1 00:00:00,030 --> 00:00:04,920 Today, though, it gives me great pleasure to introduce our speaker, James Kidman, from the Foreign Office. 2 00:00:05,700 --> 00:00:09,840 He's worked in office since 1985 and has worked in Southeast Asia. 3 00:00:10,050 --> 00:00:16,350 Balkans, worked on vexed issues, including the Commonwealth expansion of Europe, nuclear proliferation. 4 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,000 He's worked for the leader of the House of Commons and the Prime Minister's Strategy Unit. 5 00:00:21,990 --> 00:00:25,050 He's Deputy Private Secretary for Prince of Wales. His Royal Highness. 6 00:00:25,380 --> 00:00:31,830 In 2007, he set up his own education charity, the Coexist Foundation. 7 00:00:32,490 --> 00:00:37,560 On world honours unseen, richer in a more globalised society. 8 00:00:38,550 --> 00:00:45,030 He works has worked again with the FCO since 2013, with the fourth unit of the diplomatic academy. 9 00:00:45,690 --> 00:00:52,230 And though there are people here involved, engaged and involved in Department Kanimozhi and in 2014, 10 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:58,590 he took up the post of working migrants, which is a member of the senior directing staff at the Royal College of Defence Studies. 11 00:00:59,070 --> 00:01:03,209 We should claim her own. He has both the VA and a from Christchurch. 12 00:01:03,210 --> 00:01:10,050 Oxford. And like me, he lives in Devon. So James, thank you very much for coming in to talk. 13 00:01:10,470 --> 00:01:16,980 And I mean, what you want is to be gentle with you. I'm sure they want to thank you all very much and thank you all for turning up. 14 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:24,019 This sort of introductions always, always paint a picture of someone more interesting than the person you actually get. 15 00:01:24,020 --> 00:01:25,890 So I must apologise in advance for that. 16 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:33,870 You'll see that my corporate loyalties are a bit flexible, and although I'm build on the posters downstairs from the Foreign Office, 17 00:01:34,230 --> 00:01:37,590 I'm currently on secondment, the MSD and the Royal College Defence Studies. 18 00:01:37,590 --> 00:01:41,850 For those who don't know it is the senior college of the Defence Academy. 19 00:01:41,850 --> 00:01:48,300 And I encourage any of you who haven't been there to come and visit splendid offices in Belgrave Square. 20 00:01:48,540 --> 00:01:54,269 And learn a bit more about what we do. It's it's a great privilege. 21 00:01:54,270 --> 00:01:57,480 I said, privileged to be here. It's actually rather nerve wracking to be here, 22 00:01:58,020 --> 00:02:02,940 partly because you see in the front row all these distinguished professors from across Oxford seconds who, 23 00:02:02,940 --> 00:02:09,930 you know, are going to ask penetrating and awkward questions, but more actually because you were offered a sandwich lunch before you got here. 24 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:16,500 I'm always in intensely mistrustful of events that offer blandishments like drinks and sandwiches, 25 00:02:16,860 --> 00:02:22,349 because you know that most of the people who are there actually coming home for the scoff and and then feel 26 00:02:22,350 --> 00:02:29,310 obliged when it comes to Q&A to ask all sorts of awkward and penetrating things in order to deny that charge. 27 00:02:29,610 --> 00:02:35,640 So I would hope that those of you who who have been warned that I'm going to be unsympathetic to that sort of approach, 28 00:02:36,150 --> 00:02:42,600 will will temper down those awkward questions at the end. Let me just. 29 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:52,700 Click to the next slide. This isn't where I'm from. You gather that my corporate loyalties are many, but this is one place that I have never worked. 30 00:02:53,800 --> 00:03:00,410 I'm putting it up there just to remind you that you will get more value out of me if we work under Chatham House rules. 31 00:03:00,770 --> 00:03:06,740 If we don't, and you quote what I say, then I'll have to be rather mealy mouthed and bureaucratic. 32 00:03:07,010 --> 00:03:09,560 So I would encourage you, if, particularly during questions, 33 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:16,760 you want a lively exchange to respect the fact that what is said in this room stays in this room or certainly isn't attributed to me. 34 00:03:17,030 --> 00:03:20,420 I don't pretend to have many prospects of a Foreign Office career ahead of me. 35 00:03:20,690 --> 00:03:25,220 But if I don't want summarily to be booted out, it would be a kindness if you keep quiet. 36 00:03:25,910 --> 00:03:27,340 This is what I want to talk about today. 37 00:03:27,350 --> 00:03:38,510 I want very firmly to to to alert you to the fact this is a worm's eye view of the whole issue of diplomacy and defence. 38 00:03:38,540 --> 00:03:44,160 This is not academic analysis or professorial pontification. 39 00:03:44,180 --> 00:03:54,919 This is what it feels like from from the office in Whitehall or from the embassy in dealing with the sort of problems 40 00:03:54,920 --> 00:04:03,230 that the world is facing diplomatically and politically and engaging with the outside world with a diplomat's hat on. 41 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:09,410 It's. It's, I hope, going to cover what now? 42 00:04:09,420 --> 00:04:17,400 I know I don't need to hope here because I'm giving the bloody talk. We will cover a bit about the history and origins of diplomacy. 43 00:04:18,450 --> 00:04:24,540 And I don't know that any anthropologists in the good because I start with some 44 00:04:24,540 --> 00:04:29,250 anthropological digressions which I don't want debunked by some clever take at the back. 45 00:04:29,580 --> 00:04:37,950 I then go on to diplomacy and foreign policy and try to draw out what I think is an important distinction between these two things. 