1 00:00:05,550 --> 00:00:11,400 Hello, everyone. My name is Chris Fletcher, Keeper of Special Collections here at the Bodleian. 2 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,550 And welcome to everyone in the room. 3 00:00:15,510 --> 00:00:23,830 For those who are joining us online, we've been really delighted at the interest shown in this symposium, 4 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,170 which promises to be great fun over the next couple of days. 5 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:38,010 So in 2011, the Bodleian was donated an archive documenting the making and reception of Agrippa, 6 00:00:38,100 --> 00:00:43,810 A Book of the Dead. It's among our most studied modern collections. 7 00:00:45,070 --> 00:00:51,430 The donor was Kevin Begos, who, along with the writer William Gibson and artist Denis Ashbaugh, 8 00:00:51,790 --> 00:00:56,110 stood behind the creation of this most provocative of books. 9 00:00:57,290 --> 00:01:03,650 I got to know Kevin over the years and was very sad when he died in 2021. 10 00:01:04,250 --> 00:01:11,870 He was very kind to me and to the Bodleian, and I hope this symposium does a little to celebrate his memory. 11 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:20,990 So over the next two days, we will hear from many people who've been involved in the history of Agrippa from its point of origin to the present day. 12 00:01:22,460 --> 00:01:31,340 I want to thank everyone who has agreed to participate, particularly those who have woken up very early to be with us on the other side of the pond. 13 00:01:32,390 --> 00:01:35,390 Nothing about Agrippa is predictable, 14 00:01:35,820 --> 00:01:42,500 and organising a symposium has thrown up some tremendous surprises, which I hope you'll enjoy along the way. 15 00:01:43,750 --> 00:01:51,040 There's one person to whom we owe particular thanks, and that is Justine Provino, who has organised this event. 16 00:01:51,620 --> 00:01:55,270 Justine is a DPhil candidate at Jesus College, Cambridge. 17 00:01:55,720 --> 00:02:01,600 whose research on Agrippa has been a pleasure to supervise jointly with Jason Scott Warren, 18 00:02:02,230 --> 00:02:09,190 Director of the Centre for Material Texts at Cambridge University, and we will hear from Jason tomorrow. 19 00:02:12,060 --> 00:02:14,940 As well as many individuals there are organisations to thank. 20 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:22,770 We would not be here without the Arts and Humanities Research Council, the Faculty of English and the Centre for Material Texts at Cambridge, 21 00:02:23,250 --> 00:02:29,010 Cambridge Digital Humanities and the Centre for the Study of the Book here at the Bodleian. 22 00:02:30,510 --> 00:02:39,330 We're also delighted that this symposium has been combined with the DF McKenzie Lecture, which is being given by Matt Kirschenbaum at 5:00. 23 00:02:40,590 --> 00:02:50,280 Some brief housekeeping. If there's a fire alarm, there are two exits to this room, one front, one down the stairs at the back. 24 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:57,960 The program's full and tightly scheduled. In terms of questions, 25 00:02:58,350 --> 00:03:03,149 we will try to take some after the second session today, and tomorrow 26 00:03:03,150 --> 00:03:10,940 we will devote as much of the closing session as possible to taking questions and having discussion. 27 00:03:12,090 --> 00:03:21,270 So those in the room, you might want to send your questions for that session tomorrow and those online send questions at any time to the Q&A function, 28 00:03:22,020 --> 00:03:26,520 and we will do our best to gather and read out selection of these tomorrow. 29 00:03:27,540 --> 00:03:34,980 So without further ado for our first panel, we are going be introduced -- and this is an amazing piece of work that Justine has accomplished -- 30 00:03:35,580 --> 00:03:46,170 We're going to be introduced to all the surviving copies of Agrippa identified in institutional collections, here and in the States, 31 00:03:47,190 --> 00:03:53,880 and each speaker will pass on to the next, in an unbroken run. 32 00:03:55,080 --> 00:04:00,710 And it's my pleasure now to introduce the first speaker, Ivy. 33 00:04:05,180 --> 00:04:14,150 Good morning. My name is Ivy Blackman, and I'm the managing librarian at the Whitney Museum of American Art in New York City. 34 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:27,740 So joining you this morning from New York, and the material and I want to make sure I let you know at the top, I'm presenting the research largely of 35 00:04:28,070 --> 00:04:35,450 Justine Provino. This object next to me was a bit of a mystery to me when Justine first contacted us here in our library. 36 00:04:35,810 --> 00:04:40,820 Most of the information Justine was able to gather on this prospectus and how a copy of it entered 37 00:04:40,820 --> 00:04:45,770 the Whitney's library Special Collections comes from Justine's interview with the publisher, 38 00:04:45,770 --> 00:04:48,890 Kevin Begos Junior in March 2021. 39 00:04:50,540 --> 00:05:00,140 And this material is variously described as a promotional prospectus piece or kit advertising to collectors. 40 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,429 The full Agrippa artist's book. The prospectus is a rare collectable and 41 00:05:04,430 --> 00:05:09,770 Justine is aware of only one other surviving copy and it is in a private collection. 