1 00:00:03,150 --> 00:00:10,260 Good afternoon and welcome, everybody. I'm as always, delighted to present our speakers each time we meet. 2 00:00:10,260 --> 00:00:19,950 But this time again, it's a it's a genuine personal present to present also a friend and just a visiting speaker, Professor Ernest Levy, 3 00:00:20,340 --> 00:00:28,469 who served just until recently as the head of the Department of Sociology and Anthropology at Bar-Ilan University in Israel, 4 00:00:28,470 --> 00:00:35,070 and also an associate professor at the Program of Gender Studies at the University of Maine. 5 00:00:35,070 --> 00:00:39,270 Research focuses on the field of gender and militarism. 6 00:00:39,900 --> 00:00:50,550 Her most recent English publication is Women Soldiers and Citizenship in the Observer in Israel Gendered Encounter with the State, 7 00:00:51,390 --> 00:00:58,350 co-authored with an obscure father and just recently a Hebrew book published, 8 00:00:58,620 --> 00:01:06,960 MacDowell bases co-edited volume dealing with roughly the same topics but a completely different book. 9 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:13,500 And the title of her talk today is Gender Citizenship The Case of Women Breaking the Silence. 10 00:01:13,770 --> 00:01:16,880 I want to thank you for coming back. 11 00:01:16,980 --> 00:01:21,060 Thank you for inviting me, Yaacov, and thank you for joining me this afternoon in Oxford. 12 00:01:21,090 --> 00:01:30,299 It's really exciting and it's a little honoured to speak at Oxford. My purpose today is a real articulation of the ideas proposed in this book, 13 00:01:30,300 --> 00:01:39,000 co-authored by Professor Edna Lansky Further than Myself, which explores the meanings of women's military service in Israel. 14 00:01:39,630 --> 00:01:51,600 In this book, we argue that mandatory military service for women becomes a major arena for processes of initiation into gendered citizenship. 15 00:01:52,230 --> 00:01:55,650 The military is one of the main arenas for civic participation, 16 00:01:56,100 --> 00:02:02,550 since it is the institution most closely associated with a state both on its allergies and its practices. 17 00:02:03,210 --> 00:02:08,490 Thus, we understand the military is a contact zone while the citizen and the state meet. 18 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:14,460 The encounters with a state are always shaped by gender, ideologies and gendered interests, 19 00:02:14,940 --> 00:02:19,140 which are especially pronounced in the military, which is a hyper masculine organisation. 20 00:02:19,890 --> 00:02:21,900 Therefore, we analyse military service. 21 00:02:21,900 --> 00:02:30,810 Is it citizenship, conferring institution and focus and how it shapes the way women perceive the state and experience those citizenship. 22 00:02:31,590 --> 00:02:36,510 Although the initiation processes into citizenship welcoming to all Jewish women in Israel. 23 00:02:36,930 --> 00:02:42,930 Their perceptions and experiences of citizenship are not uniform and should be studied according to 24 00:02:42,930 --> 00:02:49,290 ethnic and class intersections and also according to the role that they fulfil in the military. 25 00:02:50,430 --> 00:02:56,489 In my lecture today, I want to explore one specific group of women those who have served in the occupied 26 00:02:56,490 --> 00:03:02,400 territories and testified to an anti-occupation movement called Breaking the Silence. 27 00:03:02,910 --> 00:03:09,630 My question will be why have these women come out and talk about violent experiences in the military 28 00:03:10,230 --> 00:03:16,140 when the common norm in Israel is to deny violence and to silence experiences of violence? 29 00:03:16,890 --> 00:03:21,990 I will open by introducing fully analytical concepts that we developed in the book that 30 00:03:21,990 --> 00:03:26,760 I believe can help us understand women's military experience beyond the Israeli case. 31 00:03:26,970 --> 00:03:32,100 And specifically, they can help us understand the minority of women who choose to speak up and talk. 32 00:03:32,790 --> 00:03:36,900 First, however, I want to present the larger context. Israel is a sewer. 33 00:03:36,930 --> 00:03:42,450 Most of you know it's still the only country in the world with mandatory conscription for women. 34 00:03:43,530 --> 00:03:56,249 60% of all Jewish women enlist, and they present a food of the regular military significantly, significantly more than any other Western military. 35 00:03:56,250 --> 00:04:02,010 Most Western militaries, women up to 15%, the most, usually around 10%. 36 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:12,660 Interestingly, though, this has been so since the establishment of the state in 1948, women's military service did not become taken for granted. 37 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:20,910 It is highly controversial during various groups into heated arguments again and again, and particularly with regard to women in combat. 38 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:30,690 Indeed, since the mid-nineties, the military's gender regime has undergone significant changes, such as opening up combat roles for women, 39 00:04:31,020 --> 00:04:38,910 dismantling the women's codes and gender, integrating of most military courses from basic training to officers courses. 40 00:04:39,750 --> 00:04:46,080 Today, the military gender regime is no longer dichotomous in coherence to actual as it used to be. 41 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,709 The men are the warriors and the women of the secretaries. Rather, 42 00:04:49,710 --> 00:04:55,890 it's a very dynamic field operating under the influence of conflicting pressures religious forces 43 00:04:55,890 --> 00:05:02,430 and conservative process and masculine forces press for maintaining a clearly segregated gender. 