1 00:00:15,810 --> 00:00:27,040 I'm Gill Aitken and I'm Oxford University's registrar, and it's 100 years since degrees were first awarded to women at Oxford. 2 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:36,730 I'm here to tell you a story. It's not explicitly about women's degrees at Oxford, but it is a story about education. 3 00:00:36,730 --> 00:00:41,260 The expectations we set ourselves and have set for us. 4 00:00:41,260 --> 00:00:49,840 And most of all, it's about confidence. Because I'm interested not just in the last hundred years of education at Oxford, 5 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:58,500 but I'm interested in how women are going to embrace education and gain that confidence in the future to. 6 00:00:58,500 --> 00:01:05,760 It's a story of how far we have already come. And it's a story about Pamela Brailsford. 7 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,780 She was. She's my mother. She was bright. 8 00:01:09,780 --> 00:01:15,660 She was curious. And she was encouraged at home. Her mother had been a pupil teacher. 9 00:01:15,660 --> 00:01:26,460 So she had qualified as a teacher through through partly teaching and partly learning in a village school in in Cheshire. 10 00:01:26,460 --> 00:01:33,000 My mother studied as a reasonable school in London and she wanted to go to university. 11 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:41,340 She really wants to go to university. She wanted to read history. The school thought differently. 12 00:01:41,340 --> 00:01:53,710 They thought she was sporty and therefore it would be much more appropriate if she took a teacher training course and became a sports teacher. 13 00:01:53,710 --> 00:02:07,350 She thought about it. She ignored it, and she applied to read history at Bedford College, London, which is indeed what she ultimately did. 14 00:02:07,350 --> 00:02:11,760 She loved it. She was perfect for a university life. 15 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,540 She lived at home as many young women in those days would. 16 00:02:15,540 --> 00:02:27,150 We're talking about the very early 1950s. She thought she would like to go on from history to law, that she was again discouraged. 17 00:02:27,150 --> 00:02:32,910 I think she may have been discouraged by my grandparents as well as by any careers adviser, 18 00:02:32,910 --> 00:02:38,610 because you had to pay in those days to get her to get her to pay a premium to be trained. 19 00:02:38,610 --> 00:02:43,790 And so it wouldn't have involved outlay by her parents. 20 00:02:43,790 --> 00:02:45,930 That wouldn't have been possible. 21 00:02:45,930 --> 00:02:58,110 Instead of going on to law, she joined what was a social prototype of what is now called the far stream for the civil service. 22 00:02:58,110 --> 00:03:03,540 She became an Inland Revenue tax inspector trainee. 23 00:03:03,540 --> 00:03:07,440 It was quite an elite thing to be chosen to do. 24 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:15,990 It was a superb training, she tells. She told stories of meeting sex workers in Soho and trying to persuade them to pay tax. 25 00:03:15,990 --> 00:03:18,390 I'm not quite sure how that went. 26 00:03:18,390 --> 00:03:26,670 Other than the fact that she made friends with several of them and we revisited them ourselves when we were young children. 27 00:03:26,670 --> 00:03:33,960 She had a superb training, as I said. She really thought that she had a career there and she was very happy in the civil 28 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:39,240 service and indeed could have moved on from being a tax inspector had she wanted to. 29 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:48,620 But in 1955, she got engaged. She got engaged to my father, who she'd met at university and. 30 00:03:48,620 --> 00:03:56,250 She wasn't sacked, but she was required to resign. 31 00:03:56,250 --> 00:04:01,800 She got married. She became a wife. 32 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:08,840 She became a mother. I turned up. What happened to me? 33 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:15,350 I also went to a reasonable school and had lots of encouragement at home, like my mother, I was curious. 34 00:04:15,350 --> 00:04:20,480 I was bright. I wanted to go to university. This time round, it was different. 35 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:27,590 Very different. In fact, I was actively encouraged to apply to Oxford and indeed came to Oxford. 36 00:04:27,590 --> 00:04:33,410 Studied philosophy and theology at cinches. I loved it. 37 00:04:33,410 --> 00:04:40,280 I had a sense as a students at Oxford that I could do next whatever I chose. 38 00:04:40,280 --> 00:04:46,550 There was no question that I shouldn't think about my own choices. 39 00:04:46,550 --> 00:04:51,410 I shouldn't go for the things that I thought would make me thrive. 40 00:04:51,410 --> 00:05:03,710 I chose law. That subject. But my mother wished she chosen perhaps I partly chose it because she hadn't had that opportunity early in my career. 