42 00:05:11,460 --> 00:05:16,680 That goes to explain that this promotional perspective piece is an idea from Dennis Ashbaugh, 43 00:05:16,950 --> 00:05:20,700 the artist who collaborated to create Agrippa with the writer William Gibson, 44 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:26,610 and with Begos. Ashbaugh and Begos work together on the making of this advertising art work, 45 00:05:26,610 --> 00:05:32,700 which combines in miniature all of the elements for the deluxe edition of the book. 46 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:42,989 The honeycomb cardboard presentation box, and this floppy disk sealed in epoxy. Begos shared that the disk 47 00:05:42,990 --> 00:05:49,590 for the promotional perspective piece is blank; William Gibson's poem for Agrippa is not encoded on it. 48 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,940 He also specifies that the sealant is specifically epoxy. 49 00:05:54,570 --> 00:05:59,040 He described this piece as alluding to the content of the deluxe edition. 50 00:06:00,510 --> 00:06:06,540 He explained that Ashbaugh made about 50 copies of the promotional prospectus pitch, or piece. 51 00:06:06,930 --> 00:06:11,910 They sent it out to potential collectors and institutions to generate interest in the book project. 52 00:06:12,300 --> 00:06:21,750 And this is how the Whitney received this copy. The catalogued-on date is February 27th, 1992, but I do not have, 53 00:06:21,750 --> 00:06:26,310 unfortunately, specific information about when or how it arrived in our library. 54 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:35,590 Begos sent the promotional prospectus piece early in the life of the book project before copies of the book itself were available. 55 00:06:37,540 --> 00:06:42,670 Justine found related press in the Agrippa archives at the Bodleian. 56 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:47,860 She shared a brief piece published in Locus Magazine in April 1992, 57 00:06:48,550 --> 00:06:54,790 an anonymous book review mentioning a promotional Perspectives piece that Locus had received from the publisher. 58 00:06:55,300 --> 00:06:59,260 And it pretty clearly describes the object that we have here at the Whitney. 59 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:07,450 It says 'The artefact we received from the publisher has a computer disk mounted in the centre of the newspaper-covered handmade preview piece', 60 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:19,360 and describes it as 'a rather mindboggling piece of advertising art', which I think pretty clearly sums it up for us. 61 00:07:19,630 --> 00:07:24,160 And I also just want to show you the 62 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:38,060 statement that came with it, including a mounted image that is familiar to those familiar with the book, 63 00:07:38,180 --> 00:07:46,510 although I believe that ours is in a different colour. And some text about what the object is. 64 00:07:51,190 --> 00:07:56,260 So, thank you so much. And I'm going to toss it to our next presenter. 65 00:08:08,370 --> 00:08:12,090 [Justine Provino] Yes. I don't know if everyone can hear me. 66 00:08:12,570 --> 00:08:17,690 And also online, I hope? So, yes. Now we start with the first ... 67 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:24,560 I've got the first copy of the book. So this is the deluxe edition 68 00:08:24,610 --> 00:08:28,740 copy that is at the Bodleian. And this is the presentation box for it. 69 00:08:29,100 --> 00:08:31,350 And the presentation box is actually 70 00:08:31,350 --> 00:08:42,990 a polymer fibreglass reproduction of the Kodak photo album that William Gibson was inspired by, when he wrote his poem about his father. 71 00:08:43,500 --> 00:08:50,670 When you open the box, you can see that it is actually filled with corrugated cardboard, 72 00:08:50,970 --> 00:08:55,640 and that has been layered with various paints and there is also a shroud. 73 00:08:55,920 --> 00:09:01,140 Currently the book is on display next door in the Fox Talbot exhibition. 74 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,490 However, when the book is generally kept here and housed at the Bodleian, 75 00:09:06,150 --> 00:09:11,820 it is always separated from the box because it was a preservation decision, that 76 00:09:12,150 --> 00:09:19,190 the chemicals from the paint could actually off-gas onto the organic components of the book. 77 00:09:19,830 --> 00:09:24,000 So this is the deluxe edition, Copy archive 1. 78 00:09:24,210 --> 00:09:34,320 And as Ivy mentioned, I did interview Kevin in March 2021 he told me that they were supposed to be Archive 1, Archive 2, Archive 3, 79 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:40,950 And then an artist's proof copy and numbered copies, but all of that didn't happened which we will hear more and learn more 80 00:09:41,130 --> 00:09:44,850 About it during the symposium, however, here you see Archive 1. 81 00:09:45,210 --> 00:09:49,560 You just saw that this copy was signed by William Gibson and Kevin Begos. 82 00:09:50,100 --> 00:09:59,130 And here now we go into the text block, and you see the title and facing the title page, there is an etching by Dennis Ashbaugh. 83 00:09:59,490 --> 00:10:06,600 So, what is the text? Well the text is actually an excerpt from the DNA of the fruit fly, 84 00:10:07,380 --> 00:10:13,890 and it is printed in two columns and 42 lines, which will be familiar to you all 85 00:10:13,890 --> 00:10:19,030 as the format of the Gutenberg Bible. 