1 00:00:00,870 --> 00:00:10,350 I'm sorry, social science. I like to introduce this new law to my constable of the candidate in the Department of Asian Languages and Cultures. 2 00:00:10,350 --> 00:00:17,970 UCLA research focuses on how to cope, rejected an adapted method for life in China. 3 00:00:17,970 --> 00:00:27,510 Use Asian word rock focussing on the work of the Monk, the Darwin programme and the so-called earliest school before coming to UCLA. 4 00:00:27,510 --> 00:00:35,880 He University of Tokyo University in Taiwan Oberlin College is published little articles in Purity journals, 5 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:51,630 including a chapter in the forthcoming volume Tidal two miles from the University of Hawaii. 6 00:00:51,630 --> 00:00:58,410 Thank you so much for the introduction. Can you all hear me? OK, wonderful. 7 00:00:58,410 --> 00:01:07,350 OK, well, good morning from Los Angeles. I wanted to first thank everyone for all the effort in organising the conference. 8 00:01:07,350 --> 00:01:12,240 I wanted to especially thank Professor Osborne for encouraging me to apply to the conference. 9 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,460 He's been a friend and mentor of mine for many years, 10 00:01:15,460 --> 00:01:22,740 and if you know anyone who happens to be looking for a professor of Buddhist studies, I know of no one better. 11 00:01:22,740 --> 00:01:26,850 I'm devastated that I couldn't be there in person. 12 00:01:26,850 --> 00:01:33,930 I had to make the difficult decision because of COVID and long travel time that it will be best to present remotely. 13 00:01:33,930 --> 00:01:45,090 But I'm trying my best to simulate being there. I have my Oxford shirt on and I have a cup of Yorkshire Tea, so I'm ready to go. 14 00:01:45,090 --> 00:01:51,300 So I know we're running a little late. My presentation, I hope it'll be OK. 15 00:01:51,300 --> 00:01:57,540 Time wise, may run a little bit over, so let me begin sharing the screen. 16 00:01:57,540 --> 00:02:03,560 Oh, goodness, sorry. One more try. 17 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:16,470 You might see some, some notes on the screen for a second. So I think you can see my screen and now you should be able to see my presentation. 18 00:02:16,470 --> 00:02:21,550 We got the OK. Wonderful. OK. Well, 19 00:02:21,550 --> 00:02:27,340 it's been so the title of my talk today is partially in accord with the greater 20 00:02:27,340 --> 00:02:33,190 vehicle reading the four part Vinaya as a Mahayana text and discussions commentaries, 21 00:02:33,190 --> 00:02:40,660 although the conference is about reading Mahayana texts. Today, I'm actually going to be talking about reading non-major on a text. 22 00:02:40,660 --> 00:02:50,170 As an aside, I think the term non Mahayana or non Mahayana Buddhism is a better alternative to terms like mainstream Buddhism or a lesser vehicle. 23 00:02:50,170 --> 00:02:53,230 Buddhism found in some textbooks because, to my mind, 24 00:02:53,230 --> 00:03:03,220 both the terms mainstream and lesser vehicles seem to imply a sort of value judgement about the Mahayana as either being not part of the mainstream. 25 00:03:03,220 --> 00:03:08,470 It was certainly mainstream in East Asia or about the non Mahayana as being somehow 26 00:03:08,470 --> 00:03:14,320 lesser certainly is not seen that way in countries like Sri Lanka or Burma. 27 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:24,360 Nevertheless, I may have the occasion to use the term lesser vehicle as this is the term we found in the text I am working with. 28 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:30,810 Well, these texts are traditionally understood to be non-melanoma or lesser vehicle text in China in the 7th century, 29 00:03:30,810 --> 00:03:35,310 about two centuries after they were translated, a Chinese monk named Dushan, 30 00:03:35,310 --> 00:03:41,880 well known as a scholar of these monastic rule books, argued that one of these texts, specifically the four part video, 31 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:48,990 was partially in accord with the greater vehicle or fund Hongkong for reasons I will explain in a minute. 32 00:03:48,990 --> 00:03:57,780 First, my presentation will explain not only in what sense it meant for these monastic rules to be partially in accord with the greater vehicle. 