the deputy president and I quote, 120 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:11,080 divine protection from evil spells and physical harms. 121 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:17,630 And that would ensure, again, I quote, that he was protected from political upheavals in the difficult months of party 122 00:14:17,630 --> 00:14:26,110 negotiations and deal making that lay ahead before Kenya's presidential poll in 2022. 123 00:14:26,110 --> 00:14:32,480 Arriving at the Reverend Bhatti's home, dressed in a smart blue blazer and khaki trousers, as we can see, 124 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:41,840 Rootie prepared for the ceremony by taking off these clothes and donning a cap made from a Colbert's monkey skin and a cloak of lion height. 125 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:56,080 His hosts, due to a nearby hill where the ceremony committee came up to me, 126 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:04,130 was doused with milk and honey from a special traditional good bye eldest dressed in wild animal skins, unquote. 127 00:15:04,130 --> 00:15:08,650 Amongst the instruments used in the ceremony was a club the same as before. 128 00:15:08,650 --> 00:15:12,830 Not get a wet and a traditional stick the same as before. 129 00:15:12,830 --> 00:15:18,750 I still get these artefacts believed by Nandita Ly to belong to 19th Century or. 130 00:15:18,750 --> 00:15:21,320 Kimberly Uptalk at. 131 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:28,850 It was Kim Yolly who'd first prophesied the coming to the White Mountain, Andy, and the destruction of the independence of the Nandy people. 132 00:15:28,850 --> 00:15:36,080 After two hours, the ceremony was completed and just after 7:00 p.m., Ruti and his entourage politely took a leave of Bassi. 133 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:40,690 On the Talet, Elders went climbing into his vehicle to depart. 134 00:15:40,690 --> 00:15:46,760 Rudo turned to acknowledge the supporters who had gathered around Bhatti's home waving to the crowd. 135 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:57,380 He held up the club, the duet that Bassi and the others he presented to him as a symbol of Talet power and authority. 136 00:15:57,380 --> 00:16:02,790 Why are the Korean press thrashed about the next week to try and work out the political meaning of the event? 137 00:16:02,790 --> 00:16:11,540 The Kepler Seawell, those Calingiri, you understand? Understood the to lie and the symbolism of this needed no explanation. 138 00:16:11,540 --> 00:16:15,460 They realised that Rotu, in its bid to become Kenya's next president, 139 00:16:15,460 --> 00:16:21,430 was seeking some the same kind of symbolic and occult authority that had been granted to Dunner Moy, 140 00:16:21,430 --> 00:16:31,410 Kenya's second president and the only Calingiri to hold the office boy of Tugun birth came to the presidency in 1978. 141 00:16:31,410 --> 00:16:37,080 The principal symbol of his period in office was a room for a short club that 142 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:41,650 he always carried with him at all political meetings for many years before. 143 00:16:41,650 --> 00:16:50,490 Most Kenyans thought Moyse Runga was merely an effort to match the symbolism of a fly whisk the President Kenyatta had carried previously. 144 00:16:50,490 --> 00:16:57,300 And it came to represent the ease with which it was said Kenya could swat away his enemies and rivals. 145 00:16:57,300 --> 00:17:03,120 Moise Runga was, in fact, a traditional Nandy club. They're not here with. 146 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:10,470 The to lie elders claim they had originally given to him at a meeting in Nicarico in 1962. 147 00:17:10,470 --> 00:17:14,850 This meeting acknowledging his leadership of the first little party formed to 148 00:17:14,850 --> 00:17:19,020 represent the interests of all the calendar and peoples in the Rift Valley. 149 00:17:19,020 --> 00:17:26,880 The Calingiri Political Union. History in Kenya has a habit of biting back. 150 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:39,070 The next slide, please. Someone who will recognise the work of Kenya's famous political cartoonist. 151 00:17:39,070 --> 00:17:47,250 Though not all of you will understand the meaning of the cartoon. I think privatisation on a recording would be perhaps actionable. 152 00:17:47,250 --> 00:17:51,540 So those who know what that means will know those. You don't know what the cartoon means to or not. 153 00:17:51,540 --> 00:17:56,640 But I'm interested in the. The Ringel. 154 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:04,620 This the staff beside me now, when I finally step down from the presidency in 2003, 155 00:18:04,620 --> 00:18:13,480 he passed and a girl went to his eldest son, Jonathan, and then it subsequently came to a second son, Raymond. 156 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:23,100 At Mike's burial in February to 20, Raymond finally presented it to Gideon more than the leader of the counter party and William Ruto, 157 00:18:23,100 --> 00:18:26,760 his greatest rival for the college in vote. 158 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:34,080 Although conducted as a private family funeral, Gideons acceptance of this symbolised the handing over the reins of power. 