86 00:10:19,610 --> 00:10:26,669 In addition, as you can see in each of the eight designs of this copy, 87 00:10:26,670 --> 00:10:38,309 there are actually etchings by Dennis Ashbaugh, these etchings are copper aquatint etchings and they are fixed in this copy and they come in various hues, 88 00:10:38,310 --> 00:10:42,750 as you can see, green, grey, sepia, yellow, 89 00:10:43,470 --> 00:10:55,070 and they are actually related to the DNA of the fruit fly as well because they are an artistic representation of the auto-radiograph pattern. 90 00:10:55,170 --> 00:11:03,510 So the auto-radiograph is basically the DNA barcode pattern that we each have, a living organism inside us. 91 00:11:03,510 --> 00:11:05,680 So that's what it is representing. 92 00:11:08,130 --> 00:11:19,290 So now the final bit of this copy is this last opening, and you see a carved out cavity in the final last third of the textblock. 93 00:11:19,290 --> 00:11:26,819 The whole textblock, the last 20 pages are all adhered together with adhesive, and that's it. 94 00:11:26,820 --> 00:11:32,520 And it's empty. So something is missing here, that was actually never part of the copy. 95 00:11:32,790 --> 00:11:44,550 It was a diskette, and Kevin Begos told me when he donated the book to the Bodleian he had actually no more copy of the diskette, the book had no diskette to put in it. 96 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:52,260 And so now I'll pass it over to the V&A, to Elizabeth, Catriona and Doug. 97 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,130 And they are showing a very different copy from the same edition, actually. 98 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:05,129 I'll just say good afternoon, everyone. My name is Catriona Gourley, and I'm looking forward to meeting lots of you later in Oxford. 99 00:12:05,130 --> 00:12:09,930 But at the moment I'm here in the National Art Library at the V&A with my colleague Elizabeth James, 100 00:12:10,260 --> 00:12:16,110 and we're going to tell you about our copy of Agrippa and our former colleague Douglas Dodds is going to tell you all about it. 101 00:12:17,870 --> 00:12:19,910 Thanks, Catriona. Thanks, Elizabeth. 102 00:12:21,020 --> 00:12:32,750 As Catriona says, I was a curator at the V&A for many years, and I'm actually partly responsible for acquiring Agrippa for the museum. 103 00:12:33,950 --> 00:12:43,880 It was actually bought from the artists' book dealer, Tony Zwicker, in early 1995 for $2,060. 104 00:12:45,470 --> 00:12:49,730 And we bought it because it was obviously a major item to add to the collection. 105 00:12:49,740 --> 00:12:58,520 But I was also organising an exhibition at the time that was due to take place in the V&A's 20th century gallery. 106 00:12:59,180 --> 00:13:07,370 The exhibition was called 'The Book and Beyond', and Agrippa was absolutely perfect for that because the exhibition 107 00:13:07,370 --> 00:13:12,110 focussed on the relationship between artist books and electronic publishing, 108 00:13:12,500 --> 00:13:21,800 and Agrippa basically embodied both of those things. Some years later I also exhibited it in a another show called Digital Pioneers, 109 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:28,370 which was basically about the early history of digital art. As you can see from the cover here, 110 00:13:29,090 --> 00:13:40,220 The V&A's copy looks superficially at least quite like the Bodleian copy. It came in the same box made out of fibreglass or Kevlar, 111 00:13:40,550 --> 00:13:47,810 a similar sort of shroud. But as you go through the book, you find that it's actually rather different in detail. 112 00:13:48,410 --> 00:13:55,790 We actually store it in an acid free box and it's accessed by appointment only. 113 00:13:56,270 --> 00:14:00,200 So it's been viewed fairly sparingly since it was acquired. 114 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,880 Elizabeth, perhaps you could open the book. Thank you. 115 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:15,110 So, if we just pause for a second on the front, the inside front cover, and then if you can zoom in there, if people can actually see it. 116 00:14:15,110 --> 00:14:21,830 But the book is signed at the top by William Gibson only. 117 00:14:23,300 --> 00:14:27,320 Not by Ashbaugh, certainly not by the publisher, Begos. 118 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,680 But down at the bottom corner, 119 00:14:30,950 --> 00:14:39,470 you'll also see that it's also marked as an artist's proof, number four of ten copies. 120 00:14:39,950 --> 00:14:47,120 Now, this seems to approximate to the deluxe edition, but I don't know of any other artist proofs in other public collections. 121 00:14:47,180 --> 00:14:53,780 I haven't seen another one. Perhaps we could move on to look at the same opening. 122 00:14:54,110 --> 00:14:59,300 That one again is very similar, I think, to the Bodleian copy we've just seen. 123 00:14:59,810 --> 00:15:04,760 So perhaps you should move on again, a few pages, to the yellow and black one. 124 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:11,470 Elizabeth. That's it. 125 00:15:12,430 --> 00:15:22,870 I think. Unlike the Bodleian copy, this one is actually over printed with toner ink, the kind of thing you get in a photocopier. 126 00:15:23,380 --> 00:15:28,120 And it was designed to degrade as the book was used in practice, 127 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,080 it's degraded probably rather less than was expected. 