44 00:05:02,540 --> 00:05:07,250 Although within the military they will be aquatic forces, mainly the media. 45 00:05:07,260 --> 00:05:12,800 Human Powell and feminist and liberal forces are working to integrate women. 46 00:05:13,730 --> 00:05:20,840 These changes are not unique to the Israeli military. I want to remind you that in December 2015, former Defence Secretary in the US, 47 00:05:21,020 --> 00:05:26,840 Ashton Carter, declared that all combat was will be open to women in the US forces. 48 00:05:27,170 --> 00:05:35,270 And as you know, maybe few weeks ago on October 25, the British government made a very similar announcement about the British armed forces. 49 00:05:35,870 --> 00:05:40,339 In light of these dynamic forces, we seek to discard binary notions. 50 00:05:40,340 --> 00:05:43,700 When I say we mean my colleague who is not who, 51 00:05:44,300 --> 00:05:53,510 we seek to discard binary notions of gender power relations and examined the organisation as one comprised of multiple gender arrangements. 52 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:59,660 Gendered analysis of women's military service used to assume a fairly binary perspective, 53 00:05:59,990 --> 00:06:06,530 arguing that military service is either a mechanism for social mobilisation and equal citizenship. 54 00:06:06,530 --> 00:06:07,909 And that's the liberal feminism. 55 00:06:07,910 --> 00:06:16,240 Of course, all of that ification of mass citizenship and a form of cooperation with a patriarchal, inviolate institution. 56 00:06:16,250 --> 00:06:22,250 This is the attitude of radical feminism will reject these two schemas as too simplistic, 57 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:31,940 and we aim to problematise these assumptions and argue that the military's inequality regime both create valid opportunities and 58 00:06:31,940 --> 00:06:40,100 set various obstacles for different intersectional groups of women and thereby generating diverse encounters with the state. 59 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,459 Against this backdrop, I will be search. 60 00:06:43,460 --> 00:06:51,440 Ask how women cope with an encounter with a state for their participation in the institution most closely associated with citizenship. 61 00:06:51,980 --> 00:06:58,459 We interviewed over 120 women and we got testimonies of 20 women who gave 62 00:06:58,460 --> 00:07:03,140 testimonies to Breaking the silence about a decade after the military service. 63 00:07:03,740 --> 00:07:05,720 Based on the analysis of the interviews. 64 00:07:06,140 --> 00:07:14,900 We contend that gendered encounters with the state can be understood through three interrelated concepts multilevel contracts, 65 00:07:15,260 --> 00:07:18,680 contrasting gendered experiences, and this acknowledging violence. 66 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:27,590 And I will start with the first one. The experience of military service is shaped by differential social contract between the state and the citizen, 67 00:07:28,310 --> 00:07:35,270 which reflects both formal citizen duties and rights and informal expectations and obligations. 68 00:07:35,750 --> 00:07:42,590 The contract, which is a product of cost negotiations and power relations between the two sides uneven two sides, 69 00:07:42,590 --> 00:07:50,900 the military and the soldier derives its unique character from the cultural schema that shaped the women's expectations of service. 70 00:07:51,530 --> 00:08:01,489 The meaning of the women's service is shaped by the nature of the contract and by whether it was fulfilled or violated during the service. 71 00:08:01,490 --> 00:08:04,070 And I'll give you one example only. We have more in the book. 72 00:08:04,850 --> 00:08:10,850 We discovered that women who serve the secretaries present two very different narratives about the service. 73 00:08:11,150 --> 00:08:17,780 Lower class women who serve the secretaries describe the service is enriching and empowering experience. 74 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:28,370 This very positive interpretation emerges from the informal contract which sees military service as a venue to achieve a sense of respectability. 75 00:08:28,370 --> 00:08:32,150 Respectability is the term of Beverly Scaggs, and according to Scaggs, 76 00:08:32,210 --> 00:08:37,760 respectability connects personal identity with national identity and national belonging. 77 00:08:39,110 --> 00:08:49,100 In contrast, middle class women enlist into in the military with a sense of entitlement to self-fulfilment and also to gender equality. 78 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:57,290 They expect to serve in a prestigious role that will advance their social status and showcase their personal abilities. 79 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:04,790 Service as a secretary, which pushes them back into the role that symbolises traditional femininity, 80 00:09:05,150 --> 00:09:12,590 is experienced as a gross violation of the contract, and they talk about the service in terms of dispel disappointment. 81 00:09:12,650 --> 00:09:17,120 To our mind, one of them even said holocaust about military service. 82 00:09:18,140 --> 00:09:24,350 That is so lower class women. Military service is perceived as a path to acquiring respectability. 83 00:09:24,770 --> 00:09:34,130 Inclusion in the political collective in the military fulfils its part of the contract for military force for middle class women. 84 00:09:34,580 --> 00:09:42,890 Military service is supposed to ensure their preferred status within the bodies of the collective service as a secretary is considered 85 00:09:42,900 --> 00:09:49,970 abrogation of the contract and they are deeply disappointed and it's also reflected in the way they talk about the citizenship in these lines. 