1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,639 [Auto-generated transcript. Edits may have been applied for clarity.] Well, ladies and gentlemen, my name is Richard Ovenden. 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:10,969 I am both Bodley's Librarian and head of gardens, libraries and museums here in the University of Oxford. 3 00:00:10,970 --> 00:00:18,500 And it's my enormous pleasure to welcome you to this event, the second of our 4 00:00:18,500 --> 00:00:26,990 celebratory conferences that we've had around the ARCHiOx project and this project, 5 00:00:28,310 --> 00:00:33,950 the second phase of which comes to an end really today 6 00:00:33,950 --> 00:00:42,680 with this conference has been a collaboration with our close friends and colleagues, Factum Foundation in Madrid. 7 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:49,370 And you will hear from and will see many of them, during the course of this event this afternoon. 8 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:54,860 And, all I can say is that that has been an absolutely 9 00:00:54,860 --> 00:01:04,280 fantastic experience to work with such a talented and innovative group of colleagues, 10 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:16,399 working in the the same space, but with a very different set of skills that they bring to complement those which we have here in the library 11 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,720 and, I think, in the cultural heritage sector as a whole. 12 00:01:21,230 --> 00:01:27,290 And of course, none of this would be possible without the immense generosity of the Helen Hamlyn Trust. 13 00:01:27,290 --> 00:01:39,290 And I'd just like to say for the record, a huge vote of thanks and to express my very sincere gratitude to them for their confidence 14 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:47,210 in us, in the Bodleian and in the Factum Foundation to take this project forward and to develop, 15 00:01:47,570 --> 00:01:53,059 a set of technologies, approaches and use cases which enable 16 00:01:53,060 --> 00:02:02,780 us to really transform the way in which we're able to interrogate the objects in our collections for the sake of creating new knowledge. 17 00:02:05,300 --> 00:02:08,530 And our thing today is seeing the unseen. 18 00:02:08,540 --> 00:02:12,260 And that's exactly what we've been doing over the past couple of years. 19 00:02:13,060 --> 00:02:18,260 And that's why we're excited to share the findings of the work that we've been doing, 20 00:02:18,260 --> 00:02:29,060 both the technologies and the techniques which we've developed. Across our GLAM institutions here in Oxford, that's gardens, libraries and museums, 21 00:02:29,270 --> 00:02:32,030 we have 32 million collection items, 22 00:02:32,390 --> 00:02:45,170 and ARCHiOx is helping us give new ways of both extracting the data from those collections and understanding how those objects were created, 23 00:02:45,590 --> 00:02:51,290 what they were made from, how, in some cases, when and where they were created. 24 00:02:51,650 --> 00:02:55,910 But also, and I think particularly for me this has been the most exciting thing, 25 00:02:56,150 --> 00:03:01,730 the human interactions with those collections after they were first created, after they were first formed. 26 00:03:02,150 --> 00:03:12,260 How can we learn how humans have responded to, intervened in, and left their marks on 27 00:03:12,950 --> 00:03:18,560 books, documents, artefacts, objects, all of those kinds of things. 28 00:03:18,990 --> 00:03:28,940 ARCHiOx helps us understand that in ways which are truly new, I think, and I hope you'll, if you haven't seen it before, 29 00:03:28,940 --> 00:03:33,710 you'll come away from this event with a new perspective on those issues. 30 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:42,420 The extraordinary findings from the first phase of the project, which were announced in this very room about two years ago. 31 00:03:42,810 --> 00:03:49,860 included the discovery of the reading practices of an early medieval religious woman, Eadberg. 32 00:03:50,340 --> 00:03:56,550 And these have been matched in phase two with the discovery of William Blake's first foray into engraving. 33 00:03:57,610 --> 00:04:04,570 Given the close collaboration between the Bodleian and Oxford's four outstanding university museums, 34 00:04:04,690 --> 00:04:11,770 we were keen to experiment in this second phase to test the utility for ARCHiOx with museum collections. 35 00:04:12,580 --> 00:04:16,210 We were not disappointed, ladies and gentlemen, and you will see more about this 36 00:04:16,420 --> 00:04:24,760 this afternoon. We reveal previously unseen marks of creation from Raphael, Michelangelo and Giulio Romano in the Ashmolean. 37 00:04:25,180 --> 00:04:31,870 We explored the details on naturally made objects in the Natural History Museum, from meteorites to fossilised frogs, 38 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:41,070 and have experimented with the built heritage in making high fidelity records of the 15th century fan vaulting on the ceiling of the Divinity School, 39 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:47,110 the heart of the Bodleian. My own personal show and tell. 40 00:04:47,140 --> 00:04:57,410 Recording aspects of ARCHiOx continue to be extraordinary, as we hope to demonstrate to you this afternoon. And together, 41 00:04:57,410 --> 00:05:06,470 the Bodleian and Factum have been working to make using the technology as easy as possible within the environments of a library, archive or museum. 42 00:05:07,070 --> 00:05:11,180 The team, led by specialists in our digital library operation here in the Bodleian, 43 00:05:11,660 --> 00:05:16,310 in the Bodleian, have also been busy integrating ARCHiOx with the IIIF standard. 44 00:05:16,580 --> 00:05:25,510 Indeed, building out that standard to accommodate it so that the data that ARCHiOx creates can be easily and interoperable, 45 00:05:25,580 --> 00:05:31,700 shared from digital platforms which are IIIF compliant, 46 00:05:31,700 --> 00:05:38,630 and that is now encompassing a huge array of the library and museum sector across the globe. 47 00:05:40,390 --> 00:05:49,600 Of course. Our colleagues in the imaging studio, several floors below where we're sat have also had their own practices, 48 00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:59,469 and indeed their spaces, transformed by ARCHiOx and the team themselves led, absolutely superbly by John Barrett, have 49 00:05:59,470 --> 00:06:04,510 really grabbed hold of this opportunity with both hands and have 50 00:06:04,510 --> 00:06:09,040 had the pleasure not only of refining the techniques and working with scholars to do that 51 00:06:09,310 --> 00:06:18,310 to explore those use cases, but also increasingly to share it with other professionals in the library and museum sector. 52 00:06:18,310 --> 00:06:23,770 And it's wonderful to have a number of our colleagues, here this afternoon. 53 00:06:26,330 --> 00:06:29,880 Finally, allow me to read the horoscope of the project. 54 00:06:29,900 --> 00:06:36,770 If you would. We have another phase of work planned to further extend and enhance the technology, 55 00:06:37,070 --> 00:06:41,390 to refine the workflows at the institutional end of things, 56 00:06:41,630 --> 00:06:47,180 and especially to build a community of practice as more institutions acquire 57 00:06:47,180 --> 00:06:52,820 the technology and start to use it at an industrial scale to document their collections. 58 00:06:53,510 --> 00:07:00,350 The Bodleian, working with our colleagues at Factum, want to create the space in which the instructions, 59 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:06,890 the approaches that we develop can be shared with 60 00:07:07,130 --> 00:07:13,130 other institutions as they join the ARCHiOx community as they acquire 61 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:18,830 the hardware, the software, and indeed the desire to use the technology. 62 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:26,990 So that we can support each other in taking this extraordinary opportunity forward. 63 00:07:28,630 --> 00:07:29,200 It's now. 64 00:07:29,350 --> 00:07:37,870 Unfortunately, the university, in its great wisdom, has decided this afternoon will be its meeting of the University's governing Council. 65 00:07:38,110 --> 00:07:43,930 And I must run probably literally from these words to that meeting. 66 00:07:44,290 --> 00:07:51,910 But I will join you later in the afternoon. But as I do so, it's now my great pleasure to hand over to my partner in crime here, 67 00:07:52,090 --> 00:07:58,280 Adam Lowe, the inspirational founder and leader of Factum Arte and Factum Foundation in Madrid. 68 00:07:58,300 --> 00:08:13,830 Ladies and gentlemen, please join me in welcoming Adam. Thank you very much. 69 00:08:14,220 --> 00:08:20,220 So many people turning out for the second of the ARCHiOx summaries 70 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,729 about what we're doing. John, can I do that from here? 71 00:08:23,730 --> 00:08:39,360 72 00:08:39,370 --> 00:08:50,420 Got it. For the second of the show and tells and summaries of what's gone on in the last year and a half 73 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:56,780 here at the Bodleian and also in Madrid in Factum's studios. 74 00:08:57,140 --> 00:09:01,850 So I always love the sort of serendipity of what happens on these kind of occasions. 75 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:10,159 And as I was walking in, Michael Rich was talking to someone I haven't seen for 2 or 3 years who's 76 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:18,110 studying graffiti in the Temple of Karnak, who's just moved to study graffiti in Abydos. 77 00:09:18,380 --> 00:09:24,950 And is incredibly exciting about finding different languages on the surface of the walls in Abydos. 78 00:09:24,950 --> 00:09:34,190 And really, I wanted to begin with a real thank you to Helen Hamdan's Trust for believing in us for so long. 79 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,610 And the image here is actually from this morning. 80 00:09:38,390 --> 00:09:48,890 That's an exaggeration. It was from yesterday, but it's in the Greek tomb in the Ipogeo Cristallini where we're using a vertical, 81 00:09:48,890 --> 00:09:54,710 the first proper use of the vertical Selene to record graffiti. 82 00:09:55,280 --> 00:10:00,440 These are Greek tombs in Naples from the fourth century BC. 83 00:10:00,890 --> 00:10:06,290 And this wall has never been recorded and it's absolutely covered in graffiti. 84 00:10:06,470 --> 00:10:14,390 On the left you can see Ferdy Saumarez Smith, who leads Factum Foundation in London, in the polychrome chamber. 85 00:10:14,390 --> 00:10:17,810 So this is the best Greek polychrome from the fourth century. 86 00:10:18,110 --> 00:10:22,250 And the Medusa's head is what we're recording today. 87 00:10:22,610 --> 00:10:31,930 So, I mean, what started as a dream to say we could build a scanner that has these properties. 88 00:10:31,940 --> 00:10:37,610 So I'm not going to try and go through them. But this is one you can do on your phones, that you can read it later. 89 00:10:38,090 --> 00:10:46,340 But basically the Selene scanner does a lot of things that enable us to focus on the materiality of objects. 90 00:10:46,730 --> 00:10:58,490 And it's really this system that John has been trialling, developing, pioneering, using and sharing downstairs and communicating to 91 00:10:58,910 --> 00:11:04,680 as Richard mentioned, a growing community of practice. 92 00:11:04,700 --> 00:11:08,030 So really the idea is to spread this knowledge. 93 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:13,340 But I thought I'd just begin with a very quick thing and I'll do this one very fast. 94 00:11:13,340 --> 00:11:18,830 But Factum started in 2001 and we started developing the technologies. 95 00:11:19,310 --> 00:11:22,580 And these are a number of things. This one stops in 2021. 96 00:11:22,580 --> 00:11:30,650 Of course, it goes on beyond there. But developing the hardware and the software has been central to what we're focussed on in Madrid. 97 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:41,000 And then applying that technology and making sure that it's used and focused to different targets and different end uses. 98 00:11:41,210 --> 00:11:46,770 And it's really that, that I'm most proud of about what's happened here at ARCHiOx. 99 00:11:48,970 --> 00:11:51,660 In the British Museum at the moment, 100 00:11:51,670 --> 00:12:02,020 they have become part of the community of practice and have a Selene which is currently recording cuneiform tablets. 101 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:09,400 So, when they're flat like this, it's relatively easy for the Selene to record it. 102 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:13,860 But most cuneiform tablets have curvature and have information on the edges 103 00:12:13,870 --> 00:12:19,989 so now we're working with them to try and see how we can extend, what it is. 104 00:12:19,990 --> 00:12:25,450 But if you can see this, the greatest thing we've done is to 105 00:12:25,660 --> 00:12:34,000 find a way through digital communication to make these objects physically available as if you're holding them, 106 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:41,950 as if you're changing the light, as if you're actually with the object and can handle it and look at it. 107 00:12:41,950 --> 00:12:45,700 So digitality is no longer just taking a photograph. 108 00:12:46,330 --> 00:12:51,220 It's actually making something physical so you can physically engage with it. 109 00:12:51,990 --> 00:12:59,080 And I think the work on cuneiform is presenting lots of challenges that we are trying to solve. 110 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:06,690 Now, John Barrett, as Richard mentioned, has been recording in the, and John 111 00:13:06,700 --> 00:13:13,960 this is ready to introduce you, not to steal your thunder. But that actually, this is a type of 112 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,790 fossil of a frog. So I'm going to do my show and tell. 113 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:26,270 These we'll pass around the room. Taking the data John recorded, 114 00:13:26,540 --> 00:13:34,220 and outputting it with the qualities of the fossil and then removing the colour so you can see the fossil in different ways. 115 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:41,750 But I think this sense of handling an object is really the key to 116 00:13:43,270 --> 00:13:46,720 what excites me about what Factum is doing with the Bodleian. 117 00:13:48,790 --> 00:13:50,470 When we started talking last year, 118 00:13:50,680 --> 00:14:00,520 Jo story and Jess Hodgkinson gave a talk about vellum. And out of that talk came a meeting with Alain Fouad George 119 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:11,110 who came to Madrid and said, would we focus on recording the vellum used for early Qur'ans. 120 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:16,810 And so John recorded this, which is a tiny detail showing the surface of the vellum. 121 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:22,020 And again, if you take the same image and look at it with raking light 122 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:33,120 you can appreciate the way the pigment's applied, the way the object, the physicality of the object, which is not possible really within conventional photography. 123 00:14:35,890 --> 00:14:39,910 Developing the software to go with the hardware is critical. 124 00:14:39,970 --> 00:14:44,860 And Carlos Bayod is going to talk later about this project, 125 00:14:44,860 --> 00:14:52,149 which was recording some incredibly deformed books in Lakenhal, which are actually, I mean for me 126 00:14:52,150 --> 00:15:01,630 I just love the books is the truth. They are the cloth samples made in Lakenhal of the famous black cloth that they were dying. 127 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:08,320 And these are the books to prove every yarn of cloth that came from Lakenhal, so they could say, no, this one's fake, 128 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:14,830 this is not Dutch black cloth. So all the books contain these little wedge shaped samples of black. 129 00:15:15,310 --> 00:15:19,600 And no one could really use them because the books are in such bad condition. 130 00:15:20,140 --> 00:15:25,000 But we wrote the software that after we'd scanned the pages, could flatten them and you'll hear more about that later. 131 00:15:28,530 --> 00:15:34,620 I think Carlos will also introduce what can be done with the data in different types of outputs. 132 00:15:34,620 --> 00:15:38,219 So making exact facsimiles is one. 133 00:15:38,220 --> 00:15:44,280 And the data being recorded here enables us to do extraordinary facsimile work. 134 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:50,190 Building the community of practice means we have to go into other collections. 135 00:15:50,190 --> 00:15:56,510 And so last year, the Helen Hamlyn Trust gave us the funds to 136 00:15:56,610 --> 00:16:02,310 have two Selene scanners that we could place into different collections for short periods of time. 137 00:16:02,610 --> 00:16:12,840 And it's proved incredibly positive. So right now, the Selene is in the Instituto Valencia de Don Juan in Madrid. 138 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:21,930 And it's recording a lot of the Islamic cloths and manuscripts and objects there. 139 00:16:22,260 --> 00:16:27,569 And there's also one at the moment in the Bruschettini collection in Milan 140 00:16:27,570 --> 00:16:37,860 which has been recording a wide range of objects. From this portolan chart, but to a whole lot of different fabrics especially. 141 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:49,020 And it's there, Mongol fabrics that are really opening the way to show what can be done with this system: starting to do 142 00:16:49,350 --> 00:16:54,690 recordings and digital restorations of a whole range of different fabric. 143 00:16:55,670 --> 00:17:04,400 But as I try and sort of focus the day, I want to basically say most of the work here is happening with the Selene. 144 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:11,270 The hardware and software and what you're going to hear about this afternoon from a whole 145 00:17:11,270 --> 00:17:17,030 group of different people who've been using it with Raphael drawings with 146 00:17:17,420 --> 00:17:22,610 the extraordinary copperplate that's been attributed to William Blake. 147 00:17:22,850 --> 00:17:32,120 And other case studies. But also we're doing photogrammetry and high resolution recording of, 148 00:17:32,120 --> 00:17:40,009 for example, the whole of the Divinity Schools and it's those that Richard was talking 149 00:17:40,010 --> 00:17:44,790 so again, just to pass around. There's some of these. 150 00:17:46,660 --> 00:17:54,200 Three and a half day period 151 00:17:54,590 --> 00:18:04,830 where we recorded the whole of the Divinity School ceiling, which in March, is going to become, a VR display 152 00:18:04,850 --> 00:18:08,870 so you'll be able to see it close up. But for me, I love the idea. 153 00:18:08,870 --> 00:18:18,500 These are actually greatly reduced. So, the one Deb is handling is actually about 50 to 40cm across, so they're reduced down. 154 00:18:18,950 --> 00:18:21,650 But the fact that with a 35 millimetre camera, 155 00:18:22,220 --> 00:18:30,410 the right skills and the right software you can now produce physical objects is something that never ceases to amaze me. 156 00:18:30,890 --> 00:18:37,660 So the ability, one of them is this head that's recorded 157 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:45,260 as a three dimensional form and explaining the importance of the ceiling can now take on a whole new character. 158 00:18:45,830 --> 00:18:53,610 We can look at it in different ways. We can show it as a VR. 159 00:18:55,250 --> 00:18:59,000 The way we're doing the VR. So this is actually, you'll see it on the screen, 160 00:18:59,030 --> 00:19:03,940 normally you would be immersed in it, but it's using the 161 00:19:03,950 --> 00:19:10,460 new Finnish headsets that were developed for pilots where you can be right close to the surface. 162 00:19:11,060 --> 00:19:15,470 There are no hand controls. It's all eye tracking. You physically move around it. 163 00:19:16,360 --> 00:19:25,330 Put the colour on. You can take the colour off. You can suddenly start to engage in a totally different way with the object you are looking at. 164 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:33,000 Anyways, you can experience the Tomb of Seti I, better, 165 00:19:34,210 --> 00:19:42,850 differently, from the experience of the original object because you're gravity free, so you could be close to the walls at any point in the two. 166 00:19:43,330 --> 00:19:47,080 So you can do in the VR what you would have to do 167 00:19:47,500 --> 00:19:55,719 with scaffolding normally. The final thing I want to do, because we mentioned the 168 00:19:55,720 --> 00:20:02,920 Natural History Museum and increasingly the recording of, or the merging of nature and culture. 169 00:20:03,340 --> 00:20:10,930 So just again as I was coming in here talking to Jo story about vellum and, you know, I could go on for hours now, 170 00:20:10,930 --> 00:20:18,730 talking about vellum and actually watching how it tells you that the data we're recording can tell you about animal diseases, 171 00:20:18,850 --> 00:20:25,510 herding, a whole lot of subjects that wouldn't normally come into a conversation about recording cultural heritage. 172 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,560 I want to show this image because this is where we are right now. 173 00:20:29,710 --> 00:20:35,260 On the left is a photogrammetry of a little bug, let's say a centimetre across. 174 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:43,270 And on the right is what we're experimenting with now, which is called Gaussian splatting. 175 00:20:43,930 --> 00:20:49,030 So if I can show you this little video to end on. There are about, 176 00:20:50,620 --> 00:20:55,059 how many, several billion specimens that are 177 00:20:55,060 --> 00:21:03,520 in natural history museums around Europe that are past their shelf life and are increasingly brittle and falling to bits. 178 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:12,250 And from these specimens, you can tell so much information about evolution, about change, about 179 00:21:13,210 --> 00:21:16,760 character of the insect 180 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,840 and what's happened to it. If you can record them in three dimensions. 181 00:21:21,890 --> 00:21:26,540 It's an enormous task and it's very complicated, but Gaussian splatting, 182 00:21:26,540 --> 00:21:30,820 and here you're watching a video. But if you were a researcher, you could control this. 183 00:21:30,830 --> 00:21:36,260 It's a three dimensional image. It's not a three dimensional model as such. 184 00:21:36,650 --> 00:21:39,860 And so you can see every hair, every detail. 185 00:21:40,340 --> 00:21:50,030 And it's this kind of research that's really pushing the envelopes, that are not only showing how technology can transform the formation of knowledge, 186 00:21:50,390 --> 00:21:56,420 but it can even break the professional barriers that have kept different knowledges apart. 187 00:21:56,900 --> 00:22:04,190 And for us, it's really this that ARCHiOx is pushing and developing. 