128 00:15:32,410 --> 00:15:39,060 I can't quite see on my screen, but maybe if you zoom in to the text, can you see any of the offsetting on that page? 129 00:15:41,020 --> 00:15:48,450 A little. A little. So perhaps we should move on again through the book a bit further. 130 00:15:49,580 --> 00:15:52,790 There's a page much further. Yeah. 131 00:15:52,890 --> 00:15:58,490 So, some of the pages actually have images printed on the back rather than the front page, as in the other copies. 132 00:15:58,940 --> 00:16:00,500 In this case, if you zoom in on that. 133 00:16:01,940 --> 00:16:12,140 You see, it is actually toner ink that's meant to brush off the page, but it hasn't brushed off as much as it perhaps might have done. 134 00:16:13,010 --> 00:16:19,490 So perhaps you could move on again, Elizabeth, until you get to the page with the TV set on the corner. 135 00:16:20,100 --> 00:16:25,239 Keep going. It's a text block page. 136 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:33,250 Keep going. So you can see all these pages have over-printing on them. 137 00:16:33,250 --> 00:16:36,910 And to some extent it's transferred across to the opposite page. 138 00:16:38,410 --> 00:16:44,240 You keep going, ah gone ahead now. 139 00:16:47,010 --> 00:16:54,660 Somewhere in there is a page with just text, but with a similar image over-printed on the page. 140 00:16:56,460 --> 00:17:01,510 Rather than on the engraving. Yeah, don't worry. 141 00:17:01,900 --> 00:17:08,980 I think people are getting the idea of it. Let's skip ahead to the exciting bit, the cutout in the 142 00:17:10,010 --> 00:17:20,090 page. Keep going. 143 00:17:22,970 --> 00:17:28,010 There we go. So this is the page that people are very familiar with - in the V&A copy, at least. 144 00:17:28,010 --> 00:17:31,040 And this is the one that we displayed a couple of times, 145 00:17:31,370 --> 00:17:36,979 as an opening in the couple of exhibitions I mentioned earlier, and that's possibly how it was meant to be viewed. 146 00:17:36,980 --> 00:17:42,920 So suddenly you come to the actual floppy disk, which incidentally hasn't actually been played. 147 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,860 So we took a decision not to do that when we acquired the book. 148 00:17:46,310 --> 00:17:53,900 So in theory at least, the text of William Gibson's poem is still on there. The subsequent pages of the book 149 00:17:53,900 --> 00:18:00,170 though, in many copies are a solid block of text where the pages have been glued together. 150 00:18:01,130 --> 00:18:09,290 In practice, though, in the V&A's copy, either the glue has failed a little or else it never really held very well. 151 00:18:09,970 --> 00:18:11,870 If you turn the page again, Elizabeth. 152 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:23,500 You come to this page, which I'm not at all sure whether it was meant to be seen or whether it was meant to be part of the glued-together pages. 153 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:29,950 But essentially, if you lift the disk out of there Elizabeth, you get a better idea of the depth of it. 154 00:18:31,610 --> 00:18:35,479 This is the kind of receptacle really where the disk was meant to go. 155 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:42,800 But rather surprisingly, it's got what looks like an abstract painting by Ashbaugh around it. 156 00:18:43,310 --> 00:18:50,810 As I say, whether that was meant to be there or whether it was just the glue has failed, we can't really be sure now. 157 00:18:51,170 --> 00:18:56,570 In any event, the rest of the book, the pages are fairly securely glued together still. 158 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:04,820 But there is some weakening, I think, of the glue which allows you just to get a peek in without opening the page completely. 159 00:19:05,780 --> 00:19:12,079 So that's essentially our copy of it. It's actually changed quite a bit over the years. 160 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,800 I've looked at it several times and I've noticed quite a lot of shifts in it. 161 00:19:16,340 --> 00:19:18,980 One is the obvious transfer of the images across. 162 00:19:19,370 --> 00:19:28,280 Another is the actual book itself, the fabric of the book itself. If you close it, Elizabeth, it's actually now bowing somewhat at the edges. 163 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:37,130 It was certainly flat when we bought it, but possibly the glue or something has started to permeate into the covers. 164 00:19:37,490 --> 00:19:41,450 So it's changed substantially, but perhaps not in the way that it was originally intended. 165 00:19:43,330 --> 00:19:47,200 I think that's probably all we need to say. So I should now hand over to Gabriella. 166 00:19:47,620 --> 00:19:56,190 Thanks very much. And thanks to Elizabeth and Catriona. 167 00:19:57,610 --> 00:20:01,900 Thank you and good morning from Yale University in Connecticut. 168 00:20:02,350 --> 00:20:11,290 My name is Gabriella. I'm actually a museum curatorial assistant in the Department of Photography, 169 00:20:11,290 --> 00:20:16,300 but I'm also the manager of the Allan Chasanoff Collection here at the university. 170 00:20:16,690 --> 00:20:23,170 And our deluxe copy of the book was a part of the Allan Chasanoff Book art collection. 171 00:20:24,010 --> 00:20:30,190 Allan Chasanoff was a private collector, and he collected books mainly from the nineties, 172 00:20:30,190 --> 00:20:34,330 mainly sculptural, books made out of books and sculptures made out of books. 173 00:20:34,870 --> 00:20:40,630 And he gave us this book as a part of his collection in 2012. 