1 00:00:00,090 --> 00:00:07,860 [Auto-generated transcript. Edits may have been applied for clarity.] Hi everyone! My name is Teresa Best and I'm a scholar in medieval literature, mostly concentrating on German medieval literature, 2 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:16,259 and I also work on fantasy literature and doing a project at the University of Sweden where I'm based on the popular Middle Ages, 3 00:00:16,260 --> 00:00:19,410 where I'm one of two principal investigators, 4 00:00:19,710 --> 00:00:27,630 yet researching how medieval literature is adapted in fantasy and is transformed in recent fantasy literature. 5 00:00:35,050 --> 00:00:40,540 As a literary scholar. The answer, uh, is very boring at first, Mavi says. 6 00:00:40,780 --> 00:00:44,200 I would say fantasy is first and foremost a literary genre. 7 00:00:44,650 --> 00:00:49,030 But what is so special about fantasy is its world building. 8 00:00:49,030 --> 00:01:00,790 So the secondary worlds that are created and that are so complex, so rich with different cultures, different languages, different ethics and so on. 9 00:01:00,790 --> 00:01:13,300 So to invent such a complex, three dimensional and detailed world is what is the most fascinating thing about fantasy for me. 10 00:01:19,690 --> 00:01:27,129 Yeah. Being in Oxford. Uh, I, I have to, uh, single out Tolkien because I think, uh, 11 00:01:27,130 --> 00:01:37,750 the novels and all the literary works of J.R.R. Tolkien are really unprecedented for fantasy, and they shape the genre in an unprecedented way. 12 00:01:37,750 --> 00:01:42,670 And if we actually think about it, it would be highly unlikely that, uh, 13 00:01:42,670 --> 00:01:52,350 such complex novels written by an Oxford man and an Oxford scholar on Old Norse and Old English literature would become this popular. 14 00:01:52,630 --> 00:01:59,050 This would be highly unlikely. So maybe this Tolkien, and maybe to name a second one, is William Morris. 15 00:01:59,890 --> 00:02:08,590 Maybe not so much, uh, based on his literary work, which was influential for Tolkien, of course, and his companions at the inklings. 16 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:09,819 But, uh, 17 00:02:09,820 --> 00:02:19,540 I think William Morris is important for fantasy because of his aesthetics that he and the Pre-Raphaelites and the Arts and Crafts movement developed. 18 00:02:19,540 --> 00:02:31,120 And so bringing some kind of these kinds of medieval decorations into fantasy and into book printing is something that is very special, 19 00:02:31,150 --> 00:02:34,600 um, for fantasy. And this makes William Morris so special. 20 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:42,309 And when you look around in England, all of his patterns and, um, everything he produced is nearly everywhere. 21 00:02:42,310 --> 00:02:46,840 So he's very popular as well and therefore so influential, I think. 22 00:02:53,020 --> 00:02:58,870 When you're a literary literary scholar, there is such a few time to read for your own pleasure. 23 00:02:58,870 --> 00:03:10,180 And then it's mostly, to be honest, not fantasy. But, uh, what I read in spring, when I was here in Oxford as a fellow at Saint John's, was RFK Babel. 24 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:19,690 And I really like that because it's a totally different kind of fantasy, almost not related to medieval literature or the Middle Ages, 25 00:03:19,690 --> 00:03:31,270 I would say, but it has an interesting mixture of linguistics, academia, as I recently learnt, belonging to the genre of dark academia. 26 00:03:31,690 --> 00:03:41,139 And uh, this is combined with, yeah, some interesting perspective on postcolonial issues and also a bit of revolution. 27 00:03:41,140 --> 00:03:46,690 And so even though it's an ending that you wouldn't expect, uh, I would recommend that. 28 00:03:46,690 --> 00:03:54,910 And it's also nice for someone who's interested in Oxford, even though Oxford is, uh, to some extent fictitious. 29 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:09,179 Maybe not so much have concrete thoughts, but a lot of questions that I ask myself on where the genre is heading. 30 00:04:09,180 --> 00:04:16,810 And maybe I would predict that this trend of transmedia expansion is will be going on for a while. 31 00:04:16,830 --> 00:04:23,280 I think there are so many prequels in production right now that I'm not so confident, 32 00:04:23,280 --> 00:04:28,049 to be honest, that this fantasy hype will last for very long time. 33 00:04:28,050 --> 00:04:39,000 From now on. I think it might be. There might be a point where this expansion of the world is becoming a bit dull or even harder to invent, 34 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:45,149 something that is really new, and that could tell people something new about the world they know so well. 35 00:04:45,150 --> 00:04:51,870 And so maybe this the trend will last for bit of time, but, um, maybe not forever. 