1 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:11,489 Cool. So when we talked about the the format session, the theme was raising venture capital. 2 00:00:11,490 --> 00:00:16,990 But I was going to paint it more around my own entrepreneurial voyage creating White Star. 3 00:00:16,990 --> 00:00:21,380 And even if you don't think we see creating a VC is an entrepreneurial voyage, definitely is. 4 00:00:21,390 --> 00:00:25,710 It comes with some of the same challenges on fundraising and scraping through. 5 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:31,620 Talk a bit about the macro trends that we're looking at in terms of technology and where we invest and why we think that's interesting. 6 00:00:32,460 --> 00:00:35,460 Talk a bit about DC and why or when you should approach. 7 00:00:35,460 --> 00:00:39,660 We see but also alternative ways of funding your businesses specifically. I'll talk about bootstrapping today. 8 00:00:39,660 --> 00:00:45,660 I know you guys talked about Kickstarter in different session and other ways of crowdfunding and then talk about some case 9 00:00:45,660 --> 00:00:51,720 studies of investments that we've made about how you logically thought through the process of why the investment makes sense. 10 00:00:52,110 --> 00:00:59,010 And hopefully that demystifies a bit of like what goes through your head as we're thinking about writing half a million, 2 million, $5 million checks. 11 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,800 Interactive, please, like raise your hand and ask a question if you wish. 12 00:01:02,820 --> 00:01:06,540 I understand that you guys are shy and don't ask questions, so I might encourage you that at the end. 13 00:01:07,410 --> 00:01:11,160 I'll be around for a little bit after the session anyways if anybody wants to chat one on one. 14 00:01:11,610 --> 00:01:21,930 Cool. So it's interesting that in French and Spanish, venture capital is actually called capital raise go or capital risk. 15 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:29,459 By definition, the asset class is taking somebody's money and investing into a very early stage business with the 16 00:01:29,460 --> 00:01:34,170 assumption that that business will scale and have outsized growth and therefore returns to the investors. 17 00:01:34,830 --> 00:01:41,050 And if you talk to any of the academics who look at the venture capital as an asset class, they'll tell you that's not the case in general. 18 00:01:41,070 --> 00:01:47,670 Venture capital underperforms the S&P 500. So it doesn't actually make up for the risk you're taking and deploying into the asset class. 19 00:01:47,670 --> 00:01:53,069 And yet billions of dollars flow into into venture capital from institutions, 20 00:01:53,070 --> 00:01:56,370 from pension funds, from many of the people that actually created this building. 21 00:01:57,180 --> 00:02:04,710 Why? Because there's actually that chance that the outliers performed so well that they completely changed the portfolio allocation. 22 00:02:05,190 --> 00:02:11,010 It's it's a parallel graph. Effectively, the top quartile funds return the majority of the investment. 23 00:02:11,710 --> 00:02:17,490 Now, when we talk about a venture capital fund to be competitive, you're talking about returning X to your investors. 24 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:24,540 So for X returns over a ten year period, which by definition is not where most VCs have actually performed. 25 00:02:25,590 --> 00:02:32,460 And it's actually been an interesting discussion with us and our own investors about how you think you can go build that that return class. 26 00:02:32,970 --> 00:02:37,830 You have an assumption about failure rate. 50 to 60% of seed funded companies will fail. 27 00:02:38,430 --> 00:02:40,800 So how do you account for those? How many write offs do you take? 28 00:02:42,090 --> 00:02:47,100 You know that one company will likely return the fund and one company will give you the outsized return. 29 00:02:47,550 --> 00:02:54,900 So even within a fund by fund basis, there's a power law as well. And so how do you allocate your time as an investor between the companies that are 30 00:02:55,020 --> 00:02:57,900 doing really well and will actually turn the fund and the ones that are struggling? 31 00:02:58,170 --> 00:03:02,549 And that that's probably the hardest emotional component of investing as a as a VC is spending 32 00:03:02,550 --> 00:03:06,120 time with the ones that are struggling at that point and hopefully turning them around succeed. 33 00:03:08,920 --> 00:03:13,389 So what I think about venture capital, it reminds me of this painting that I saw last year at Art Basel. 34 00:03:13,390 --> 00:03:16,090 I was going to buy it until I saw the price tag, so I just took a picture of it. 35 00:03:17,230 --> 00:03:21,090 It is by definition a risky asset class, and I think it's a combination. 36 00:03:21,100 --> 00:03:27,610 It's actually, for me, the fun part of it, it's a combination of funding capability with what I call bills. 37 00:03:27,610 --> 00:03:36,520 And you translate. And the whole point is when you have conviction in an entrepreneur and an idea back into the level of that ambition, 38 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,899 if I think there's one reason for the failure of many of the start-ups that I interact with is the fact 39 00:03:40,900 --> 00:03:46,900 that the entrepreneur has an ambition but is not willing to ask for the level of funding required for it. 40 00:03:47,530 --> 00:03:51,940 Case in point, I saw an e-commerce company the other day that was raising $300,000 to launch. 