174 00:20:41,590 --> 00:20:47,139 In 2014, we actually had an exhibition when we exhibited this book and we exhibited it like this. 175 00:20:47,140 --> 00:20:50,980 So I just wanted to show you how we showed it in the exhibition and this gave 176 00:20:50,980 --> 00:20:56,230 it gave a little bit more of a perhaps a sculptural presence in the exhibition. 177 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,310 It looks a bit like a architecture, archaeological specimen. 178 00:21:01,380 --> 00:21:05,490 Or something like that. So I'm just going to take it out of its case. 179 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,430 Allan bought this book from Kevin in 1995. 180 00:21:19,270 --> 00:21:30,880 He was a friend of Kevin. And we also have here, when you open the book, an invite to the launch of the Agrippa book in 1992. 181 00:21:32,020 --> 00:21:42,630 Our edition is 10 of 95 and it is signed by Gibson and 182 00:21:43,810 --> 00:21:49,670 also Ashbaugh. We have this as a part of our collection. 183 00:21:49,670 --> 00:21:55,430 So it's an accession object, we keep it instorage and it's viewable by appointment only. 184 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,390 And the visitors can't handle this, so we will handle it for them. 185 00:21:59,780 --> 00:22:08,180 We haven't had a lot of people looking at it, so it's rarely accessed and we haven't seen a lot of changes in the book. 186 00:22:11,230 --> 00:22:20,710 But as you can see, we don't have any fixed art in here, so they're all transferring, the loose pigments to the opposite pages. 187 00:22:36,790 --> 00:22:39,910 And I'm trying to find this spread with a TV. 188 00:22:40,890 --> 00:22:45,570 Here it is, that you tried to show. The last speaker tried to show. 189 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:05,450 And this is the loose DNA Dipstick page, which is one of the last pages in the book. 190 00:23:06,810 --> 00:23:16,230 And here are diskettes. And actually Allan Chasanoff, the donor of the book, he actually had an agreement with Kevin 191 00:23:16,530 --> 00:23:22,530 and I think also Dennis, to send the diskettes to the University of California. 192 00:23:22,530 --> 00:23:27,660 He did this in 2008 to have it read on a computer from 1992. 193 00:23:28,230 --> 00:23:32,280 And we actually have two diskettes in the book. 194 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,840 And this one was read and is therefore empty, presumably. 195 00:23:37,020 --> 00:23:38,190 This one we haven't read. 196 00:23:38,190 --> 00:23:46,469 And Allan said, I just did some research on this, and he just says in his files that he presumes it's empty, but we haven't read it. 197 00:23:46,470 --> 00:23:54,460 And I don't think Allan did either. And when the diskette was read 198 00:23:54,780 --> 00:24:01,440 it was also recorded to emulate the reading experience on the screen, which you now can see on YouTube. 199 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:06,680 And we also have chosen to have a hard copy of the poem in our curatorial file. 200 00:24:08,870 --> 00:24:13,550 So that's our copy, and I will hand you over to the next speaker. 201 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,980 [Leah] I'm having trouble sharing my screen. It's saying host disabled participant screen sharing. 202 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:43,040 All right. 203 00:24:43,050 --> 00:24:46,500 That seems to have worked. Right. Okay. 204 00:24:46,780 --> 00:24:53,830 And thank you very much for having me on. Leah Johanson, I'm from the New York Public Library's Manuscripts Archives and Rare Books Division. 205 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,070 And we have a deluxe edition. 206 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:03,750 And I'll adjust the lighting here, it's a little glaring, but we also have one of these labels at the top right corner. 207 00:25:04,020 --> 00:25:08,280 And compared to the other ones we've seen already today, ours is a lot less legible. 208 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:14,400 You can see that there are definitely letters and symbols under there, but it's not nearly as clear as some of the other ones we've seen. 209 00:25:14,820 --> 00:25:26,400 and, when we take that off and you can see our copy is also in netting, but it's grey as compared to the Bodleian's red. 210 00:25:27,870 --> 00:25:33,210 And it's also got the honeycomb with the glitter and paint on it. 211 00:25:40,360 --> 00:25:45,400 Here's the copy itself. You can see the spine is really burnt and kind of cut up. 212 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,910 And when you open it -- give it a minute to focus. 213 00:25:52,920 --> 00:26:01,430 Let's see. You can see that both Gibson and Ashbaugh have signed in the top right corner, and ours at the bottom is labelled number 12 of 95. 214 00:26:02,150 --> 00:26:11,229 And this here. I'm not sure if you can see our call number, but it says 05, which means that we catalogued it, 215 00:26:11,230 --> 00:26:15,970 in '05, it was definitely acquired by the library in the nineties. 216 00:26:16,270 --> 00:26:19,210 And unfortunately, I don't have any more information than that. 217 00:26:19,540 --> 00:26:27,160 Our current rare book curator joined here in 2001 and stated that it was already part of the collection when he arrived, 218 00:26:27,460 --> 00:26:32,740 but I don't have any information as to who bought it and when and for how much. 219 00:26:33,970 --> 00:26:41,680 There's been some urban legends from the 1990s staff members that images have appeared disappeared over the years, 220 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:55,320 but I haven't seen any of that myself. And if we go through here, you can see that we have the Anthonys Timing Plummet advertisement. 