86 00:09:51,020 --> 00:09:55,250 The second concept contrasting gendered experiences. 87 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:01,940 Despite the military organisation being hypermasculine, it actually offers women. 88 00:10:02,420 --> 00:10:06,440 I'll do a range of gendered experiences. Then the civilian labour market. 89 00:10:06,950 --> 00:10:12,800 Military service pushes some women into traditional feminine walls, just like the secretaries that I just mentioned. 90 00:10:13,310 --> 00:10:18,709 But also many other women get a chance to experience bluelink of gender experiences. 91 00:10:18,710 --> 00:10:24,500 For example, if they serve in the intelligence wars and the intelligence is the biggest unit in the Israeli military, 92 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:33,140 and the growing number of women get a chance to cross gender boundaries by solving injuries, combat instructors, all combat soldiers. 93 00:10:33,830 --> 00:10:42,020 These various wars could very different gendered experiences from the point of view of body, of sexuality, of emotional management. 94 00:10:42,470 --> 00:10:47,300 Through their embodied experiences, they learn the positions in the army. 95 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,710 They learn the boundaries of the body, the boundaries of the military power, 96 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:59,629 etc. These women's military experience provide concrete meaning to their participatory citizenship. 97 00:10:59,630 --> 00:11:05,120 It teaches them the position in the hyper masculine organisation, in the position vis a vis the state. 98 00:11:05,420 --> 00:11:12,140 I must also say that although the military offers a very wide range of experiences. 99 00:11:13,180 --> 00:11:20,680 His experience is always shaped and interpreted in light of the image of the combat soldier who embodies the nation state, 100 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:27,340 embodies the ultimate citizen. This image demarcated the women's marginality and limits them. 101 00:11:27,790 --> 00:11:33,370 That is, the military open up into opportunities for a variety of gendered experiences, 102 00:11:33,700 --> 00:11:41,950 but at the same time clearly lays down the patriarchal boundaries in the less concept this acknowledging violence. 103 00:11:41,980 --> 00:11:47,530 How do women soldiers experience, discuss or deny militarised violence? 104 00:11:48,700 --> 00:11:53,560 The military, by definition, is the organisation authorised to use violence and behalf of the state. 105 00:11:53,590 --> 00:11:58,270 That's the sociological definition. It is saturated with violence, 106 00:11:58,540 --> 00:12:03,820 whether directed outside to those who are defined as enemies or directed inside 107 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:09,190 towards women is sexual harassment and towards men very often in the form of hazing. 108 00:12:10,210 --> 00:12:15,370 These soldiers of both agents and victims of military militarised violence. 109 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:25,510 Surprisingly, however, when we interview soldiers, mostly women, they do not discuss the violence of war and occupation. 110 00:12:25,930 --> 00:12:33,430 We heard a thunderous silence, so much so that you would think to talk about a different place in the woman in the labour market, 111 00:12:33,850 --> 00:12:41,620 just a regular civilian workplace, and that about service in a force that has been controlling a hostile civilian population for over 50 years. 112 00:12:42,970 --> 00:12:49,330 The very few women willing to break the silence were the ones who testified to the organisation Breaking the Silence. 113 00:12:49,690 --> 00:12:53,290 So it's their political voice and agency that I want to explore today. 114 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:59,530 So this was the introduction and one more shot introduction about breaking the silence. 115 00:12:59,860 --> 00:13:05,200 Breaking the silence is an anti occupation protest movement, which started out in 2004, 116 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:09,010 was an organisation of men who completed the service in the Occupied Territories. 117 00:13:09,610 --> 00:13:17,530 They documented and published testimonies of abuse of Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip since 2010. 118 00:13:17,980 --> 00:13:23,560 They publish testimonies of their ongoing situation, publishes testimonies by women soldiers. 119 00:13:23,890 --> 00:13:32,140 So for the first time, women veterans publicly presented eyewitness testimonies to an anti-war movement for the first time in Israel. 120 00:13:32,380 --> 00:13:39,340 It doesn't happen in many other countries. Also today, the group is same. 121 00:13:42,190 --> 00:13:49,300 The target of a campaign of persecution and defamation lies by the government, together with extreme right wing NGOs. 122 00:13:50,560 --> 00:13:55,480 I want to give you just an example of what they do. Of a testimony by a woman. 123 00:13:55,600 --> 00:14:02,040 Can you claim escape? Okay. 124 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:10,169 So this is one example. It has English subtitles of a woman giving a testimony which shows you that they're not staying anonymous anymore. 125 00:14:10,170 --> 00:14:13,800 They're giving testimonies with their face open. So naturally, Shelly will go on. 126 00:14:14,890 --> 00:14:21,970 Chilling images shot in the Gulf in Tennessee all of late last year will be hosting the skies above, 127 00:14:22,510 --> 00:14:29,350 ensuring Rudy and his counties are not able to leave the function of Qaddafi at the moment. 128 00:14:30,430 --> 00:14:36,739 Yeah, I know. It's, you know, kind of an event that is about yourself. 