33 00:03:57,780 --> 00:04:03,630 But more broadly, I hoped that by illustrating what it meant to be sort of, but not quite Mahayana, 34 00:04:03,630 --> 00:04:11,790 we might be able to understand what it meant to be really Mahayana, or at least to Buddhism 7th century China. 35 00:04:11,790 --> 00:04:22,530 And through this contrast between Mahayana and partial Mahayana, we can understand something about Buddhism or religion or whatever. 36 00:04:22,530 --> 00:04:30,240 So in particular, I argue that doctrine came to this conclusion through a strong reading of his text and 37 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,620 was thus doing some of the same hermeneutic work as many other Buddhist thinkers, 38 00:04:34,620 --> 00:04:38,760 scholars and even poets from his time and beyond. 39 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:46,620 Furthermore, I hope to show that this strong reading was motivated by notions of orthodoxy, continuity and conscience. 40 00:04:46,620 --> 00:04:55,700 Three themes I will explain in a minute. So two, so firstly, to discuss the place of the Vinaya texts and Chinese Buddhism, 41 00:04:55,700 --> 00:05:01,880 then I'll discuss how the Russian understood the four part of India as being partially in accord with the greater vehicle. 42 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:06,890 Then I'll explain how this reading can be understood as a strong reading of the veneer. 43 00:05:06,890 --> 00:05:15,350 And then I'll explain why Dilshan thought might have promoted the strong reading before coming to some conclusions. 44 00:05:15,350 --> 00:05:23,450 So as to kind of my overall point for this. This presentation is that I think we need to incorporate discussion of the 45 00:05:23,450 --> 00:05:28,190 role of monastic rules into a discussion about the Mahayana because rules and 46 00:05:28,190 --> 00:05:32,990 morality are essential but often overlooked part of Buddhism that may reflect 47 00:05:32,990 --> 00:05:38,380 some central concerns of the tradition in a way that other texts simply don't. 48 00:05:38,380 --> 00:05:44,220 OK, so let's begin. So the place of the four part of India in Chinese Buddhism, 49 00:05:44,220 --> 00:05:53,400 so there are two general categories of Buddhist legal text Vinaya and Bodhisattva precepts. 50 00:05:53,400 --> 00:06:00,300 The Vienna attacks were rules for monastics that include a list of specific rules of what monks should and should not do. 51 00:06:00,300 --> 00:06:04,650 For example, there are the logical rules the most specific the severely punished for rules, 52 00:06:04,650 --> 00:06:12,690 including not having sexual intercourse, theft, etc. Then there are the body for subtext. 53 00:06:12,690 --> 00:06:18,870 For example, the fun one gene, which overlaps partly with the veneer text. 54 00:06:18,870 --> 00:06:25,530 But the majority of the rules have a character of a more general ethical principles to be followed. 55 00:06:25,530 --> 00:06:32,580 For example, the injunctions not to praise oneself and disparage others reflects a more principle based morality, 56 00:06:32,580 --> 00:06:36,960 in contrast to the rule based morality of the veneer tax. 57 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:47,180 And these veneer texts typically are considered more non marciano, whereas these properties offer pre-set text or Y.A. character. 58 00:06:47,180 --> 00:06:52,370 So eventually, text on both these genres are translated into Chinese from Indic languages, 59 00:06:52,370 --> 00:07:03,230 and eventually some appear to have been even created in China for the Vienna attacks, which is what I'm really going to focus on here for foreigners. 60 00:07:03,230 --> 00:07:06,710 Were translated in the early part of the 5th century, 61 00:07:06,710 --> 00:07:12,380 although there are a number of smaller text translated before this and a number of important texts translated after this. 62 00:07:12,380 --> 00:07:18,560 These four are the main text that describe the veneer and the main text that Dilshan wrote about in his work. 63 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,700 So the titles of these for text are the 10 recitations veneer. 64 00:07:22,700 --> 00:07:28,580 The four part of any of them are sung because many are. And the five part FANIA. 65 00:07:28,580 --> 00:07:38,720 And generally speaking, each of these texts is associated with a group or nicoya that is thought to have had their own separate ordination lineage. 