221 00:26:55,660 --> 00:27:01,980 This one was faint to begin with, and it's transference hasn't been as pronounced. 222 00:27:01,990 --> 00:27:13,030 You can see a bit of it here, the T, but you can see with a lot of ours, the transference from the etching side to the textblock is pretty severe. 223 00:27:13,450 --> 00:27:18,690 I think that's likely because we do allow readers to come in and use it. 224 00:27:18,700 --> 00:27:25,809 You do have to have an appointment, but we serve it to researchers in the reading room, as Justine can attest. 225 00:27:25,810 --> 00:27:29,320 And as always, we require clean, dry hands. 226 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:35,379 We serve it on foam wedges, but we do allow readers to turn the pages themselves, 227 00:27:35,380 --> 00:27:39,460 which has probably resulted in more transference than other copies have seen. 228 00:27:40,180 --> 00:27:44,680 But because we do allow research researchers to come in and interact with the book, 229 00:27:44,980 --> 00:27:55,530 a lot of the research that has been done typically uses our copy as opposed to other institutional copies. 230 00:27:56,290 --> 00:28:01,960 And you can see this page used to be glued down and it has become completely unglued. 231 00:28:02,260 --> 00:28:10,930 The rest of the textblock, has remained glued together. 232 00:28:11,290 --> 00:28:15,040 And you can see the recess where the floppy disk is. 233 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:20,410 Our floppy disk is in this plastic container that's cut open at the top. 234 00:28:20,740 --> 00:28:23,800 We did not do that. It arrived at NYPL like that. 235 00:28:24,460 --> 00:28:39,190 And NYPL has never played this diskette, so ostensibly it should still have the poem on it. That might be everything to cover on our copy. 236 00:28:39,190 --> 00:28:52,200 So I will hand it off to Gillian at the Center for the Book. [Gillian] Hi everybody 237 00:28:53,490 --> 00:29:00,930 Thank you so much for having me. My name is Gillian and I am librarian at Centre for the Arts and I am also calling in from New York. 238 00:29:02,490 --> 00:29:07,950 I am presenting three copies of a group of Agrippa today. These three copies, 239 00:29:08,220 --> 00:29:15,630 we do not have information on exactly how they entered our collections, but 240 00:29:18,210 --> 00:29:26,310 We have a pretty strong idea that they remained in our collections after we exhibited, 241 00:29:26,490 --> 00:29:30,120 we had an exhibition on Agrippa in 1993 after it was published. 242 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:43,050 This exhibition came about because Center for Book Arts founder Richard Minsky actually told me yesterday that he got in touch with Kevin Begos Jr, 243 00:29:43,500 --> 00:29:45,690 who met Richard while taking classes at Center for Book Arts. 244 00:29:46,020 --> 00:29:51,840 And that's how the exhibition came about, and that's probably how these three copies entered our collections. 245 00:29:53,160 --> 00:30:02,850 All three copies are signed just by William Gibson and are numbered, and none of them have the translucent case, 246 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:12,270 honeycomb or netting. So they are just the book itself and we keep them in acid-free boxes. 247 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:20,520 So the first of the three copies that I'll show you is number 28 of 95. 248 00:30:20,940 --> 00:30:25,560 This is the only copy that has the title on the cover. 249 00:30:27,270 --> 00:30:37,260 As you can see, the cover is a lot less distressed than other copies that we've seen today with 250 00:30:37,530 --> 00:30:43,080 most of any discolouration from being burnt is really just around the title. 251 00:30:46,930 --> 00:30:56,920 It is signed by the artist and numbered and the inside looks much like the copies that you've seen today. 252 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,850 There are not so many, if any at all, 253 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:06,880 images over printed onto the etchings or transferred onto the pages. 254 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:32,310 And at the very end, there is a hollow where a diskette might go, but our copy has never had a floppy disk. 255 00:31:33,150 --> 00:31:44,430 Several of the pages, as in previous copies that we've seen today that are in this block of hollowed out pages, several are lifting up. 256 00:31:45,540 --> 00:31:53,700 And like the V&A copy, I don't know if that is because they were never glued down or if it's because the glue aged and dried out. 257 00:31:56,300 --> 00:32:06,920 As with the NYPL copy, researchers can handle and turn the pages of these books by appointment. 258 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:15,650 This is our second copy. It is number 33 of 95, also signed by William Gibson. 259 00:32:15,670 --> 00:32:24,490 There is no title on the cover. This is sort of the plainest of our three copies at the back. 260 00:32:25,060 --> 00:32:30,070 There is no hollow, just a bunch of blank pages. 261 00:32:33,750 --> 00:32:38,900 There's one piece of distressing on the cover. And 262 00:32:41,670 --> 00:32:47,940 no burning or any distressing on the spine. 