159 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:44,470 According to the tally, the leadership of the challenging. Which through this act to lie and claiming is in their gift. 160 00:18:44,470 --> 00:18:49,970 So this is what the others of July would like us to believe. For all of this is true, 161 00:18:49,970 --> 00:18:58,850 it places it to lie at the centre of Kenya's politics over the past half century or more since before the country's independence. 162 00:18:58,850 --> 00:19:07,430 And this is exactly how the prophetic idiom of the delay operates, retrospectively laying claim to local authority through association with key 163 00:19:07,430 --> 00:19:13,380 events and personalities whose actions endorse the powers of your colleague. 164 00:19:13,380 --> 00:19:20,580 Were it not for to life support. We are led to believe Moy might not have been politically successful and a whole range of 165 00:19:20,580 --> 00:19:28,390 stories now told about Ally Influence seeks to reinforce just this kind of impression. 166 00:19:28,390 --> 00:19:34,100 By turning up the capture, Iowa was rooting, hoping to gain some of that magic. 167 00:19:34,100 --> 00:19:38,760 The Moy Dynasty are no longer supported by all in the calendar neighbours, the Rift Valley, 168 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,640 some to I claim that they no longer sanctioned the authority of the Moy family. 169 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:49,540 Well, that they, in fact, demand the return of the room grew upon Moyse death in February 220. 170 00:19:49,540 --> 00:19:55,860 We have no way of knowing if that is true, but that is what they now claim. 171 00:19:55,860 --> 00:20:04,320 Essentially then to lie see themselves as having a political role and they use their prophetic idiom to reinforce this. 172 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:15,550 Traditions narrow late that even President Kenyatta had been blessed apparently in 1964 by the to lie Nandy or Coyote Bashary in our Kimani. 173 00:20:15,550 --> 00:20:22,990 The two men met then after Kenyata had arranged for the cereal to be released from a lengthy prison period detention in prison. 174 00:20:22,990 --> 00:20:33,530 OK, blessings can be trivial then, as mine was at as a gallery in October 1980, but they can also be events of immense symbolic power. 175 00:20:33,530 --> 00:20:42,590 Or at least that is what to lie like to claim the blessing of Deputy President William Kip career some way out of Bruit to capture 176 00:20:42,590 --> 00:20:52,260 Seawell in June to 20 tells us that the occult power of the Akoya still has a significant part to play in the politics of Kenya. 177 00:20:52,260 --> 00:20:58,900 But again, at least that's what Calli want us to think. 178 00:20:58,900 --> 00:21:02,670 So now with the context set, we need some history. 179 00:21:02,670 --> 00:21:19,110 The next slide, please. So this is an image on this slide of an old coyote known as Capello's. 180 00:21:19,110 --> 00:21:22,910 Now, many of you who, if you've looked up, you're quite on the Web. 181 00:21:22,910 --> 00:21:31,710 If you do so now, you will find the image on the right constantly represented as Coyte Alal. 182 00:21:31,710 --> 00:21:38,550 It is not Kotal. There is no photograph of goit level ever taken. 183 00:21:38,550 --> 00:21:46,590 This is the photograph of Capello's. There is a photograph taken by Kotal, Elle's murderer, Richard Meynet Tulgan. 184 00:21:46,590 --> 00:21:49,260 But it is Capello's, not Kotal L. 185 00:21:49,260 --> 00:22:01,260 And the image on the left is taken slightly later by another Cloon administrator and shows Capello's surrounded by his so-called advised advisors. 186 00:22:01,260 --> 00:22:10,350 When he was, he was the chief chief of the Nandy people in the early period of close administration. 187 00:22:10,350 --> 00:22:20,040 Now, what these images convey to you is the sense that in the early stages of colonialism in Kenya, 188 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:28,410 the Kaleigh were taken to be political leaders of the Calingiri speaking peoples. 189 00:22:28,410 --> 00:22:40,410 And this was because in the very earliest phases of colonial encounter, the old Coyte were associated with leading the rebellion against. 190 00:22:40,410 --> 00:22:48,990 Colonial rule. Now, I keep using that, that the singular of about it or coyote, 191 00:22:48,990 --> 00:22:58,400 the plural is or colleague and I keep using Okereke because there were many more than one. 192 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:03,230 And at the time of the British encountering the 80s, 90s in Nandy alone, 193 00:23:03,230 --> 00:23:14,530 there were we know of at least seven different or Koike who were practising relatives successfully amongst different Nandy sections. 194 00:23:14,530 --> 00:23:23,570 Capello's and there were amongst those. And Capello's and Coulter Lel were, in fact, rivals. 195 00:23:23,570 --> 00:23:32,660 In the practise of the coyote, so these guys, although they are seen in colonial, 196 00:23:32,660 --> 00:23:40,830 the colonial mind as being part of a common group and they claim affiliation to a single clan. 197 00:23:40,830 --> 00:23:46,390 They are not necessarily best buddies. They are rivals in business. 198 00:23:46,390 --> 00:23:51,790 They are rivals in the practise of their arms. And that's important to remember. 