129 00:14:36,740 --> 00:14:44,010 She had a piece of me. The Lord condemned you and I. 130 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:51,240 Adorable the whole thing. Honey, I am a child, he said. I know a lot of families should not be able to. 131 00:14:52,020 --> 00:14:54,310 That's a shame. 132 00:14:54,910 --> 00:15:07,390 Sure, I can call the team and talk about first things that can occur and look ahead to Shackleton and see that actually seeing to of itself. 133 00:15:08,370 --> 00:15:19,409 Havana, Cuba was the epicentre of the war. We can call on her emotional charm when it came out that I loved Man, that Moussa said. 134 00:15:19,410 --> 00:15:24,450 It wasn't so much who killed my will than my Yemeni. 135 00:15:24,450 --> 00:15:31,100 More Mohammad Mahamat came on my show as emotional instead of as anybody forget. 136 00:15:31,130 --> 00:15:35,160 He actually she meant the aftermath of the Somali girl. 137 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,880 I think they now. 138 00:15:40,300 --> 00:15:47,170 No no majority party which I am majority minority try to show by design matching is 139 00:15:47,170 --> 00:15:50,800 that your membership of the humanity of your class not forgetting what is the key? 140 00:15:51,910 --> 00:16:01,780 They tell me shyama I have to tell you until MADDOW said kingdom as it in Somalia. 141 00:16:01,780 --> 00:16:11,540 And I thought, God, that was so funny because any man and all that seem to be to help so much more. 142 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:20,260 And so I morpheme but mostly all I had a month before the and then with the old. 143 00:16:31,130 --> 00:16:34,670 Okay. Okay. 144 00:16:35,980 --> 00:16:38,990 So this was just an example, not a very lovely one. 145 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:47,919 Based on the first 20 testimonies, we argued that the metanarrative that organises the women's testimonies is an 146 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:53,380 ongoing tension between acknowledging and this acknowledging military violence. 147 00:16:53,860 --> 00:17:01,240 In the testimonies, the women declared that they had valuable knowledge on what occurred and they describe different behaviours. 148 00:17:01,570 --> 00:17:10,060 At the same time, however, they claimed that they did not know what really happened and frequently argued that they would rather not have known. 149 00:17:10,300 --> 00:17:14,260 So the question of knowing or unknowing and gender is what interests me today. 150 00:17:14,620 --> 00:17:22,050 Let's hear the false testimony. Neufeld served as a company clerk located in the occupied city of Cleveland. 151 00:17:22,370 --> 00:17:29,620 Well, hundred and 63,000 Palestinians bullied and intimidated by about a thousand Jewish settlers. 152 00:17:29,980 --> 00:17:35,110 Now, first interview will himself an ex-con but soldier and an activist ask so. 153 00:17:38,140 --> 00:17:43,980 Mm hmm. It's a grown man. Okay. It's not automatic. 154 00:17:45,300 --> 00:17:49,080 Okay. Oh, okay. It's okay. There was video, right? 155 00:17:51,620 --> 00:17:55,889 Wow. Okay, good. So he says, but you know, that they detain people. 156 00:17:55,890 --> 00:17:59,280 And she says, but I never saw the detainees know, did I know exactly. 157 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:04,980 I didn't engage in operational activities. I think I pretty much didn't want to know, like it wasn't part of my job. 158 00:18:05,250 --> 00:18:08,280 But with all your political awareness. No, there wasn't any. 159 00:18:08,290 --> 00:18:11,309 No, I wasn't aware. Maybe I close my eyes to it. 160 00:18:11,310 --> 00:18:16,500 Maybe I didn't want to know that I was there. But you will really in the middle of action. 161 00:18:16,830 --> 00:18:21,720 That's right. But, you know, I sort of didn't see I don't know, I sort of closed my eyes. 162 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:27,600 But that's because it was too hard for me. If I had really been engaged in it, then maybe. 163 00:18:27,810 --> 00:18:32,520 And he says, So what will you engage in? And she says, The soldiers and they. 164 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:37,650 Social activity, social events, personal conversations. 165 00:18:38,940 --> 00:18:44,040 Yep. And he says, but the reality was two metres away. 166 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,100 He's pushing her. And she says, and I didn't relate to it. 167 00:18:47,370 --> 00:18:50,810 I don't know regarding the Palestinians. I don't know. I didn't ask. 168 00:18:50,820 --> 00:18:55,190 They didn't tell me. As you can hear him, repeat it time and time again, the voices. 169 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,820 I don't know if I could easily choose not to know because the job did not do. 170 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:05,040 I had to leave the base and she did not directly encounter day to day reality of the occupation. 171 00:19:05,550 --> 00:19:14,760 Nonetheless, one event pierced a wall of not knowing the day she encountered the headscarf, handcuffed Palestinian detainee inside the base. 172 00:19:15,090 --> 00:19:19,050 This was her politicising moment. Well, she chose to know. 173 00:19:19,470 --> 00:19:23,370 Consequently, she wanted to hold discussions and ethics among the soldiers. 174 00:19:23,670 --> 00:19:25,290 But [INAUDIBLE], Commander would not allow it. 175 00:19:25,620 --> 00:19:31,730 The interviewer, from breaking the silence wide, wondered why no file did not insist on talking to soldiers. 176 00:19:31,740 --> 00:19:35,220 And she said, I think it was because of two reasons. 177 00:19:36,270 --> 00:19:40,230 One, because it was heavily involved in my social soldier's social life. 178 00:19:40,860 --> 00:19:44,429 And that was just to make things fun for them and take them out of the trenches. 