188 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:12,670 So, I know we have to keep on target and on track today, so I'm going to hand over to John. 189 00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:17,200 Oh no, Judith, are you going to do this or do I? Sorry, Judith is going to do this. 190 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,719 Thank you Adam for setting the scene for us. So hello again 191 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:33,850 everyone. I'm Judith Siefring. I'm head of Digital Collections Discovery here at the Bodleian, so I'm working on the digital library side. 192 00:22:34,330 --> 00:22:42,250 So for this first session, we're going to, sort of, take a deep dive into the research findings being enabled by this first phase, 193 00:22:42,250 --> 00:22:46,360 second phase of ARCHiOx, and then we'll have a brief Q&A. 194 00:22:46,630 --> 00:22:52,270 And then after that, we'll take a break around 2:45 for some tea and coffee out in Blackwell Hall. 195 00:22:52,870 --> 00:22:57,309 So, first of our three speakers in this first section will be John. 196 00:22:57,310 --> 00:23:01,180 So John Barrett is senior photographer for the Bodleian Libraries. 197 00:23:01,690 --> 00:23:06,340 And since 2005, he's provided photographs of Bodleian originals for numerous publications. 198 00:23:06,820 --> 00:23:10,630 His work involves the development of new methods of recording Special Collections material. 199 00:23:11,020 --> 00:23:17,110 And he's the author of Imaging Guidelines for Digitisation of Rare and Special Materials, a document that was commissioned by the Bodleian. 200 00:23:17,110 --> 00:23:22,299 And so he's very much been the lead for the Bodleian for ARCHiOx. 201 00:23:22,300 --> 00:23:25,570 And I will hand over to him to talk us through some of the findings from phase two. 202 00:23:26,260 --> 00:23:29,760 Thank you, Judith. Good afternoon everyone. 203 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:36,610 I'm delighted to be with you today and to be able to share some of the amazing recordings which we've made for this exciting project. 204 00:23:37,590 --> 00:23:42,300 And it's a project which has involved making 3D recordings of our cultural heritage material. 205 00:23:43,140 --> 00:23:48,450 Prior to ARCHiOx, very little attention had been paid to the three dimensional surface of our collections. 206 00:23:48,780 --> 00:23:54,929 But through the recordings we've made for the project, we've come to realise that the materiality of manuscripts, books, 207 00:23:54,930 --> 00:23:59,640 printing plates and artwork can tell us a huge amount about who made them, 208 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,990 how they were made, and about people's interactions with them since they were made. 209 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:12,440 ARCHiOx, the Analysis and Recording of Cultural Heritage in Oxford began in January 2022. 210 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:17,690 The project has been funded through the generous support of the Helen Hamlyn Trust, 211 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:23,809 and the aim of the project has been to record originals from across Oxford University's 212 00:24:23,810 --> 00:24:27,800 Institutions using technology created by the Factum Foundation. 213 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,120 This is what that technology looks like. 214 00:24:32,420 --> 00:24:39,930 It's named the Selene and it's a 3D recording system, which was designed and developed by Factum's Head of Technology Jorge Cano. 215 00:24:40,950 --> 00:24:46,890 All of the recordings, which I'll share during this first session of today's conference, have been made with this incredible tool. 216 00:24:47,790 --> 00:24:57,690 The Selene uses a principle called photometric stereo to acquire both colour and 3D data through the capture and processing of just four photographs. 217 00:25:00,110 --> 00:25:05,960 Here we can see the four photographs in the left column, each lit at intervals of 90 degrees. 218 00:25:06,860 --> 00:25:14,660 Through analysing the position of the highlights and shadows, the four photographs can be processed in order to create additional 2D image files, 219 00:25:14,900 --> 00:25:19,460 which encode the direction and height of the surface at each pixel. 220 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:29,260 The Bodleian was the first institution to use the Selene and through our collaboration with Factum Foundation, we have assisted in its development. 221 00:25:30,510 --> 00:25:37,920 During this second phase of ARCHiOx, the recording system has not only been used at the Bodleian, but also at the Ashmolean Museum, 222 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:44,250 the Oxford University Museum of Natural History, and to record material from the History of Science Museum. 223 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:55,690 At the end of 2022, I presented this recording of what was considered to be an early 18th century printing plate. Being small and heavily corroded, 224 00:25:55,930 --> 00:25:58,120 the design was almost impossible to see. 225 00:26:00,020 --> 00:26:05,690 But through making a recording of a three dimensional surface, I demonstrated how the design could be revealed. 226 00:26:06,590 --> 00:26:13,910 The image on the right is called a shaded render. It's similar to making a plaster impression of the surface and then relighting it with a torch. 227 00:26:14,630 --> 00:26:19,670 This introduces shadows and highlights to reveal the surface without the distraction of its colour. 228 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:30,920 I also showed the recording of the reverse of the same plates. Revealing markings which were impossible to see in the conventional image: 229 00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:41,230 musical notes and words. After mirroring the image and adding a little of the colour to make it easier to read. 230 00:26:42,420 --> 00:26:48,640 I showed how we could annotate over the markings in order to reveal the entire design. 231 00:26:50,610 --> 00:26:54,270 Which we discovered was a musical score inspired by Psalm nine. 232 00:26:56,620 --> 00:27:02,110 But today I can share that not only do we know what the score looks like, but also what it sounds like. 233 00:27:06,190 --> 00:27:11,180 234 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:29,090 The piece which you've just heard is the first set of Psalms for Three Voices by William Child, dating to 1639. 235 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,950 And this recording has allowed researcher Chiara Betti to conclude that this small 236 00:27:33,950 --> 00:27:38,840 printing plate may be the earliest surviving engraved music plate in the UK. 237 00:27:41,700 --> 00:27:47,010 Just as with other research imaging techniques which have become commonplace over the last few decades, 238 00:27:47,370 --> 00:27:51,900 photometric stereo is proving to be immensely powerful as a tool for discovery. 239 00:27:55,070 --> 00:28:00,980 As well as being able to produce images capable of showing features which can't be easily seen or photographed, 240 00:28:01,490 --> 00:28:17,490 it can also be used to make detailed measurements. We can interact with the images, relighting the renders from any direction or height. 241 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:22,020 We can capture large originals in their entirety, not just small samples. 242 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,590 And not only are these recordings highly effective and versatile, 243 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:32,880 they are also extremely quick to make. The capture and processing of an A5 size tile takes less than a minute. 244 00:28:36,370 --> 00:28:44,050 The Selene is particularly useful in revealing the tool markings left by authors and artists throughout the centuries and across continents. 245 00:28:47,140 --> 00:28:54,250 And in almost all cases, it's the tools which don't leave a visible trace that are most successfully captured rather than those which do. 246 00:28:57,010 --> 00:29:02,170 Though a feather quill may leave a faint scratch on the surface of a page of parchment or paper, 247 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,560 the surface reveals very little of the text. 248 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:12,830 However, in this case, the ruled horizontal lines which were not present in the colour image can be seen clearly. 249 00:29:15,660 --> 00:29:21,630 The previous example was a recording of the Bodleian's earliest map of the world, dating from the 11th century. 250 00:29:22,170 --> 00:29:28,170 The volume was made in Milan, and is a version of a work by Bede, the English monk and Anglo-Saxon scholar. 251 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,529 Though the nib of a pen is difficult to capture in the surface 252 00:29:33,530 --> 00:29:41,510 recording, the Selene is incredibly effective in recording markings made using a sharp tool, such as a stylus or divider. 253 00:29:44,030 --> 00:29:49,250 Here we have a detail from an astronomical manuscript which is covered with preparatory stylus incisions. 254 00:29:49,490 --> 00:29:57,710 It's just that they're very, very difficult to see. Until we make a render of the surface and exclude the colour. 255 00:30:01,570 --> 00:30:06,730 Evidence of the use of sharp scribal tools has not only been found in European manuscripts. 256 00:30:06,940 --> 00:30:13,810 Markings made with reed pens and iron styluses have been recorded from manuscripts from our South Asian collections too. 257 00:30:15,670 --> 00:30:19,690 We can see an example of this in this recording of a Sinhalese palm leaf. 258 00:30:22,130 --> 00:30:27,710 Where the outline of this deer has been both incised and then pricked as a result of copying. 259 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:37,430 But of course, the practice of writing with sharp tools dates back far further. Incised 260 00:30:37,450 --> 00:30:43,450 text has been recorded from a variety of substrates for this project, from clay to wood and wax. 261 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:53,280 Such as the second century tablet, which had never been imaged in any way until earlier this year when the following recording was made. 262 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,800 A new 3D recording of one of several wax tablets. 263 00:31:02,950 --> 00:31:09,160 Photometric stereo imaging allows us to view brushstrokes and pigment layers in ways that we've never been able to before. 264 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:17,780 We can see these as distinct layers on the surface of the page at a resolution of 4 million pixels per square inch. 265 00:31:18,020 --> 00:31:22,220 The recording reveals the composition and condition of these pigments. 266 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:28,940 What we're looking at is a detail from a copy of an Egyptian manuscript compiled almost exactly a thousand years ago. 267 00:31:33,450 --> 00:31:40,680 The example shown here being the waqwaq tree whose branches or fruits became the heads of men, women, and monstrous animals. 268 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,420 And finally we have tools used for writing and drawing on metal: 269 00:31:47,570 --> 00:31:55,460 the burin and the etching stylus. These were the tools used for the production of hundreds of printing plates held in the Bodleian's collections. 270 00:31:57,270 --> 00:32:01,440 The latter having been used in the production of this heavily oxidised copper plate. 271 00:32:01,980 --> 00:32:07,470 It's strange shape suggests that it would have been used to print hand fans during the 18th century. 272 00:32:10,100 --> 00:32:19,560 And this is what the recording of the surface has revealed. With the design revealed, I started to consider what the fan might have looked like. 273 00:32:20,070 --> 00:32:29,660 Here we can see my initial prototype. And a final coloured version, allowing us to see the design as it might have appeared perhaps 280 years ago. 274 00:32:32,870 --> 00:32:38,420 The recreation of the fan demonstrates how 3D recordings could be used in the production of facsimiles. 275 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:45,380 In 2022, the Factum Foundation made a facsimile of the Bodleian's Gough Map of Great Britain. 276 00:32:45,830 --> 00:32:51,290 And since then, we have recorded dozens of other amazing maps and atlases from our collections. 277 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:59,470 Here is a tile from the recording of the Gough map, which reveals tiny indentations. 278 00:33:02,270 --> 00:33:07,550 Which were used as a technique to copy the position of geographical features from a precursor map. 279 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,400 We've since discovered that this was a method used in the production of other important maps, 280 00:33:15,610 --> 00:33:18,970 like this 16th century edition of the Al-Idrisi world map. 281 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:24,520 The render reveals pricking around the coastlines and in the corners of islands. 282 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,530 In this example, we have a page of manuscript by explorer and cartographer William Baffin. 283 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,500 And again, the same copying technique is evident in his Atlas of 1619. 284 00:33:47,260 --> 00:33:53,650 The frontispiece of the same volume has been planned in great detail with prepatory stylus before adding ink to the page. 285 00:33:56,290 --> 00:33:59,320 With the colour removed, this preparatory stage becomes clear. 286 00:34:02,900 --> 00:34:05,240 You can see the same technique in his elevations. 287 00:34:07,470 --> 00:34:12,900 Where stylus markings have served as a form of shorthand, in this case marking the position of trees. 288 00:34:16,590 --> 00:34:21,060 We can also see how Baffin's final design sometimes deviates from his preparatory work. 289 00:34:21,660 --> 00:34:24,690 Here we can see how the position of the word 'north' has been altered. 290 00:34:27,020 --> 00:34:31,250 And on the left we can see a decoration absent in the final design. 291 00:34:33,660 --> 00:34:37,890 But throughout centuries we've attempted not only to map the earth, but also the heavens. 292 00:34:38,430 --> 00:34:42,210 The volume you see here is from the collections of the History of Science Museum. 293 00:34:44,310 --> 00:34:49,260 At least some of the devices from this manuscript were likely to have been created in the 1550s. 294 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:58,300 The colour layer removed from the 3D recording, we can see how each and every line was meticulously incised. 295 00:35:00,030 --> 00:35:03,420 The volume features seven instruments, including this astrolabe. 296 00:35:06,270 --> 00:35:13,050 By isolating each component, it's been possible to produce an animation, giving us a sense of how the astrolabe might operate. 297 00:35:14,210 --> 00:35:17,470 The animation we see here was produced by my colleague Dylan Schirmacher. 298 00:35:18,140 --> 00:35:23,570 And we can see, while the rete turns, that we can blend from the colour to the 3D render. 299 00:35:32,700 --> 00:35:38,850 Having made the previous recording, Stephen Johnston of the History of Science Museum invited me to record this brass astrolabe. 300 00:35:39,770 --> 00:35:45,230 It was made in Germany in 1521 and includes three double sided plates. 301 00:35:45,650 --> 00:35:53,930 We can see these change in this animation. These are positioned behind the moving parts and contain markings which specify latitude. 302 00:35:55,530 --> 00:36:03,600 Just as with the recordings of the Bodleian's copper printing plates, the 3D renders reveal the markings on this astrolabe with exceptional clarity. 303 00:36:09,620 --> 00:36:16,970 As we saw from the William Baffin Atlas, stylus incisions are extremely hard to spot but can be recorded very effectively with the Selene. 304 00:36:17,900 --> 00:36:23,660 There are several reasons for making these markings, and through these recordings we can better understand their purpose. 305 00:36:26,630 --> 00:36:28,400 During the previous ARCHiOx conference. 306 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:36,590 A series of recordings from this eighth century Acts of the Apostles were shared by Leicester University PhD candidate Jessica Hodgkinson. 307 00:36:38,940 --> 00:36:43,740 The Selene recording of this lower margin revealed an inscription made in dry point. 308 00:36:46,150 --> 00:36:50,830 Totally absent from the colour recording and impossible to see under conventional lighting. 309 00:36:53,340 --> 00:36:56,690 What was clear and complete from the recording was the name Eadberg, 310 00:36:56,730 --> 00:37:04,400 preceded by a cross. But as well as discovering incised text in the margins, 311 00:37:05,620 --> 00:37:11,770 the Selene was also successful in revealing informal illustrations which captured the attention of the media. 312 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:19,050 Mysterious figures, whose outlines may have been drawn around a finger or thumb. 313 00:37:21,820 --> 00:37:25,740 Jessica has continued to find evidence of dry point inscriptions while working 314 00:37:25,740 --> 00:37:30,000 as Special Collections curatorial assistant at New College here in Oxford. 315 00:37:32,180 --> 00:37:39,260 In June of this year, Jess and I recorded a folio from this small 16th century manuscript which was made for King Henry VIII. 316 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,000 Here we see a section of the lower margin. 317 00:37:47,390 --> 00:37:49,880 And this is the recording of the surface of the same page. 318 00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:55,760 Jessica's research suggests that the first letter appears to be a characteristically Tudor 'H'. 319 00:37:58,380 --> 00:38:06,210 And towards the end of the dry point addition, the Roman numeral VIII can also be identified, followed by a final calligraphic flourish. 320 00:38:07,140 --> 00:38:10,590 It's impossible to be certain that this inscription is the work of Henry VIII, 321 00:38:10,860 --> 00:38:15,090 but given its position beneath an initial enclosing a crowned Tudor rose, 322 00:38:15,420 --> 00:38:21,900 there is plenty of evidence which suggests that this could indeed be his signature discovered after five centuries. 323 00:38:25,050 --> 00:38:28,170 And these kinds of markings have been revealed throughout the project. 324 00:38:28,590 --> 00:38:32,190 Here we have an example from a 13th century manuscript from Abingdon. 325 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:39,120 It's a manuscript which researcher Luise Morawetz invited me to record. 326 00:38:39,750 --> 00:38:43,500 And we had no idea that among the numerous dry points and inscriptions, 327 00:38:44,650 --> 00:38:48,340 we would find a beast lurking in the lower flyleaf. 328 00:38:51,180 --> 00:38:56,100 Stylus editions not only reveal readers interactions with manuscripts. 329 00:38:56,130 --> 00:38:59,550 Sometimes the markings are evidence of processes in their production. 330 00:39:01,740 --> 00:39:11,160 From this 11th century manuscript, we see how incised text served as a reminder for the addition of rubrication in a later scribal stint. 331 00:39:14,070 --> 00:39:18,060 From the render, you might be able to make out the text in the left margin. 332 00:39:19,940 --> 00:39:26,900 Which reads virginiia. And this has been adapted to virginitatis in red ink in the uppermost line. 333 00:39:30,550 --> 00:39:35,890 In this 16th century Arabic volume, a stylus has been used for planning the page layout. 334 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,620 Perhaps these could be instructional markings informing another scribe of their intentions. 335 00:39:44,150 --> 00:39:47,570 Or simply a technique used to ensure a neat presentation. 336 00:39:51,500 --> 00:39:55,700 Here we have another example of how research imaging can assist in understanding 337 00:39:55,700 --> 00:40:00,020 the processes involved in the manufacture of manuscripts and artworks. 338 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:06,410 This Moralised Bible was produced in Paris between 1226 and 1275. 339 00:40:08,550 --> 00:40:12,720 The frontispiece shows God holding a divider creating heaven and earth. 340 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,210 Eight medallions from each page were created using the same tool. 341 00:40:22,660 --> 00:40:26,440 By using a range of imaging techniques. Photometric stereo, 342 00:40:27,660 --> 00:40:33,500 transmitted light, ultraviolet, infrared, and hyperspectral imaging. 343 00:40:35,270 --> 00:40:39,020 We can, in a sense, turn back the clock and see how the manuscript was made. 344 00:40:39,350 --> 00:40:41,420 So beginning with a blank sheet of parchment. 345 00:40:43,330 --> 00:40:49,690 The first stage would have involved tracing a rough design around a model or earlier volume with a broad, rounded tool. 346 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,950 Basic under drawing would then have been added in a carbon based ink. 347 00:40:57,750 --> 00:41:03,210 Improvements would then have been added. Followed by the burnished gold leaf. 348 00:41:05,750 --> 00:41:10,100 3D recordings then help us determine the order in which the colour pigments were applied. 349 00:41:10,340 --> 00:41:14,590 Firstly, red led. Dark azurite. 350 00:41:16,910 --> 00:41:20,240 And a copper pigment was used for the turquoise of the crucifix. 351 00:41:22,310 --> 00:41:26,830 A lighter azurite. Followed by an organic red, 352 00:41:26,980 --> 00:41:34,490 most likely derived from insects. And finally a brown ink, completing the details in the faces. 353 00:41:37,010 --> 00:41:44,300 The Bodleian's volume contains 1784 miniatures, each one measuring just 7.5cm in diameter. 354 00:41:45,140 --> 00:41:51,110 Two sets of these three part manuscripts were produced, which must have taken an enormous amount of time and dedication. 355 00:41:55,520 --> 00:42:00,380 As we've seen, the recordings made with the Selene are entirely complementary with existing imaging techniques. 356 00:42:00,710 --> 00:42:06,950 In this example, we see a Coptic Gnostic text recorded as an albedo or colour image without shadow, 357 00:42:07,340 --> 00:42:15,410 a photometric stereo render, a transmitted light image where the manuscript is illuminated from beneath, and an infrared recording. 358 00:42:15,810 --> 00:42:20,540 These can be layered and blended to allow us to reveal the design more clearly. 359 00:42:23,060 --> 00:42:29,690 There's no right or wrong approach. A composite of multiple layers may provide a researcher with valuable new information. 360 00:42:32,380 --> 00:42:40,080 Working side by side of a researcher is mutually beneficial, as it ensures that the final render is made with the benefit of context. 361 00:42:43,030 --> 00:42:44,860 To conclude this first presentation, 362 00:42:45,020 --> 00:42:52,450 I'd like to take this opportunity to shed some light on some originals which have not received as much attention as many of our books and manuscripts. 363 00:42:53,290 --> 00:42:57,430 Though they cover the walls of every corridor and reading room throughout our historic libraries, 364 00:42:57,940 --> 00:43:06,030 in many cases, we know very little about them. And yet many of the Bodleian's portraits have an interesting story to tell. 365 00:43:06,900 --> 00:43:10,350 Here we have a curious case of the back of a painting not matching the front. 366 00:43:10,950 --> 00:43:18,360 The wooden panel bears a label stating that the portrait depicts Sir Thomas More, the 16th century statesman and martyr. 367 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,760 It's a portrait that was a particular interest to this man. Nowell 368 00:43:24,790 --> 00:43:30,100 Myres, the Bodleian's librarian from 1948 to 1965. 369 00:43:30,310 --> 00:43:35,620 Like his father, Myres was an archaeologist and historian and, perhaps in the spirit of uncovering the past, 370 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:40,420 he embraced x-ray imaging in order to examine portraits from the Bodleian's collection. 371 00:43:41,540 --> 00:43:47,869 In 1955, Myres wrote to paintings conservator Horace Buttery to inform him that an x-ray 372 00:43:47,870 --> 00:43:52,250 of the Thomas Moore portrait had revealed a perfectly preserved head of a lady. 373 00:43:53,030 --> 00:44:00,170 He goes on to write, 'Sir Thomas More of course, is quite worthless and I think we must have him off and chercher la femme.' 