199 00:23:51,790 --> 00:24:05,510 Now, the origin of this clan and its powers goes back to at least the 1850 eighteen 60s and actually has its roots in Maasai Prentis. 200 00:24:05,510 --> 00:24:15,260 Before the 18, 50s and 60s, there were occult practitioners amongst Nandy and related Calingiri peoples. 201 00:24:15,260 --> 00:24:21,740 But in the middle of the 19th century, at Nalley in particular, 202 00:24:21,740 --> 00:24:36,160 they absorbed a number of Maasai refugees who included poor Koike or included what the Maasai would have called LOI Brog Lioy Bonds. 203 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,400 Those people moved into the college in areas. 204 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:50,900 And settled there and began practising their arts and were eventually accepted as part of the to lie clan. 205 00:24:50,900 --> 00:24:53,210 Now there are different traditions that recount this, 206 00:24:53,210 --> 00:25:00,980 but they all share very common factors about how that process took place and what actually happened. 207 00:25:00,980 --> 00:25:04,730 And they all agree that by about the eighteen eighties, 208 00:25:04,730 --> 00:25:16,580 these incoming or Koike had become dominant amongst the to lie and were considered to be the most powerful practitioners of occult arts. 209 00:25:16,580 --> 00:25:24,230 Now, it's very important at this point to recognise and I stress this because align themselves would want it stressed. 210 00:25:24,230 --> 00:25:29,870 And there are there are there are in our audience tonight some some representative of the community. 211 00:25:29,870 --> 00:25:35,070 They'd wanted emphasised that to lie are not witches. 212 00:25:35,070 --> 00:25:38,730 They don't practise witchcraft. They're a cult. 213 00:25:38,730 --> 00:25:45,110 Art are to do with prophecy, with seeing. 214 00:25:45,110 --> 00:25:56,210 Was being Sears, so they are not associated with witchcraft now, they have the power to do evil things and that makes them dangerous, 215 00:25:56,210 --> 00:26:01,950 but they are not considered by Calingiri to be in the same category as witches. 216 00:26:01,950 --> 00:26:07,370 No, I stress this because in much of the colonial literature about the to lie, 217 00:26:07,370 --> 00:26:18,830 there is a confusion about this and that the to lie are too often presented in the colonial record as if they have the powers of witchcraft. 218 00:26:18,830 --> 00:26:26,930 And I know this, this, this causes a lot of concern amongst the community and is rightly questioned and corrected. 219 00:26:26,930 --> 00:26:29,480 So I make that point very clear. 220 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:42,340 So their origins are not within the Calingiri group, but with Marsi that is widely acknowledged and not really questioned anywhere. 221 00:26:42,340 --> 00:26:53,480 But over time, they have become much more intrinsically Calin Jane and linked in with the communities with in which they are living. 222 00:26:53,480 --> 00:27:02,990 So that's their origins. And when we come to the end of the 19th century, 223 00:27:02,990 --> 00:27:10,160 as colonial penetration is beginning in this part of Kenya and the Nandi Hills area 224 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:17,710 becomes one of those areas where local communities resist colonial penetration. 225 00:27:17,710 --> 00:27:31,570 And in the Ānanda areas, this result in a major resistance between 1892 and 1985 that results in a number of different wars against the British. 226 00:27:31,570 --> 00:27:44,830 If we can go to the next slide, please, Brender. Now, those wars spanned 1894 to 05, 227 00:27:44,830 --> 00:27:51,010 and they are very famous within Kenya because this was the most protracted and probably 228 00:27:51,010 --> 00:27:57,250 most determined resistance to colonial rule that was fought anywhere in Kenya. 229 00:27:57,250 --> 00:28:04,630 And one of the old coyote from this period named Kohta Lal becomes the hero of that resistance. 230 00:28:04,630 --> 00:28:11,380 He is seen as its principal organiser. He is seen as the leader of that resistance. 231 00:28:11,380 --> 00:28:20,680 Now, the truth is that we are very unsure whether Kotal and anything at all to do with the first four Nandy Rising's. 232 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:26,200 We don't know. There is no evidence. We assume he did, but we don't know. 233 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:35,110 But we certainly know that he was involved in the Fifth. And this is the one that results in Kotal else death. 234 00:28:35,110 --> 00:28:40,310 He's become a very heroic figure because of the character of that death. 235 00:28:40,310 --> 00:28:48,770 The British mounted a very large punitive operation against the Nandy, and on the day before that operation was due to begin. 236 00:28:48,770 --> 00:28:58,730 Caldwell was shot while under a flag of truce in a discussion with a British military officer named Richard Meynet Target. 237 00:28:58,730 --> 00:29:10,100 The man photographed here in the slide, Meynet Target, and we now know from archival documents, was commissioned to carry out this act. 238 00:29:10,100 --> 00:29:22,770 In other words, he made a plan. He checked in with his superiors and then carried out what was, in effect, an assassination of court to allow. 239 00:29:22,770 --> 00:29:31,110 Now, and that's important to state, because there's been a lot of controversy around my target and court level, 240 00:29:31,110 --> 00:29:38,340 and it is sometimes said that mine it's Hagen acted on his own volition. 