66 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:52,050 So, for example, we have this rustic bar to the Dharma Gupta, my son, Mysore Asika McHugh's, that are associated with each of these texts. 67 00:07:52,050 --> 00:07:55,640 So that sort of have their own separate ordination age. 68 00:07:55,640 --> 00:08:04,590 There was and but and the rules are largely similar in content, but varied from one another widely in the details. 69 00:08:04,590 --> 00:08:09,540 OK, so although several of these texts were used in China by the 7th century, 70 00:08:09,540 --> 00:08:18,240 the four part veneer or the veneer of the Dharma Group, the Makhaya became the most widely used and studied throughout China. 71 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:24,810 So that's why we're focussing on it here. Again, normally we think of these new guys as being on Mahayana groups. 72 00:08:24,810 --> 00:08:30,630 But the preface to the translated for part of India describes the translator of this text. 73 00:08:30,630 --> 00:08:35,610 So the four part of India and the Dharma Gupta and I remember that the same thing 74 00:08:35,610 --> 00:08:39,960 describes the translator of this text named Buddha Arceus as a Dharma Gupta. 75 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:50,850 Come on a trip to talk us from China. So this preface appears to mostly just be an epithet and was likely written after the text was translated, 76 00:08:50,850 --> 00:08:56,180 so may not represent any actual title that variations have. 77 00:08:56,180 --> 00:09:06,980 But in a travelogue from the famous Chinese pilgrims, friends on, we see a connexion between the Dharma Gupta and the Mahayana, 78 00:09:06,980 --> 00:09:13,280 he writes that there were Dharma Gupta shows in the country of Odierno, which is here, 79 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:18,680 and the people reverently believe in the Mayan monk study of Mahayana teachings. 80 00:09:18,680 --> 00:09:26,690 But there are five traditions of the venire rules and practise, including the Dharma Gupta Ka, et cetera. 81 00:09:26,690 --> 00:09:32,150 So although this record comes from about a century and a half after the texts were translated and might 82 00:09:32,150 --> 00:09:38,660 represent a slightly different situation on the ground from the one in which these texts originally developed, 83 00:09:38,660 --> 00:09:49,520 it appears that at least that in the audience. And one could follow the Vinaya and also the Mahayana with no apparent conflict. 84 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:56,270 In other words, it appears that the practise of the great the the sort of connexion between the 85 00:09:56,270 --> 00:10:03,920 great vehicle and the practise of the vineyard didn't need to be argued for. 86 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,900 In contrast, in China, 87 00:10:05,900 --> 00:10:14,100 most Chinese Buddhists regarded the Vinaya as a lesser vehicle text and appeared to associate the practise of the veneer with the lesser vehicle. 88 00:10:14,100 --> 00:10:19,550 Also, for example, in scriptural catalogues, we have this lead Ihsan Belge, 89 00:10:19,550 --> 00:10:25,670 where a Chang Fong, the author, categorises all these texts as being a lesser vehicle veneer. 90 00:10:25,670 --> 00:10:28,970 Similarly, Dodgson himself in his own catalogue, 91 00:10:28,970 --> 00:10:39,360 even though he argues that it's partially in accord with the Mahayana also catalogue categorises these texts as lesser vehicle many attacks. 92 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:47,010 So the question for Chinese seemed to be how exactly do the Vini attacks and by extension, 93 00:10:47,010 --> 00:10:54,340 monastic life regulated by many attacks relate to the the Mahayana? 94 00:10:54,340 --> 00:11:05,320 And that's where we come to the sort of main topic adoptions idea that the four part video is partially in accord with the greater vehicle. 95 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:13,180 OK, so after the translation of these Vienna attacks, there emerge a tradition of commentary and study of these works, 96 00:11:13,180 --> 00:11:19,780 known as the veneer school Chinese needed to study and compare these text in order to understand them. 97 00:11:19,780 --> 00:11:28,300 So they eventually so they develop Twitter essentially textbooks or manuals for monastic practise. 98 00:11:28,300 --> 00:11:35,290 Most famous of these commentators is Dilshan, considered the founder of the Nanshan Veneer School. 