179 00:19:44,430 --> 00:19:52,020 And also, I didn't want to be the leftist who raises these issues because I wanted to be the company cleared for everybody. 180 00:19:52,810 --> 00:19:58,530 A second soldier, Gilad, served as a lookout. She could not say to know what was going on. 181 00:19:58,740 --> 00:20:04,290 She was proud of her professional knowledge, which protected her from facing moral and emotional questions. 182 00:20:04,860 --> 00:20:12,990 How politicising a moment was when she reported and what appeared to be four Palestinian children preparing to throw a molotov cocktail. 183 00:20:13,740 --> 00:20:22,170 The military responded with live fire and later it emerged that one of the children was killed in the wake of this incident. 184 00:20:22,620 --> 00:20:33,300 I realised that despite the sophisticated knowledge and very clear rules of engagement, everyone was operating under a very high level of uncertainty. 185 00:20:33,780 --> 00:20:42,720 Furthermore, she learned that her professional knowledge was enlisted to construct a little active narrative used to justify the shooting. 186 00:20:42,990 --> 00:20:49,980 In testimony, she described her debriefing with an investigator from the Shabak, the Israeli and MI5. 187 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,290 He asked me to give a written account of the incident as it occurred. 188 00:20:55,890 --> 00:20:59,490 That's it. Then you will have to sign it. And you'll done. 189 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:04,500 And what did you write? What if seen? But then I wasn't certain of what I've seen. 190 00:21:04,770 --> 00:21:09,660 I wasn't certain. But it did happen. And he says, Why weren't you certain? 191 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,819 Why wasn't I certain? Because it wasn't that bad with the boys. 192 00:21:14,820 --> 00:21:21,450 They didn't affect anything. And also because you start to ask yourself, so supposing they just put their hands up. 193 00:21:22,050 --> 00:21:27,840 I told the investigator what I recall happening and then I asked him What happens if it didn't in fact happen. 194 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:34,590 He said that even if it didn't happen, they would confess. So the interviewer says, What does it mean they would confess? 195 00:21:34,590 --> 00:21:37,980 And she says, I didn't ask. I decided I do not know. 196 00:21:39,090 --> 00:21:46,230 So the stories of the Friday night demonstrate the movement between knowing and not knowing the violence of occupation. 197 00:21:46,530 --> 00:21:53,280 Of course, we can argue that they do not discuss the violence of occupation since they did not encounter directly. 198 00:21:53,970 --> 00:22:04,680 Yet it is clear that the silence is part of the denial and silencing mechanisms of the occupation that are very prevalent in Israeli society. 199 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:09,810 In an attempt to preserve the image of the just society and morally, militarily, 200 00:22:10,470 --> 00:22:15,540 Israeli society activates various mechanisms to deny military violence, 201 00:22:15,930 --> 00:22:20,430 including emphasising the Jewish victimhood, especially the Holocaust, 202 00:22:20,730 --> 00:22:25,950 stressing the traumatic discourse and ignoring completely Palestinian suffering. 203 00:22:26,910 --> 00:22:35,760 In this context, any discussion of the world violence itself, which I experience when I talk about it when I give this lectures in Hebrew, 204 00:22:36,150 --> 00:22:44,730 is perceived as treason, making it very difficult not only to object to military violence, but even to acknowledge it and cope with it morally. 205 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,530 Against this backdrop, the women who did manage to break the silence. 206 00:22:50,150 --> 00:22:54,260 And made the voice heard. Exceptional. A small minority. 207 00:22:54,800 --> 00:23:01,070 So I will now analyse the decision to break the silence, employing the analytical concepts that I mentioned before. 208 00:23:01,370 --> 00:23:13,140 The first one was multilevel contract. The women's decision to testify indicated the contract with a state includes a moral element. 209 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:21,240 As the military's violence is so often silenced or denied, they expect to serve in a very mobile military force. 210 00:23:21,660 --> 00:23:29,730 Accordingly, they further the experiences they went through in and to pay territories violated the moral clause in their contract. 211 00:23:30,300 --> 00:23:38,250 They came to realise that the military employs violence and regular basis and that the boundaries of legitimate Powell are very often crossed. 212 00:23:38,820 --> 00:23:46,020 It was this disillusionment and even rage of the violation of the contract that drove them to testify. 213 00:23:46,860 --> 00:23:55,950 Ghali story is a case in point. Before enlisting, Ghali had right wing views and she supported the occupation. 214 00:23:55,950 --> 00:24:03,630 And she voted for right wing parties serving as a Border Patrol police officer and the Jordanian model. 215 00:24:04,260 --> 00:24:08,490 She was in charge of controlling Palestinians movement including by the soldiers 216 00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:13,259 help politicising moment which which was completely life changing eventful 217 00:24:13,260 --> 00:24:17,130 [INAUDIBLE] occurred when the young woman was detained because a woman soldier 218 00:24:17,230 --> 00:24:22,110 complained that she talked burqa to Ghali perceived interaction is floating. 219 00:24:22,410 --> 00:24:25,649 She said to us in the interview, Take two, two. 220 00:24:25,650 --> 00:24:32,430 In the testimony, the Palestinian was sure that it was all in good fun because we're talking here about young people all the same age. 221 00:24:32,940 --> 00:24:38,190 But the interaction turned out into militarised power relations and the young man was detained. 