1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:04,410 Okay. Let's make a start. Hello to those of you. 2 00:00:04,410 --> 00:00:10,280 Have we met before? I'm Lucy. I'm one of the careers advisers and I'm your link with the history department. 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:15,600 And you might see me as at talks like job hunting and arts and heritage or Arts Media Marketing Fair. 4 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:16,750 Back in November. 5 00:00:16,750 --> 00:00:23,040 And I'm the person that you can book individual appointments with if you'd like to to talk about this kind of thing in more individual detail, 6 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:28,260 if you would like to. I have a quick overview of what's going on today. 7 00:00:28,260 --> 00:00:37,200 So I'm going to start out with a little bit of a scene setting exercise, thinking about the bigger picture and what do our history of our students do. 8 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:45,780 So when you leave us spring, you sadly leave us and you will get hounded to complete a survey saying, what did you go on to do? 9 00:00:45,780 --> 00:00:50,430 And the results of that survey. And I can share with you. What are some other tips for thinking about your. 10 00:00:50,430 --> 00:00:55,460 What next questions after Oxford. You've got four fantastic speakers today. 11 00:00:55,460 --> 00:01:00,270 Avi's ask them to talk about what they do, how they got to be able to do it. 12 00:01:00,270 --> 00:01:07,850 Tips for those of you who are thinking of doing something similar and what they wish they'd known when they were sitting where you are now. 13 00:01:07,850 --> 00:01:12,510 And they've each got around 15 to 20 minutes to talk. We'll have questions after each speaker. 14 00:01:12,510 --> 00:01:17,670 And there's a whole panel right at the end as well. So do jot downs questions as we go along. 15 00:01:17,670 --> 00:01:26,910 We'll have a break in the middle and around here to have some tea and coffee and maybe even biscuits if we're very good. 16 00:01:26,910 --> 00:01:31,650 I think you got Becka's. And so what what do what do you do? 17 00:01:31,650 --> 00:01:40,350 What do history of art students do? Well, reassuringly, you beat nearly any every other humanities department. 18 00:01:40,350 --> 00:01:45,270 So I think we should feel slightly proud. Little bit of arrival maybe with some of the others. 19 00:01:45,270 --> 00:01:49,860 Only three percent of us are still looking. Six months after finishing our course. 20 00:01:49,860 --> 00:01:54,910 So this stage was taken from the B. A's, but it's roughly comparable with the massive history of art. 21 00:01:54,910 --> 00:02:01,500 And so there's a few people combining work and study. But the vast majority do go into it and work initially. 22 00:02:01,500 --> 00:02:09,000 And this is what they do, which I don't know if people find that surprising. Did you expect that this segment would be bigger? 23 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:16,080 Did you expect that maybe there's people from history of art that opposed the career in investment banking, an incredibly numerate discipline? 24 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:22,020 You could argue I find that slightly reassuring in lots of ways, that in the UK in particular, 25 00:02:22,020 --> 00:02:27,330 our degrees don't really define who we are as people in the same ways that sometimes your major can do it. 26 00:02:27,330 --> 00:02:36,000 A U.S. university is a little bit more flexibility in market and actually history of artists going to do a huge range of different things. 27 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:40,770 And part of your challenge, I guess, why you're here at Oxford is to figure out a bit about what makes you tick, 28 00:02:40,770 --> 00:02:45,150 what might make it add up to one of these things rather than something else. 29 00:02:45,150 --> 00:02:48,620 And it's not just the world that you work in. It's also the work that you do. 30 00:02:48,620 --> 00:02:55,590 So just like you did become the finance manager at the Tate, you could also do something entirely different. 31 00:02:55,590 --> 00:03:05,610 And so we break it down by sectors and also by roles of being in a frustratingly large category for lots of people doing communications type jobs, 32 00:03:05,610 --> 00:03:09,820 teachers, trainers, customer services, people front of house. 33 00:03:09,820 --> 00:03:15,720 There's lots people operational project roles, which could be anything from running and the layout of her exhibition, 34 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:23,730 or saw a job up yesterday on our service for someone who's an eight eight day job to design the layout of an exhibition. 