99 00:11:35,290 --> 00:11:42,880 There are over 15 excellent works that he wrote on the video, as well as many more than we no longer have. 100 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:52,600 The most important of these is the text known as the Civil Machine Church now, which I'm going to abbreviate as XY. 101 00:11:52,600 --> 00:12:02,560 So change Tao X, I see the title can be translated something like the commentary on conduct and procedure in the four part of India. 102 00:12:02,560 --> 00:12:14,710 So this text is based on the four part veneer, but compares all four videos, as well as many other Buddhist texts organised into 30 thematic chapters. 103 00:12:14,710 --> 00:12:20,200 So in Chapter eight of this text on accepting the precepts, 104 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:25,270 he mentions the idea that the principle of the four part opinion matches the greater vehicle. 105 00:12:25,270 --> 00:12:30,430 So quote question What vehicle is the principle of this teaching? 106 00:12:30,430 --> 00:12:40,130 Does it develop the aims of the greater vehicle? Answer. As for this four part finish school, its meaning matches the greater vehicle. 107 00:12:40,130 --> 00:12:44,690 Continues, the text of the property show the four part of says, 108 00:12:44,690 --> 00:12:50,990 if you want to attain the brutal way for the sake of yourself, then you should respect and emphasise the correct precepts. 109 00:12:50,990 --> 00:12:58,490 And it says transferring this marriage to sentient beings all the time the Buddha Way together, the four part video has many such examples. 110 00:12:58,490 --> 00:13:07,070 OK, so this particular example he uses to explain why he thinks the four part company is in accord with the Mahayana 111 00:13:07,070 --> 00:13:13,850 is actually a paraphrase from the dedication of merit verse from the Prati Moksha over the four parts anyhow. 112 00:13:13,850 --> 00:13:18,320 So the pretty moksha. So I mentioned the translator of these longer veneer rules. 113 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:25,310 The Prati Moksha is the sort of abbreviated version of just the rules that are used without 114 00:13:25,310 --> 00:13:32,660 any additional explanation that are used for these rituals every two weeks to recite them. 115 00:13:32,660 --> 00:13:33,710 And at the end of the ritual, 116 00:13:33,710 --> 00:13:44,300 there's this returning the Meret verse that seems to indicate that because it's the Meret is made for all sentient beings, it's a Mahayana idea. 117 00:13:44,300 --> 00:13:49,730 So I'll come back to this point in a minute. He mentions there's many such examples. 118 00:13:49,730 --> 00:13:57,020 And so. So we see, OK. 119 00:13:57,020 --> 00:14:02,840 The Dutchman argues that the four part figure is an accord in his in his commentary that she should child. 120 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:09,710 But why exactly does he say this in a slightly later work the gym or show or commentary on Carmen Gym, 121 00:14:09,710 --> 00:14:15,350 general show gyms, which is a work on monastic rituals. 122 00:14:15,350 --> 00:14:25,870 He argues that there are five pieces of evidence for being in accord with the video, which are called the rule, if uncombed needs. 123 00:14:25,870 --> 00:14:29,970 So, OK, so five pieces of evidence, so this. 124 00:14:29,970 --> 00:14:34,720 This passage begins. How is it that the four part vanilla is in accord with the Buddha vehicle? 125 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:43,690 The Buddha vehicle means the Mahayana here. So first, because Javier Mala Putra despise being in our heart without need for further training. 126 00:14:43,690 --> 00:14:46,840 We know that he was without steadfastness. 127 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:55,570 Second, because the merit created from reciting the emotion of the four part video is directed toward all sentient beings attaining the Buddha Way. 128 00:14:55,570 --> 00:14:59,680 We know that the rest of the party most attacks do not return merit. 129 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:08,330 Third, because in the four part Fania amongst are addressed as Sons of the Buddha, we know that it is of no other vehicle. 130 00:15:08,330 --> 00:15:13,390 Fourth, because the use of someone's forfeited property is not a grave offence. 131 00:15:13,390 --> 00:15:16,750 We know that the mind is in accord with the greater vehicle. 