222 00:24:38,490 --> 00:24:48,930 Gali said the station commander was responsible for everything that happened then and it was he who took the boy into detention and I followed them. 223 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:54,090 We got to the police station and they went into a closed woman. I remained outside the door. 224 00:24:54,270 --> 00:24:57,550 I didn't know why I stayed there. I didn't have to. 225 00:24:57,870 --> 00:25:05,190 I don't know. Something told me to stay. Now, looking back, I recall I heard through the closed door everything that was going on inside. 226 00:25:06,420 --> 00:25:10,650 It was then that Ghali became a direct witness to violence that went inside the home. 227 00:25:11,010 --> 00:25:14,010 And from that incident and world, she decided to know. 228 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,939 She started asking everyone she met. What did you do in the army? What did you do yesterday? 229 00:25:17,940 --> 00:25:25,620 What do you do in the military? She started taking testimonies herself, and her political point of view completely changed. 230 00:25:26,100 --> 00:25:32,240 And she became an activist. So neither who served in Cologne is an education officer. 231 00:25:32,550 --> 00:25:36,720 The politicising moment was first arrived on the base, the first, then the base, 232 00:25:37,050 --> 00:25:45,810 and she goes to meet the soldiers in the base and she finds out the soldiers steal prayer beads from the Palestinians. 233 00:25:45,810 --> 00:25:51,810 Prayer beads, massive budget. And she says, is it no soldier? 234 00:25:51,810 --> 00:25:52,860 And this and the base. 235 00:25:52,860 --> 00:25:59,309 I went to a routine welcome interview with a brigade commander the following day, and you ask me, So what do you think of the brigade? 236 00:25:59,310 --> 00:26:07,380 So file? And I said, It's fine, except that I saw soldiers with my belt and Korans from Qalqilya that they took as souvenirs. 237 00:26:08,950 --> 00:26:15,380 The commander followed up on the report with the soldiers. They to Mendell, who said, I've never seen this girl. 238 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:20,290 She's lying. She's making it up. What are you saying? My soldiers would never do a thing like that. 239 00:26:22,360 --> 00:26:26,820 And the confrontation between Iran and the commander continued over the phone. 240 00:26:26,830 --> 00:26:30,250 And that's what Neil said. I told him, look, it happened. 241 00:26:30,550 --> 00:26:34,750 And he said, Who are you anyway? You're pipsqueak. You don't understand anything. 242 00:26:34,990 --> 00:26:38,910 And from that moment on, I was banned from the company for four months. 243 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:47,110 I was not allowed near them. Sunil I was caught here between a loyalty to her soldiers and her loyalty to her own moral code. 244 00:26:47,410 --> 00:26:53,860 The violation of the moral code made her speak up and she was willing to pay the price for it. 245 00:26:54,130 --> 00:27:04,120 The politicising moments we find out that she and her male colleagues experience tuned out to destroy everything, to ruin everything. 246 00:27:04,510 --> 00:27:11,530 After this politicising moment, they disrupt the process of initiation into the military's gender regime. 247 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:18,010 They question the loyalty and belonging to the state, and they counteract compliance with a gendered citizenship. 248 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:28,030 The second concept is gendered experiences. The testimonies indicate that not only the violation of an implied mobile contract, 249 00:27:28,540 --> 00:27:33,670 but also the women's gendered experiences had a part in pushing them to speak up. 250 00:27:34,540 --> 00:27:39,999 Often these women were the first among the first women in combat units, 251 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,800 or the first to serve in support roles like the education wars in the Occupied Territories. 252 00:27:45,430 --> 00:27:49,240 The Army conveys to these women that they are crucially necessarily. 253 00:27:49,630 --> 00:27:54,730 But despite this, during the service, they have to cope with discrimination, 254 00:27:54,940 --> 00:28:06,160 exclusion and silencing those still active and distrust of the men soldiers will convey to the women through ongoing initiation rites, 255 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:12,880 challenge them to exhibit more violence to all Palestinians to prove that they deserve to be in combat. 256 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:19,030 Daphne Combatant described this like she said, five of us girls joined a new company. 257 00:28:19,870 --> 00:28:24,040 This was the first time girls served there. We had a difficult time. 258 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:32,050 Everyone looking at us testing as it was a truly battle for survival, always having to prove ourselves and live in the shadow of force. 259 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:42,550 Other women mentioned the loneliness of being only a few girls among dozens of men in a sexually charged atmosphere brimming with contempt for women, 260 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,770 inferior, live in condition and devalued. 261 00:28:45,770 --> 00:28:54,250 Was this narrative attached to the women's feeling of being outsiders within excluded from the camaraderie of men? 262 00:28:54,940 --> 00:28:58,150 The outsiders position has a silencing effect. 263 00:28:59,650 --> 00:29:06,850 The women often felt that they could not voice criticism or cast doubt because of the very real fear of being ostracised. 