241 00:29:38,340 --> 00:29:47,460 He was court martialled in three different hearings for this act and exonerated in all three of the hearings. 242 00:29:47,460 --> 00:29:57,060 But it's now established in the documentary evidence that his superior officers were aware of what he was going to do all along. 243 00:29:57,060 --> 00:30:05,220 So who killed coital is not a mystery. But exactly how he was killed is still the subject of controversy. 244 00:30:05,220 --> 00:30:11,840 And it's almost certainly the case that while he was under a flag of truce at mine, 245 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:24,040 it's Hagen broke that truce by simply thrusting a revolver at Cordillo, killing him and then MAGNET's Hoggins entourage, 246 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:29,230 carrying out the killing of all of those in the vicinity with coital, 247 00:30:29,230 --> 00:30:35,410 which meant that several other leading members of the like clan were killed at that time. 248 00:30:35,410 --> 00:30:42,190 The British punitive expedition continued in the days that followed this and amounted to a massive defeat for the 249 00:30:42,190 --> 00:30:51,010 Nandy in which they were displaced in their lands and pushed back into the area where they currently live and occupy, 250 00:30:51,010 --> 00:31:04,210 which was then called the Nandy Reserve. And that process took another year following the killing of Kotal L and over that time, 251 00:31:04,210 --> 00:31:13,300 a number of other Nandy leaders were captured by the British and prosecuted for their resistance against British rule. 252 00:31:13,300 --> 00:31:20,810 And if we can go to the next slide, please. Brenda. 253 00:31:20,810 --> 00:31:33,590 And the image here is the file from the CNN National Archives that contains the evidence about those other leaders amongst them other quick. 254 00:31:33,590 --> 00:31:40,270 We were taken as political prisoners and deported by the British to Nairobi. 255 00:31:40,270 --> 00:31:46,430 First we were put in consumer prison, then moved to Nairobi, having deported those political prisoners. 256 00:31:46,430 --> 00:31:55,250 The British then appointed or Koike in Nandy and amongst KIPP's ciggies as colonial chiefs. 257 00:31:55,250 --> 00:32:01,250 Now, this was because they had misunderstood the character of the quake's role and 258 00:32:01,250 --> 00:32:06,440 they had thought of them as political leaders rather than spiritual leaders. 259 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:13,230 Within a few months, this mistake became apparent because local people were complaining that the 260 00:32:13,230 --> 00:32:20,460 Akoya were extorting from them and disrupting social lives in a very major way. 261 00:32:20,460 --> 00:32:24,900 These accusations multiplied and became much louder once. 262 00:32:24,900 --> 00:32:33,120 Christian missionaries arrived in the area and they began to collect testimony from people about what was going on. 263 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:37,500 Eventually by nineteen oh eight oh nine. 264 00:32:37,500 --> 00:32:47,370 There was a big campaign against at Quilligan Eric Jumba in the creature area to remove him as a colonial chief. 265 00:32:47,370 --> 00:32:48,840 And he was, in fact, 266 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:59,520 prosecuted and sent outside deported outside the district with his family to prevent him acting adversely against the local community. 267 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:06,630 Around the same time by Syrian Arab companya in the Ānanda area came into prominence. 268 00:33:06,630 --> 00:33:14,190 He was said to be called your little son, although, again, that the evidence on that is a little bit unclear. 269 00:33:14,190 --> 00:33:24,840 But the Syrian army commander in the period at the end of the First World War becomes very prominent as a local or coyote, although he is very young. 270 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:33,280 And in 1923, he organises a major rising that is planned on the Nandy escarpment and on the farms of the West and 271 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:41,790 the issue involving the young Nandy men who are then squatting on those European owned farmlands. 272 00:33:41,790 --> 00:33:51,360 So this tradition of vengeance for caudillos, death by 1923 has become part of the reason d'être amongst to lie. 273 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:59,060 And it's very much in evidence, not just in Ananda areas, but throughout the challenge in areas as a whole. 274 00:33:59,060 --> 00:34:09,290 So in the next slide, please. Brenda. This leads in the 1920s to a different kind of resistance. 275 00:34:09,290 --> 00:34:13,170 So after Bezerra Cohen has been arrested and himself deported. 276 00:34:13,170 --> 00:34:26,270 The British discover in the middle of the 1920s that the Calli are organising resistance against the British by gathering resources, 277 00:34:26,270 --> 00:34:33,020 including weapons and money, for a planned rebellion. 278 00:34:33,020 --> 00:34:36,530 It takes several years for them to sort this out and discover it. 279 00:34:36,530 --> 00:34:40,010 The image here, by the way, is of it of Kip Trauma's wives at Loomba. 