132 00:15:16,750 --> 00:15:24,880 And fifth, because since objects are not made apparent at the sense organs, we know that consciousness gives them their final meaning. 133 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,640 OK, those don't need any more explanation. So it is. I'm just kidding. 134 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:33,220 OK, so let me return to some of these and give you a little bit of an overview of what these are about. 135 00:15:33,220 --> 00:15:37,480 So they're all very, very terse and require a lot of unpacking to understand. 136 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,390 So if we look at the first of these five, OK, 137 00:15:40,390 --> 00:15:49,810 this is a reference to a story found in the four part Vinnie and also in the poly video about a disciple of the Buddha named Javier Mala Putra. 138 00:15:49,810 --> 00:15:57,840 So Javier Mallacoota. Attained a level, according to the text, attained a level of an hour hot, 139 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:04,680 but realised when seated in meditation that he was not steadfast, and after getting up from meditation, 140 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:09,330 he goes to the booth to suggest that he could perform an offering of strength, 141 00:16:09,330 --> 00:16:18,870 which is in something like physical labour in the form of distributing sleeping materials and food for visiting monks as a way to become more quote, 142 00:16:18,870 --> 00:16:28,770 steadfast. So basically, he argues, to become the manager or the concierge of the monastery. 143 00:16:28,770 --> 00:16:34,650 So Darshan seems to be implying here that because there was a monk who is not steadfast in his attainment 144 00:16:34,650 --> 00:16:40,860 of our hardship and instead wanted to be of service to others rather than focus on his own enlightenment, 145 00:16:40,860 --> 00:16:47,820 this was a manifestation of body the activity, though, of course, the vineyard doesn't say as much. 146 00:16:47,820 --> 00:16:55,320 Specifically, the vineyard doesn't appear to say that he became a monastic manager because he despises our hot status. 147 00:16:55,320 --> 00:17:01,050 Instead, he seems to have maintained his AHA status, even as he was managing these monks. 148 00:17:01,050 --> 00:17:05,820 But this appears to be Dawson's own interpretation or strong reading, 149 00:17:05,820 --> 00:17:12,660 and whether this makes the text in accord with the greater vehicle remains to be seen. 150 00:17:12,660 --> 00:17:18,870 Indeed, the remaining four items of evidence are equally questionable. 151 00:17:18,870 --> 00:17:28,860 The second one is basically the one we just mentioned above where the passage from the property Moksha mentions the term all sentient beings, 152 00:17:28,860 --> 00:17:34,110 and so he believes it's a Mahayana verse. 153 00:17:34,110 --> 00:17:42,360 The third one is maybe the most telling to me, basically in the four part veneer a few times. 154 00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:46,270 It addresses these the monks as sons of the Buddha. 155 00:17:46,270 --> 00:17:56,160 This folds. And although this sense of the Buddha in contrast to the normal way their address, 156 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:07,560 which is bigger so the sons of the Buddha appears only four times and is used in body cipher precepts like the fun one being so it 157 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:15,780 seemed to have indicated that this was somehow that the object of the four part Peneha were these so-called sons of the Buddha. 158 00:18:15,780 --> 00:18:23,340 But it's really just this one word that appears four times in this otherwise very long text. 159 00:18:23,340 --> 00:18:27,930 So those are just the three piece of evidence they wanted to explain today. 160 00:18:27,930 --> 00:18:32,460 The other two are rather complicated, so I won't go into them. 161 00:18:32,460 --> 00:18:40,200 But I think, as you can see, they all seem to be rather selective of what specific evidence he's looking for to 162 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:47,310 claim that the Mahayana was that the four part vanilla was in accord with the Mahayana. 163 00:18:47,310 --> 00:18:53,160 Or, he might say, maybe cherry picked pieces of evidence to make Russians argument. 