264 00:29:07,450 --> 00:29:15,910 The very few who did so well marked as leftist or informers and had to pay a small initiation light to prove their loyalty. 265 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:23,920 As the testimonies demonstrate that in addition to the general silencing mechanisms that I mentioned earlier, 266 00:29:24,310 --> 00:29:30,610 there were also specific gendered silencing mechanisms that are deployed specifically against women. 267 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,130 The ambivalent position as women in a masculinist environment. 268 00:29:36,790 --> 00:29:44,830 The experience of outsiders within and especially the gendered hostility they experienced, pushed them to speak up. 269 00:29:45,790 --> 00:29:52,990 Moreover, these experiences made them interpret the military day to day life, form a gender experience. 270 00:29:53,470 --> 00:30:04,600 In the testimonies, they very often criticised the men, the soldiers who abuse Palestinians and describe them as infantile, macho bravery. 271 00:30:05,470 --> 00:30:13,760 In particular, they blamed the male soldiers for having fun, for enjoying the violence, for being overenthusiastic. 272 00:30:13,780 --> 00:30:17,080 These are the ones that repeated again and again overenthusiastic. 273 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:24,280 Tell a combatant. Describe the men's soldiers behaviour during house searches, she said. 274 00:30:24,700 --> 00:30:28,420 The deputy company commander went out to map a Palestinian house. 275 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:37,060 When he came back he said to me, we messed up the house. He was so enthusiastic about it and instead of thinking, Wow, we are such men. 276 00:30:37,660 --> 00:30:45,520 In my mind, I was thinking about those women who are now cleaning up the mess that the soldiers made and the feel of the children at home. 277 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,720 So things like that happened. And then you surprised that the age of 18 they blow themselves up? 278 00:30:51,210 --> 00:30:57,930 Because criticism is directed at the man's behaviour characterised by enthusiasm and pleasure in violence. 279 00:30:58,290 --> 00:31:04,620 While the Commander demonstrated his masculinity by exhibiting his power over the occupied population, 280 00:31:05,190 --> 00:31:11,190 Taylor identified with the women victims of the suit by portraying the soldiers as immature. 281 00:31:11,220 --> 00:31:15,840 The women deconstruct the image of the demonic masculinity that is based on 282 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:20,700 the emotional and physically self-controlled and disciplined combat soldier. 283 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,400 Hence the women's ambivalent position in the military construct. 284 00:31:25,460 --> 00:31:30,720 How they know or do not know what takes place in the occupied territories. 285 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:39,410 The patriarchal ideology very often trivialises women into the position of the ones who don't know or don't know enough. 286 00:31:39,710 --> 00:31:47,000 Especially in the security arena. At the same time, the women are so disappointed. 287 00:31:48,620 --> 00:31:54,320 By the violation of the moral contract, which, together with a gendered experience, says, and that makes them speak up. 288 00:31:54,860 --> 00:32:04,400 The decision to testify reflects a position of knowledge as well as the ethical position to break the silence and give the knowledge a public voice. 289 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:11,630 Thus, the military's gender regime, which shapes the gendered experience, says, also shapes the political voice. 290 00:32:11,780 --> 00:32:15,880 And now we are coming towards the conclusion. Yes, living at home is the. 291 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:18,649 First of all, 292 00:32:18,650 --> 00:32:28,280 I want to emphasise not all women soldiers who have served in the territories experience in mobile crisis and most of them do not choose to testify. 293 00:32:28,290 --> 00:32:33,410 It's this very small minority that chooses to testify and talk about the service. 294 00:32:33,860 --> 00:32:44,000 So what does the silence of the majority teaches us and what and what the testimonies what do the testimonies teach us about gender citizenship? 295 00:32:46,070 --> 00:32:56,600 The ignorance of most women of military violence teaches us that violence is not a part of the women's perceived contract with the military. 296 00:32:57,170 --> 00:33:00,590 Most women do not expect to be exposed to violence. 297 00:33:01,190 --> 00:33:06,169 They enlist because this is the law and they expect to serve the service to give them 298 00:33:06,170 --> 00:33:10,270 a sense of respectability or belonging or boost the future of professional career. 299 00:33:11,030 --> 00:33:19,160 They do not expect to encounter violence. Conversely, in the men's contract with the military, violence is very central. 300 00:33:19,430 --> 00:33:24,860 Of course, the combat soldier knows he will encounter violence, but also men, combat soldiers. 301 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,299 Evaluate the service in comparison to the combat soldier. 302 00:33:29,300 --> 00:33:35,180 And they think about violence as violence is not part of women's contact with the military. 303 00:33:35,510 --> 00:33:38,690 We often see that when a woman soldier dies in action, 304 00:33:39,140 --> 00:33:46,550 the public outrage and anxiety are much more intense than when a woman civilian dies in a terrorist attack, for example. 305 00:33:47,330 --> 00:33:54,590 Hence, women combat participation challenges the perception that women need protection even when they are soldiers. 