374 00:44:03,020 --> 00:44:07,340 Thankfully, before Buttery removed the overpainting, the portrait was photographed. 375 00:44:07,790 --> 00:44:11,210 This poor quality black and white contact print is all that remains. 376 00:44:11,990 --> 00:44:17,810 The photograph reveals that the overpainting is a copy of Hans Holbein's portrait from 1527. 377 00:44:20,610 --> 00:44:27,890 So what did Myres and Buttery uncover? The original female portrait is not of significant quality, 378 00:44:28,220 --> 00:44:33,710 but evidence from a partial inscription suggests that she may have been painted in the 16th century. 379 00:44:34,580 --> 00:44:37,970 But is there evidence which remains on the surface from the overpainting? 380 00:44:41,390 --> 00:44:42,500 As this animation plays, 381 00:44:42,500 --> 00:44:50,450 we can see in the Selene recording a series of S-shaped forms extending from the sitter's left ear to the left side of her forehead. 382 00:44:51,050 --> 00:44:58,430 And if we then fade to the 1950s photograph with the overpainting, we see that these are in fact the links of Thomas More's chain of office. 383 00:45:02,620 --> 00:45:10,590 Perhaps Myres was delighted or perhaps he felt short changed. When overlaid in exactly the same position, we can compare the two portraits. 384 00:45:12,970 --> 00:45:17,410 Whether or not we consider Myres to have been right to request the removal of the overpainting, 385 00:45:17,620 --> 00:45:23,200 what is less ambiguous is that he should have ensured that it was properly recorded before being erased forever. 386 00:45:23,950 --> 00:45:31,630 The Thomas More portrait could have been photographed in colour. Kodachrome was introduced 20 years earlier, in 1935. 387 00:45:32,110 --> 00:45:38,350 However, nearly 70 years after the overpainting was removed, we can have a go at recreating it digitally. 388 00:45:40,450 --> 00:45:47,680 Here the original frame has been reinstated and the colour has been added to the monochrome photograph, using Holbein's portrait as a guide. 389 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:54,090 This is perhaps how the Thomas Moore portrait would have appeared from the 17th century. 390 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:04,310 This small panel painting of Charles I bears a resemblance to the portrait painted by Anthony van Dyck in 1633. 391 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:12,780 Recording that we're looking at is not a conventional photograph. Instead, it's a combination of both a colour image and a render of the surface. 392 00:46:13,500 --> 00:46:18,870 Though unconventional, the image provides far more information regarding the materiality of the painting. 393 00:46:22,540 --> 00:46:28,030 And using a high resolution recording system is especially important when recording a small portrait like this one. 394 00:46:28,630 --> 00:46:33,880 The Selene even allows us to record the colour and surface data through the domed glass. 395 00:46:35,850 --> 00:46:40,140 Something which would be either challenging or impossible to do with a laser based system. 396 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,380 Here we see the colour image, render, 397 00:46:46,330 --> 00:46:51,159 and finally the composite. At first 398 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:59,050 this 1897 portrait of Thomas Alcock might appear to be a pencil sketch, but it is in fact a collotype print. 399 00:47:01,210 --> 00:47:05,200 As you might expect to see, we have no tool markings in the surface, 400 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,620 only the chain lines and laid lines embedded in the paper. 401 00:47:11,270 --> 00:47:16,360 Being able to record light sensitive material like this print both quickly and without 402 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:21,560 subjecting it to bright lighting has ensured that it has not been damaged during capture. 403 00:47:27,220 --> 00:47:31,120 And finally we have another portrait featuring an unidentified female sitter. 404 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:38,830 In this case, she was revealed in 1838 when an overpainted portrait of Mary, Queen of Scots was removed. 405 00:47:40,650 --> 00:47:46,770 Before removing the overpainting, the portrait, as it appeared in the early 19th century, was copied not once 406 00:47:47,930 --> 00:47:56,640 but twice. This is a recording which I made in 2022, prior to her much needed conservation treatment. 407 00:47:58,630 --> 00:48:06,160 And this is how she appeared earlier this year when I recorded her again halfway through restoration and with the varnish having been removed. 408 00:48:09,500 --> 00:48:17,150 Recorded at over a million pixels per square inch. The recording even allows us to see the woodgrain in the panel on which the painting was made. 409 00:48:18,050 --> 00:48:23,960 We can see how the paints have cracked and flaked. We can exclude the colour and concentrate only on the surface. 410 00:48:25,300 --> 00:48:31,870 And we can use other types of shaders like this Atlas shader, which reveals the surface using a spectrum of colour. 411 00:48:36,790 --> 00:48:41,680 Not only have the recordings proved to be useful for the conservator in trying to untangle the painting's history, 412 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:47,410 they've also ensured that the painting is documented before, during, and after its treatment. 413 00:48:48,010 --> 00:48:53,200 This demonstrates how photometric stereo imaging can be used both as a technique for discovery, 414 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:58,150 and also as an effective means of ensuring the preservation of our collections material. 415 00:48:58,780 --> 00:49:03,520 And I'll be focusing on the theme of preservation in the next session. 416 00:49:15,100 --> 00:49:22,780 Wonderful. Thank you, John. So for the second, part of this session, we're going to focus on some new research. 417 00:49:23,290 --> 00:49:30,190 I'd like to introduce Mark Crosby, who is an associate professor in English and the director of the Digital Centre at Kansas State University. 418 00:49:30,790 --> 00:49:36,730 He has published on William Blake and his circle, and most recently co-edited a collection on Blake's manuscripts. 419 00:49:37,150 --> 00:49:42,970 Mark is currently preparing a catalogue of Blake's apprenticeship materials in the Bodleian Library and the Society of Antiquaries. 420 00:49:43,380 --> 00:49:47,320 And Mark is going to talk to us about his findings on copper plates. 421 00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:05,540 I should start by saying the last time I was in this building giving a talk on Blake, I went on for 75 minutes. 422 00:50:05,810 --> 00:50:08,180 I will not tax your attention for that long! I've got 20 minutes. 423 00:50:08,660 --> 00:50:14,660 So to start, before I dive into the copper plates, I'd like to present some historical context to begin with. 424 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:31,400 In 1809, the antiquarian, first director of the Society of Antiquaries, Richard Gough, bequethed his vast collection to the Bodleian Library. 425 00:50:32,370 --> 00:50:33,870 Included in this collection 426 00:50:35,150 --> 00:50:45,500 were the materials relating to his mammoth publication, Sepulchral Monuments in Great Britain, which was published between 1786 and 1796. 427 00:50:47,770 --> 00:50:51,100 The publishing, this particular volume. 428 00:50:53,330 --> 00:50:56,780 This particular volume contains engravings by James Basire. 429 00:50:58,620 --> 00:51:02,759 The engravings were made along with the preparatory drawings in the 1770s, 430 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:11,070 between 1773 and 1779 / 1780, which coincided with William Blake's apprenticeship. 431 00:51:11,430 --> 00:51:18,960 Now, before Blake became an apprentice to Richard Gough, he spent four years at Henry Pars' Drawing School on the strand. 432 00:51:19,290 --> 00:51:23,490 Now the Drawing School was seen as the most pre-eminent drawing school in London at the time, 433 00:51:23,850 --> 00:51:30,360 and it was considered a prerequisite to attending Saint Martin's Academy, which would be the precursor to the Royal Academy. 434 00:51:31,020 --> 00:51:36,690 So if you wanted to attend Saint Martin's and then the Royal Academy, you would have to attend Pars' Drawing School. 435 00:51:37,170 --> 00:51:42,630 Now, Blake demonstrated a precocious talent for drawing, so much so that his father, 436 00:51:43,050 --> 00:51:49,140 a Hosier by trade, wanted to apprentice Blake to a painter of eminence. 437 00:51:49,470 --> 00:51:57,660 However, the fees involved in the apprenticeship were so much that Blake instead requested to be apprenticed to an engraver. 438 00:51:57,990 --> 00:52:03,570 Now, the first engraving master that Blake's father approached was a chap called William Wynne Ryland. 439 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:11,370 When Blake was introduced to William Wynne Ryland, Blake reportedly said to his father, I do not like that man's face. 440 00:52:11,610 --> 00:52:14,040 He will live to be hanged. 441 00:52:15,180 --> 00:52:24,720 Ten years later, William Wynne Ryland was convicted of forging East India Company bills and hanged by the neck at Tyburn. 442 00:52:25,530 --> 00:52:30,870 Some say Blake is a prophet and a visionary. Maybe this is the evidence for such things. 443 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:41,430 Instead, Blake was apprenticed to James Basire on the 4th of August 1772 for the princely sum of £52. 444 00:52:41,700 --> 00:52:47,640 The apprenticeship involved spending seven years living with the Basire household. 445 00:52:48,150 --> 00:52:55,230 So he'd moved from his home in Poland Street to Basire's studio in Great Queen Street, just near Lincoln's Inn. 446 00:52:55,770 --> 00:52:59,910 And here we have the documentation from the Stationers Records in London, 447 00:53:00,150 --> 00:53:06,780 where you have William Blake signing away his life for seven years at the tender age of 14. 448 00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:14,829 Now, there is plenty of evidence we have for Blake and what he was doing during his apprenticeship. 449 00:53:14,830 --> 00:53:21,940 And some of this evidence is first hand, that is, people who knew Blake, who worked with Blake or friends with Blake during his life. 450 00:53:22,210 --> 00:53:26,620 So we can infer that they got this evidence from Blake directly. 451 00:53:27,220 --> 00:53:36,070 In particular, what happened in 1773 is that Blake was sent to Westminster Abbey to make a series of preparatory drawings of 452 00:53:36,070 --> 00:53:42,850 the medieval royal tombs and effigies of wall paintings that then were to be engraved for Gough's publication. 453 00:53:45,390 --> 00:53:53,100 And this is Basire's studio in Great Queen Street. And this is a representation of the engraving studio. Now as an apprentice 454 00:53:53,340 --> 00:53:59,580 the first years would have involved some of the menial tasks like cleaning the studio, preparing the copper plates. 455 00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:05,790 But clearly Blake was such a good draughtsman that Basire entrusted him, just one year into his apprenticeship, 456 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,720 to going make these preparatory drawings for this very significant publication 457 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:18,300 of Gough's. We also have evidence that Blake, by 1773, could engrave. 458 00:54:18,420 --> 00:54:23,460 Now, what you're seeing here are the only two states of what we think of today 459 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,740 (and maybe this will have to be revised after this talk) of Blake's earliest engravings. 460 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:40,080 They are engravings after a figure from Michelangelo's The Death of the Crucifixion of Saint Peter, from engraving by Francesco Salviati. 461 00:54:40,590 --> 00:54:49,260 Now the one on your left contains an inscription that reads 'engraved when I was a beginner at Basire's'. 462 00:54:49,260 --> 00:54:56,820 And then the later one, actually gives us the date 'engraved by W Blake, 1773, from an old Italian drawing'. 463 00:54:57,570 --> 00:55:00,840 The state on the right is the later state, 464 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:05,610 the second state. So it's the state on the left, which is the first state which we can date to 1773. 465 00:55:05,820 --> 00:55:08,760 Now, the fascinating thing about this, by one year into his apprenticeship, 466 00:55:09,090 --> 00:55:13,049 Blake already had mastered the visual language of line engraving. That he could 467 00:55:13,050 --> 00:55:19,080 cover a copper plate with the series of incised linear patterns to recreate form, 468 00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:25,230 tone, and depth. In other words, by 1773, Blake could engrave. 469 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:35,810 Now when he went to Westminster Abbey, he spent between 1773 to possibly 1777 making a series of preparatory drawings. 470 00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:39,380 To give you a sense of where he was during this period. 471 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:50,000 In 1774 he starts in the Confessor's chapel, this is just behind the high altar, making drawings of the royal effigies and tombs. 472 00:55:51,170 --> 00:55:59,990 The following year, he moves onto the great Cosmati pavement in front of the high altar, faces to the north 473 00:56:00,260 --> 00:56:09,320 and starts sketching the tombs of, the recently revealed tombs of King Sebert, supposedly the original founder of Westminster Abbey, 474 00:56:09,710 --> 00:56:12,830 as well as the medieval wall paintings that were there. 475 00:56:12,980 --> 00:56:21,590 Now, these medieval wall paintings at the time were believed to have been executed by a contemporary of Giotto, a chap called Calvinatti. 476 00:56:22,930 --> 00:56:30,100 He did an about turn to face the opposite direction, and did a series of preparatory sketches of the other royal tombs on the other side of the 477 00:56:30,460 --> 00:56:37,000 Cosmati pavement, and then moved to Saint Edmund's Chapel to sketch the tombs there. 478 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:46,189 In total he did over 50 drawings. Now these drawings, are all signed J Basire, J Basire del. 479 00:56:46,190 --> 00:56:49,150 The Latinate formula for delineating he is the author of them. 480 00:56:49,300 --> 00:56:56,050 Now, this was commonplace practice for the master of the studio to sign any work coming out of the studio. 481 00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:06,290 And what I've been doing with John over the last year and a half is looking at both the drawings and the copper plates. 482 00:57:06,650 --> 00:57:11,270 Now, it's been accepted in Blake's scholarship that 483 00:57:11,270 --> 00:57:14,840 many of these drawings are attributed to Blake because of the circumstantial evidence. 484 00:57:15,290 --> 00:57:24,160 And the six copper plates of the portraits of kings and queens have also been accepted as attributed to Blake. 485 00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:30,950 So part of the investigation that we've been conducting is whether or not the other copper plates after 486 00:57:30,950 --> 00:57:35,450 Blake's preparatory drawings are also or could also be attributed to Blake. 487 00:57:35,750 --> 00:57:45,830 So one of the first things we did, or I asked John to do, was to use the Selene technology to look at the six oval copper plate portraits, 488 00:57:46,220 --> 00:57:52,980 to see if we could find the consistencies in terms of the depth of lines that were etched in there. 489 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,420 And what we found is across all six copper plate portraits, 490 00:57:56,630 --> 00:58:03,950 there is a consistency of depth, roughly 18 microns deep, which is a quarter of the width of a human hair, 491 00:58:03,950 --> 00:58:13,220 so very shallow. And that's consistent across all six copper plates, which would suggest the same hand was responsible for the etching of these. 492 00:58:14,450 --> 00:58:28,649 Press play. And we focus on particular areas of, sort of densely hatched areas under the eyes, around the ears and, as I said, 493 00:58:28,650 --> 00:58:36,780 all of these measurements prove to be very consistent, which again suggests that the same hand is responsible for them. 494 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:44,710 Again, all of the engravings that come from this studio are signed by him. 495 00:58:44,980 --> 00:58:49,600 Now, there are question marks over the rest of the engravings, in large part because 496 00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:55,760 the first volume of Sepulchral Monuments wasn't published until 1786, which is 497 00:58:57,020 --> 00:59:05,930 seven years after Blake completes his apprenticeship, and there's also one engraving that bears the date 1783, which again would post date Blake's 498 00:59:06,910 --> 00:59:13,209 involvement in this particular plate. However, we know from the Gough correspondence and his 499 00:59:13,210 --> 00:59:22,120 manuscript autobiography here in the Bodleian that he started working on this project in 1771 or 1772, 500 00:59:22,330 --> 00:59:29,620 and commissioned Basire to start the process of making the prepatory drawings and the engravings in 1773. 501 00:59:29,860 --> 00:59:37,660 That's to say the engravings, some of the engravings were done much earlier than the publication date of the volume in 1786. 502 00:59:39,410 --> 00:59:45,080 Now there are a couple of plates in particular that require our attention. 503 00:59:45,620 --> 00:59:51,409 Um, what I was interested in doing is looking at the rectos and the versos of the copper plates. Now, 504 00:59:51,410 --> 00:59:55,040 on many of the copper plates on the rectos you have the printed image. 505 00:59:55,310 --> 01:00:00,530 And now on the versos, there were some extraordinary markings. On this plate in particular, 506 01:00:00,980 --> 01:00:10,290 what we have is a series of practice work. Now for an engraver to learn how to engrave 507 01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:14,160 they needed to use the engraving tools and a copper plate. 508 01:00:14,790 --> 01:00:22,110 And what you're looking at now, is the verso of a copper plate filled with practice work. 509 01:00:23,410 --> 01:00:27,240 Basire's studio was famous for its linear style. 510 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:33,560 A series, a visual language that uses linear patterns to recreate form and tone. 511 01:00:33,860 --> 01:00:38,540 And this is an apprentice practising those patterns on a copper plate. 512 01:00:40,740 --> 01:00:46,380 So what we have is a consistency in depth of line and spacing of line. 513 01:00:46,710 --> 01:00:55,680 This demonstrates the apprentice engraver was practising putting pressure on a burin to gouge out these lines at a consistent depth, 514 01:00:55,830 --> 01:01:03,900 and a consistent width. The consistent width gives you a consistent tone, and the consistent depth again indicates a consistent pressure 515 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:10,420 when creating these patterns. In addition to straight lines, we also have hatching, 516 01:01:10,690 --> 01:01:18,040 one of the main aspects of a linear approach is the use of hatching to create, again, depth and tone. 517 01:01:18,310 --> 01:01:21,910 And here we have rectilinear areas. The one on your left is 518 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:27,580 an apprentice practising how to create hatching repeating patterns. 519 01:01:27,820 --> 01:01:35,860 There's also some swirls and what could be seen as sort of curved lines and potentially sort of vegetative, 520 01:01:35,860 --> 01:01:44,350 shapes that correspond with some of the copper plates attributed to Blake that contain similar curved lines. 521 01:01:44,710 --> 01:01:50,230 In other words, an apprentice practising these curved lines by using a Burin or an etching needle, 522 01:01:50,530 --> 01:01:55,030 are evidence on the rectos of these copper plates. 523 01:01:55,150 --> 01:01:56,020 Versos, sorry. 524 01:01:56,320 --> 01:02:04,930 In the case of these vegetative lines, it sort of anticipates Blake's own use of interlinear vegetation, most famously in his illuminated books. 525 01:02:04,930 --> 01:02:14,410 And here's an example from the Bodleian copy of Songs of Innocence which Blake produced exactly ten years after he finished his apprenticeship. 526 01:02:14,860 --> 01:02:17,200 It's probably his most accessible work. 527 01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:24,160 And if you're interested and need a Christmas Present, the Bodleian have a wonderful edition for sale right now in the bookstore. 528 01:02:26,970 --> 01:02:33,250 So one of the things that the Selene technology has allowed us to do is to 529 01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:39,710 get information, render the information in a way that is just impossible with the naked eye. 530 01:02:40,130 --> 01:02:45,110 And so in addition to the squiggly lines and straight lines and hatching marks, 531 01:02:45,350 --> 01:02:51,829 there's also a series of semicircles which could only have been made with a dry point compass. 532 01:02:51,830 --> 01:02:57,560 And John has been able to detect the shadow impressions of where the compass 533 01:02:57,590 --> 01:03:04,130 would have set as Blake started to experiment with these semicircles. 534 01:03:04,430 --> 01:03:13,810 Why is that sort of significant? Well, we find in the finished engravings, a series of swirls that were used with drypoint compass 535 01:03:13,910 --> 01:03:20,660 and Blake himself about four years after he completed his apprenticeship and went into business as a printmaker, 536 01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:25,220 he uses a compass in architectural designs. And this is from 1784. 537 01:03:25,570 --> 01:03:29,450 And Blake's use of a compass you can see at the top and bottom on the left hand side. 538 01:03:31,980 --> 01:03:37,080 Compasses and circles also feature as visual motifs throughout Blake's works. 539 01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,000 Most famously, this is called the Ancient of Days, 540 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:46,290 you may be familiar with this particular image. Where you have the Urizenic God figure circumscribed by 541 01:03:47,410 --> 01:03:51,370 a globe of some sort, holding the dividers, 542 01:03:51,370 --> 01:03:55,900 or most Blake scholars interpret this as the golden compass mentioned in Milton's Paradise Lost. 543 01:03:56,380 --> 01:04:01,209 Compasses also feature regularly in his watercolour paintings. He did 537 544 01:04:01,210 --> 01:04:07,660 watercolour illustrations to Young's Night Thoughts, several of which include these compasses 545 01:04:09,130 --> 01:04:17,080 as well as the Illuminated Book, Jerusalem, his longest and most complex work in illuminated printing, includes a compass as well. 546 01:04:17,770 --> 01:04:20,810 And most famously, this image you may be familiar with 547 01:04:20,850 --> 01:04:25,060 if you've been to the British Library, you have this Paolozzi's fabulous sculpture. 548 01:04:25,460 --> 01:04:32,500 This is in the Tate Britain at the moment. This is Newton using a compass to circumscribe an arc within a triangle. 549 01:04:35,530 --> 01:04:45,100 On the back of another copper plate, we noticed some other incisions that were less structured, more spontaneous, and perhaps playful. 550 01:04:45,220 --> 01:04:47,770 Now, what you're looking at here is a plate mark, 551 01:04:48,070 --> 01:04:54,820 and what the apprentice engraver has done is decide to put some hatching in the first 'o' of London. 552 01:04:54,820 --> 01:04:59,260 To give you an idea, the size of the 'o' is about 1.5mm. 553 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:06,880 So he's working at a sort of very minute scale in a very controlled way, using some form of magnification. 