41 00:05:03,710 --> 00:05:08,840 I was told I would only succeed if I were better than the men. 42 00:05:08,840 --> 00:05:13,280 I was never told what better than the men meant. It was never defined in any way. 43 00:05:13,280 --> 00:05:19,900 I had no idea whether it was about being a brilliant lawyer or about being a very helpful person, 44 00:05:19,900 --> 00:05:25,580 to being able to make my clients achieve that their goals other than through law. 45 00:05:25,580 --> 00:05:29,870 I had absolutely no idea. I sort of ignored it. 46 00:05:29,870 --> 00:05:38,350 I had a great early career as a pharmaceutical lawyer in the city and then moved to the civil service. 47 00:05:38,350 --> 00:05:50,160 One thing, the buzz of politics, the being close to policymaking as a lawyer, designing legal policy. 48 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:56,400 A few decades later, I found myself at board level in the civil service. 49 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:03,270 Indeed, I found myself as a director general and the head of law in, you've guessed it, the Inland Revenue. 50 00:06:03,270 --> 00:06:10,130 Now called HMRC. Sixty years after that forced resignation, 51 00:06:10,130 --> 00:06:17,030 she could see her daughter at board level in the organisation that had first of all, she remembered it well. 52 00:06:17,030 --> 00:06:24,900 Given her a superb training, but it also required her to resign. 53 00:06:24,900 --> 00:06:33,960 What can we learn from stories like this? What can we learn from our mothers experience when we compare it to our own? 54 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:41,190 First, I think primarily of how my mother and I how similar we are. 55 00:06:41,190 --> 00:06:46,530 We both were curious. We had a love of learning. Education meant a great deal to us. 56 00:06:46,530 --> 00:06:57,390 We were both determined. We were both people who wanted a career, were prepared to put a great deal into that career. 57 00:06:57,390 --> 00:07:03,010 How were we different? What made her trajectory so different from mine? 58 00:07:03,010 --> 00:07:10,600 I think it was that there was a lack of aspiration and belief in women in the mid 20th century. 59 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:19,620 I think that's affected the people around them. The people who dreamt up that rule want to ask some questions about that rule. 60 00:07:19,620 --> 00:07:26,040 Later. But it also affected their own aspiration. 61 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:35,280 My mother accepted that she had to resign. And later she accepted that she wasn't going to have the type of career that I hope everybody, 62 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:41,460 everybody coming up now through university and who has come through university in the last 50 years. 63 00:07:41,460 --> 00:07:45,300 Let's say that she didn't expect it for herself. 64 00:07:45,300 --> 00:07:51,990 She thought it was okay, that she should be primarily a wife and a mother. 65 00:07:51,990 --> 00:07:57,330 She did a degree in her 50s, a master's degree in history. 66 00:07:57,330 --> 00:08:03,570 She took on all sorts of roles that required education, that required intelligence. 67 00:08:03,570 --> 00:08:13,830 She did all sorts of things to stretch herself. But she kept that identity as being primarily a wife and a mother. 68 00:08:13,830 --> 00:08:24,430 Why was there that resignation, Rue? As it happened, it still existed less than 10 years before I came to Oxford. 69 00:08:24,430 --> 00:08:30,600 It still existed in the Foreign Office, for example, in the mid 1970s. 70 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,590 If you were a fly on the wall in the committee room that discuss that rule, 71 00:08:34,590 --> 00:08:39,180 perhaps invented it or maybe reviewed it to see whether it should continue. 72 00:08:39,180 --> 00:08:42,570 What would you have heard? Well, it would only have been men. 73 00:08:42,570 --> 00:08:56,160 I think in that room and I assume that they would have talked about the importance of of of the culture, the importance of the hard work ethic, 74 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:05,010 the fact that women might be distracted by that other parts of their lives if they were allowed to get to senior positions. 75 00:09:05,010 --> 00:09:10,260 Was it fear? Is that what underlay it? Was it fear that the women might be better? 76 00:09:10,260 --> 00:09:19,110 Was it a concern that the culture of the workplace somehow might be feminised and that wouldn't be such fun? 77 00:09:19,110 --> 00:09:29,480 Who knows? But what I do know is that the expectations on women in the mid 20th century are so much less than they are now. 78 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:36,860 Now we have fabulous role models. Women achieve things in every sphere of life. 79 00:09:36,860 --> 00:09:43,620 We get excellent results in universities. But I ask. 80 00:09:43,620 --> 00:09:50,850 As we think of 100 years of degrees at Oxford, I'm thinking beyond that, what does the future hold? 81 00:09:50,850 --> 00:09:59,860 Are our expectations now still held back? Are our expectations as demanding as our intelligence? 82 00:09:59,860 --> 00:10:06,580 Are they as demanding as our curiosity and our determination warns? 83 00:10:06,580 --> 00:10:13,246 What do you think? What's your story? Thank you.