164 00:18:53,160 --> 00:19:00,660 So that's the point I want to make that Darshan is a strong reader of the veneer. 165 00:19:00,660 --> 00:19:08,130 So this notion of strong reading or a strong reader also known as misreading or mischievous young, 166 00:19:08,130 --> 00:19:15,060 is taken from two books The Anxiety of Influence or a Map and the Map of Misreading by the late professor at Yale. 167 00:19:15,060 --> 00:19:24,090 Harold Bloom. Now, I should say that Harold Bloom is sometimes reviled for his dollarisation of the so-called Western canon, 168 00:19:24,090 --> 00:19:34,890 particularly amongst those of us who don't study the Western canon. Nevertheless, I think these works of literary theory have some lasting value. 169 00:19:34,890 --> 00:19:40,360 So the notion of strong reading is a theory of poetic history, 170 00:19:40,360 --> 00:19:48,240 literary history about how texts and authors influence one another, as he writes in The Anxiety of influence. 171 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:52,350 Poetic history is held to be indistinguishable from poetic influence, 172 00:19:52,350 --> 00:20:00,900 since strong poets make that history by misreading one another so as to clear, imaginative space for themselves. 173 00:20:00,900 --> 00:20:09,240 His theory describes the author of the older text as a precursor or father to the author of a later tanks called an F-5, 174 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:18,990 which is a Greek word for people and his theory. So although the later poet or fib is influenced by his or her precursor, 175 00:20:18,990 --> 00:20:25,050 five also tries to individuate themselves through a process of strong reading. 176 00:20:25,050 --> 00:20:29,340 And I believe that in this sense, that notion can be understood as a strong reader, 177 00:20:29,340 --> 00:20:34,020 and his theory of the four part veneer of being partially in accord with the greater 178 00:20:34,020 --> 00:20:40,260 vehicle and the same pattern can be found in a number of other Buddhist works. 179 00:20:40,260 --> 00:20:50,430 For example, we can understand the founder of the TNT School, Judy's notion of the three truths as developing out of a misreading of Nagarjuna. 180 00:20:50,430 --> 00:20:57,700 This idea of two truths. Similarly, in Japanese Buddhism, Robert Rhodes argues that Shimron, 181 00:20:57,700 --> 00:21:04,060 the founder of the Jodrell Shinshu, deliberately misreads passages from the pure land sutures, 182 00:21:04,060 --> 00:21:13,870 as well as the work of his predecessor, pre-cursor again seem to establish his own view of pure land Buddhism. 183 00:21:13,870 --> 00:21:21,700 So although adoption doesn't quite fit the same pattern, we can still understand him to be the five or student of his precursor. 184 00:21:21,700 --> 00:21:33,670 The four part video as sort of bonus points, Bloom also defined six types of visionary ratios or relationships between the predecessor and the A-fib. 185 00:21:33,670 --> 00:21:43,750 All of these have very strange names, but it seems that outshines misreading could fall into the type of code that he calls ketosis, 186 00:21:43,750 --> 00:21:52,690 which Bloom defines as a movement towards discontinuity with the predecessor sort of discontinuity from the four part veneer, 187 00:21:52,690 --> 00:22:00,520 as opposed to other sorts of relationships such as correcting, completing, complimenting, et cetera. 188 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:07,990 But this point about the revision or ratios is a bit above my pay grade, so I think we'll just leave it there. 189 00:22:07,990 --> 00:22:18,730 OK, so the final point I want to make, I guess, is why exactly did Ashwin make a strong reading? 190 00:22:18,730 --> 00:22:25,040 Why did he argue that the four part veneer was in accord with the greater vehicle? 191 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:34,250 OK, so I think his reasons can be summarised with three main points orthodoxy, continuity and conscience. 192 00:22:34,250 --> 00:22:45,080 So what orthodoxy? I mean the notion that in China, the Mahayana was seen as Orthodox Buddhism, which is sort of this. 193 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:53,570 This is sort of the standard explanation for why Downtrodden argued this point, as can be seen in this quote by Japanese scholar of Buddhism. 