554 01:05:09,630 --> 01:05:14,790 There's also this. This is a short shafted, heavily fletched arrow. 555 01:05:15,890 --> 01:05:20,360 Was made with a type of burin called a scorper that has a flat end. 556 01:05:20,900 --> 01:05:25,100 It's 18mm long, so while you can see it with the naked eye, 557 01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:29,150 it's very difficult to see much of the details. 558 01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:33,170 Why is that important for Blake? Well Blake loved an arrow. 559 01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:38,540 He loved more than arrows. In his pictorial work as well as his poetic work, 560 01:05:38,780 --> 01:05:44,420 arrows feature prominently as a motif. Indeed, it's a motif that sort of reappears again and again. 561 01:05:44,750 --> 01:05:47,809 This is from Blake's illustrations to Milton's Paradise Lost. 562 01:05:47,810 --> 01:05:51,380 This is Satan meeting his son, otherwise known as death. 563 01:05:51,710 --> 01:05:54,050 Armed both with arrows. 564 01:05:54,590 --> 01:06:01,970 This is another illustration from Blake's Paradise Lost, where you have the son with his seven arrows defeating the rebel angels. 565 01:06:02,300 --> 01:06:11,630 Sending them all to the fiery lake. In his Night Thoughts, we have the reappearance of the sun with his bow pulling arrows out of quivers, 566 01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:18,710 and then death appears as well in the same set of illustrations, holding a short shafted, heavily fletched arrow. 567 01:06:18,860 --> 01:06:28,339 Blake also engraved 43 of these illustrations, so he did 537 watercolours illustrating Young's poem, 568 01:06:28,340 --> 01:06:35,390 of which then he engraved 43 that were published in a doomed attempt to enter into the large illustrated book market. 569 01:06:35,660 --> 01:06:35,840 570 01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:42,590 Sadly, the market fell through because Britain decided to go to war with Napoleon. Actually the other way around, Napoleon declared war on Britain. 571 01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:49,630 And then it his poetry. There are too many examples to name, but I'm going to give you the most famous. 572 01:06:50,180 --> 01:06:54,879 This is the preface to Milton, the hymn now known as Jerusalem, where we have the lines: 573 01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:59,620 'Bring me my bow of burning gold. Bring me my arrows of desire.' 574 01:07:00,010 --> 01:07:09,280 So if we're looking at a work by Blake here, this could be the first instance of Blake using this motif around the age of 15, 575 01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:14,920 a motif that reappears both textually and visually throughout the rest of his life. 576 01:07:15,490 --> 01:07:22,180 The other motif we found on this plate was almost impossible to see, largely because 577 01:07:23,300 --> 01:07:31,720 the existence of what's called repoussage. Repoussage is a way that an engraver uses to correct mistakes or to amend a plate. 578 01:07:31,740 --> 01:07:38,660 So if something needs amending, the copper plate is flipped over and they take a small ball point hammer and knock out the mistake. 579 01:07:39,630 --> 01:07:48,050 So what we have here is a tiny face. Engraved, incised, into the back of the plate underneath the repoussage. 580 01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:55,220 There we go. Now this is, the scale again is minute. 581 01:07:55,430 --> 01:07:59,030 This is, from top to bottom, about 18mm. 582 01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:06,410 What the engraver has done, he's hatched the eyes to give a sort of expressive character. 583 01:08:06,710 --> 01:08:12,260 And it's a face. But it's a face that I sort of, I think is a doodle, 584 01:08:13,260 --> 01:08:18,150 rather than a fully formed face. In other words, during the apprentice's long day 585 01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:23,310 where he's doing these very repetitive actions of making these linear marks. 586 01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:27,720 There are times that clearly he needs to entertain himself. 587 01:08:28,050 --> 01:08:31,860 So he flips over the plates and he starts doodling. 588 01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:41,710 In other words, this is personal and private art that for the last 250 years, we haven't been able to access. 589 01:08:41,860 --> 01:08:45,670 The Selene technology now makes it possible to see this face 590 01:08:47,470 --> 01:08:51,879 made by an apprentice 250 years ago. If this is Blake, 591 01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:57,580 what you're looking at now is Blake's first portrait, albeit a crude portrait, but Blake's first portrait. 592 01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:05,370 Thank you very much. Wonderful. 593 01:09:05,370 --> 01:09:11,519 Thank you so much. Thank you to all our speakers also for running so beautifully to time. 594 01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:15,180 So we have around ten minutes 10-15 minutes for a Q&A. 595 01:09:15,750 --> 01:09:19,470 We have Niki at the back with a microphone so I can see one hand up here already. 596 01:09:19,480 --> 01:09:23,400 Can I invite Angelamaria and Mark, to come up and sit with John for some questions? 597 01:09:27,710 --> 01:09:31,970 Hi. Two quick questions for Adam, actually. 598 01:09:32,540 --> 01:09:42,920 Can the software behind Selene be reverse engineered take a digital flat image and 599 01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:49,210 bring out the implied three dimensionals actually within the image. 600 01:09:52,650 --> 01:09:57,090 I can take this Adam if you like. Yes, it does already. 601 01:09:57,120 --> 01:10:05,070 So what you're doing is you're capturing both a colour image without texture at all, and also the 3D without the colour. 602 01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:09,180 So it does both things automatically at the same time. 603 01:10:09,690 --> 01:10:15,600 And can that be printed? Yes, absolutely. Possibly a question for both of you. 604 01:10:15,930 --> 01:10:23,759 Um, in the Tutankhamun exhibition, currently on in Cairo, do some of Adam's Factum Arte 605 01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:27,560 works actually on show? 606 01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:38,970 607 01:10:55,380 --> 01:11:03,840 Proposal is to do a show in Gem that will look at the Hall of Beauties in its current condition from the tomb of Seti I, 608 01:11:04,260 --> 01:11:10,950 and then explain why it looks like that and then take you out through the recoloured 609 01:11:11,250 --> 01:11:16,830 Hall of Beauties that we made for the exhibition in Basel in 2017. 610 01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:21,900 So there's a lot of information on Factum Foundation's website about that. 611 01:11:25,350 --> 01:11:33,770 And that's, more questions 612 01:11:37,830 --> 01:11:50,170 I was just picking up on you,very nice, phrase, using a dry point to think discreetly. 613 01:11:50,480 --> 01:11:53,110 Yeah, which I really like, that's really helpful, that's very good. 614 01:11:53,590 --> 01:12:02,530 Um, and I was also thinking about how the use of raking light is something that links everything and all of the, 615 01:12:02,830 --> 01:12:09,340 examples that we've seen so far back from the, the eighth century manuscripts all the way through to, to to your thing. 616 01:12:09,670 --> 01:12:17,800 and I was wondering if it's, it's I was thinking more about the raking light and because we're thinking a lot about that in terms of how, 617 01:12:17,950 --> 01:12:20,650 monuments, things would have been envisaged in, 618 01:12:20,770 --> 01:12:28,809 in churches or tombs with flickering light and how that would have acted as a real,dynamic force to the way, 619 01:12:28,810 --> 01:12:35,080 the things on the wall were, were seen to move as the light moved around them and people moved with, with the lighting. 620 01:12:35,410 --> 01:12:42,910 But I was also wondering if there's any sense in which perhaps of the paper rather than, the membrane, but then perhaps with that to whether, 621 01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:54,150 you could use transmitted light so light from behind to,make these tiny, indentations more visible. 622 01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:58,390 Is it just the raking light, or could we have light behind? I don't know if they've done any experiments with that. 623 01:12:58,460 --> 01:13:03,900 No, no, not the to pick up the to be engraved lines is how I like calling them. 624 01:13:03,910 --> 01:13:10,750 yes, you need rake, you need Selene and John if you want to get the best results. 625 01:13:10,750 --> 01:13:14,470 But,in in the absence of John, you need 626 01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:20,340 dark, you need the dark. You know, we think that the truth is in the light, 627 01:13:20,380 --> 01:13:25,400 the truth is in the dark. You need a source of raking 628 01:13:25,420 --> 01:13:32,950 light, a good torch. and these, you know, if you don't have Selene these marks, not everything, 629 01:13:32,950 --> 01:13:39,670 so, for example, one of the real discoveries, I think, is to anatomical, 630 01:13:40,060 --> 01:13:46,240 notations that we've seen and in a way, we could pick them up, you know, pick them in any way. 631 01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:53,820 but the transmitted light, that is something different, it just highlights the, in the structure of the paper, I see, 632 01:13:53,890 --> 01:14:02,710 watermarks and, the laid lines and and so on, but, um, but even transmitted light, if you're drawing these lines. 633 01:14:02,740 --> 01:14:07,110 this is where Selene comes, very useful because, 634 01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:13,309 you you can pick up all these elements with raking light if the drawing has, you know, drawn down on something else. 635 01:14:13,310 --> 01:14:16,990 so, but for blind, blind side of dry point, 636 01:14:16,990 --> 01:14:23,060 yes, absolutely, raking light. I thought this print was quite nice. 637 01:14:23,070 --> 01:14:27,970 I hadn't seen this before, so this is Bandinelli. This is, yes, this is a design of Bandinelli. 638 01:14:28,410 --> 01:14:35,010 And we see some some work happening here with a light at a low angle and a sort of flickering light, in the dark. 639 01:14:35,010 --> 01:14:41,520 Yeah, there's no window here. So they're in the dark and they are using um, yes, a candle light and, and. 640 01:14:42,180 --> 01:14:49,800 yeah, so I think when you, when you see an original with which has been, um, annotated with blind styluses, 641 01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:54,000 you don't really get a sense of how difficult it is to see these markings. 642 01:14:54,450 --> 01:14:57,240 obviously with the recordings that we've made, they're very, very visible. 643 01:14:57,750 --> 01:15:03,870 but you wonder how the, the makers of, of this artwork and these manuscripts were able to be guided by them. 644 01:15:03,870 --> 01:15:12,540 And I think this is the this is the key, um, that they were working from, from a low light, which perhaps it was, was moving as well. 645 01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:29,640 I shouldn't ask a question, but I'm going to...Mark. 646 01:15:30,090 --> 01:15:34,680 When they were doing the, copperplate, etchings and stuff. 647 01:15:34,710 --> 01:15:39,360 Would that have been a similar light format? Would they've been doing it under candlelight or what? 648 01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:46,139 They've been working on the daylight because you said about how tiny the actual markings were. 649 01:15:46,140 --> 01:15:53,570 So. Yeah. I suppose the traditional, literature, on engraving in the 18th century was daylight. 650 01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:58,700 Natural light and engraving desk were situated next to large windows. 651 01:15:58,850 --> 01:16:04,280 when Blake moved to the south coast, the only time he left London was for a three year period, 652 01:16:04,430 --> 01:16:10,100 in 1800, where he lived in a ship's cottage made of ship's timbers. 653 01:16:10,100 --> 01:16:14,990 And his engraving studio was on the bottom floor next to a large window. 654 01:16:15,470 --> 01:16:24,830 So the idea was that he could engrave using natural light. Having said that, um, there is there is some evidence that again, 655 01:16:24,830 --> 01:16:29,450 this is slightly circumstantial evidence that Blake would engrave after his drawings 656 01:16:29,450 --> 01:16:34,040 and the phrase used in this documentary evidence is especially in winter. 657 01:16:34,940 --> 01:16:40,520 So the suggestion here is he, wouldn't use artificial light, candle lights to engrave as well. 658 01:16:46,220 --> 01:16:50,360 One more question, if anyone's brave enough to ask? 659 01:16:51,140 --> 01:17:02,940 Yes, do. John, this might be a bit leftfield. 660 01:17:03,060 --> 01:17:06,720 Has this technology got a forensic application? 661 01:17:08,580 --> 01:17:16,709 Yes, it probably does. I mean, I'll go into some forensic analysis, which is which has happened on more of a volumetric recording, 662 01:17:16,710 --> 01:17:20,310 which was recorded using a different principle called photogrammetry. 663 01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:26,790 So we'll focus on that in the next session. Um, but I'm sure there are absolutely applications. 664 01:17:27,090 --> 01:17:32,760 I mean, we know that, for instance, the pressure of a pen through a page can be transferred to a page underneath. 665 01:17:33,180 --> 01:17:38,190 I've recorded those markings before. So yes, there's all manner of different applications. 666 01:17:38,550 --> 01:17:41,830 Thanks. Thank you. 667 01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:46,700 I think we'll leave the session here. Um, we have a half hour break. 668 01:17:47,030 --> 01:17:54,830 in Blackwell Hall. There's refreshments available in the cordoned off area, and then we'll be back to start again around sort of quater past three. 669 01:17:55,370 --> 01:17:59,449 so I hope we'll see you all back here for more amazingness after the break. 670 01:17:59,450 --> 01:18:10,529 But for now, can you join me in thanking all of our wonderful speakers. 671 01:18:10,530 --> 01:18:13,830 So thank you everyone for coming back after coffee. 672 01:18:14,430 --> 01:18:23,440 and now we're going into the second session, which will last until about sort of 4:20, when we'll have time for a Q&A. 673 01:18:23,460 --> 01:18:26,790 So we've got three more talks, in this second session. 674 01:18:26,790 --> 01:18:32,400 And to begin with, I will invite John back,to tell us more about findings in phase two. 675 01:18:34,540 --> 01:18:41,380 Thank you Judith. In the first session, I shared a selection of recordings made using a principle called photometric stereo. 676 01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:49,900 The Selene recording system, which uses this principle, is a perfect fit for recording the surface of library material, it being mostly flat. 677 01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:55,660 Photometric stereo has numerous advantages over other 3D recording techniques. 678 01:18:55,990 --> 01:19:01,150 It's incredibly fast and highly efficient, allowing us to record at very high resolutions, 679 01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:05,740 but it's only capable of recording the surface of our collections, not the volume. 680 01:19:06,580 --> 01:19:11,800 In order to record the volume, it's necessary to use a different technique, which I'll describe in this session. 681 01:19:18,460 --> 01:19:22,090 What are the most important objectives for ARCHiOx has been to create recordings which 682 01:19:22,090 --> 01:19:27,760 assist in preserving our collections by embracing both these 3D recording techniques. 683 01:19:27,950 --> 01:19:33,580 We've been able to record everything from a tiny fossilised wasp to an entire historic building. 684 01:19:36,210 --> 01:19:41,290 At the previous ARCHiOx conference, I shared this Selene recording of a Japanese scroll, 685 01:19:41,620 --> 01:19:48,670 which demonstrated how a photometric stereo recording can highlight conservation concerns such as insect damage, 686 01:19:48,970 --> 01:19:51,700 historic repairs, and flaking pigment. 687 01:19:54,690 --> 01:20:01,920 This conventional image of a painting from our South Asian manuscripts may not appear to show features of concern to a conservator. 688 01:20:03,480 --> 01:20:07,620 But the render of the surface reveals areas of creasing and pigment loss. 689 01:20:08,220 --> 01:20:12,660 This demonstrates how photometric stereo renders can assist in condition mapping. 690 01:20:15,470 --> 01:20:24,500 Making recordings of extremely fragile originals like this unfired clay letter seal from the 2nd century B.C. has ensured that they are protected. 691 01:20:25,630 --> 01:20:27,790 Showing a facsimile in place of the original, 692 01:20:27,940 --> 01:20:34,630 has allowed students to have a hands-on experience without the need to remove the original seal from its box. 693 01:20:36,570 --> 01:20:41,910 And not only do we make a facsimile of the seal, but also the lost matrix, which was used to make it. 694 01:20:42,570 --> 01:20:48,450 The designs from seven seals from the same collection were recorded using the Selene and combined. 695 01:20:50,820 --> 01:20:57,000 A 3D print of the surface was then made onto a flexible material, which was wrapped around a cylindrical core. 696 01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:05,670 The facsimile can be used, as the original would have been, leaving an impression of the emblem of a Persian Prince named Arshama. 697 01:21:09,180 --> 01:21:17,130 Photographing seals can be challenging. Capturing a wax seal, like the 17th century example, would typically involve using a single raked light. 698 01:21:17,790 --> 01:21:20,700 While this technique may reveal the design successfully, 699 01:21:20,970 --> 01:21:27,030 it’s possible that the image may suffer from excessive contrast and un-even illumination across the surface.​ 700 01:21:27,870 --> 01:21:31,440 These problems can be mitigated by making a photometric stereo recording. 701 01:21:31,830 --> 01:21:37,200 Which has the additional benefit of allowing the end-user to relight the recording from any direction. 702 01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:41,510 As you can see, it's possible to change the viewing position. 703 01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:48,950 However, as the recording was made from a single position above the seal, we cannot turn the seal over and view the other side.​ 704 01:21:51,780 --> 01:21:56,520 In this example, the 3D recording has been made using a technique called photogrammetry. 705 01:21:57,690 --> 01:22:04,950 While Selene acquires 3D data through capturing images illuminated from different positions and with the camera in a static position. 706 01:22:05,430 --> 01:22:08,340 Photogrammetry is a technique which works in the opposite way. 707 01:22:08,940 --> 01:22:15,270 A photogrammetry recording is made by photographing the object from multiple angles under even illumination, 708 01:22:15,540 --> 01:22:23,430 and combining the images into a three-dimensional model. In this example, the seal was photographed from 200 positions. 709 01:22:24,480 --> 01:22:28,350 This 13th century seal features two portraits of Henry III. 710 01:22:28,740 --> 01:22:32,280 The charter to which it was attached is a Confirmation of Magna Carta 711 01:22:35,230 --> 01:22:39,640 Here we can see the skeleton of the model, a mesh containing half a million triangles. 712 01:22:40,390 --> 01:22:45,280 Image files encoding colour, shadow and texture are then projected onto the mesh. 713 01:22:47,860 --> 01:22:50,020 To create a photogrammetry recordings 714 01:22:50,290 --> 01:22:58,060 ARCHiOx has used the PalaeoPi, a programmable turntable designed by Richard Allen, which synchronises rotation and capture. 715 01:22:59,170 --> 01:23:05,050 This is a highly efficient and relatively inexpensive solution for the photogrammetry of small originals,​ 716 01:23:05,290 --> 01:23:08,140 like this 17th century embroidered Book of Psalms. 717 01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:19,590 Recordings like this one have been published online and can be explored in the browser on a desktop, laptop, tablet, or even a smartphone. 718 01:23:19,830 --> 01:23:25,260 We can rotate, we can zoom in, pan, relight the model as if holding the book in our hands. 719 01:23:29,830 --> 01:23:39,130 There are currently 76 photo parametric models available, but available to view online, which showcase some of the most beautiful book bindings. 720 01:23:39,940 --> 01:23:46,660 Here we have another 17th century embroidered book featuring a portrait of Charles II and his wife Catherine. 721 01:23:52,450 --> 01:23:56,920 But photometric recordings take a lot of time to make, sometimes several hours. 722 01:23:57,310 --> 01:24:02,620 They also produce large amounts of data in order to publish a photogrammetry model online. 723 01:24:02,770 --> 01:24:06,640 It's necessary to diminish the resolution and complexity of the recording. 724 01:24:07,390 --> 01:24:12,490 It's therefore very difficult to examine a small detail with as much clarity as you might like, 725 01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:17,200 such as the tiny peacock perched on top of the oval from this binding. 726 01:24:21,810 --> 01:24:24,209 Creating a high resolution recording of a detail 727 01:24:24,210 --> 01:24:31,110 using the Selene takes just a few seconds, with the peacock recorded at over 4 million pixels per square inch 728 01:24:31,410 --> 01:24:42,550 we can now examine each individual thread. As we've seen, both 3D recording methods have their own limitations and advantages. 729 01:24:43,330 --> 01:24:50,620 In this example, a photogrammetry model is useful as it allows us to see each face of this function or scientific binding. 730 01:24:51,130 --> 01:24:54,460 A French book dating from 1678. 731 01:24:58,270 --> 01:25:06,640 A note written by bookseller E.P. Goldschmidt, states that this volume is a rare and extraordinary book printed at a small town in Normandy, 732 01:25:06,850 --> 01:25:14,860 preserved in its original binding, which in fact comprises astronomical instruments without which no copy can be said to be complete. 733 01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:24,680 Before being presented to the Bodleian, and in 1978 this book belonged to the Broxbourne Library, compiled by book collector Albert Ehrman. 734 01:25:25,430 --> 01:25:31,250 Ehrman had a particular interest in bookbinding and named his library after his hometown in Hertfordshire. 735 01:25:33,790 --> 01:25:37,599 The Broxbourne Collection comprises some of the most beautiful book-bindings in the Bodleian's 736 01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:41,649 collections; here we have a tiny Portuguese book bound 737 01:25:41,650 --> 01:25:47,410 in the early 19th century, the gold-tooled Morocco case feature the Arms of Portugal, 738 01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:54,130 and while many of the book bindings which have been recorded for the project were chosen due to their aesthetic quality 739 01:25:54,520 --> 01:26:05,070 the next small volume is an exception. This pocket sized book was recorded instead because of the intriguing story surrounding its provenance. 740 01:26:05,970 --> 01:26:15,570 It was presented to the Bodleian in 1893, and catalogued by librarian E.W.B. Nicholson, as being found in Shelley's hand at his death. 741 01:26:16,740 --> 01:26:22,020 The volume was displayed with the caption ‘Shelley’s Sophocles which he had with him when drowned. 742 01:26:22,260 --> 01:26:25,590 Presented to the Bodleian Library, by Jane, Lady Shelley. 