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So a question from Rob, from falling from the floor.

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So you talked about the frozen subsystem boundaries in aerospace decades without disruption has persistent government subsidy of their home country.

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Aerospace companies contributed to the big freeze. So I think I mean, the difficulty in aerospace is the distance from the original ideas.

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To bring it into products is so large, so you can't do that without subsidy.

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It's not. It's not the same as doing a tech start-up in your back bedroom, you know, so you've got to do some form of subsidies.

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I think what is attractive governments is gearing up and funding gearing.

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And so if I might, my knowledge is the British government.

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They they require 50 percent gearing.

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Now, as soon as you do that, the companies who can provide the gearing get the funding from government and that does bias it towards the status quo.

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It does. It does. But I do think it's important to fund these the aerospace sector.

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If you don't, then you won't have an aerospace sector nicer much now.

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So the other thing is that we've heard, I mean,

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the last few days and we know from the press there's a lot of significant policy developments, both here in the UK and in the US and the US.

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They passed this this U.S. Innovation Competition Act decisions being made about how to spend huge amounts of money

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on science technology in the UK about to publish the innovation strategy and confront some major spending review.

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So I guess just to end the Q&A because we don't have much time.

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What's the one thing you would advise governments to kind of in times what one thing could they do in

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the near term to help unlock our ability to to do more in this to better mobilise the partnership?

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So I'll start first with Dalton and with Rob. That's that's a great question.

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Thomas,

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I happened to be on tickers at the President Council of Science of Advisors on Science and Technology when we essentially advised the government,

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select your priorities and invest money in those priorities. Make sure that it's good and fast.

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It's executed in agile manner and not the usual government type of undertaking.

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When it takes a year to select, it takes in about a year to even allocate the money in three years to get some results.

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We did emphasise agility, and I think Rob was talking about it very nicely,

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breaking the silence and focussing on agility and less regulatory matters related to research.

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I think what we see in the U.S. government spent spending spending agencies of Fed

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research supporting agencies is a little bit to regulation and too much regulation,

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very, very long process from the submission of proposals to the allocation of money.

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So this has the collapse, and I will not again emphasise that everybody which I discuss at the very beginning,

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very briefly, this was in the making for a number of years.

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So this is really, really a high time for us to have this organisation and fully launch and deploy because if our goal is successful,

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we all will be successful because we all know and it has been emphasised by a number of speakers how important it is to

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bring the multidisciplinary communities together and actually work on those giant huge problems facing the society.

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And Rob, last word on this. OK, so focus is key.

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Resources are limited, and the real problem is, is government prepared to have good taste?

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You know, you've you you if you go through it, if you try and spread it thinly,

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if you try and go through peer review, you're going to go for relatively low risk projects.

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You cannot have much impact. So you've got to you've got you've got to who are you going to trust to tonight, that good taste.

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And I think that is the key challenge. Once the money's given, you need to be clear about objectives.

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You've got to be prepared to cut projects that they're not working, but you've got to take your hands off deliverable and miles.

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As I go on about, we'll just fix you on one path and that that will doom a project to failure.

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Great. Well, thank you very much by both of you for the really interesting keynotes.

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I think that really helped set up the discussions in the breakouts.