36 00:04:51,870 --> 00:04:59,159 And but the interesting thing is to see how fantasy is developing its neo medieval aesthetics, 37 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:10,770 what happens with the popular Middle Ages that we find in fantasy, and how is fantasy reacting to appropriations that are there from far right? 38 00:05:10,770 --> 00:05:17,520 For example, how do they cope with this go vote, go broke theme and issue? 39 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:27,059 And this will be an interesting thing also, I think for um, for cultural studies in general to see how these things are developing. 40 00:05:27,060 --> 00:05:35,190 And so a lot of questions and maybe we should look at that in, uh, five years or ten years and see what, uh, what it turned out to be. 41 00:05:42,050 --> 00:05:51,110 At first, when I started working on fantasy literature, the focus was very much on fantasy coming from medieval literature. 42 00:05:51,110 --> 00:06:01,040 And, um. Yeah, you're always very trained to look at structures, motives, motivation of events and plots and so on. 43 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:10,940 And so there are a lot of things I recognise, um, when, for example, historical characters are mentioned or motives, 44 00:06:10,970 --> 00:06:17,600 um, are there that can be recognised because they, they are known from medieval literature or known from texts. 45 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:30,559 I know to some point very well. And so, um, this gives me another perspective, I think, on, um, on the fantasy literature and to some extent maybe, 46 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:38,270 uh, hinders me to feel this very immersive feeling that maybe other fans are experiencing with fantasy. 47 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:43,220 But the really interesting thing is that I wouldn't have predicted in the first place, 48 00:06:43,220 --> 00:06:52,610 is that fantasy literature always influences my reading of medieval literature, because you see that some things aren't so modern at all. 49 00:06:52,610 --> 00:06:58,040 So, for example, surreality or worldbuilding, transmedia expansion. 50 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:02,839 These are all things that we to some extent can observe in medieval literature. 51 00:07:02,840 --> 00:07:08,030 And even though we cannot say that there's a direct influence backwards. 52 00:07:08,030 --> 00:07:15,469 But, um, this helps to get a new focus in research and to understand this medieval texts in another way, 53 00:07:15,470 --> 00:07:21,980 which is very interesting and creates new insights every now and again when you reread texts. 54 00:07:29,740 --> 00:07:34,960 The most popular example may be why it's The Ones and Future King. 55 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:44,170 Because we have these additions that are full of decorations and decorated title pages, 56 00:07:44,740 --> 00:07:54,280 which are very much informed by William Morris's Kelmscott Press, and he was influenced by medieval and early modern printing. 57 00:07:54,790 --> 00:08:04,240 Also in other fantasy, we have these initials, these decorated initials that remind us of medieval literature and how it was produced. 58 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:09,850 We have the decorations at the beginnings of chapters or something like that. 59 00:08:10,270 --> 00:08:16,659 So, um, this is something where we find medieval texts in the books. 60 00:08:16,660 --> 00:08:28,090 And, um, what I also had to look at is how our fantasy host fantasy literature state that staging, that it is medieval or neo medieval. 61 00:08:28,540 --> 00:08:31,839 So what is shown on the covers, for example? 62 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:37,690 So we have swords, axes, crowns when we think of Martin for example. 63 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:47,440 So all things that remind us or that tell the people looking at the covers, this is something we relate to Middle Ages. 64 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:52,360 And so this medieval or neo medieval character is put very much to the front. 65 00:08:52,780 --> 00:08:56,499 So it's kind of a technique to advertise fantasy. 66 00:08:56,500 --> 00:09:03,430 And um, this is so interesting because it relates so much to what we think about the Middle Ages. 67 00:09:03,430 --> 00:09:06,520 What is the Middle Ages for us? 68 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:14,559 And so we find Middle Ages or things that remind us of the Middle Ages in the text as well as on the fronts. 69 00:09:14,560 --> 00:09:18,400 And this is was what interested me most in the first place. 70 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:23,590 And so I'm very eager always to see how new special editions are designed.