263 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:54,960 The third copy and final copy in our collections is number 35 of 95. 264 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,920 It's a little, tiny, tiny, bit more distressed on the cover. 265 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:07,050 But again, there's no title and it's basically plain white, nothing on the back. 266 00:33:07,290 --> 00:33:10,680 And it looks much like our second copy. 267 00:33:12,810 --> 00:33:18,600 With the additional unusual feature of a single 268 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:33,320 folded sheet printed with the same content as the printed pages, on a different longer fibre paper with an edge that extends outside of 269 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:44,960 the text block that was not bound into the text block that is just in the pages. And at the end of this copy, 270 00:33:47,450 --> 00:33:51,950 like our second copy, no 271 00:33:51,950 --> 00:33:58,500 hollow, just blank pages. 272 00:33:59,550 --> 00:34:02,640 Those are the Center for Book Arts copies. 273 00:34:03,450 --> 00:34:13,740 Thank you. And I will pass it back to Justine. 274 00:34:14,530 --> 00:34:27,149 So that was all of the surviving existing copies in the deluxe edition, that are currently in the public collections, 275 00:34:27,150 --> 00:34:30,750 as you saw, they are all numbered out of 95. 276 00:34:31,830 --> 00:34:34,940 How many copies were made? That remains a secret. 277 00:34:34,950 --> 00:34:39,870 And when I interviewed Kevin, he told me that this is a secret that he wished to keep to himself. 278 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,100 So we don't know. 279 00:34:43,110 --> 00:34:46,980 But I have identified ten of these deluxe edition copies. 280 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:54,720 Seven of them we saw today, three are in private collections, one of them will be shown in the next panel. 281 00:34:55,410 --> 00:35:05,340 So now we move to the small edition. And again, there were supposed to be 350 of the small edition copies. 282 00:35:06,060 --> 00:35:15,070 That didn't happen. And I have only identified four of them, and the four of them will be shown between between this panel 283 00:35:15,450 --> 00:35:21,210 and then after with the other panel with the Agrippa scholars 284 00:35:21,780 --> 00:35:30,420 So without further a do. So actually, now, we actually now we are showing with the visualiser, this is the box from the small edition copy. 285 00:35:30,630 --> 00:35:35,520 And from the outside, it looks more what we expect to see. 286 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,800 Usually in library. Like an archival box, a clamshell box, cloth covered. 287 00:35:40,140 --> 00:35:42,480 But again, when we open it, 288 00:35:42,490 --> 00:35:55,290 then it's slightly different and it is still with this corrugated honeycomb pattern and that is again layered with paint. 289 00:35:55,740 --> 00:36:04,410 And on the other side you see that the box is lined with actually newspapers and Kevin, 290 00:36:04,410 --> 00:36:14,890 When I interviewed him, told me that he was the one who actually lined this box with this newspaper, 291 00:36:14,910 --> 00:36:22,049 they all come from the same batch and they are from the twenties and the thirties and similarly to 292 00:36:22,050 --> 00:36:28,440 the preservation decision that was made here at the Bodleian with the deluxe edition copy box and 293 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:38,219 book are housed separately for kind of obvious reasons that there are chemicals component that come 294 00:36:38,220 --> 00:36:45,660 with the paint but also acidic components that are part of the woodpulp that is used to make newspapers. 295 00:36:45,870 --> 00:36:51,300 So what is known as lignin and so this lignin inside 296 00:36:51,510 --> 00:36:56,540I it results, as you might be aware, when you leaf through newspapers and then you, you know, 297 00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:01,260 you don't touch it for a long time in a yellow discolouration of the newspaper. 298 00:37:01,350 --> 00:37:05,900 So that's why box and book are housed separately here at the Bodleian. 299 00:37:06,250 --> 00:37:09,090 And so now we turn to the book. 300 00:37:09,390 --> 00:37:22,350 And again, when I interviewed Kevin, he told me that the small edition initially was supposed to be a smaller size replica of the deluxe edition. 301 00:37:22,770 --> 00:37:30,920 So when you look at the small edition from the outside, it looks quite similar, maybe 302 00:37:31,020 --> 00:37:36,300 a little bit less worn out and not as much frayed and burned at the edges, but still with the embossed title. 303 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:43,140 So that looks similar, but at least for this copy then that is different. 304 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:54,810 So if we open it first, yes, you will see that this one is signed by William Gibson and Kevin Begos Jr and then it is numbered. 305 00:37:55,170 --> 00:37:58,770 So number 77 of 350. 306 00:37:59,700 --> 00:38:03,720 And so at the time these copies you could buy them for $450. 307 00:38:04,740 --> 00:38:11,610 But then now if we move to the title page you will see that it is slightly different. 308 00:38:11,670 --> 00:38:16,800 And you can remember that, you know, all the title pages in the deluxe edition copies, 309 00:38:17,010 --> 00:38:22,290 they are faced by an etching by Ashbaugh and you here you have a small size reproduction. 