280 00:34:40,010 --> 00:34:45,130 That's an image taken, probably taken by Winston Churchill in her own nineteen oh seven. 281 00:34:45,130 --> 00:34:55,320 It's just a nice picture. But but in this period, a group of Paul Koike led by certain eak. 282 00:34:55,320 --> 00:35:07,310 Organise an act of resistance. They also begin terrorising and attacking Christian catechists at some of the churches. 283 00:35:07,310 --> 00:35:20,420 So some of the clearest evidence of antagonism against your colleague comes from the writings of newly evangelised African Christians. 284 00:35:20,420 --> 00:35:25,740 And as the government begins to take steps against these all Koike. 285 00:35:25,740 --> 00:35:35,820 The role of these young Christian communities is very prominent in exposing what your coyte are doing. 286 00:35:35,820 --> 00:35:39,840 Now, that raises interesting questions historically about the veracity of that evidence 287 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:44,220 and its motivation and so on and all all those things are very important. 288 00:35:44,220 --> 00:35:48,090 But what it indicates is that from these very early days, 289 00:35:48,090 --> 00:36:02,450 there is a major struggle going on between the Christian communities that are emerging and those who support the lie and the quake at now by about 19, 290 00:36:02,450 --> 00:36:15,100 27, 28. The government are getting more aware of what the Akoya are doing, and they begin an enquiry that assembles evidence against them. 291 00:36:15,100 --> 00:36:24,420 And between 1929 and 1930 to 33, there are a series of arrests and prosecutions. 292 00:36:24,420 --> 00:36:28,910 And eventually eight major or coalgate, including Satanic, 293 00:36:28,910 --> 00:36:35,730 are convicted of major criminality and all are sentenced to periods of more than seven 294 00:36:35,730 --> 00:36:43,770 years imprisonment and are sent mostly to Nairobi prison right at the end of this enquiry. 295 00:36:43,770 --> 00:36:50,070 And at the end of these prosecutions are very notorious case occurs called the Simone case, 296 00:36:50,070 --> 00:37:02,400 where a group of of young men who are discovered to have been sent by an or coyote attack a farm, a European settler farm. 297 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:13,350 It's a very unpleasant incident that goes badly wrong. It ends up with both the husband and wife in the family being very badly assaulted. 298 00:37:13,350 --> 00:37:15,850 And the woman sexually assaulted. 299 00:37:15,850 --> 00:37:27,450 And this case causes a Ferrari and contributes very much to a decision the government takes in 1934 to pass an ordinance called 300 00:37:27,450 --> 00:37:39,420 the Lie Bombs Removal Ordinance that permits them legally to remove the entire to lie Klan from the Cape Siggins district. 301 00:37:39,420 --> 00:37:47,970 So what they do here is they identify the KIPP's ciggies wing of the to lie to the south of Nandy as being responsible for this crime wave. 302 00:37:47,970 --> 00:37:56,610 And they therefore target that group. So they don't x expel the Nandy to lie or to lie in Cayo. 303 00:37:56,610 --> 00:37:58,890 It's just the to lie in the creature. 304 00:37:58,890 --> 00:38:10,110 Keep Ziggy's area to the LaBonge removal order ordinance is targeted specifically at that one community is the only colonial legislation of its kind. 305 00:38:10,110 --> 00:38:18,650 I can find anywhere that targets a particular group in this way and then expels them from an area. 306 00:38:18,650 --> 00:38:26,310 The removal ordinance empowered the British to remove not just the male miscreant to date convicted and prosecuted, 307 00:38:26,310 --> 00:38:34,130 but all of their families, women and children and all their chattels and belongings. 308 00:38:34,130 --> 00:38:42,380 And in the archives, as many people in the audience will be aware, there are lists of all of these individuals by name who were deported between 309 00:38:42,380 --> 00:38:52,970 1934 and 1938 from this area to a remote area to the south west known as Kwasi. 310 00:38:52,970 --> 00:39:01,870 Now, that expulsion is very important because Calli are now making claims against that expulsion in these two historical injustice commissioned. 311 00:39:01,870 --> 00:39:09,830 And we'll come back to that in a moment. Can we have the next slide, please? 312 00:39:09,830 --> 00:39:17,590 So local historians have been very active in publicising some of the things I've already talked about. 313 00:39:17,590 --> 00:39:21,890 And I know we've got Godfrey staying with us tonight. I think, David, curious, will we be here? 314 00:39:21,890 --> 00:39:24,510 And this book I've highlighted here, the capacity is to lie, 315 00:39:24,510 --> 00:39:31,550 as is it is a book that David to me is written that I think Godfrey sang, may have contributed to that. 316 00:39:31,550 --> 00:39:42,350 Tell some of this story and tries to explain what has happened to the kipsang is to lie at this period of exclusion and exile, 317 00:39:42,350 --> 00:39:48,140 which could after 1934 was a very traumatic experience for the community. 318 00:39:48,140 --> 00:39:56,630 They were sent to Glassey, which is a fairly remote rural area to the south west near near Lake Nyanza. 319 00:39:56,630 --> 00:40:04,730 It was an area that suffered from very bad health problems, not least tazi fly and therefore trip trypanosomiasis. 320 00:40:04,730 --> 00:40:16,020 And it's also an area that is mazurkas as a reason why the area was underpopulated was precisely because of these difficulties. 