743 01:26:25,950 --> 01:26:29,670 the end edge is supposed to show the mark of Shelley’s thumb’.​ 744 01:26:32,650 --> 01:26:38,560 Whether or not this story is true, there is good evidence to support the claim that this volume belonged to Percy Shelley. 745 01:26:39,370 --> 01:26:45,970 The Bodleian holds a matching pocket-sized edition of Aeschylus containing annotations in Shelley’s hand. 746 01:26:48,670 --> 01:26:55,450 Had the Sophocles volume not been discovered with Shelley’s body, perhaps it could have been among the volumes salvaged from his boat, the Ariel. 747 01:26:56,470 --> 01:27:03,790 What is undeniable is the presence of a thumb-sized indentation on the upper edge of this small, water-damaged book. 748 01:27:07,300 --> 01:27:15,310 In contrast, here we have one of the Bodleian's finest bindings an early 12th centaury Byzantine New Testament, bound in silver and ivory. 749 01:27:16,370 --> 01:27:23,720 Reproducing the reflective nature of metallic surfaces is challenging in both conventional photography and in photogrammetry. 750 01:27:24,980 --> 01:27:30,050 By selectively masking only the silver parts of the model and applying a metalness mask, 751 01:27:30,290 --> 01:27:36,080 my colleague, Dylan Schirmacher, has produced a very convincing 3D model of the original. 752 01:27:40,070 --> 01:27:43,010 And it's not just bindings that have been captured using photogrammetry. 753 01:27:43,550 --> 01:27:49,610 We've also recorded objects like this celestial globe, which was made by John Senex in 1728. ​ 754 01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:55,070 Senex was a prominent cartographer, astrologer and geographer to Queen Ann. 755 01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:59,000 Here Senex has mapped the stars according to the zodiac. 756 01:28:02,010 --> 01:28:05,730 Photogrammetry has also been used to assist in trying to solve a mystery. 757 01:28:06,270 --> 01:28:11,670 On the left we see a portrait bust of James Gibbs, the Architect of the Radcliffe Camera. 758 01:28:14,140 --> 01:28:18,580 The bust is a little tricky to reach, being located in the mezzanine of the upper reading room, 759 01:28:20,660 --> 01:28:25,610 from where it has been positioned, Gibbs has a wonderful view over the building which he designed. 760 01:28:28,270 --> 01:28:37,570 The regions of the bust, which were accessible, were photographed 300 times, and the images aligned to create a 3D model of over 5 million polygons. 761 01:28:40,170 --> 01:28:46,260 The request for the recording was made by the Bodleian’s former Exhibitions and Loans Conservator, Dana Josephson.​ 762 01:28:50,010 --> 01:28:55,920 And the reason for making this recording is not because there is any doubt about who the bust depicts, or who sculpted it. 763 01:28:57,740 --> 01:29:04,310 We know this to be the work of John Rysbrack. In fact, this is one of a pair of busts commissioned in 1726. ​ 764 01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:10,130 The other bust, showing Gibbs in contemporary dress and a wig, is in the Victoria and Albert Museum. 765 01:29:13,750 --> 01:29:18,250 It's the identity of the sitter from this bust which is open to question. 766 01:29:19,150 --> 01:29:25,060 Now it also shares a home in the Radcliffe Camera. It is situated to the right of the doorway leading to the upper reading room. 767 01:29:27,700 --> 01:29:33,070 And despite bearing an inscription stating that the bust depicts Gibbs if it were carved from life. 768 01:29:34,470 --> 01:29:42,390 This would make it a very early specimen of a Greek Revival herm bust, which did not become popular in England until the 19th century. 769 01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:50,120 For this reason, and given that we don't know who sculpted it, we cannot be sure that this is in fact, Gibbs. 770 01:29:52,290 --> 01:30:00,690 What we do know is that the bust came to the library in 1927 and may once have been owned by the writer and art-historian Horace Walpole. 771 01:30:04,470 --> 01:30:08,430 Earlier this year, Dana Josephson commissioned Professor Caroline Wilkinson, 772 01:30:08,610 --> 01:30:15,840 Director of the Forensic Research Institute at Liverpool John Moores University to analyse the recordings of both busts.​ 773 01:30:16,990 --> 01:30:18,880 Though the full report has yet to be received, 774 01:30:19,150 --> 01:30:26,800 Professor Wilkinson's summary suggests that the number of differences between the faces cannot be explained by the difference in ages depicted. 775 01:30:27,730 --> 01:30:34,420 She concluded that there was little evidence to support the assertion that the two pack, two busts depicts the same person. 776 01:30:37,750 --> 01:30:44,380 Not too far away in the Bodleian’s Old Schools Quad we have a statue which is often mistaken by tourists to be William Shakespeare.​ 777 01:30:45,010 --> 01:30:49,840 In fact, it depicts William Herbert, the 16th and 17th century Earl of Pembroke. 778 01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:53,920 The statue originally stood in the outer court of Wilton House. 779 01:30:55,490 --> 01:31:03,200 This recording is a work in progress, and the model we see here was made by photographing the statue from 1200 different positions. 780 01:31:04,140 --> 01:31:09,750 But this is a comparatively modest effort compared to another recording, which was made last month. 781 01:31:11,900 --> 01:31:18,950 I'd been asked by colleagues to make a high resolution photograph of the entire ceiling of this room, the 15th century Divinity School. 782 01:31:20,030 --> 01:31:27,860 Given that the ceiling is at its highest point over 8 meters tall, another objective was to create a physical facsimile of a few of the bosses, 783 01:31:28,070 --> 01:31:32,660 so that visitors could have the opportunity to see these incredible carvings up-close.​ 784 01:31:33,470 --> 01:31:38,420 Though ambitious, Adam Lowe suggested that the whole ceiling should be recorded in 3D.​ 785 01:31:41,670 --> 01:31:47,100 Given the scale and complexity of the challenge, the recording was made by colleagues from the Factum Foundation. 786 01:31:47,790 --> 01:31:54,270 Cue photogrammetry experts, Imran Kahn, who photographed the ceiling from 16,000 positions at ground level. 787 01:31:56,500 --> 01:32:03,940 And Otto Lowe, who first recorded the entire room using LiDAR and then captured three bosses from the top of a tall tower. 788 01:32:05,750 --> 01:32:11,120 And I couldn't resist climbing the tower myself. Being able to get up-close to the carvings was a great privilege. 789 01:32:11,450 --> 01:32:16,730 From a height of eight meters, it's possible to see some of the carvings in a way which would be impossible from the ground. 790 01:32:17,180 --> 01:32:22,610 Like this cleric who appears to have been writing the same page for the last 540 years. 791 01:32:25,450 --> 01:32:29,230 From this perspective, we can also appreciate how delicate the bosses are. 792 01:32:29,410 --> 01:32:37,750 Some are almost completely hollow in structure. My colleagues at the Factum Foundation are continuing to work on this recording, 793 01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:42,470 with the final aim to be able to navigate the model in a virtual reality presentation. 794 01:32:43,730 --> 01:32:48,740 This initial preview gives us a sense of how the final and even higher definition recording would appear. 795 01:32:49,850 --> 01:32:51,840 In addition to the 3D presentation, 796 01:32:51,890 --> 01:32:59,090 an enormously high-resolution orthographic view has also been extracted from the photogrammetry and can be viewed online. 797 01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:07,210 Using this image, we can zoom into every detail of the ceiling at a resolution of 1000 pixels per square inch. 798 01:33:07,730 --> 01:33:12,640 And this is an incredible resource for the research of the 455 ceiling bosses. 799 01:33:13,510 --> 01:33:15,100 Each one appears to be unique. 800 01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:22,510 The extremely detailed elements, which can't be studied from the ground, can now be seen with clarity. From one of the bosses, 801 01:33:22,690 --> 01:33:26,110 it's even possible to count the feathers on the wings of the angels. 802 01:33:29,550 --> 01:33:32,460 Here we can see a boss featuring an Eagle and Child motif. 803 01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:39,030 And as we move past another showing a Tudor rose, we finally reach a very beautifully carved Green Man. 804 01:33:39,390 --> 01:33:43,200 One of the bosses which has been made into a physical facsimile. 805 01:33:46,820 --> 01:33:47,510 But to conclude, 806 01:33:47,510 --> 01:33:54,960 let's move from a recording of something enormous to a recording of something which is just a few millimetres in length. From this colour image. 807 01:33:55,010 --> 01:34:02,310 it's hard to make out what we're looking at. But from the render we can see the outline of a tiny fossilised wasp. 808 01:34:02,850 --> 01:34:10,290 And this is just one of dozens of specimens which were recorded at the Oxford University Museum of Natural History earlier this year. 809 01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:17,080 In order to make these recordings, a brand new portable version of the Selene was used. 810 01:34:19,330 --> 01:34:24,160 Taking just a few minutes to set up, recordings were made alongside curators and students. 811 01:34:26,110 --> 01:34:30,340 Through analysing the initial recordings together and understanding what they can reveal. 812 01:34:30,730 --> 01:34:36,970 They were able to support me in selecting specimens which would benefit from being recorded in this exciting new way. 813 01:34:39,900 --> 01:34:44,490 These are among the first recordings made with the Selene of objects from the natural world. 814 01:34:46,780 --> 01:34:48,340 And the results are very exciting. 815 01:34:51,410 --> 01:34:57,410 Fossils make incredible candidates for photometric stereo recording, and by being creative with the renders which we make. 816 01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:03,520 We can create representations which are both informative and also beautiful. 817 01:35:06,470 --> 01:35:10,670 This collection of fossilised leaves appear to have a flat, uniform surface. 818 01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:16,040 But the render allows us to see the topography as it truly is. 819 01:35:16,250 --> 01:35:26,150 Even the delicate veins are visible. Researchers at the museum were excited by the speed with which the recordings could be made and processed. 820 01:35:28,090 --> 01:35:38,860 And by the ways in which they could be analysed. Being able to study the specimens in this way may assist in identifying a given species. 821 01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:45,550 The renders can be easily shared, allowing for remote consultation with experts from other institutions. 822 01:35:49,740 --> 01:35:53,370 And as well as recording specimens from the Museums’ Earth collections, 823 01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:57,630 examples from their Life collections are equally fascinating and beautiful.​ 824 01:36:00,460 --> 01:36:11,100 Here is a render which shows the tiny scales of a mantis. This composite render shows the surface of an unidentified snake skin. 825 01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:16,260 It was a specimen collected by the explorer and naturalist William John Burchell. 826 01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:24,700 Burchell described and collected over 63,000 specimens, most of which he gave to the British Museum, 827 01:36:25,090 --> 01:36:28,180 but several others were donated to Oxford’s Natural History Museum. 828 01:36:28,660 --> 01:36:32,230 These include a tortoise which he collected in 1814.​ 829 01:36:35,430 --> 01:36:43,110 Here we have a colour recording of a Ulysses butterfly. And here's the render of the 3D surface. 830 01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:54,460 As is the case when recording dark regions of an oil painting, the surface details can be revealed very effectively in a 3D render. 831 01:36:55,180 --> 01:36:58,360 We can see how the scales on the left side of the lower wing, 832 01:37:00,130 --> 01:37:09,360 suddenly become visible. At the beginning of this presentation, I shared a high resolution recording of a macaw’s feather. 833 01:37:10,020 --> 01:37:13,230 In this example, we see a small African bird's wing. 834 01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:20,560 Every vane of this extremely delicate specimen can be seen in this atlas render. 835 01:37:23,970 --> 01:37:26,000 And this is the final recording I'd like to share. 836 01:37:26,270 --> 01:37:33,410 What we're looking at is a fragment from the Gibeon meteorite, which was collected in Namibia and fell to Earth in prehistoric times. 837 01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:39,299 Fine lines which have been recorded so successfully with the Selene, show 838 01:37:39,300 --> 01:37:47,010 the fragment's crystal composition. The patterns are the result of the meteorites having been slowly cooled from a molten state. 839 01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:51,660 This would have occurred in the vacuum of space when the solar system was first formed. 840 01:37:53,930 --> 01:37:56,240 Our collections are truly out of this world. 841 01:37:56,660 --> 01:38:02,450 Recording them as best as technology allows ensures that preservation and helps us to understand them more fully. 842 01:38:03,140 --> 01:38:07,490 These have been the aims of ARCHiOx, and will continue to use and develop this technology, 843 01:38:07,730 --> 01:38:13,250 so that both Oxford University and other institutions can benefit from their enormous potential. 844 01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:21,030 If you'd like to find out more about ARCHiOx, you'll find several articles on the Bodleian blog, which is called The Conveyor. 845 01:38:22,890 --> 01:38:28,530 I'd like to give special thanks to Dylan Schirmacher, who's my colleague who's worked on ARCHiOx with me, 846 01:38:29,100 --> 01:38:33,960 Elaine Anstee and Jorge Cano, who developed the Selene. 847 01:38:34,290 --> 01:38:45,349 Thank you very much. It's wonderful. 848 01:38:45,350 --> 01:38:50,149 John, thank you very much. So we've heard a lot about the work that's been happening at the Bodleian, 849 01:38:50,150 --> 01:38:56,120 and now we're going to move to the other half of the partnership to hear more about, um, work that's been ongoing in Factum. 850 01:38:56,420 --> 01:38:58,820 And welcome our next speaker, Carlos Bayod, 851 01:38:59,330 --> 01:39:06,230 who holds a PhD in art history and theory from Autonomous University of Madrid and a master's in architecture from Polytechnic University of Madrid. 852 01:39:06,830 --> 01:39:09,229 He is a project director at the Factom Foundation, 853 01:39:09,230 --> 01:39:13,969 and his work is dedicated to the development and application of digital technology to the conservation, 854 01:39:13,970 --> 01:39:18,650 study and dissemination of cultural heritage. With the Lucida 3D scanner, 855 01:39:18,980 --> 01:39:23,900 Carlos has recorded hundreds of artworks in the world's main museums, collections and archaeological sites. 856 01:39:24,350 --> 01:39:31,580 He's also a frequent speaker about facsimiles and museology, and has taught the Masters in Historic Preservation at Columbia University. 857 01:39:31,910 --> 01:39:36,290 So Carlos is going to talk us through some of the latest developments at Factum. 858 01:39:36,530 --> 01:39:39,910 Thanks Carlos. Thank you. Thank you Judith. 859 01:39:40,390 --> 01:39:41,140 Good afternoon. 860 01:39:43,090 --> 01:39:52,840 I would like to share today very quickly some examples of the type of work that we have been doing with the Selene scanner outside of Oxford. 861 01:39:53,350 --> 01:40:02,440 So at the same time as John was doing all these, beautiful recordings that have helped to, you know, bring these amazing discoveries, 862 01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:10,600 we have kept developing the system in order to adapt to the different requirements we have for, scanning, 863 01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:19,060 diverse range of artefacts, um, mostly from our base in Madrid, but also in museums all over the world. 864 01:40:19,570 --> 01:40:28,130 So here in the Bodleian, what happens is the Selene is fixed in the photography lab, and then objects come to be recorded. 865 01:40:28,570 --> 01:40:33,220 What we have been doing mostly is bringing the scanner to the institutions. 866 01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:41,080 So for example, when we were given the task of recording this important historic book in Madrid, 867 01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:46,750 in the Lázaro Galdiano museum, which is a book by Pacheco, Pacheco is the master, was the master of Velázquez. 868 01:40:48,570 --> 01:40:56,940 We just installed the Selene just for a couple days recording so we could capture as many pages as possible, both in colour and relief. 869 01:40:57,120 --> 01:41:04,170 We are talking about a historic book, not too different to Vasari's Lives of the Artists. 870 01:41:04,530 --> 01:41:14,760 Also, in this case, all the lives of Spanish artists, writers, play writers, etc. were portrayed that were drawn by Pacheco himself. 871 01:41:16,510 --> 01:41:22,270 Jorge Cano, has been developing and leading this work of creating the Selene, 872 01:41:22,270 --> 01:41:29,310 and also kept advancing both hardware and software in order to match new requirements and new challenges. 873 01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:36,610 So, for example, at the very beginning it was about controlling the scanner, literally writing lines of code. 874 01:41:37,570 --> 01:41:39,830 Probably at the beginning. This is what John had to do. 875 01:41:39,850 --> 01:41:47,410 Then over time, it's been about creating a proper user graphic user interface to make this operation more intuitively. 876 01:41:47,830 --> 01:41:52,880 So this is what we keep developing as we do the recordings. 877 01:41:52,900 --> 01:41:56,530 When we were working on this important book by Pacheco. 878 01:41:57,130 --> 01:42:01,770 Each page was unveiled in this manner. 879 01:42:01,780 --> 01:42:07,870 So as we have seen today, it's all about making accessible the materiality of books and other, 880 01:42:08,170 --> 01:42:13,780 artefacts through on screen visualisation, etc. but also, 881 01:42:13,780 --> 01:42:23,320 and I think it's important to highlight the Selene allows to obtain both colour and relief data that can be re materialised as facsimiles. As 882 01:42:24,340 --> 01:42:26,050 replicas that are physical, 883 01:42:26,620 --> 01:42:34,420 and this is what we did for creating a facsimile of this book that will facilitate researchers to have a more direct access without, 884 01:42:34,450 --> 01:42:38,110 putting in danger or in risk 885 01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:42,990 the original. This is especially important with objects like, for example, 886 01:42:42,990 --> 01:42:50,370 this series of important print blocks by Christophe Jagger in the um plant in the Plantin–Moretus Museum in Antwerp. 887 01:42:50,790 --> 01:42:54,740 Because this collection of printing blocks are actually toxic. 888 01:42:54,750 --> 01:43:02,489 So if you want to manipulate them, it's not possible to do it, let's say without proper, precaution measures including gloves, 889 01:43:02,490 --> 01:43:07,980 etc because of these specific treatment, they have to protect them from insects and so on. 890 01:43:08,610 --> 01:43:19,080 So in order to record this beautiful, originals, we have to develop what we can refer to as a portable version of the Selene. 891 01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:27,720 As you could see, the core of the system, which is the camera with four light units, can also be mounted on a tripod. 892 01:43:27,990 --> 01:43:37,260 And then with a bit more of work, it's possible to record smaller areas you know, more or less manual way. 893 01:43:45,450 --> 01:43:49,350 These type of recordings allow a new access to this printing blocks, as you can see. 894 01:43:50,010 --> 01:43:57,450 It would eventually allow a re materialisation of them or even new prints if necessary, if that was the desire by the museum. 895 01:43:58,140 --> 01:44:02,480 And then because we are talking about very dark elements 896 01:44:02,510 --> 01:44:10,370 it is only through this idea of removing the colour and allowing to see them, and actual bas reliefs or low relief objects, 897 01:44:10,610 --> 01:44:17,150 that we get to understand all their complexity, all these curly structures on the animal. 898 01:44:20,420 --> 01:44:28,100 This curly structures are somehow similar to what we found when we started working at De Lakenhal Museum in Leiden. 899 01:44:29,060 --> 01:44:33,590 This is a state of a series of sample books as Adam was showing us earlier. 900 01:44:34,040 --> 01:44:44,209 It's a collection of about 30 volumes from throughout the 18th century, and they contained a like an inventory of samples of fabrics 901 01:44:44,210 --> 01:44:54,020 so these like different types of cloth with different tints and for, because of the condition that they are in, 902 01:44:54,020 --> 01:45:01,910 it's very difficult, let's say, impossible for researchers to get to read what is written in this archival records. 903 01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:08,010 This is why we approach this work by combining two different recording methods. 904 01:45:08,030 --> 01:45:13,290 One, as you can see on the image, the actual portable Selene scanner, 905 01:45:13,310 --> 01:45:16,640 so we could get very close in to understanding the 906 01:45:17,680 --> 01:45:21,550 texture and surface qualities of this fabric samples. 907 01:45:22,120 --> 01:45:28,450 We can even get closer and eventually get a proper archive of these different surfaces, 908 01:45:29,350 --> 01:45:36,940 but also we understood the book as a volumetric object, almost like a sculpture that needed to be recorded with photogrammetry. 909 01:45:37,420 --> 01:45:46,060 So once we have recorded, let's say, a book open, in this particular page, we have this 3D model, 910 01:45:47,010 --> 01:45:51,420 and then we developed a method for virtually flatten these pages. 911 01:45:52,820 --> 01:46:02,510 Was having to do it on the original, it was possible to carry out a kind of virtual flattening so that the text would become readable, 912 01:46:03,460 --> 01:46:12,190 and then with a bit more, um, image processing, which would require more refinement, make some text really visible again by researchers. 913 01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:24,700 This idea of flattening volumetric objects and highlighting this double quality of both 3D and two and a half the qualities, 914 01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:31,390 is also something that we applied for recording this navigation globe, in this case in The Centraal Museum in Utrecht. 915 01:46:31,900 --> 01:46:37,870 Again, the combination of two technologies portable Selene recording, but also photogrammetry. 916 01:46:37,990 --> 01:46:42,910 So we are at the same time understanding this globe as a sphere, what it is, 917 01:46:43,540 --> 01:46:49,780 but also trying to get an even closer look to the skin of the object. 918 01:46:50,230 --> 01:46:55,690 So with the Selene scanner, we were focusing on certain details along the surface of this globe, 919 01:46:56,320 --> 01:47:04,210 and then we would combine those, , techniques, those types of information to layers together on the same file. 920 01:47:04,540 --> 01:47:13,170 The way we did it is, trying to imagine how this globe was built in the first time, in the first the stage. 921 01:47:13,180 --> 01:47:24,340 So basically a kind of unwrapping or unfolding of the sphere surface through digital means so that it could be extended as a flat area. 922 01:47:25,880 --> 01:47:31,190 And then it's possible also to map one layer of data onto the other. 