310 00:38:22,310 --> 00:38:27,090 so a photocopy, of an etching by Ashbaugh, 311 00:38:27,300 --> 00:38:32,280 with an overprint piece, a diagram of how to mount a pistol on it. 312 00:38:32,550 --> 00:38:36,950 And this is all fixed, and nothing is smudging or offsetting. 313 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:41,010 So it's all fixed, and term then of the text printed. 314 00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:44,700 Yes, it is again, the DNA of the fruitfly, with the title page. 315 00:38:44,910 --> 00:38:50,219 But again, different. It is only one column and 20 lines. 316 00:38:50,220 --> 00:38:59,010 So, no Guttenberg Bible reference here, then now if we leaf through the text block, you'll see that it is only 317 00:38:59,210 --> 00:39:03,610 text and there are no more etching by Ashbaugh. 318 00:39:04,790 --> 00:39:14,640 Or reproduction of his etchings and the overprint with it, and for the copy at the Bodleian, that is basically it. 319 00:39:15,330 --> 00:39:22,140 Because as we keep leafing through it, you'll see that we reach completely the other side of the text block. 320 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:30,230 There is no end leaf, the paste down is again a printed text, and then there is no carved out cavity and there is certainly no diskette. 321 00:39:30,990 --> 00:39:34,860 So that's for the small edition copy at the Bodleian. 322 00:39:35,220 --> 00:39:45,209 But you would see with our final panellist, Susan Stueur at Kalamazoo, that it is a very different copy that they have, 323 00:39:45,210 --> 00:39:49,260 even though it is from the same edition. So over to you Susan. 324 00:40:05,130 --> 00:40:13,320 Good morning. I am the librarian at Special Collections in Rare Books in Western Michigan University in Kalamazoo, Michigan. 325 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,010 And we have a copy of the small edition. 326 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:32,040 As you can see, our box does not include the newsprint at all, but we have the normal cloth here and the honeycomb in the lining in the box. 327 00:40:39,370 --> 00:40:45,790 I am not sure when our copy was purchased. It was here when I came in 2006. 328 00:40:46,450 --> 00:40:57,739 It was catalogued in 2004 and presumably purchased by the previous curator, who did have an interest in artists books and purchased a lot, 329 00:40:57,740 --> 00:41:10,459 began our collection in that area. Our copy has on the title quite a bit of sort of a second shadow of the print on the title, 330 00:41:10,460 --> 00:41:13,610 which I didn't I can't couldn't see in any of the other copies. 331 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:21,230 And it's signed by William Gibson 152 of 350 copies. 332 00:41:23,140 --> 00:41:30,160 The I believe Kevin Begos told Justine that this was the this edition. 333 00:41:30,580 --> 00:41:34,930 This copy represents what the small edition was supposed to look like. 334 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,870 As we go through, we can see that. 335 00:41:41,950 --> 00:41:46,890 There's a few fly leaves, the paper, there's a lot of transfer. 336 00:41:47,350 --> 00:41:53,350 And I believe the text is different on this page than on the other small edition copy. 337 00:41:54,130 --> 00:41:58,900 And there's quite a bit of transfer, but the rest of the book is much cleaner. 338 00:41:59,380 --> 00:42:10,030 And I would note that the images in this one are glued in and on a separate kind of paper, then the wrap, then the text, the rest of the text. 339 00:42:13,350 --> 00:42:22,040 As we leaf through. The pages at the front are fairly clean and when you get to the back, 340 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:29,090 there's a great deal more singeing and there's a lot of singeing on the image pages. 341 00:42:29,450 --> 00:42:33,510 You can see that our binding has begun to separate. 342 00:42:33,530 --> 00:42:36,530 You can clearly see the stitching between the gatherings. 343 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:45,390 And. Ours is available to anyone who comes to our library. 344 00:42:45,420 --> 00:42:51,750 We're a public institution that has a mission to share everything we own with the people of Michigan. 345 00:42:52,050 --> 00:42:59,010 Here you can see more clearly where the separation is occurring. And so anyone who comes in and wants to see it can see it. 346 00:42:59,310 --> 00:43:09,660 We still have not had a lot of people look at it. Aside from a few visitors and remote because of our location, people usually ask us for photographs. 347 00:43:09,660 --> 00:43:12,810 So it's been photographed for. 348 00:43:14,150 --> 00:43:31,910 Various researchers. We do have a number of images in our copy and perhaps. 349 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,600 We do have our diskette, our cataloguing notes 350 00:43:36,900 --> 00:43:41,520 That is unencrypted. So I assume that it has been opened up. 351 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:48,210 The diskette itself is painted and I don't know how that would affect the actual access to it. 352 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:55,000 And we have a little bit of loosening of pages, but not to the extent that some of the other copies do. 353 00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,340 And that's our addition. Thank you.