321 00:40:16,020 --> 00:40:21,290 And the British were aware of these problems when they sent the ciggies there. 322 00:40:21,290 --> 00:40:25,550 And the truth is that they didn't much care about these problems. 323 00:40:25,550 --> 00:40:31,580 They assumed that they would be resolved one way or the other. However, by the 1940s, 324 00:40:31,580 --> 00:40:37,400 colonial officials in this area were so concerned about these difficulties that they 325 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:45,470 tried to resettle the incoming to lie in areas where Tripps was less prevalent elsewhere. 326 00:40:45,470 --> 00:40:48,140 The diseases could be more sorrowed, 327 00:40:48,140 --> 00:40:56,000 but to lie resistance to that was very strong because they basically didn't like to do anything government told them and they tried to avoid that. 328 00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:01,250 So there was a real there was a really a very difficult situation by the 1940s. Also, 329 00:41:01,250 --> 00:41:08,990 this exile community struggled because they had difficulty making marriages for young men because none of 330 00:41:08,990 --> 00:41:14,120 the local communities were very keen on marrying with them and they were excluded from leaving the area. 331 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:22,220 So they couldn't go back to keep Suki's to make marriages. So they became a major problem about marriage and mobility. 332 00:41:22,220 --> 00:41:30,230 Also, traditionally, Kip Siggins, who recruited quite a lot into the military and to I had been part of that process. 333 00:41:30,230 --> 00:41:37,160 In 1939, the British military actually banned to lie from membership in the military. 334 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:43,250 In fact, some to lie did manage to join the carrier corps, the auxiliary forces, 335 00:41:43,250 --> 00:41:48,170 and some of them did serve in the civil war, as David Toohey makes clear in his book. 336 00:41:48,170 --> 00:41:53,450 But at that time, technically, recruitment of lie was made illegal. 337 00:41:53,450 --> 00:41:58,940 So that also disadvantaged the community in terms of their ability to earn. 338 00:41:58,940 --> 00:42:05,790 There was also a real problem with male education because initially Glassie had no services and no schools. 339 00:42:05,790 --> 00:42:11,090 And it wasn't until the late 1940s that any effort was made to try and resolve this. 340 00:42:11,090 --> 00:42:19,640 And eventually, in the early 1950s, an agreement was made that the young men could be sent back to Korea show to go to school. 341 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:27,040 So it's undoubtedly the case that the period exclusion was one of great hardship for the community and considerable deprivation. 342 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:31,890 And that is part of their current legal claim to the Historical Justice Commission. 343 00:42:31,890 --> 00:42:38,660 Can we have the next slide, please? I'm coming to near to the end now. 344 00:42:38,660 --> 00:42:50,720 While that is going on in in in Glassey, in the Ānanda area, there is also segregation and surveillance of the nanny aren't deported, 345 00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:57,740 but they are restricted to capture where one location with the Nandy reserve and they're put under surveillance. 346 00:42:57,740 --> 00:43:03,020 So I'll call you have to report to the district commissioner on a daily basis. 347 00:43:03,020 --> 00:43:09,500 They are very much kept under watch and they are not allowed to leave the location without permissions. 348 00:43:09,500 --> 00:43:14,870 So their mobility is very much restricted. And it's like living in an open prison. 349 00:43:14,870 --> 00:43:20,420 Now Capsis you were Nandy now claim that this was also quite an unhealthy area. 350 00:43:20,420 --> 00:43:26,510 The official historical records don't really support that accusation. It was actually an area very good grazing. 351 00:43:26,510 --> 00:43:30,680 Other Nandy didn't much want the coyote to get in this area. 352 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:38,450 So. So that's a bit more contested. But certainly to suggest that this was like an open prison is, I think, pretty accurate. 353 00:43:38,450 --> 00:43:46,100 At the same time, also, the British did start surveilling other or create communities in Cayo and in Tugun. 354 00:43:46,100 --> 00:43:54,020 So it wasn't just an Nandy that suffered. But in the middle of this period in the mid 1950s, a Syrian army commander makes another appearance. 355 00:43:54,020 --> 00:44:01,040 This is the guy you remember who had led the Rising in 1923 and is at least putatively Kotal son. 356 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:14,070 And he organises the raising of squatters yet again, and he tries to get a group of young men to come with him to found a new community. 357 00:44:14,070 --> 00:44:19,090 And which he calls the promised land after I have missed my word of my slide, the promised land. 358 00:44:19,090 --> 00:44:27,040 And they they are all caught and arrested by the colonial authorities in the west against Valley on the edge of like yippy escarpment, 359 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:34,280 where they've marched from Nandy, 100 kilometres where they are planning to lead a rising. 