923 01:47:31,790 --> 01:47:37,100 What we can see on the image right now is like the central area which contains even higher detail, 924 01:47:37,520 --> 01:47:41,750 is the Selene information on top of the photogrammetry information. 925 01:47:43,380 --> 01:47:53,040 All this multi-layer file, this kind of stack of layers of information is what we provide to the museums so it can assist them in the process of, 926 01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:56,990 conserving the original or any treatment, 927 01:47:57,000 --> 01:47:59,700 it's going to happen on this particular object. 928 01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:05,760 And eventually, the same way as we unwrapped the surface of the sphere, it will be possible to use the same method 929 01:48:06,060 --> 01:48:09,750 if we wanted to re materialise this object. That's a facsimile. 930 01:48:12,240 --> 01:48:17,770 So we have been bringing the Selene scanner as a portable version to key institutions 931 01:48:18,160 --> 01:48:23,500 that somehow were in need of unveiling the three dimensionality of their collections. 932 01:48:24,500 --> 01:48:29,630 The important collections of original plates by Goya at Calcografía Nacional in Madrid. 933 01:48:30,620 --> 01:48:37,909 It's a relevant project because it is only very recent that they managed to remove a coating that was, 934 01:48:37,910 --> 01:48:44,840 in a way, covering the original copper of these plates. It was a complex process that now, for the first time in many years, 935 01:48:44,840 --> 01:48:52,160 it is possible to go to this place and see the surface of the plates a closer to the way Goya made them. 936 01:48:53,270 --> 01:49:01,790 And thanks to the Selene scanner, it's possible to understand, exactly what's the information contained in them. 937 01:49:01,970 --> 01:49:08,000 Copper plates as shiny, as these one are probably some of the most challenging and difficult objects to photograph. 938 01:49:08,240 --> 01:49:12,950 You don't really get a proper image of what is represented in there 939 01:49:13,130 --> 01:49:21,740 and as John was showing earlier, the advantage of saline is to remove for one moment any call or information if you want, 940 01:49:21,740 --> 01:49:27,430 and then focus on the actual relief data. Like what these images are showing. 941 01:49:27,880 --> 01:49:34,460 So thanks to the Selene, it was great opportunity to be able to read this, 942 01:49:34,850 --> 01:49:43,990 plates eventually being able also to produce new additions, if that's, again, what the museum wanted. 943 01:49:44,950 --> 01:49:49,600 But also, we had a big challenge with objects like this once when we are talking about with metallic objects, 944 01:49:50,590 --> 01:49:59,140 there is always a bit of, um, excessive reflection that could affect the quality of the data from the Selene. 945 01:50:00,040 --> 01:50:05,200 And this is why we tried a new development, the new improvement in the system, 946 01:50:05,560 --> 01:50:11,890 which is creating a system of cross polarisation filters that could be adapted to the Selene scanner. 947 01:50:12,310 --> 01:50:20,770 We are talking about installing a special set of filters, both on the light units, on the flash units and on the lens on the objective, 948 01:50:21,310 --> 01:50:27,610 so that any excess of reflection can be balanced, can be somehow masked, let's say 949 01:50:27,820 --> 01:50:33,880 and then we would obtain more accurate results, not in the depiction of the texture, 950 01:50:34,120 --> 01:50:42,490 but especially in avoiding, um, an artificial recreation of fake shape. 951 01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:47,090 A few images to explain this improvement, 952 01:50:47,090 --> 01:50:57,550 so if we are recording a very flat metallic plate thanks to the cross polarisation filters, we are getting a very accurate and precise and 953 01:50:58,520 --> 01:51:05,780 the best correspondence between the data we obtain in digital and the actual shape of the plate. 954 01:51:06,710 --> 01:51:12,890 If we are not applying this system, of course polarising, we might get, let's say, 955 01:51:12,890 --> 01:51:18,230 fake data because of the reflections, because of this shiny material qualities, 956 01:51:18,230 --> 01:51:23,000 and maybe extract a shape that does not correspond to reality. 957 01:51:24,120 --> 01:51:29,820 So this is part of the ongoing development that we are carrying out in order to make 958 01:51:30,180 --> 01:51:36,390 the Selene capable of getting to record more and more diverse types of origins. 959 01:51:37,580 --> 01:51:47,810 Another way of presenting this same object without or with this accessories would provide an even better and even more accurate depiction of it. 960 01:51:49,470 --> 01:51:53,490 Once we developed this new improvement, it was possible, for example, 961 01:51:53,490 --> 01:52:00,899 to go to the Museum of Antiquities in Leiden and then record a series of highly reflective objects like this, 962 01:52:00,900 --> 01:52:05,520 series of originals from the Middle Eastern department, like this metallic shield, 963 01:52:06,090 --> 01:52:11,489 and then obtain information that it's accurate both in texture and in the shape, 964 01:52:11,490 --> 01:52:20,350 in the overall shape. Also, as part of this project, we have the opportunity of using the Selene for capturing a series of cylinders. 965 01:52:20,380 --> 01:52:22,870 Not too different to the ones that John was showing earlier. 966 01:52:23,140 --> 01:52:33,540 In this case, by rotating the cylinder in a few, um, few sections of angles so that we can complete the entire area, 967 01:52:33,550 --> 01:52:38,890 external area with the Selene, and then maybe make it as an 968 01:52:38,890 --> 01:52:43,840 educational tool, something that could be used for museums to have tactile versions of them, 969 01:52:44,200 --> 01:52:51,250 reproductions for, um, new engagement with the original without touching, um, the real object. 970 01:52:52,810 --> 01:52:58,330 So the Selene Circle is the name we have been given to this community. 971 01:52:58,450 --> 01:53:02,440 We are somehow nurturing with institutions all over the world. 972 01:53:03,400 --> 01:53:08,440 It's about creating a network of users of the Selene scanner. 973 01:53:09,100 --> 01:53:16,749 We have the opportunity of sharing with what started as a direct dialogue between Madrid and Oxford, 974 01:53:16,750 --> 01:53:22,059 between Factum and the Bodleian Library is now including new actors, 975 01:53:22,060 --> 01:53:27,490 such as Princeton University Library, that since the summer of 2023, 976 01:53:27,490 --> 01:53:31,840 they also own a Selene scanner that they are using it for recording their collection, 977 01:53:32,740 --> 01:53:40,890 and it's also very interesting to see how other institutions are applying their systems for their own means. 978 01:53:40,900 --> 01:53:47,500 So for instance, in the actual platform, the website or the digital platform of the Princeton University Library, 979 01:53:47,500 --> 01:53:53,739 they are presenting recordings like this, like these are the Joseph's screenshots from their platforms, 980 01:53:53,740 --> 01:54:04,330 and we can see, um, different layers that you can navigate both to highlight the colour on one hand and the 3D without the colour on the other, 981 01:54:04,630 --> 01:54:06,250 or the composite of both. 982 01:54:06,580 --> 01:54:14,920 So again, this is giving access to libraries to understand books and flat objects as three dimensional objects for the first time. 983 01:54:20,760 --> 01:54:25,830 We are also very proud of having British Museum as one of our partners in this Selene circle. 984 01:54:25,890 --> 01:54:32,700 So also since last summer we were installing the Selene scanner and 985 01:54:33,180 --> 01:54:38,130 making it available for them to embark in a very challenging project of recording, 986 01:54:38,610 --> 01:54:43,290 hundreds of thousands of clay tablets with cuneiform texts on them. 987 01:54:44,490 --> 01:54:51,360 In addition to installing the system, we are, of course, providing the training, the necessary technical support and 988 01:54:51,570 --> 01:55:00,600 let's say conceptual support that that's what we are trying to provide in this network of users so that every new requirement, 989 01:55:00,600 --> 01:55:07,320 any need or problem or new challenge that present in the process of recording their collections, 990 01:55:07,620 --> 01:55:12,150 we can help develop the necessary tools to make it more accessible. 991 01:55:13,020 --> 01:55:21,749 So this is a project that is in a way starting, and it's already required for us to go back and apply certain modifications to the hardware, 992 01:55:21,750 --> 01:55:29,730 to the structure of the settings, because, for example, they were telling us that they rather be working, standing instead of sitting on a desk, 993 01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:37,620 so things as simple as that might be the difference between a proper systematic recording or having it less useful. 994 01:55:37,620 --> 01:55:42,330 When we install a system like this in an institution, we want to make sure it's being used. 995 01:55:42,540 --> 01:55:46,560 We don't want it to be, you know under used for any reason. 996 01:55:48,990 --> 01:55:52,920 The Institute of Valencia de Don Juan is a unique institution in Madrid. 997 01:55:53,160 --> 01:56:03,510 It is a place that is actually not open to the public, but it's open for researchers who want to go and inspect the their incredible collection, 998 01:56:03,510 --> 01:56:11,100 mostly of medieval originals in Spain, including ceramics, for example, 999 01:56:11,640 --> 01:56:20,760 that for a period of about two months, we have a team working with their stuff for capturing as many objects as possible, 1000 01:56:20,790 --> 01:56:26,700 so that, again, researchers can access this information without having to get to the originals, 1001 01:56:27,330 --> 01:56:39,790 therefore making it possible to protect them better. Ceramics, textiles, etc are just some of the unique objects in this collection. 1002 01:56:39,830 --> 01:56:45,290 This will be this collaboration will stay for the next two weeks as well, 1003 01:56:45,590 --> 01:56:53,000 and we will be able to provide a proper overview of the different capabilities of this system for different objects, 1004 01:56:55,260 --> 01:57:00,680 and then as part of our work is the dissemination of the system. 1005 01:57:00,690 --> 01:57:10,740 We have been discussing the technology in different locations in the Getty Museum in Los Angeles, in Madrid, La Biblioteca Nacional. 1006 01:57:11,370 --> 01:57:18,510 John was with Jorge Cano presenting, for example, in the 2 and 3D photography conference in the Rijks museum in Amsterdam. 1007 01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:25,740 All these events are important to gather and to capture the interest and attention of potential users 1008 01:57:26,130 --> 01:57:35,070 and even more important to that is the workshops is the training initiatives that can be shaped around the Selene scanner. 1009 01:57:35,310 --> 01:57:40,350 So it is incredible to see how not only students but also young professionals, 1010 01:57:40,650 --> 01:57:48,139 technicians in church in charge of imaging in different institutions are engaged with 1011 01:57:48,140 --> 01:57:52,790 this system because it's allowing to see things that it was not possible before. 1012 01:57:53,510 --> 01:57:59,450 Workshops with the University of Complutense in Madrid, with Granada University, 1013 01:57:59,810 --> 01:58:07,550 also with our partner Initiative Archive in Venice, in which we were also capable of presenting the system and 1014 01:58:08,560 --> 01:58:11,830 this will for sure will have a continuation in the next months. 1015 01:58:13,150 --> 01:58:17,170 So at the end, the Selene project, 1016 01:58:17,320 --> 01:58:27,309 it has been a great opportunity for getting to work with some of the most exciting institutions dedicated to to be custodians of this unique 1017 01:58:27,310 --> 01:58:37,120 objects and get new access and shed a new light on these unique artefacts and allowing researchers to engage them in a different way, 1018 01:58:37,780 --> 01:58:44,890 but especially, it's been a reason for getting in touch with incredible professionals and the best 1019 01:58:45,340 --> 01:58:55,360 the best group that we are, we are creating the best network, the best community and being able to share all this excitement with all of them. 1020 01:58:57,480 --> 01:59:05,670 This is an ongoing project, and of course we will keep working and developing the tool over the next months, over the next years, 1021 01:59:06,150 --> 01:59:17,030 and two of the possible ways in which this system will be going is, for example, trying to get even closer to the objects, even deeper. 1022 01:59:17,660 --> 01:59:27,020 When we are changing the lens with, with a different for example, in this case from 50 to 100 or one 80mm, 1023 01:59:27,230 --> 01:59:36,020 it's possible to get to see micro mosaics, even with higher detail, with higher resolution, but also getting higher. 1024 01:59:36,230 --> 01:59:42,740 So one of the latest improvements is being able to put the Selene not working horizontally, 1025 01:59:42,740 --> 01:59:51,650 but working vertically on a kind of telescopic mast so that it's possible to record wall paintings, 1026 01:59:52,010 --> 01:59:56,060 easel paintings, elements that are actually on a vertical position, 1027 01:59:56,570 --> 02:00:08,060 and then extending the possibilities of discovering new stories in texture of things beyond, um, the walls of a library, for example. 1028 02:00:09,940 --> 02:00:19,850 Thank you very much. 1029 02:00:24,060 --> 02:00:27,960 Okay. Um, third and final speaker for this session, 1030 02:00:28,470 --> 02:00:33,420 welcome, Richard Allen, who is a software engineer in Bodleian Digital Library Systems and Services, 1031 02:00:33,720 --> 02:00:38,610 where he plays a role in developing the digital volume platform and a variety of internal tools. 1032 02:00:39,240 --> 02:00:44,910 He's the main developer for the Bodleian libraries' contribution to ARCHiOx, and in addition to his work in the university, 1033 02:00:44,910 --> 02:00:48,420 Richard is the founder of a university spin-out company called PalaeoPi, 1034 02:00:48,780 --> 02:00:54,240 which you heard John referenced earlier that specialises in cutting-edge photogrammetry hardware. 1035 02:00:54,570 --> 02:00:56,830 And so Richard is going to talk to us about 1036 02:00:56,850 --> 02:01:02,760 the work that we've been doing to integrate all of this work with our IIIF and image delivery workflows in the Bodleian. 1037 02:01:06,010 --> 02:01:09,350 introduce, so I begin. Today, 1038 02:01:09,350 --> 02:01:13,729 I'm going to guide you through the work that my team has done over the last two 1039 02:01:13,730 --> 02:01:17,900 years to make sure that we could beat the amazing work we did in part one. 1040 02:01:19,100 --> 02:01:24,710 the focus this time around was more on developing ARCHiOx as a service and getting more items online, 1041 02:01:25,340 --> 02:01:29,570 and my hope is that by the end of this talk, it'll be clear to you that we've done a lot of work. 1042 02:01:29,840 --> 02:01:31,280 A hero's journey, if you will, 1043 02:01:31,850 --> 02:01:38,660 and the ARCHiOx part two is up there with the sequels better than the originals, in my opinion, like the movie Aliens. 1044 02:01:39,350 --> 02:01:45,800 Um, so without further ado, I, I believe the last time I was here, I left you on a cliff-hanger. 1045 02:01:46,430 --> 02:01:50,840 Um, would Richard get the tiles loading seamlessly or wouldn't he? 1046 02:01:50,870 --> 02:01:54,200 Well, I did, but it was surprisingly difficult. 1047 02:01:54,320 --> 02:01:58,580 Um, but first, before I talk about a bunch of technical stuff, we need a quick recap. 1048 02:01:59,390 --> 02:02:03,680 Um, you've seen some of these slides earlier, in the other talks, but, 1049 02:02:04,920 --> 02:02:08,249 for the benefit of people who don't have much experience with this, 1050 02:02:08,250 --> 02:02:18,479 I'll go over some of them again. For the last two years, we've been working very closely with Factum to develop, the photometric stereo, 1051 02:02:18,480 --> 02:02:23,219 to capture the 3Dness of shallow relief objects and record them in a 2D format, 1052 02:02:23,220 --> 02:02:30,480 and here you can see Selene again, which is, probably the best machine on the market for what it does. 1053 02:02:32,140 --> 02:02:41,770 Basic principle is a series of four lights, you eliminate the subject whilst a high resolution camera takes a photo of four photos. 1054 02:02:42,340 --> 02:02:48,790 Um, these photos are combined in a process processing processing application written by Jorge Cano, 1055 02:02:48,790 --> 02:02:53,770 to output a set of derivatives and normal map, and albedo map and a depth map. 1056 02:02:54,520 --> 02:02:59,470 again, for the benefit of those who are new to this project, I hear you ask, what is a normal map? 1057 02:03:00,040 --> 02:03:07,950 A normal map makes up makes use of a two dimensional image file to encode the direction that a normal would face at each pixel, 1058 02:03:07,960 --> 02:03:12,310 using the RBG values to plot a 3D vector. 1059 02:03:12,320 --> 02:03:18,520 In other words, a normal map stores the orientation of a surface at each pixel location inside an RGB image. 1060 02:03:19,090 --> 02:03:23,080 here you can see a normal map of one of our wax seals, 1061 02:03:24,480 --> 02:03:33,690 and once we have this information encoded in a 2D format, we can blend it with a colour map of the same image, also known as an albedo map, 1062 02:03:33,690 --> 02:03:41,879 in a special graphical program called a Shader, and render and relight the object in real time via the browser like, 1063 02:03:41,880 --> 02:03:46,080 Google Chrome or Firefox, using something called WebGL. 1064 02:03:47,590 --> 02:03:54,220 The photo on the right is a scene of one of our copper plates from an earlier test object on our QA system. 1065 02:03:56,560 --> 02:04:00,730 And we achieve this by, my line manager, Andy, 1066 02:04:00,910 --> 02:04:01,990 you might meet him later, 1067 02:04:02,290 --> 02:04:10,390 writing a small extension to the IIIF presentation API to feed into our manifest labels that a computer would understand, 1068 02:04:10,840 --> 02:04:16,210 so that our Shader program could get the, um, correct image to process in real time. 1069 02:04:16,840 --> 02:04:20,700 and here you can see that it's all about context. 1070 02:04:20,790 --> 02:04:29,370 we use a context and it allows us to label an image as a depth map, normal map and an albedo map, a composite render and a shaded render, 1071 02:04:29,880 --> 02:04:37,410 and we are actually thinking of getting rid of the last two, since they aren't really maps in in the sense of the technology. 1072 02:04:37,770 --> 02:04:41,370 But early on, being able to label all of them was really useful. 1073 02:04:41,730 --> 02:04:44,850 skipping ahead to the end of the first part of the project, 1074 02:04:44,850 --> 02:04:51,150 and here you can see the demo video I did on the 5th of December 2022 displaying the fruits of our labour, 1075 02:04:51,480 --> 02:04:58,680 a plug-in for the IIIF called Mirador, rendering a normal map and albedo a map combined in real time with interactive lighting. 1076 02:05:00,590 --> 02:05:08,960 so back to the cliff-hanger. The first thing we aimed to solve when I last gave the talk was the efficient loading of images. 1077 02:05:09,290 --> 02:05:16,850 You may remember that to deliver gigapixel images efficiently over the internet, you need to have a dividing conquer strategy, 1078 02:05:17,240 --> 02:05:21,080 by chopping up the images into tiny squares called tiles, 1079 02:05:21,530 --> 02:05:28,370 and by doing this, you can deliver them in parallel and get around the texture size limits of this thing called WebGL, 1080 02:05:28,370 --> 02:05:33,260 which does the rendering in the browser, well, we had to achieve this 1081 02:05:33,320 --> 02:05:40,730 but we were showing people a loading screen and we were also replicating the work viewer was doing already, 1082 02:05:41,360 --> 02:05:48,320 so essentially duplicating the gigapixel amount of data twice and that needed to be gotten rid of 1083 02:05:48,410 --> 02:05:54,160 then there was also the goal of trying out different shaders and perhaps write our own. 1084 02:05:54,170 --> 02:06:00,650 And so, , readers could experience a higher level of, of authenticity when engaging with the objects. 1085 02:06:01,220 --> 02:06:07,430 those were my aims at the end of the last project. However, it wouldn't have been a very good project if it was just about me, 1086 02:06:07,850 --> 02:06:14,180 so the main focus of part two was to get ready for transition, for ARCHiOx to become a service. 1087 02:06:14,690 --> 02:06:20,749 And to do so, we needed to also work out the back end tools for delivering content and ironed 1088 02:06:20,750 --> 02:06:24,680 out any issues that got in the way of quality of media and user experience. 1089 02:06:26,040 --> 02:06:30,540 Anyway, regardless of my lofty goals from the last time 1090 02:06:30,990 --> 02:06:40,310 What happened? Well, a few weeks after the December 5th talk, I got back to work and quickly came up with a method to load in the images, , 1091 02:06:40,320 --> 02:06:48,990 asynchronously piggybacking off the, um, the viewer that we were plugging into which is called OpenSeadragon. 1092 02:06:49,410 --> 02:06:54,330 and then we were now managing to load the data once. 1093 02:06:54,360 --> 02:06:57,870 and Tim and Andy were now very happy in my work was done. 1094 02:06:58,200 --> 02:07:05,430 Except it wasn't and I'll tell you why later. My next wanted to work on making our own shaders with Jorge at Factum. 1095 02:07:05,490 --> 02:07:12,270 we began having weekly meetings together, working on the shader code in a test application he wrote called Scan and Shade. 1096 02:07:12,840 --> 02:07:17,370 However, once we started meeting and got talking, it turned out we were both talking about the same thing. 1097 02:07:17,820 --> 02:07:20,520 PBR shading or physical based rendering 1098 02:07:21,870 --> 02:07:28,650 So instead of rewriting our own shaders, we realised very quickly that these shaders were already available to us in the tools that we were using. 1099 02:07:29,130 --> 02:07:32,220 let's pause for a moment. What is PBR? 1100 02:07:32,460 --> 02:07:39,510 Well, it's a shading technique that aims to recreate realistic renders of everyday objects using a set of simplified principles 1101 02:07:39,990 --> 02:07:43,980 basically dividing materials into rough or smooth metal or non-metal. 1102 02:07:44,550 --> 02:07:50,070 and you saw an example of that on the Bible that Dylan imaged using photogrammetry. 1103 02:07:50,610 --> 02:07:57,030 now the shaders we were already using and just kind of shade had some of these properties available to us 1104 02:07:57,030 --> 02:08:03,540 so we started playing around and I worked with Jorge getting it's kind of hard to work on multiple image tiles, 1105 02:08:03,540 --> 02:08:08,880 and soon discovered a problem with renders coming from the Bodleian imaging server looked terrible. 1106 02:08:10,440 --> 02:08:22,019 Why did Jorge look so good but ours look so bad? 1107 02:08:22,020 --> 02:08:27,110 I sat and looked at the screen a while, perplexed. The render 1108 02:08:27,290 --> 02:08:32,030 whenever I changed, the shader parameters looked very grainy, very blocky, very ugly, 1109 02:08:32,480 --> 02:08:36,250 and then it dawned on me I was seeing pixels lump together with their neighbours. 1110 02:08:36,320 --> 02:08:43,830 This was lossless compression of images, and you can see it clearly in this image with the depth exaggerated. 1111 02:08:43,850 --> 02:08:47,660 You can see it's very blocky. That is a JPEG image. 1112 02:08:48,650 --> 02:08:54,000 now what is lossless compression, I hear you ask? This picture demonstrates it quite well 1113 02:08:54,030 --> 02:09:00,020 from left to right, the image is compressed progressively and you can immediately see the effects. 