194 00:22:53,570 --> 00:23:01,340 Come on the scene here. Essentially, this idea says that because Chinese Buddhism is Mahayana Buddhism, 195 00:23:01,340 --> 00:23:15,790 Tharshan could do no other other than try to explain the veneer as being partially Mahayana in order to promote monastic practise. 196 00:23:15,790 --> 00:23:24,790 However, although Orthodoxy is perhaps one of the main reasons why adoption may have chosen this strong reading of the veneer, 197 00:23:24,790 --> 00:23:31,630 I believe that there are also doctrinal and ideological factors for why this was important to him. 198 00:23:31,630 --> 00:23:39,220 Essentially, this discussion of the four part veneer being in accord with the my honour and both the teachings for Chow and 199 00:23:39,220 --> 00:23:47,080 Jim Warshaw are part of larger discussions of the concept of the essence of the precepts or chitti complicated. 200 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:53,710 But fundamental concepts in East Asian veneer thought the essence of the precepts is basically 201 00:23:53,710 --> 00:23:59,590 the idea that upon going through the ceremony to receive the precepts and become a monk or nun, 202 00:23:59,590 --> 00:24:07,600 there are some sort of essence that the monk or nun received that both made them that made them distinct from laypeople. 203 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:13,600 The essence was also thought to help them uphold and maintain the precepts that they consented to follow. 204 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:19,210 And in this sense, it can be understood as being similar to the notion of a conscience. 205 00:24:19,210 --> 00:24:26,830 That is to say it can be thought about as a moral intuition or an inner guide to right or wrong behaviour, 206 00:24:26,830 --> 00:24:33,520 as suggested in the following passage from the GMO issue. What is the essence of the precepts? 207 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:40,660 Just going to get to the underlined section after accepting the precepts by relying on the essence function arises, 208 00:24:40,660 --> 00:24:51,340 preventing all condition transgression. So I think it's saying that the function of this essence is to prevent transgression. 209 00:24:51,340 --> 00:25:02,050 And in my mind, this is similar to this notion that we have and perhaps Western thought or other theories of morality that ascribe this conscience. 210 00:25:02,050 --> 00:25:11,590 OK, so although this idea of the essence of the princess became particularly important and contentious in East Asia, it has its roots in Indian Army. 211 00:25:11,590 --> 00:25:14,830 Dharma thought this gets into the weeds a little bit, 212 00:25:14,830 --> 00:25:20,200 but doctrine in his Jamiel Shaw describes three different theories of the essence of the precepts. 213 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:28,720 One based on several the teaching and one based on a text known as the Chongjin alone. 214 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:35,860 So the debate around the essence of the research centres on what category of dharma this essence belongs to, 215 00:25:35,860 --> 00:25:40,870 particularly whether it is a dharma of the mind or of the physical body. 216 00:25:40,870 --> 00:25:46,780 The Saraswati violence argued that the essence of the precepts was an invisible physical dharma. 217 00:25:46,780 --> 00:25:54,520 I was not the Yoruba because they argue that the precepts only apply it to physical and verbal actions. 218 00:25:54,520 --> 00:26:03,520 In contrast, those who promoted the four part video argue that the essence of the precepts should be understood as neither physical nor mental, 219 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:14,950 or neither form nor matters that translated it here, and that was considered a partially my on a teaching. 220 00:26:14,950 --> 00:26:25,060 But this was unsatisfying. It seems as though it still didn't explain how this essence of the precepts had any continuity after death. 221 00:26:25,060 --> 00:26:28,090 In the case of the body of a process once accepted, 222 00:26:28,090 --> 00:26:34,510 they were thought to last forever and stayed with you lifetime after lifetime on the bodies of the path. 223 00:26:34,510 --> 00:26:35,270 In contrast, 224 00:26:35,270 --> 00:26:43,060 the non-major on a princess were thought to be lost when the body ends and would not have had the same lasting effect on your spiritual path as, 225 00:26:43,060 --> 00:26:49,640 say, meditative attainment. For this reason, 226 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:59,630 I think Dilshan abortion promotes his own third theory of the essence of the precepts what he calls the complete theory or complete teaching, 227 00:26:59,630 --> 00:27:06,950 which argues that the essence of the precepts is a seed in the ellyatt consciousness described in the yogic are a thought, 228 00:27:06,950 --> 00:27:13,490 as he writes again in the Jim Warshaw question If one argues that this is the correct theory. 