360 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:41,980 No, I won't. I haven't got time to explain the background to this, but basically, Bashary owns Rising, involves echoes of Momoh. 361 00:44:41,980 --> 00:44:47,470 It also involves elements of the Dinni of a somewhat church movement and background to that. 362 00:44:47,470 --> 00:44:51,850 So it's a mixture of different things. And the image here. I'm afraid I couldn't get a better one. 363 00:44:51,850 --> 00:45:00,610 But this is an image of them, of the Syrian meeting, Jomo Kenyatta, after he comes out of detention in 1964. 364 00:45:00,610 --> 00:45:10,600 So Sherene is arrested in 57 and is exiled to Lake Unfund Ghana Island on Lake Jansma, where he spent his time. 365 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:18,790 Next slide, please. So this is my last slide and my my final comment. 366 00:45:18,790 --> 00:45:29,100 So am. In the colonial period, then the stigmatisation of the two lives is very clear. 367 00:45:29,100 --> 00:45:35,250 After independence, it is very hard for them to get rid of that stigmatisation. 368 00:45:35,250 --> 00:45:47,390 They are allowed back from Glassie in 63 64 and they come back to Crete show, but they find that local communities don't welcome them. 369 00:45:47,390 --> 00:45:55,130 Christian communities in particular alienate them, and they are only given land in a very poor and rundown area, 370 00:45:55,130 --> 00:46:01,220 and they're discouraged from participating in other land buying projects that are going on at the time. 371 00:46:01,220 --> 00:46:09,440 So essentially, they're excluded and they're put in a kind of poverty trap where no one really offers them assistance or help. 372 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:13,220 They can't even get jobs very easily. They can't get admission to schools. 373 00:46:13,220 --> 00:46:16,550 All kinds of difficulties are put in their way. 374 00:46:16,550 --> 00:46:22,950 Now, please bear in mind that what I'm saying now is that these difficulties are not put in way by a colonial administration. 375 00:46:22,950 --> 00:46:32,060 They're putting their way by a Kenyan independent administration that still continues to treat its ally in the same way. 376 00:46:32,060 --> 00:46:39,460 Now, over the years of the 60s and 70s, that Allai make various representations to the Kenyan government to try and change that. 377 00:46:39,460 --> 00:46:45,050 And they try and approach the president. They are to portray his ministers to try and alter their position, 378 00:46:45,050 --> 00:46:57,450 but that their social ostracising amongst elements of their own community remains a very strong feature right up into the 1990s. 379 00:46:57,450 --> 00:47:02,360 And it it it in some to some extent, it can still be seen today. 380 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:10,650 There are still elements of this around. So to lie are not always popular neighbours in some parts of the collision area. 381 00:47:10,650 --> 00:47:19,590 And there are sporadically issues around this. So go back a few years and you find that in in one part of Londa Jani to lie, 382 00:47:19,590 --> 00:47:24,300 residents had their houses burnt out by neighbours who suspected them of being 383 00:47:24,300 --> 00:47:28,650 responsible for some occult practises that adversely affected the community. 384 00:47:28,650 --> 00:47:35,460 So the residuals of their reputation continue to run through the way in which they are treated in their communities. 385 00:47:35,460 --> 00:47:40,620 Now, a couple of features of this have to be mentioned because they're very important. 386 00:47:40,620 --> 00:47:44,120 And one is in the title of my paper, Autochthonous. 387 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:52,940 Since the 1970 1960s, Calingiri in politics has been dominated by the notion of Majin Buddhism regionalism. 388 00:47:52,940 --> 00:48:02,300 And it has manifested itself in the 60s and again in the 90s in an autochthonous political movement that has 389 00:48:02,300 --> 00:48:11,610 sought to possess Klinge in lands only for Cannon Gene and has been active in trying to expel other communities. 390 00:48:11,610 --> 00:48:16,550 This happened in the early 60s. It's happened again in 1994. 391 00:48:16,550 --> 00:48:30,740 Again in 1997. Again in 2008. Now, regrettably, in each of these occasions or Koike have been allegedly involved in organising that violence. 392 00:48:30,740 --> 00:48:36,950 I say allegedly because these are press reports and we cannot be actually certain of their truth. 393 00:48:36,950 --> 00:48:43,400 But it was also mentioned in a couple of government reports that this needed to be investigated. 394 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,420 Now, the truth is that I'm not going to debate the truth of that. 395 00:48:47,420 --> 00:48:57,110 The important thing is I think the fact is suspected is enough to give to lie a further bad reputation and to worsen their position. 396 00:48:57,110 --> 00:49:06,080 And that makes it very awkward. So they have become associated with autochthonous politics, which I don't believe they all support, 397 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:15,440 but they become associated with it and they become associate with the advocacy of a strong Khalaji in cultural identity. 