1114 02:09:00,030 --> 02:09:04,530 It's basically data loss and something like compressing our normal maps. 1115 02:09:05,990 --> 02:09:12,980 Well, so what? We use JPEGs all the time for other digital modelling items, and they look great, I hear you say. 1116 02:09:13,610 --> 02:09:16,990 However, you may remember back to one of our previous slides. 1117 02:09:17,000 --> 02:09:20,660 A normal map stores information on the way a surface interacts with light. 1118 02:09:20,960 --> 02:09:25,340 So data loss is not what you want to see, when you want to relight your scene. 1119 02:09:27,940 --> 02:09:32,940 However, this is a well-established problem in internet technology and photo and photography, 1120 02:09:32,950 --> 02:09:36,640 so there is a solution. Don't use a lossless image format 1121 02:09:36,850 --> 02:09:42,670 and to solve this, we need to figure out how we could get Mirador to feed lossless images into our Shader program. 1122 02:09:43,330 --> 02:09:44,940 So we started with IIIF, 1123 02:09:44,950 --> 02:09:53,440 and the way to do this already existed to in the form of something called preferred formats via the IIIF Image API version three. 1124 02:09:53,680 --> 02:10:03,670 Easy, right? Well, not exactly. We use IIPImage to deliver our images in tiles, and therefore there were some constraints. 1125 02:10:03,890 --> 02:10:07,090 We could only choose a format that IPPImage supported. 1126 02:10:07,630 --> 02:10:11,410 The format had to be lossless, and we had to be able to deliver them via the web. 1127 02:10:11,980 --> 02:10:16,090 So final file, final tile size was also an issue. 1128 02:10:16,870 --> 02:10:20,470 Here you can see a PNG is the best in terms of quality, 1129 02:10:21,400 --> 02:10:24,440 but look at the file size compared to JPEG or webP, 1130 02:10:24,580 --> 02:10:31,630 it's an order of magnitude greater. We tried PING first, an easy change because the stack already supported the delivery of them. 1131 02:10:31,930 --> 02:10:33,370 The images looked amazing, 1132 02:10:33,760 --> 02:10:39,940 but looking at the network traffic for the file streaming, it quickly became apparent we couldn't do this in a production environment. 1133 02:10:40,510 --> 02:10:49,870 So I looked into expanding our stack to serve, um, the webP format, um, a format that afforded lossless compression for a similar size to JPEG. 1134 02:10:51,390 --> 02:10:57,900 which turned out to be a full stack change, meaning some part of every part of our system architecture needed to be changed 1135 02:10:58,380 --> 02:11:07,050 and everybody loves those. I had to update the plugin several times, including messing around with something called Content Negotiation, 1136 02:11:07,440 --> 02:11:10,950 which I will note now came back to haunt us later. 1137 02:11:11,880 --> 02:11:18,450 I had to build our own version of OpenSeaDragon to add in a one word change to get it to support the new format 1138 02:11:19,080 --> 02:11:24,630 we were not that, that far at the cutting edge that they hadn't gotten around to updating it yet. 1139 02:11:25,320 --> 02:11:30,840 I then had to install and compile the dependency for IIPImage that makes webP tiles, 1140 02:11:31,110 --> 02:11:34,980 and ask for the developer of it to make some changes to support this 1141 02:11:35,520 --> 02:11:40,139 after weeks of work, basically, um, the quality 1142 02:11:40,140 --> 02:11:45,390 and then you'll say that the quality problem was solved. No more data loss in our normal maps. 1143 02:11:45,420 --> 02:11:50,190 Huzzah! However, my celebration was short lived 1144 02:11:50,250 --> 02:11:53,670 there was now another issue. We noticed the relighting. 1145 02:11:53,680 --> 02:11:56,760 when relighting the images, something weird was going on with the lights 1146 02:11:57,840 --> 02:12:03,120 they were inverted on the y axis. In other words, the light moved in the opposite direction. 1147 02:12:03,150 --> 02:12:10,560 Up was down, and down was up. After some research, it turned out that normal maps have two formats direct X and OpenGL. 1148 02:12:11,310 --> 02:12:16,830 Our renderer uses OpenGL, and the Selene processing app was producing normal maps in direct X. 1149 02:12:17,220 --> 02:12:21,900 A classic problem that continues to haunt newbies in the field every day 1150 02:12:22,350 --> 02:12:29,470 and this is one reason we need standards. Um, here you can see the impact of using one format versus the other. 1151 02:12:29,490 --> 02:12:36,080 You need to get this right because an inward facing facet becomes an outward facing facet, and vice versa, 1152 02:12:36,090 --> 02:12:40,080 when using a direct x normal map in an OpenGL renderer. 1153 02:12:40,770 --> 02:12:45,480 The only difference between the two is the green channel. On the other, BGR is inverted. 1154 02:12:47,260 --> 02:12:55,900 The problem we were having is that unless you have a visual inspection process, there is no way to know which format your normal map is in 1155 02:12:56,530 --> 02:13:00,550 until you until you can actually interact with it. 1156 02:13:01,090 --> 02:13:07,090 There was also, the possibility of one image being recorded in one orientation having the other axis inverted 1157 02:13:07,090 --> 02:13:07,510 too 1158 02:13:07,990 --> 02:13:16,330 we decided that the best thing to do was to correct the rotation and invert the y channel of the normal maps somewhere in the processing pipeline. 1159 02:13:17,170 --> 02:13:19,060 We came up with multiple ways to do this 1160 02:13:19,090 --> 02:13:26,380 first we expanded our lighting map extension, and then this allowed other users to use whatever format they want. 1161 02:13:27,010 --> 02:13:31,620 And then John was able to correct the rotation based on the advice of Jorge. 1162 02:13:32,200 --> 02:13:36,279 And since then, 1163 02:13:36,280 --> 02:13:42,129 he's updated the processing application for the solution that allows users to choose which format 1164 02:13:42,130 --> 02:13:47,770 they want to and export normal maps in and embedded so that a machine can read what format it's in. 1165 02:13:47,950 --> 02:13:51,310 Getting around the problem of having to do visual inspections. 1166 02:13:56,850 --> 02:14:04,799 Weeks of work are relighting our works as expected, and now lighting is the right way round, and although the process is still manual today, 1167 02:14:04,800 --> 02:14:10,200 there's still a little bit of this going on with Tim, Andy and I staring at images as they come online. 1168 02:14:10,530 --> 02:14:15,209 We, in theory, know how to automate this now, so this is going to be. 1169 02:14:15,210 --> 02:14:22,380 In parallel to these issues, I also spent days looking at how we could feed in start-up parameters to our shader so that each object, 1170 02:14:23,160 --> 02:14:27,180 had the properties of the shaders encoded in the manifest. 1171 02:14:27,180 --> 02:14:28,740 And this is still a work in progress. 1172 02:14:29,130 --> 02:14:34,709 And but a lot of the homework has already been done in order to make something that people in libraries and, 1173 02:14:34,710 --> 02:14:38,760 archives can find useful, we need to use something called controlled vocabulary. 1174 02:14:39,000 --> 02:14:43,440 So we need to figure out library ways of describing these technical things 1175 02:14:43,500 --> 02:14:51,570 and you can see in the next slide, we've also expanded our lighting map extension of IIIF to begin to 1176 02:14:52,520 --> 02:14:53,300 talk about these 1177 02:14:53,810 --> 02:15:02,480 we have a conductor, which means an object that's 100% metal, dielectric, which means something which is should be set at zero metal. 1178 02:15:02,930 --> 02:15:06,880 then there are words that comment on how shiny an object is 1179 02:15:06,890 --> 02:15:14,090 and the idea being that we can create a set of shininess depending on the level that an object needs when it first loads in the viewer. 1180 02:15:14,480 --> 02:15:18,740 none of this is in place in our infrastructure yet, but 1181 02:15:19,100 --> 02:15:25,250 because I think we should seek the advice and feedback of the IIIF community before deciding on the controlled vocabulary we use. 1182 02:15:27,170 --> 02:15:31,100 And the next major part of the project this time around was UX and user testing. 1183 02:15:31,210 --> 02:15:39,770 Tim and Ruth made a lot of, um, putting a lot of effort in arranging for a plugin to be tested by experts on the objects we were digitising. 1184 02:15:40,490 --> 02:15:44,840 It was compared against similar tools, and through the process we got a lot of positive feedback, 1185 02:15:44,840 --> 02:15:50,510 but also some critical feedback to help really make our tool something useful to them as researchers or curators. 1186 02:15:50,990 --> 02:15:55,190 And I had already anticipated some of these issues arising from this exercise. 1187 02:15:55,430 --> 02:16:02,210 And so I was working on this when disaster struck. Out of nowhere, a bug in Google Chrome, 1188 02:16:02,600 --> 02:16:06,940 propped up with an update that added a black screen of death, 1189 02:16:06,950 --> 02:16:16,910 basically that required a user to hard reload the browser plug in and something that became was it was happening during testing. 1190 02:16:17,300 --> 02:16:21,379 Now, although this didn't break the plugin because you could technically reload it from the cache, 1191 02:16:21,380 --> 02:16:24,980 is unacceptable for the user to have to know that. 1192 02:16:25,310 --> 02:16:29,900 So we spent a huge amount of time trying to figure this out, and we finally did. 1193 02:16:30,290 --> 02:16:33,530 And here's a joke. How many software engineers did it take to find a bug? 1194 02:16:33,560 --> 02:16:36,049 the answer is three days, 1195 02:16:36,050 --> 02:16:42,710 one engineer, one senior systems architect, one digitisation and digital engagement manager, one project manager, and one Judith Siefring. 1196 02:16:44,540 --> 02:16:49,159 It turns out that Chromium browser doesn't respect content negotiation like normal. 1197 02:16:49,160 --> 02:16:57,210 And, if you first nav it, if you navigate from something like Digital Bodleian and using version two, it remembers that it's used version two. 1198 02:16:57,230 --> 02:17:04,880 So when you try and load version three, it it doesn't know the the, um, lighting map extension doesn't appear. 1199 02:17:05,090 --> 02:17:08,390 So the machine doesn't know what it's looking at, and you get the black screen of death. 1200 02:17:09,640 --> 02:17:15,549 But we managed to fix that. Um, the next issue that, um, has been pointed out is 1201 02:17:15,550 --> 02:17:22,540 we needed to do mobile optimisation because we had some people in IIIF community trying to use their phones on trains to look at ARCHiOx objects, 1202 02:17:23,080 --> 02:17:29,560 and, um, it became apparent that the um, user interface was too big for, , tiny, um, iPhones. 1203 02:17:30,070 --> 02:17:37,510 So we got a lot of useful feedback on that, and we actually managed to put in some of it in place, ready for today. 1204 02:17:38,110 --> 02:17:45,310 and these are different shots of mobile views that you can activate in Google Chrome to check it's working. 1205 02:17:45,940 --> 02:17:54,260 See on the left there is something called Specular enhancement mode, which has less sliders available, 1206 02:17:54,290 --> 02:18:01,040 and then in the middle you've got PBR shading and then you've got the tool menu, 1207 02:18:01,040 --> 02:18:05,780 which can be basically put away into a drawer so that you can see more of the screen on a mobile. 1208 02:18:06,350 --> 02:18:11,989 Um, another issue was that people weren't finding the image layers in Mirador, because there's all these. 1209 02:18:11,990 --> 02:18:16,340 There's this stack of wonderful renders that we have available for people to, um, look at. 1210 02:18:16,640 --> 02:18:22,190 So we've now got a button that allows you to cycle through them when you're not looking, when you're not relighting it. 1211 02:18:23,100 --> 02:18:27,120 I have the ability to toggle between the shading techniques, 1212 02:18:27,120 --> 02:18:29,609 as I previously mentioned, we've got specular enhancement mode, 1213 02:18:29,610 --> 02:18:34,019 which is basically allowing the user to remove that colour like it's been mentioned before, 1214 02:18:34,020 --> 02:18:39,690 so that you can focus on the details and bring out the shadows and highlights of an object in real time. 1215 02:18:40,530 --> 02:18:46,800 I made improvements to the way we lit by adding in 1216 02:18:48,220 --> 02:18:52,870 the ability to choose a particular angle that you using a light, 1217 02:18:53,080 --> 02:18:58,960 you can see on the sphere, there are little grid gradations of 1218 02:18:59,290 --> 02:19:07,720 the angle that you can put the lighter so you can go from a really exaggerated, light to almost 1219 02:19:08,080 --> 02:19:17,030 zenithal overhead. And, um, we've even added in a little helper so that people can see where the direction of the light is coming from, 1220 02:19:17,050 --> 02:19:24,090 it's a little blue arrow. Um, and there's also a number of sliders that we've added, 1221 02:19:24,120 --> 02:19:27,239 one of them is normal depth that really makes the details pop out. 1222 02:19:27,240 --> 02:19:36,819 And you can see here. Um, that the people who created these Japanese woodblocks pressed really hard on the paper because this is really shallow, 1223 02:19:36,820 --> 02:19:46,630 but in the viewer, we can we can exaggerate the depth and the, um, when you put raking light over it, you get real detail popping out now. 1224 02:19:47,170 --> 02:19:52,720 To wrap up quickly, I'm just going to go over some of the impact that this projects, spawned, 1225 02:19:53,350 --> 02:20:03,880 this is a shot of a chess set that, one of the convenors of the IIIF 3D community did. 1226 02:20:03,910 --> 02:20:07,660 I got invited to help draft a 1227 02:20:08,600 --> 02:20:13,459 the draft, the new IIIF 3D specification in Washington, 1228 02:20:13,460 --> 02:20:20,450 and that wouldn't have happened if I hadn't become an expert in Mirador and creating these 3D tools. 1229 02:20:20,660 --> 02:20:26,120 So if it wasn't for ARCHiOx, we wouldn't have, um, been invited to be part of that community. 1230 02:20:26,570 --> 02:20:33,290 You've already seen in the last presentation that John and Jorge were given the opportunity to go to the conference in Amsterdam, 1231 02:20:33,290 --> 02:20:36,800 and they received a lot of positive feedback on their work because I was there to witness it. 1232 02:20:37,100 --> 02:20:41,830 I was able to improve OpenSeadragon several times, 1233 02:20:41,890 --> 02:20:47,830 version five of OpenSeadragon now in which is used by thousands of people around the world, 1234 02:20:47,830 --> 02:20:53,380 now includes fixes that were needed for our project, but they benefit the whole community basically. 1235 02:20:53,830 --> 02:20:57,190 So that now supports WebP as an image format, 1236 02:20:57,190 --> 02:21:02,260 and also we fixed rotation and flipping of overlays, which were broken. 1237 02:21:03,740 --> 02:21:09,590 I've also written a static website generator in Python so people can host the photometrics, 1238 02:21:09,590 --> 02:21:13,760 stereo images or RTI images without having a complicated infrastructure. 1239 02:21:14,090 --> 02:21:21,319 and this is the project here. Um, it wasn't working for Jorge and but I'm confident that I've now fix the black screen of death, 1240 02:21:21,320 --> 02:21:26,030 it should work, now. It's Google Chrome fault. Um, and here is our 1241 02:21:26,060 --> 02:21:29,510 ARCHiOx plug in using an alternative. This is 1242 02:21:30,500 --> 02:21:35,299 just basically to point out that, um, the plug in works with anything that produces a normal map. 1243 02:21:35,300 --> 02:21:42,140 So this is just a little RTI I did of a fossil, and it works just the same as a photometric stereo. 1244 02:21:44,100 --> 02:21:50,040 I've gone almost over everything, but I'll now quickly go over what we're going to do next in part three. 1245 02:21:50,490 --> 02:21:53,160 We're going to focus on getting more of these UX changes out 1246 02:21:53,160 --> 02:21:59,550 and we have this huge, um, board that we prepared after user testing, and I'm going to go through it and, 1247 02:22:00,210 --> 02:22:09,360 and follow the advice that we were given and make our tool like the best in terms of web browser tools, 1248 02:22:09,450 --> 02:22:16,230 we're going to focus on maybe publishing our IIIF line extension after involving the community. 1249 02:22:16,710 --> 02:22:24,090 We're going to be we're part of the 2.5 D, group, and we're going to I'm going to ask for that help in deciding, 1250 02:22:24,540 --> 02:22:27,570 some of the vocabulary that we're going to use, and then we're going, 1251 02:22:27,810 --> 02:22:30,960 I think we should try and publish this so that people can, 1252 02:22:31,590 --> 02:22:38,149 because it's one of the requirements to being able to host the stuff yourself is being able to understand the lighting map extension. 1253 02:22:38,150 --> 02:22:39,690 And so, to do that. 1254 02:22:40,170 --> 02:22:46,560 but mainly we're going to focus on getting our pipeline completely smooth and allow us to deliver more ARCHIOx as of course service. 1255 02:22:46,830 --> 02:22:50,489 And you'll see here we have the pleasure of 1256 02:22:50,490 --> 02:22:55,530 we have a dedicated collection of ARCHiOx objects on our Digital Bodleian website that you can go to and on, 1257 02:22:55,530 --> 02:23:00,630 when you click on each object on the right, there is a button that says view in 2.5 D, 1258 02:23:01,020 --> 02:23:08,100 and when you click that, it will take you to Mirador, and you'll be able to interact with these images yourself using our improved plugin. 1259 02:23:08,550 --> 02:23:11,970 And there is a QR code if you want a shortcut to the collection. 1260 02:23:12,420 --> 02:23:14,430 And I'd like to thank you all for listening. 1261 02:23:14,430 --> 02:23:23,580 And thank, thank my colleagues, um, in the Bodleian and our colleagues at Factum and more and most importantly, our kind benefactors 1262 02:23:23,610 --> 02:23:34,819 Helen Hanlyn Trust. Thank you. Wonderful. 1263 02:23:34,820 --> 02:23:37,940 Thank you Richard. Carlos, do you want to come down to the front? 1264 02:23:37,940 --> 02:23:42,950 Do we have another chair? Yes we do, so we have around 20 minutes for questions. 1265 02:23:43,010 --> 02:23:46,880 I'm hoping that you've all been scribbling them down during those talks. 1266 02:23:47,300 --> 02:23:50,540 Do we have, we do have a microphone. Excellent. 1267 02:23:51,020 --> 02:23:54,090 Any questions? Don't be shy. There we go. 1268 02:23:56,680 --> 02:24:00,400 Hello, how are you defining 2.5D? 1269 02:24:02,950 --> 02:24:09,850 So 2.5D I mean, I've referred to all of the recordings as 3D because they they all have a Z axis 1270 02:24:10,030 --> 02:24:16,180 but two and a half D is, is the texture recorded from a static position above 1271 02:24:16,480 --> 02:24:22,930 So with photogrammetry, you recording an original from every conceivable angle, evenly illuminated. 1272 02:24:23,170 --> 02:24:31,420 The opposite is true from with the Selene, which uses photometric stereo that is a two and a half the recording system. 1273 02:24:32,400 --> 02:24:36,540 Does that make sense? Yeah. 1274 02:24:37,260 --> 02:24:42,059 So 2.5D, for instance, if you had a triangle that you were recording, 1275 02:24:42,060 --> 02:24:46,050 but there was nothing underneath the triangle, given that it's been recorded from above, 1276 02:24:46,410 --> 02:24:52,680 it would assume that that triangle is solid, but it might just be something which was sticking out, which had a void underneath it. 1277 02:24:52,980 --> 02:24:56,760 The camera doesn't know that there's something, whether there's something there or not. 1278 02:24:57,330 --> 02:25:00,690 so that's the really the limitation with, with photometric stereo. 1279 02:25:01,470 --> 02:25:09,480 So you're am I correct in thinking that you, you use the term two and a half deep for just a surface? 1280 02:25:10,050 --> 02:25:12,120 Yeah. Okay. I know that's another definition 1281 02:25:12,130 --> 02:25:20,190 perhaps it can also be understood as any three dimensional object which has three axis of direction x, y, 1282 02:25:20,190 --> 02:25:29,550 z, in which one of the axes is much, much smaller than the other two, meaning flat shape with some texture. 1283 02:25:30,120 --> 02:25:35,900 Yeah. And in our plugin, the geometry is just a flat plane, completely flat, 1284 02:25:36,470 --> 02:25:44,150 it's a bunch of tiles linked together and, um, the only thing I'm feeding in 2D images 1285 02:25:44,150 --> 02:25:50,000 and the normal map, is basically telling the shader to where the light direction is coming from, 1286 02:25:50,000 --> 02:25:55,890 so it gives the illusion of 3D. So it's not I'm using a 3D technology, but it's really 2D 1287 02:25:55,910 --> 02:26:02,520 so that's why I prefer the term 2.5D for this. This, for instance, is a 2.5D recording 1288 02:26:02,520 --> 02:26:10,799 so this was recorded with the Selene. Um, the skeleton of this um, recording is just simply a mesh of, of squares, 1289 02:26:10,800 --> 02:26:20,910 in fact, and those squares have been displaced with a texture map, um, something called a height map or depth map, and 1290 02:26:23,570 --> 02:26:30,500 right, there we go, so as you can see, the sides have not been recorded and we can't turn the seal over. 1291 02:26:30,520 --> 02:26:38,960 So this is a this is a 2.5 D recording, whereas this Magna Carta seal we could see that we could turn it completely over. 1292 02:26:39,020 --> 02:26:42,130 We've recorded the sides. So this is a photogrammetry recording. 1293 02:26:42,610 --> 02:26:49,360 and as I said, there are advantages and benefits to both those, um, , both those procedures. 1294 02:26:49,870 --> 02:26:53,349 This takes a very, very long time to, to record. 1295 02:26:53,350 --> 02:26:59,320 So this, this probably took a day to, to make this recording of the, of the, of the seal using photogrammetry. 1296 02:26:59,770 --> 02:27:05,800 The previous seal probably took two seconds to, to record and 40s to process. 1297 02:27:06,790 --> 02:27:19,450 That is so incredibly efficient. What do you think of the potential consumer uses of this system outside of research? 1298 02:27:24,330 --> 02:27:30,520 You can teach. You can use them. I'll plug in works in a browser and it's delivered as software, as a service. 1299 02:27:31,210 --> 02:27:38,170 and it's all open source as well. So, the front end is open source, so anyone can deploy it for a collection that they have. 1300 02:27:38,620 --> 02:27:45,820 and it, it just means it's a nice way of,getting students and things to engage with it. 1301 02:27:46,180 --> 02:27:52,540 given that the viewers that we're using also support technology such as annotating and things like that. 1302 02:27:52,870 --> 02:27:59,199 you could set up a, um, you could set up a system where 1303 02:27:59,200 --> 02:28:03,370 students could make their own annotations and keep them, keep their own notes on objects. 1304 02:28:03,400 --> 02:28:08,690 so I think... And how small are you planning on going with the images? 1305 02:28:08,760 --> 02:28:12,640 Do you recon you could get microscopic with the software or even cellular level. 1306 02:28:12,850 --> 02:28:17,370 Already it already does deliver so millimetre details. 1307 02:28:17,380 --> 02:28:20,280 You're kind of only limited by the lens which you put into the system. 1308 02:28:20,290 --> 02:28:24,580 So typically we use a 50 millimetre lens and that gives you a million pixels per square inch. 1309 02:28:25,000 --> 02:28:29,590 If you tried that for 100 um, millimetre lens, you get 4 million pixels per square inch. 1310 02:28:30,130 --> 02:28:35,920 So I think it's something that I'd like to explore putting on really, really high magnification lenses. 1311 02:28:35,920 --> 02:28:42,850 And I'm sure it'll work for far too I, I've used a dioptre on a camera and I got 30 micron details. 1312 02:28:42,850 --> 02:28:46,810 So it's it's really you can get really high high magnification 1313 02:28:46,900 --> 02:28:49,420 well, relatively high magnification just using a camera. 1314 02:28:49,990 --> 02:28:55,840 So, but the principle I reckon you could use it on a microscope if you had four tiny lights. 1315 02:28:58,480 --> 02:29:02,510 So challenge, I think that the limiting factor might be depth of field. 