306 00:33:55,460 --> 00:34:06,900 And moreover, women in combat challenges, men's exclusiveness in the battlefield, and the resulting benefits that men get from the combat wars. 307 00:34:07,370 --> 00:34:17,180 This is why opening combat calls to women is declared on both sides of the Atlantic, raises such a powerful opposition, and especially so in Islam. 308 00:34:18,740 --> 00:34:24,870 Removing violence from women's contact with the military indicates the status as being a titans within. 309 00:34:24,890 --> 00:34:34,280 Of course they enlist, but they do not take part in the most tame central action of the military, which is participating in the violence. 310 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:41,060 Thus, they are marked as incomplete, militarily subject and hence lacking in the citizenship. 311 00:34:41,690 --> 00:34:44,910 Hence, women in Israel are not excluded from the public sphere. 312 00:34:44,930 --> 00:34:49,220 They are not excluded from the security field. They are not excluded from being citizens. 313 00:34:49,460 --> 00:34:52,460 Bath is killed, Pateman said many, many years ago. 314 00:34:53,270 --> 00:35:03,440 They are incorporated into public life as women, as beings whose sexual embodiment prevents them from enjoying the same political standing as men. 315 00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:13,400 In other words, the military service establishes them as citizens, but not as equal citizens with a line separating them from full citizenship. 316 00:35:13,700 --> 00:35:24,740 Is participating in military violence, hence participation in violence as a constituting role in shaping full citizenship in Israel. 317 00:35:25,790 --> 00:35:34,640 It's one of the saddest conclusions that we live definitely must assume, since violence is not part of women's contact with the military. 318 00:35:34,940 --> 00:35:44,300 Most women come to accept the traditional view of women in need of men's protection, and they internalise the marginal place also in civilian life. 319 00:35:44,990 --> 00:35:51,980 Taking that marginality for granted has two major implications for women's citizenship in Israel. 320 00:35:52,700 --> 00:36:02,030 The first implication is that women untangle the Republican link between military service and claiming civilian lives. 321 00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:10,580 Men very often require from the state symbolic and material benefits in return for the violent contribution, 322 00:36:11,180 --> 00:36:13,730 while women feel that they are not entitled to that. 323 00:36:14,210 --> 00:36:21,800 Many women feel grateful for having received the opportunity to constitute their belonging to the nation through military service. 324 00:36:22,070 --> 00:36:29,090 And they see it as the exercise of the civil right and its own that they do not claim any additional civil benefits. 325 00:36:29,450 --> 00:36:34,070 When women in Israel do claim civil benefits or make claims in the state. 326 00:36:34,310 --> 00:36:40,640 They do it usually as mothers, always mothers for soldiers rather than as veterans. 327 00:36:40,850 --> 00:36:46,550 And thus they produce the gendered citizenship and gendered civilian hierarchies. 328 00:36:48,500 --> 00:36:58,970 Second, since women do not take part in violence, they do not assume they can leverage their military service to obtain political voice, 329 00:36:59,450 --> 00:37:03,680 and they do not consider themselves entitled to political criticism. 330 00:37:05,420 --> 00:37:08,420 So the testimonies are very unique in that sense. 331 00:37:08,420 --> 00:37:15,410 The testimonies of the women silence breakers indicate what can make a woman soldier decide to speak. 332 00:37:16,100 --> 00:37:25,759 Truth to power is for Cozad. After all, brutal violations of the moral contract and of the gendered expectations lead to political 333 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:30,260 disillusionment and to the decision to be active in civil society organisations. 334 00:37:31,430 --> 00:37:39,830 We could say that is their politicising moments that captured the violation of the moral engendered contract and pushed them to speak up. 335 00:37:40,610 --> 00:37:46,009 Hence the case of the Silence Breakers show that military service can be a new source, 336 00:37:46,010 --> 00:37:50,750 an unexpected source for women's symbolic power in the political field. 337 00:37:51,350 --> 00:38:02,510 The hyper masculine organisation, which is very often marginalising women, can also be leveraged to justify political criticism and political agency. 338 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:13,459 However, of course, leveraging military service to justify a political voice is also a source of its weakness, because when women do so, 339 00:38:13,460 --> 00:38:23,570 they usually affirm the male dominated Republican ethos, the great Sally that grants political superiority and power to male warriors. 340 00:38:24,110 --> 00:38:30,170 Thus, the testimonies that produce the role of the military is a citizenship conferring institution, 341 00:38:30,470 --> 00:38:33,500 and they produce masculine power within the state. 342 00:38:34,070 --> 00:38:45,290 But this criticism notwithstanding, still, I want to conclude and said that the women's testimony offered an alternative framing of soldiering, 343 00:38:45,290 --> 00:38:53,990 gender and anti-military discourse, though by challenging the demonic masculinity of the combat soldier who embodies the nation state. 344 00:38:54,740 --> 00:39:01,190 Though testimonies through Sally Field testimonies like the ones we've seen and heard today, 345 00:39:01,820 --> 00:39:07,160 these women untie the Gordian knot between military state and masculinity. 346 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:07,910 Thank you.