35 00:03:23,730 --> 00:03:30,540 Interesting. As well as I.T. and finance and law and all kinds of different areas as well. 36 00:03:30,540 --> 00:03:40,560 The average starting salary was seventeen thousand five hundred and fifty pounds to people thinking behind me is a few people optimistic. 37 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,500 You thought it would be high. 38 00:03:43,500 --> 00:03:54,510 And realistically, I think given the sectors that we work in, if we go back, this large chunk isn't renowned for having the highest starting salaries. 39 00:03:54,510 --> 00:03:58,050 So there might well be something to think about if that's a really important factor for you, 40 00:03:58,050 --> 00:04:00,990 how it weighs into your career decisions that she can see, 41 00:04:00,990 --> 00:04:06,570 the breadth of people, of employers, that people go on to work for everyone from national government. 42 00:04:06,570 --> 00:04:13,020 And that's not just the UK national government. It's not even just working in culture related departments within national government. 43 00:04:13,020 --> 00:04:16,350 It's people who forged a career in foreign affairs and diplomacy. 44 00:04:16,350 --> 00:04:20,930 And if someone who was working in the Department of Work and Pensions, all kinds of different areas, 45 00:04:20,930 --> 00:04:26,310 people like an AP story arc who founded her own social enterprise to break the broken, 46 00:04:26,310 --> 00:04:36,430 spoke like co-op, getting a Tier one graduate visa as an American student to stay in that which is all the way one street away in Pembrook Street. 47 00:04:36,430 --> 00:04:41,520 And so really, really broad. LinkedIn is a fantastic resource. 48 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,360 And if anyone is thinking this is quite interesting just for ideas, 49 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:51,330 you can go into LinkedIn and on that top search bar, in that drop down menu as an option for universities. 50 00:04:51,330 --> 00:04:58,980 And you get to this page and you can click on the word explore careers of 100000 alumni. 51 00:04:58,980 --> 00:05:02,210 And then you can see. Fields have fields that are underneath that. 52 00:05:02,210 --> 00:05:05,870 You've got two screens worth of those and you can filter for people that have done history over. 53 00:05:05,870 --> 00:05:10,350 Although I think linked in with the art history in obstinate fashion. 54 00:05:10,350 --> 00:05:15,050 And you can see what just art history from the University of Oxford goes on to do. 55 00:05:15,050 --> 00:05:23,510 And given the fact that it's so broad, that might prove food for thought maybe as well as indeed he works in the sectors that you're interested in, 56 00:05:23,510 --> 00:05:27,640 from across the range of Oxford graduates and on the Chris Service website, 57 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:32,990 that can reconnect a bit some of you might be familiar with to look on has a alumni database. 58 00:05:32,990 --> 00:05:36,470 So there's two thousand alumni who would like to be helpful. 59 00:05:36,470 --> 00:05:43,460 Occasionally they bring us up and say no one is no one has emailed us is what I do not call. 60 00:05:43,460 --> 00:05:46,190 I had done just this week. It's sticking in my mind. 61 00:05:46,190 --> 00:05:53,800 The writer director of White Oleander for ITV, Peter Kosminski, is half fantastic writing, producing career. 62 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:59,630 And he sent me an email to say I never get asked is what I do not cool. 63 00:05:59,630 --> 00:06:07,910 So I ask people who make them feel warm and fluffy. And if that can be one way of deciding what to do next. 64 00:06:07,910 --> 00:06:13,010 So this is not a particularly sexy diagram, in my opinion. 65 00:06:13,010 --> 00:06:19,790 It's not that kind of exciting idea that you'll walk down the middle of Queen Street and suddenly a beam of light will shine upon you. 66 00:06:19,790 --> 00:06:26,300 Excellent. I know. Must go into curatorial work is suddenly I have a dawning realisation for most people 67 00:06:26,300 --> 00:06:30,170 is a little bit of a shuttling between figuring out a bit about what makes us tick. 68 00:06:30,170 --> 00:06:36,440 And that can be through first hand experience from events like this today and reading a little bit about those industries. 