1316 02:29:02,530 --> 02:29:07,210 And you do need good sharpness,so yes, it must be sharp. 1317 02:29:11,730 --> 02:29:18,330 question for anyone who wants to, you talking about dealing with highly reflective surfaces such as metal? 1318 02:29:18,510 --> 02:29:21,990 How far do you think you could push that? Could you do glass or jewellery? 1319 02:29:25,490 --> 02:29:31,280 I mean, there's some limitation with, translucent or transparent objects at the end. 1320 02:29:31,910 --> 02:29:39,090 We are talking about optical systems that depend on getting up 1321 02:29:40,010 --> 02:29:46,790 something that can be properly measured once you have images that are yeah, fine in detail. 1322 02:29:46,790 --> 02:29:50,600 So the moment you are, you have confusing information. 1323 02:29:51,080 --> 02:29:55,400 It's not possible to compute the 4 images into creating relief data. 1324 02:29:56,630 --> 02:30:08,930 said that there's ways of, you know, in a way helping to avoid the negative effects of highly varnished surface, for example. 1325 02:30:10,040 --> 02:30:16,759 Or, Saddam was showing this morning, perhaps combining Selene with other technologies like Gaussian splat. 1326 02:30:16,760 --> 02:30:22,220 It's possible to, even if you are not recording 3D, but effectively being able to visualise 1327 02:30:23,150 --> 02:30:28,820 3D. So yeah, again, it's about pushing the limits of the technology 1328 02:30:29,180 --> 02:30:40,040 one step at a time. You might recall the, um, small portrait which was, um, under glass in the first session. 1329 02:30:40,430 --> 02:30:45,190 So that was highly reflective, like recording through that glass is is possible because the, 1330 02:30:45,190 --> 02:30:50,270 the lights of the Selene are in position such that they're not really reflecting onto the surface. 1331 02:30:50,450 --> 02:30:54,170 So really the central portion of each recording is the most accurate part. 1332 02:30:54,490 --> 02:30:59,690 And especially if you're making a multi tiled image, you're combining the best part of each image. 1333 02:31:00,050 --> 02:31:02,690 so actually reflections is not something that I struggle with. 1334 02:31:02,690 --> 02:31:10,400 And a lot of our copper plates, I mean, some examples that I've showed you are very dull and highly corroded, but others are extremely reflective. 1335 02:31:10,700 --> 02:31:14,150 And actually Selene is very, very good at recording these surfaces. 1336 02:31:16,220 --> 02:31:20,390 do you have any plans of incorporating that spectral domain? 1337 02:31:20,420 --> 02:31:23,630 you mentioned pushing through,the technology. 1338 02:31:24,770 --> 02:31:27,770 you can incorporate multispectral imaging, for example. 1339 02:31:27,770 --> 02:31:33,780 Is that a plan that you have? I mean, you can layer multi-band images with the Selene recordings. 1340 02:31:33,780 --> 02:31:39,840 So that's something that I showed in the in the first section with a I don't know, Adam. 1341 02:31:40,320 --> 02:31:46,950 Is that something that you've considered thinking to the question? So, so it's combining multi-band imaging into the Selene. 1342 02:31:50,910 --> 02:32:03,260 I mean. I think to get the best results, probably it's best to use a very high end multi-band system and the 2.5 to the Selene, 1343 02:32:03,740 --> 02:32:12,080 because I think it's better to to get really good quality recording systems rather than trying to make one machine to do everything. 1344 02:32:12,080 --> 02:32:21,050 not as well, if you see what I mean. I was very interested to see your mobile unit 1345 02:32:21,770 --> 02:32:23,240 because obviously, 1346 02:32:23,260 --> 02:32:32,000 the full scale Selene thing is a thing that's static in a few museums or galleries that are lucky enough to have one or the means to buy one. 1347 02:32:32,360 --> 02:32:38,269 but there's huge potential for this type of technology to go out to 1348 02:32:38,270 --> 02:32:44,180 other places who might need it for an object or two objects or, you know, for three weeks or something of that sort. 1349 02:32:44,540 --> 02:32:54,410 so the machine is one thing, but the expert to take the images and process the images is another aspect of that. 1350 02:32:54,740 --> 02:33:02,299 I was wondering if you could say a little bit more about how, whether it's through ARCHiOx or through the Factum Foundation, 1351 02:33:02,300 --> 02:33:08,420 or how really you're going to be able to, operationalise this for the broader, 1352 02:33:08,450 --> 02:33:16,400 heritage community, which may not have the means or the need for one of these 1353 02:33:16,700 --> 02:33:24,710 piece of kit all the time, but could, generate immense value from it for particular projects. 1354 02:33:25,760 --> 02:33:32,840 Thank you, so I would say the goal of all this project is about making sure that 1355 02:33:34,660 --> 02:33:39,610 you want to know about making sure that it's possible to record as many original objects as possible, 1356 02:33:39,610 --> 02:33:45,280 as many collections as possible, because that's essential for the conservation, the long term preservation of the objects. 1357 02:33:45,760 --> 02:33:51,700 So it's part of the work of the Factum Foundation to provide the technology and the know 1358 02:33:51,700 --> 02:34:00,400 how, about how to do that. And I think the focus in this case is about making it very specialised to the needs of the institution. 1359 02:34:00,730 --> 02:34:05,890 In some cases, they will need a full working system like what they have here at the Bodleian. 1360 02:34:06,190 --> 02:34:14,800 In other cases, it's about one particular object or one specific type of object that perhaps doesn't need the complete system. 1361 02:34:15,070 --> 02:34:25,570 So we could train the, technicians into only one aspect out of the complexity of this project so that they don't really need to understand. 1362 02:34:26,290 --> 02:34:30,190 I mean, there's so many variables, both in the capturing and in the processing, 1363 02:34:31,000 --> 02:34:36,040 but sometimes it's just about focusing on one specific, set of skills. 1364 02:34:36,340 --> 02:34:44,750 And yes, answering to your question, the idea is, any possible way of making it as accessible as possible. 1365 02:34:46,020 --> 02:34:46,120 Jo 1366 02:34:46,210 --> 02:34:57,940 I mean, I think in what we're doing with the archive in Venice is running the Archive Online Academy, where, um, there's learning by doing courses. 1367 02:34:59,860 --> 02:35:09,460 So that both professionals within institutions and interested third parties can understand how to do the work. 1368 02:35:09,830 --> 02:35:15,840 then the development of the portable Selene means it can go very easily. 1369 02:35:15,850 --> 02:35:18,430 I mean, it's tripod mounted. It fits in a box. 1370 02:35:18,850 --> 02:35:26,740 So, what we're proposing really to put into Saint Catherine's Monastery is effectively a slightly glorified, 1371 02:35:27,070 --> 02:35:34,150 um, portable system because it needs to tie in with what, Justin's doing with the multi-spectral recording. 1372 02:35:34,570 --> 02:35:39,880 So I think the idea is, rather than just thinking there's this system, 1373 02:35:40,830 --> 02:35:49,740 desk and studio, if you're thinking it's really a camera with a different lighting system and some software, 1374 02:35:50,040 --> 02:35:54,620 and I mean, from the event to years ago, what I think, 1375 02:35:54,630 --> 02:36:00,000 Richard was just talking about what's been clear from John and, and Carlos's 1376 02:36:00,030 --> 02:36:06,300 presentations is it's becoming easier and easier as the software solves the problems. 1377 02:36:06,450 --> 02:36:09,719 I mean, you still have to know how to take good photographs. 1378 02:36:09,720 --> 02:36:12,990 You have to understand it. But the principle of it... has to be 1379 02:36:15,730 --> 02:36:22,690 I mean, if you have a single object, does it make, you know, how do you get that piece of kit to and the person who knows how to do it? 1380 02:36:23,200 --> 02:36:32,680 Well, I mean, one way is you get on an airoplane and you take the scanner, I mean, so a scanner's going to Naples today working on a special project. 1381 02:36:32,980 --> 02:36:34,959 I mean, what 1382 02:36:34,960 --> 02:36:44,440 Helen Hamlyn's Trust enables us to do by having two scanners that could be lent out is to do single use or relatively focussed projects. 1383 02:36:44,740 --> 02:36:49,479 But but basically, it's growing very fast. So it's becoming easier. 1384 02:36:49,480 --> 02:36:54,240 And the systems, I mean, the systems cost money, but they're not horribly expensive. 1385 02:36:54,280 --> 02:37:02,860 I mean, you know, when you've got institutions who spend, you know, a large amount on buying a phase one medium format camera 1386 02:37:03,430 --> 02:37:09,160 this is a 35 millimetre with four lights with very good software. 1387 02:37:09,430 --> 02:37:15,490 So it's becoming affordable in different ways and producing very, very good results. 1388 02:37:15,820 --> 02:37:26,050 I mean, comparative comparable to I mean, is that Selene circle something else that could enable as a sharing system to. 1389 02:37:27,270 --> 02:37:36,340 The Selene circle is a sharing system, a community of practice amongst all the people who are working with the equipment and that spreading. 1390 02:37:36,360 --> 02:37:40,379 I mean, the more people who have them, then hopefully there'll be one near you. 1391 02:37:40,380 --> 02:37:49,330 Jo, I think that's part of our vision with ARCHiOx 1392 02:37:49,780 --> 02:37:53,040 John's already been out and taken the mobile Selene 1393 02:37:53,050 --> 02:37:58,900 yeah, so, yes, that is part of our vision. 1394 02:37:58,900 --> 02:38:04,330 But we need to make sure that we get it right. And, um, and, you know... 1395 02:38:06,160 --> 02:38:11,530 well, no, we just need to make sure that we've got enough people within the Studio downstairs, 1396 02:38:11,530 --> 02:38:18,580 which is also part of our vision to to get that training and become part of integrated into how we work here. 1397 02:38:20,170 --> 02:38:29,380 And the community of practice will just help that. And I think in the longer term, it would be nice for the community of practice to to have 1398 02:38:30,590 --> 02:38:34,580 software people excuse my lack of technical knowledge, everybody. 1399 02:38:34,910 --> 02:38:42,020 photographers and other people, not necessarily Selene users, but people who are really, 1400 02:38:42,020 --> 02:38:46,349 really interested in what we're doing so that we can just share that knowledge. 1401 02:38:46,350 --> 02:38:55,670 So I think it's there is a lot to work forward to, but we've come a long way in the last nearly three years from um, 1402 02:38:55,910 --> 02:39:04,460 Factum and Jorge and Adam and idea all the work they'd done leading up to that because there's three years, 3 or 4 years before that. 1403 02:39:05,080 --> 02:39:09,800 And we're getting there, but we've got a long way to go and a lot more to do. 1404 02:39:13,490 --> 02:39:17,930 Will this developing technology speed up the 1405 02:39:17,930 --> 02:39:23,960 repatriation of artefacts back to their original locations? 1406 02:39:26,440 --> 02:39:30,930 I think that might be above the pay grade of everyone in the room. Adam, do you want to take that one? 1407 02:39:32,850 --> 02:39:37,860 I think probably it's always good to answer a question like that with an example. 1408 02:39:38,490 --> 02:39:47,180 So, Factum has been working for the last 7 or 8 years in Nigeria, in southeast Nigeria, 1409 02:39:47,190 --> 02:39:53,310 on the recording of the Bakor monoliths and the end last year, 1410 02:39:53,680 --> 02:39:59,759 beginning of last year, there was an exhibition at the British Museum of the Bakor 1411 02:39:59,760 --> 02:40:04,050 a Bakor monolith that's in the collection of the British Museum. 1412 02:40:04,710 --> 02:40:13,230 And Factum put out a rather, I suppose, cheeky call saying that any museum that had a Bakor, 1413 02:40:13,230 --> 02:40:17,820 monolith that thought it shouldn't have if 1414 02:40:17,820 --> 02:40:24,870 they gave us permission to make an exact facsimile, which they kept and returned the original object to the, 1415 02:40:25,320 --> 02:40:30,210 local site Factum Foundation would fund the project. 1416 02:40:30,720 --> 02:40:38,280 And slightly to our surprise the Chrysler Museum in North Carolina 1417 02:40:38,280 --> 02:40:43,980 approached us and said they had a Bakor monolith that they'd been donated that they felt they shouldn't have. 1418 02:40:44,630 --> 02:40:48,270 we went in and recorded it. We made a facsimile. 1419 02:40:48,780 --> 02:40:54,089 the facsimile is now on show in the Chrysler Museum 1420 02:40:54,090 --> 02:40:58,830 as part of a display focussed on the problems of preserving cultural heritage 1421 02:40:59,040 --> 02:41:02,250 in parts of the world where there isn't really a culture of preservation. 1422 02:41:03,000 --> 02:41:11,490 the original monolith was handed over to the Nigerian ambassador in Washington, and it's now made its way back. 1423 02:41:11,760 --> 02:41:19,470 It's not quite where it needs to be. It's about 50 miles away, but it's in Calabar and it's on show in the museum in Calabar. 1424 02:41:19,830 --> 02:41:26,340 While the site in the village is being prepared for it to be looked after. 1425 02:41:26,610 --> 02:41:32,970 So I think there are examples where I think 1426 02:41:33,000 --> 02:41:42,389 attitudes towards ownership are shifting and I think there's a lot more to be done in terms of how you can share objects. 1427 02:41:42,390 --> 02:41:48,719 But really, for me, the excitement that I tried to show this morning is once you've got a digital recording, 1428 02:41:48,720 --> 02:41:56,620 that's not just an image, not just a photograph extracted and put online, but is an object that you can handle 1429 02:41:56,880 --> 02:42:07,110 that you could look at that you couldn't in a virtual space engage with, then I think you're changing the whole relationship between, 1430 02:42:07,530 --> 02:42:13,260 objects, how they communicate, what they communicate, and what people can get from them. 1431 02:42:13,440 --> 02:42:22,739 And I think the whole question of the relationship between originality and authenticity is really opening up a lot. 1432 02:42:22,740 --> 02:42:31,230 And I'm sure the debate will run for a long time. Um, but hopefully in some cases things can migrate to where 1433 02:42:32,410 --> 02:42:36,850 they're more purposeful or where they can fulfil a greater need. 1434 02:42:37,690 --> 02:42:41,680 So I think we're getting past a minor yours battle. 1435 02:42:43,040 --> 02:42:51,760 I hope, I think that's taken us to the end of our Q&A time. 1436 02:42:51,790 --> 02:42:55,780 so I'm going to invite Adam up to wrap up for us. 1437 02:42:56,230 --> 02:43:04,300 before the all important drinks reception in the Blackwell Hall, but before Adam, wraps up for us, just join me in thanking, Carlos and John and Richard. 1438 02:43:15,470 --> 02:43:22,629 I think you've all had enough of me for today, but I mean, I actually feel quite emotional. 1439 02:43:22,630 --> 02:43:27,740 I feel the, the level of conversation and focus has been really extraordinary. 1440 02:43:27,760 --> 02:43:40,030 So from 1:00 till now, there seems to have been a really intense, concentration on the materiality of things in museum library collections. 1441 02:43:41,410 --> 02:43:49,600 You know, I loved seeing the Raphael drawings being kind of unpacked, unpacked, looked at as physical objects. 1442 02:43:49,960 --> 02:43:56,160 And I had the great privilege when I was a student at the Ruskin, to have 1443 02:43:56,210 --> 02:44:02,020 a studio which was called the Ruskin Masters Drawing Studio, which was within the Ashmolean. 1444 02:44:02,410 --> 02:44:04,569 And so a big part 1445 02:44:04,570 --> 02:44:14,580 of my education as an artist was actually going to the prints and drawings and handling many of these things and thinking drawings, 1446 02:44:14,590 --> 02:44:21,040 they're not images. They're not just images. Drawings are objects absolutely packed with information. 1447 02:44:21,400 --> 02:44:30,490 And one of the things that we didn't see is we also recorded one of the extraordinary Michelangelo, um, late crucifixion drawings. 1448 02:44:31,090 --> 02:44:37,660 There, you could start to almost see how the laid lines in the paper were influencing the drawing. 1449 02:44:38,840 --> 02:44:42,090 How the the watermark suddenly becomes a part of it. 1450 02:44:42,090 --> 02:44:45,899 So the drawings immediately become physical objects. 1451 02:44:45,900 --> 02:44:50,400 And I think that's been visible all day today. 1452 02:44:51,030 --> 02:44:56,010 And in the sort of three years that ARCHiOx has been running 1453 02:44:56,610 --> 02:44:59,830 I think we've moved a very long way. 1454 02:44:59,880 --> 02:45:02,730 I mean, I think what you saw in Carlos, 1455 02:45:02,730 --> 02:45:09,780 talk from the software development that's going on in Richard's talk the whole way that you put it online. 1456 02:45:10,200 --> 02:45:17,639 And for me, getting this true three dimensional handling of an object in a, 1457 02:45:17,640 --> 02:45:23,550 in a virtual space, in an online space is something that's going to be a game changer. 1458 02:45:23,940 --> 02:45:32,849 And I'm very, very happy that in a way, it's been the collaboration here at the Bodleian between, you know, the studio in Madrid. 1459 02:45:32,850 --> 02:45:38,430 And it should be said that, you know, Factum Foundation, in a way, is is an idea. 1460 02:45:38,610 --> 02:45:43,860 I mean, Factum is a group of people who are focussed 1461 02:45:44,020 --> 02:45:49,799 it's almost like a playground where everyone's focussed on trying to work as a team, 1462 02:45:49,800 --> 02:45:56,160 trying to be cross-disciplinary and stand outside of normal professional positions 1463 02:45:56,610 --> 02:46:02,130 and focus on shared problems and find solutions that have a real application. 1464 02:46:02,610 --> 02:46:09,749 So, I mean, what's become very clear is that more and more people are wanting to visit Factum in Madrid, 1465 02:46:09,750 --> 02:46:18,120 which is a bit of a nightmare because actually it's a chaotic, highly functioning, hard working studio and more and more people want to come and talk. 1466 02:46:18,450 --> 02:46:23,069 But something's happening. And I think the collaboration here and, you know, 1467 02:46:23,070 --> 02:46:28,350 it's it's very true that Elaine and John and the team in ARCHiOx has 1468 02:46:28,350 --> 02:46:33,900 really worked as a collaboration because they've responded in amazing ways. 1469 02:46:34,140 --> 02:46:37,740 Um, and you know what, what Richard was talking about these weekly meetings with 1470 02:46:37,740 --> 02:46:41,880 Jorge, so I should say it's very sad that Jorge is not here today. 1471 02:46:42,330 --> 02:46:48,270 Um, he's not been so well recently. And I hope he will be back to full health very soon. 1472 02:46:48,690 --> 02:46:54,209 Um, but, um, you know, he's missed. I mean, he's one of a team 1473 02:46:54,210 --> 02:47:03,750 probably of about 8 or 10 people who over 7 or 8 years have been focussed on trying to get this photometric system to work. 1474 02:47:03,750 --> 02:47:09,989 So in a way, Jo to answer to your question, I mean, the portable Selene is exactly what you ask about. 1475 02:47:09,990 --> 02:47:14,070 I mean, we need to be someone needs to be able to say, can you bring it here and do this? 1476 02:47:14,400 --> 02:47:20,850 We can say, yes, it's going to cost you X to have it in there for one day, for two days with an operator. 1477 02:47:21,390 --> 02:47:24,480 And, you know, this is not prohibitively expensive. 1478 02:47:25,050 --> 02:47:33,990 obviously, the more the systems get spread around the world, hopefully the different institutions will be able to detach. 1479 02:47:33,990 --> 02:47:40,980 I mean, like John does a lot on his detach the head and put it on a tripod and use it as a portable system. 1480 02:47:41,250 --> 02:47:44,250 So, um, it's actually functioning in different ways. 1481 02:47:44,880 --> 02:47:56,730 I on a personal level, I'm incredibly happy to see, um, the focus not just on cultural objects, but also on natural objects. 1482 02:47:56,730 --> 02:48:04,320 So I think where the recording of fossils, um, you know, I mean, John knows I get very overexcited. 1483 02:48:04,680 --> 02:48:11,250 But when I saw these images coming through of what you could see on the fossil with and without colour, 1484 02:48:11,970 --> 02:48:18,299 and how suddenly the whole detail of the wasp's legs and everything else comes up 1485 02:48:18,300 --> 02:48:27,840 and now we're working in Madrid with the Museo Nacional de Ciencias Naturales and with Natural History Museum here 1486 02:48:27,840 --> 02:48:33,600 I hope we have, I mean Factum put in the Diplodocus, with Keith who is here too 1487 02:48:33,600 --> 02:48:41,940 and, the big bronze one, and I really hope we can use some of these technologies to show when you get 1488 02:48:41,940 --> 02:48:48,300 groups of people who are really communicating what can be achieved and how. 1489 02:48:49,770 --> 02:48:54,450 Culture and nature technology suddenly build a polytechnic world 1490 02:48:54,600 --> 02:49:03,180 that's incredibly exciting. And I hope in a way, the things that I feel in the room today is there's a real interest. 1491 02:49:03,810 --> 02:49:08,970 And this isn't just a dry conversation about some academic footnote 1492 02:49:09,630 --> 02:49:16,920 this feels much more like a revolution in thinking of objects as material evidence. 1493 02:49:17,310 --> 02:49:21,330 And so the question this morning about forensics, you know, 1494 02:49:21,330 --> 02:49:30,180 can we do this in more and more forensically accurate ways is obviously something we're all trying to do. 1495 02:49:30,690 --> 02:49:39,300 And can we go smaller and smaller? And the insect I showed you is about a centimetre, maybe one and a half 1496 02:49:39,870 --> 02:49:46,470 but we've got a whole case of mosquitoes from the Natural History Museum in Madrid. 1497 02:49:46,980 --> 02:49:52,770 And we're desperately trying to do those with magnifying lenses 1498 02:49:53,340 --> 02:50:03,329 and it would be wonderful to go microscopic. So I think for the next phase, which I think I'm allowed to, to say now is has again, 1499 02:50:03,330 --> 02:50:07,800 very generously been supported by the Helen Hamlyn Trust 1500 02:50:08,160 --> 02:50:17,550 we're moving into investigations, both in the software, both in the software to access the data 1501 02:50:17,670 --> 02:50:26,070 and in different hardware developments, which will hopefully result in very fast systems for recording insects. 1502 02:50:26,730 --> 02:50:29,850 I mean, many, as John pointed out a couple of times, 1503 02:50:30,300 --> 02:50:40,470 the photogrammetry can be quite time consuming both in the recording and the processing, whereas the Selene has got it down to a few seconds. 1504 02:50:41,220 --> 02:50:46,580 But if we can get the recording of insects, tiny insects down 1505 02:50:48,750 --> 02:50:52,830 probably 20 minutes an insect and there's 2 billion of them, 1506 02:50:53,490 --> 02:51:02,000 then you just have to do the sums; how many systems can each system, each operator, operate 3 or 4 systems. 1507 02:51:02,000 --> 02:51:06,640 So they put an insect in place, press the button, go to the next one, put it in place 1508 02:51:06,660 --> 02:51:10,770 but you get multiple recordings at high resolution. 1509 02:51:10,770 --> 02:51:15,040 And then of course, it's all about machine learning. 1510 02:51:15,370 --> 02:51:23,680 it's all about how you analyse the data, what you can do with it, how you process it, how you cross-linked it, 1511 02:51:23,920 --> 02:51:37,030 how you basically find connections that make that data mean different things in different contexts, how new meanings get generated by doing this. 1512 02:51:37,820 --> 02:51:41,560 So I mean, really, thank you all very much for coming. 1513 02:51:42,070 --> 02:51:47,110 thank you all for the feeling that I can pick up in this room. 1514 02:51:47,530 --> 02:51:55,810 And I just like, I think if I got a; I'd just like to say a big thank you to the Helen Hamlyn Trust.