398 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:22,850 So you support your Koike by supporting your koya, you demonstrate that you are challenging. 399 00:49:22,850 --> 00:49:27,320 This is a cultural icon of your identity. 400 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:37,760 Now, the last point to make is that that's become very important in the last four years because that's Allai have become involved in a legal case. 401 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:47,540 They are claiming reparations for their removal from Glassey and for their subjugation and segregation at Capsis here and elsewhere. 402 00:49:47,540 --> 00:49:53,810 And they're claiming those through appeals to the Kenyan Historical Injustices Commission. 403 00:49:53,810 --> 00:49:57,650 And they have been looking for ways to launch cases in the courts. 404 00:49:57,650 --> 00:50:04,850 They would ideally like launch a case in the British courts against the British government for the way the colonial government treated them. 405 00:50:04,850 --> 00:50:16,490 Now these cases have been supported by the county governor in KIPP's IGIS and Capriccio in particular, and have therefore gained a degree of traction. 406 00:50:16,490 --> 00:50:24,340 The case has become entangled, I think would be the best way to put it with a case against the Teare states increase you. 407 00:50:24,340 --> 00:50:27,440 And I don't think that's necessarily helping the to lie very much. 408 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:33,110 But they become entangled with that case and that's got them a great deal of publicity. 409 00:50:33,110 --> 00:50:39,440 So at the moment, as a result of their claim that there are efforts with the Historical Injustice Commission that 410 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:45,740 lie are probably getting a better press and fairer coverage than they've had for many a year, 411 00:50:45,740 --> 00:50:50,810 and they are to some extent now working to to improve their reputation. 412 00:50:50,810 --> 00:50:54,800 And as you saw from the story that I began with. 413 00:50:54,800 --> 00:51:02,180 When? When? The deputy president, William Ruto, went to be blessed by the to lie. 414 00:51:02,180 --> 00:51:06,950 The leading host for his blessing was an Anglican priest. 415 00:51:06,950 --> 00:51:14,600 And many leading members of this community are now closely associated with Christian churches. 416 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:25,010 So that part contradiction has now become less of a contradiction in that Calli themselves are often Christians, 417 00:51:25,010 --> 00:51:30,110 but still support the Klan and its cultural values. 418 00:51:30,110 --> 00:51:34,670 And that's why my last image is here of Coyle's Muslim. 419 00:51:34,670 --> 00:51:42,830 Because in the last 15 to 20 years, the role of the Okoye has become a matter of public heritage. 420 00:51:42,830 --> 00:51:51,830 So CalEnergy, in a matter of public display and Caldwells Muslim in the Nandy Hills, is a good example of that, 421 00:51:51,830 --> 00:51:57,980 of the display of cultural artefacts and of a sense of cultural belonging and identity. 422 00:51:57,980 --> 00:52:08,450 And this also is helping to reconstitute the reputation of to lie and to put them in a different place in terms of the politics of Kenya. 423 00:52:08,450 --> 00:52:15,820 However, the story I started with of William Ruto, whose blessing might work a little bit against that. 424 00:52:15,820 --> 00:52:26,120 In fact, I think it works a lot against that because it brings up the fact that to lie are still seemingly positioning themselves in Kenya's 425 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:34,400 politics and therefore making it quite difficult for some groups to support them and to give them the backing that they would like. 426 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:41,720 And that may, in fact, I think, cut against some of the gains they're making to the Historical Injustice Commission. 427 00:52:41,720 --> 00:52:47,180 Now, there's also a lot more I could say, but I'm going to leave it there. I think that has given you more than enough to go on. 428 00:52:47,180 --> 00:52:58,450 I'm happy to answer questions on on any aspect of this. We I know we have in the audience two or three historians, local historians of of to lie. 429 00:52:58,450 --> 00:53:04,910 And they may, I'm sure, will want to ask a question or two, but I'm very happy to take any up any the points I've mentioned. 430 00:53:04,910 --> 00:53:10,930 Thank you. David, thanks very much for your paper. 431 00:53:10,930 --> 00:53:14,230 Let's move swiftly on two to two questions from the audience. 432 00:53:14,230 --> 00:53:23,680 So if you do have a question, please either type it in the in the chat and I'll endeavour to keep an eye on that or raise. 433 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,970 Raise your hands with the hands raising functions on teams. 434 00:53:27,970 --> 00:53:33,840 Or if you just like to appear using your camera and wave madly, I should be able to spot you as well. 435 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:37,840 And if you're willing to turn your camera on when you ask your question, that's that's. 436 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:43,510 That would be great. Do we have any any questions? 437 00:53:43,510 --> 00:53:49,248 Yeah. So we've got Ben Knight and.