41 00:03:52,660 --> 00:03:58,300 $300,000 should be the marketing budget for that company to be able to acquire the users that it needs to scale. 42 00:03:59,380 --> 00:04:05,080 Or a company that wanted to scale out its team across to different geographies that were trying to raise €300,000, 43 00:04:05,740 --> 00:04:11,800 which means that by the time the entrepreneur hired a team, scaled them up, he would have been fundraising almost immediately. 44 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:19,350 On average in Europe, comparing Europe to the US, if you look at Seed series and Series B funding. 45 00:04:20,900 --> 00:04:27,890 The average European company will raise $5 million less and actually have to make that money last for eight months longer. 46 00:04:28,670 --> 00:04:32,209 So in other words, instead of investing in growth and investing in the team, 47 00:04:32,210 --> 00:04:39,800 instead of investing in actually competitive positioning in their ecosystem, they have to be fundraising almost immediately. 48 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:44,240 As soon as they raise a seed round, they have to make that money last longer. 49 00:04:44,570 --> 00:04:50,780 And in a way, because there's actually less source of funding across Europe compared to the states will actually raise less. 50 00:04:51,830 --> 00:04:58,190 So when we went about creating White Star, we had we wanted to bring a bit of this US ethos into the European ecosystem. 51 00:04:58,790 --> 00:05:05,509 As for background, I'm not a finance guy. By background, I went to a business school and stayed away from most of the finance classes. 52 00:05:05,510 --> 00:05:08,240 I took entrepreneurship of venture capital as my major. 53 00:05:09,110 --> 00:05:14,540 I've worked in sci tech companies all my life from a company in the dotcom days that actually went public, 54 00:05:14,540 --> 00:05:19,250 had a 30 billion market cap, 30 billion with a B, and lost 72% in one day. 55 00:05:20,060 --> 00:05:23,690 Awesome to then a very large company called Microsoft. 56 00:05:24,410 --> 00:05:29,870 Then I moved to Europe with Microsoft and join Google early on when we were launching our mobile efforts. 57 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,270 This is before Google Maps even existed. 58 00:05:32,300 --> 00:05:37,420 So think about walking around lost in a city without Google Maps on your device before Android was even launched. 59 00:05:37,430 --> 00:05:44,419 What is now the most prevalent mobile platform around the world? And then I spent the last four and a bit years leading our international 60 00:05:44,420 --> 00:05:48,620 expansion for Facebook in Europe and what I loved about the Facebook experience. 61 00:05:48,950 --> 00:05:53,540 So you had all these companies building on top of Facebook using the social graph to to accelerate their growth. 62 00:05:54,470 --> 00:05:57,410 And it took them two years to create my job, two years in it, 63 00:05:57,410 --> 00:06:02,840 four in which they had an internal debate about the need to have somebody in Europe supporting the local developer ecosystem. 64 00:06:03,350 --> 00:06:07,250 They felt that all the start-ups would just come to the valley and they could service them from there. 65 00:06:08,450 --> 00:06:10,400 So I'm pretty happy that by the time I left Facebook, 66 00:06:10,670 --> 00:06:16,610 the largest gaming company on top of Facebook income is London based, while technically Dublin based for tax reasons. 67 00:06:17,330 --> 00:06:22,490 The largest music partners for Facebook are Spotify and Deezer, French and Swedish companies. 68 00:06:22,910 --> 00:06:26,660 The largest media partnership that we ever did was actually with the BBC for the Olympics, 69 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:31,550 bigger than the NBC partnership, despite the fact the US is much, much bigger. 70 00:06:31,970 --> 00:06:34,310 And all of a sudden the team that was me at the beginning, 71 00:06:34,310 --> 00:06:41,240 back in oh nine is now about 45 people supporting developers and gaming companies and media companies across the region. 72 00:06:41,510 --> 00:06:44,600 And Europe actually has proven that it can build world class companies. 73 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:51,379 We I was at a panel earlier on today with a couple of other investors. Europe has definitely come of age every single month. 74 00:06:51,380 --> 00:06:55,550 For the last 12 months, there's been a European company that has raised over $100 million. 75 00:06:57,650 --> 00:07:02,150 That is definitely something very, very different from five, six, seven years ago. 76 00:07:03,140 --> 00:07:08,660 Over the last year, you look at the exits at a billion plus valuations like these unicorns that people talk about. 77 00:07:08,930 --> 00:07:14,840 Criteo kingdom come at 7 billion. Just eat here in London. 78 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:19,700 Zoopla here in London. Companies that actually are, if you will, on the top echelon, 79 00:07:19,700 --> 00:07:26,990 definitely top 10% of global valuations for start up companies that started across the region in the last five, six, seven years. 80 00:07:27,710 --> 00:07:33,590 And I think that you the acceleration is only continuing as more companies go public, more of you have an aspiration to be entrepreneurs. 81 00:07:33,590 --> 00:07:39,920 More people like me and my old guys become angel investors than people create funds like ours to support them. 82 00:07:40,460 --> 00:07:45,680 Those companies go out and have exits and the money flows back and it's a virtuous cycle, or hopefully that's the way that will work.