229 00:27:13,490 --> 00:27:19,190 How can one say that one's when one's body ends, they lose the precepts? 230 00:27:19,190 --> 00:27:23,240 OK, answer. I'm just going to read the underlying part. 231 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:29,840 The aspiration to become a monk is limited to the body, and when the body comes to an end, the precepts are lost. 232 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:39,530 However, practise follows from this aspiration. Therefore, once one focuses on practise, they are able to give rise to later habituation, later. 233 00:27:39,530 --> 00:27:49,070 Habituation in this case means not only habits in this life, but also fruits that bear out in later lives as well. 234 00:27:49,070 --> 00:27:56,540 So to summarise, we saw that the four part denier is seen as a non Mahayana text, 235 00:27:56,540 --> 00:28:04,400 and China adoption uses these five pieces of evidence to claim that the four part denier is partially Mahayana. 236 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:12,080 I said that this was a strong reading of the veneer, and this was done out of a sense of orthodoxy of the Mahayana in China, 237 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:21,020 as well as to establish a theory of conscience that explains how the merits of monastic practise have continuity after death. 238 00:28:21,020 --> 00:28:27,410 So to conclude? So what does this mean to be partially in accord with the greater vehicle? 239 00:28:27,410 --> 00:28:31,910 What does it mean to read the Vini as sort of, but not quite Mahayana? 240 00:28:31,910 --> 00:28:37,700 And does it matter to the study of Mahayana Buddhism more generally? 241 00:28:37,700 --> 00:28:38,660 Well, it's the doctrine. 242 00:28:38,660 --> 00:28:46,310 The difference between Mahayana and non Marjayoun was not just a matter of a difference between the body's harmful ideal versus the AHA ideal, 243 00:28:46,310 --> 00:28:50,420 but a question of morality of a moral compass and a conscience. 244 00:28:50,420 --> 00:28:59,000 It was a question of how RULE-BASED based morality of the denier versus principle based morality of the a piece precept text could be 245 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:07,640 integrated into a complete theory of monastic practise that worked on the same principles whether you were a monk or a nun or a layperson, 246 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:12,260 or whether you were identified as Mahayana or non-market. 247 00:29:12,260 --> 00:29:18,890 Thus, when we think about the question of what is or isn't Mahayana and what can we learn from my own attacks, 248 00:29:18,890 --> 00:29:26,720 we can't for you to think about texts like the veneer that tell us about how Buddhist thought about how to live and how to conduct their lives. 249 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:33,920 The question that I see is a central concern of Buddhism and religion and philosophy more generally. 250 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:40,190 So through a strong reading of these texts and brought his new vision of Buddhist life to the fore to Dasha. 251 00:29:40,190 --> 00:29:43,880 And this is what the main image of Buddhism that was moral, 252 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:53,000 both in principle and indeed one that assiduously followed the veneer while simultaneously working towards salvation and the benefit of all beings. 253 00:29:53,000 --> 00:30:01,400 So if we squint our eyes, twist our neck and tilt our head, we might be able to see how these Vinny attacks were partially Mahayana. 254 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,790 And through linking conscience to continuity and orthodoxy, 255 00:30:04,790 --> 00:30:14,390 we can see how Townshend sought to create a unified vision of Buddhism and monastic practise with no distinction between Mahayana and Non. 256 00:30:14,390 --> 00:30:17,854 Thank you.