69 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,800 So I have to guide to arts and heritage here. If anyone's not got a copy. 70 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:44,780 Feel free to take one. They are genuinely better read online because I think I added up the links and there's 71 00:06:44,780 --> 00:06:50,780 over 150 different Web links in there to maybe the online version might be more suitable. 72 00:06:50,780 --> 00:06:51,350 But there's that. 73 00:06:51,350 --> 00:06:58,880 There's the Careers Creative Arts Briefing, which are about 45, about the different sectors to manage to download that for further thought. 74 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:04,640 And if you're finding it hard to review, filter and decide deciding what next. That might be a time to book an appointment. 75 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:08,660 So we do daily group discussions twice a day in our circle of chairs. 76 00:07:08,660 --> 00:07:13,280 Sometimes there are biscuits. If we've been very good, sometimes our biscuits. 77 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:18,290 And anyone can ask the question or give an answer. So it's a democratic discussion around a given topic. 78 00:07:18,290 --> 00:07:23,000 We call those career lounges used to individual appointments, including Skype and the vacation. 79 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:28,990 And you have us for life, which is a reassuring. So use this that if you need to. 80 00:07:28,990 --> 00:07:37,120 And I might suggest if someone's coming at this completely, not quite sure what makes fashion is a kind of example plan of action. 81 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:42,200 It's not what you have to do, but you might start out by reading online. 82 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:43,880 You might want to attend talks like this. 83 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:50,910 And there's lots more that go on in their time at Oxford as well, and maybe start thinking about getting some first hand experience. 84 00:07:50,910 --> 00:07:57,260 I think staying right here a little bit about people's experience of getting that first hand experience and when you're ready to apply, 85 00:07:57,260 --> 00:08:01,040 it always particularly is your first application. Come and talk to us. 86 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:05,450 We can have double cheque your applications and make sure that you're feeling happy with it. 87 00:08:05,450 --> 00:08:12,290 And one thing you could do if this is all filling baffling is I used to teach year seven and eight with year seven. 88 00:08:12,290 --> 00:08:17,870 We teach them smart targets, specific, measurable, achievable, realistic, time sensitive targets. 89 00:08:17,870 --> 00:08:21,050 Which means you're not going to say by the end of this term you're going to have the 90 00:08:21,050 --> 00:08:27,150 best ever internship lined up for the summer because that's not specific or measurable. 91 00:08:27,150 --> 00:08:30,230 But you might say by the end of next week, 92 00:08:30,230 --> 00:08:36,490 I want to have decided five websites that might be useful to help me find that data by the end of next month. 93 00:08:36,490 --> 00:08:40,310 When I've contacted three alumni through LinkedIn or through our system of just through 94 00:08:40,310 --> 00:08:46,670 the power of networking speculatively and who might prove helpful in helping me find. 95 00:08:46,670 --> 00:08:51,690 To give us a nice, easy targets, because this was already a bit of a maelstrom, I thought, 96 00:08:51,690 --> 00:08:56,750 and if you can give us a nice things to tick off, your list will make this whole process lovely. 97 00:08:56,750 --> 00:09:02,410 And so some conclusions. You're not pigeonholed. I think they're for good reasons to be positive. 98 00:09:02,410 --> 00:09:09,430 I really, really do. The media saying 85 percent of graduates are struggling to eat bread because they're so destitute. 99 00:09:09,430 --> 00:09:14,110 It's not the case. It genuinely isn't the case. Three percent of our students are unemployed. 100 00:09:14,110 --> 00:09:20,870 And the first, it doesn't define them. So it doesn't mean that you go into next has to be what you stay in for the rest of your life. 101 00:09:20,870 --> 00:09:28,570 Lots of people meander around. And unlike in things like law, for example, there isn't a path really. 102 00:09:28,570 --> 00:09:35,110 There isn't necessarily a you do this and then you do that kind of field and lots of jobs that relate exactly to your degree. 103 00:09:35,110 --> 00:09:46,396 So you have to kind of be okay with the fact that you make your own path that they might me, Andrew.