46 00:04:38,310 --> 00:04:43,710 We tend to run them together. It is the Foreign and Commonwealth Office that provides our diplomats. 47 00:04:44,130 --> 00:04:45,890 But it hasn't always been the case. 48 00:04:45,900 --> 00:04:53,880 And I think it's important that we acknowledge that diplomacy, the business of getting on with funny foreigners and foreign policy, the business, 49 00:04:54,210 --> 00:04:59,850 hard nosed business of making policy to deal with them are two separate skills requiring two 50 00:04:59,850 --> 00:05:06,540 different kinds of expertise and indeed kinds of personality that leads on to the human factor, 51 00:05:06,540 --> 00:05:11,850 which I think is an important element in all of this. This is ultimately about relationships. 52 00:05:12,180 --> 00:05:21,930 And if you ignore that element and if you try to treat everyone else around the world in the same way that you would anticipate they would treat you, 53 00:05:21,940 --> 00:05:29,519 you rapidly become unstuck and then going to nod towards the really important work that's going on here, 54 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:37,440 the changing character of your program, and talk about the interface, if you can call it that, between diplomacy and defence. 55 00:05:37,950 --> 00:05:47,279 And finally, I'm going to just throw up a slide that I hope enables you to see that in all of this work diplomacy, 56 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:50,550 warfare and all the continuum that runs between the two of them. 57 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:56,610 If you can capture the imagination of your political masters, of your colleagues, 58 00:05:56,790 --> 00:06:01,170 of the wider public, then you've won the first and the most important battle. 59 00:06:01,650 --> 00:06:06,270 But we'll come back to that at the end. Let me start with my anthropological diversion. 60 00:06:06,870 --> 00:06:13,960 Now, this picture is not an early embassy away day and my first posting of us. 61 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:24,240 This is a picture from a splendid and underrated film called 1 Million Years B.C. and I encourage you haven't seen it to watch it. 62 00:06:24,390 --> 00:06:30,780 It's actually a picture that has been used in in when Google were developing that Google glasses, 63 00:06:31,110 --> 00:06:36,390 they were developing refinements to the software that tracks eye movement across the screen. 64 00:06:36,780 --> 00:06:40,710 And this bigger picture helped in that process. 65 00:06:41,260 --> 00:06:44,880 Well, why have I got it up on the screen? 66 00:06:45,270 --> 00:06:55,770 Because. Because I think diplomacy is one of only three things that distinguishes people from animals. 67 00:06:57,150 --> 00:07:00,780 I think it is a defining point. 68 00:07:01,110 --> 00:07:06,000 When we got off of our knuckles and strapped on our fur bikinis. 69 00:07:06,510 --> 00:07:11,080 Diplomacy was one of the things that distinguished us. 70 00:07:11,100 --> 00:07:17,100 No animals do diplomacy. Quick diversion just to make sure you're all the way up to savages. 71 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:25,110 What do you think the other two things are that distinguish that all human societies do and no animal societies do? 72 00:07:26,550 --> 00:07:29,850 Espionage. Prostitution, though, is a good question. Prostitution? 73 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:35,840 Wrong. Chimps and bonobos are ready for anything. And if you have any other thoughts. 74 00:07:36,900 --> 00:07:40,350 I'm sorry. War? No. All animals do war. 75 00:07:40,380 --> 00:07:44,820 Just. Yeah. Not organised. It can be pretty organised. 76 00:07:45,510 --> 00:07:49,020 Yeah. Cooking. Cooking. Good man. Splendid. 77 00:07:49,110 --> 00:07:52,310 Yes. Cooking is one. All human societies cook. 78 00:07:52,650 --> 00:08:03,959 You can't really be a human unless you cook. You can't feed the gigantic brain that you guys have without consuming processed food. 79 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,270 And cooking was the way to achieve that. What's the other? 80 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:21,440 Religion could be difficult to test because, you know, I have a devout Pomeranian and its job to tell my language. 81 00:08:21,460 --> 00:08:28,390 No, I mean, animals know. Even robins do language. I'll tell you it it is, in fact, stories. 82 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:33,340 We are storytelling creatures. Narrative is hard wired. 83 00:08:33,550 --> 00:08:39,250 And I'm going to come back to that at the end. So anyway, this is this is the diversion I want to make. 84 00:08:39,550 --> 00:08:43,150 I mean, diplomacy is what all humans do. 85 00:08:43,180 --> 00:08:47,790 Negotiation is in our DNA. It isn't it isn't rocket science. 86 00:08:47,810 --> 00:08:57,400 It isn't some dark art that is left to professionals. It's what every society is doing all the time and has been since the start of time. 87 00:08:58,150 --> 00:09:04,720 And so I don't want anyone to think that that it requires all the special protocols that are attached to it. 88 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:13,900 Being a diplomat is about being a person. And when it is rendered to academic and too esoteric, I think people are starting to miss the point. 89 00:09:17,180 --> 00:09:25,130 Right. Fast forward about a million years and you come to this image, which is the beginnings of diplomatic protocol. 90 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:35,930 This is a picture from the Mahabharata, which is written about 400 B.C. and it shows Christian mediating for peace in the Kurukshetra war. 91 00:09:36,290 --> 00:09:38,330 Now, why is this important? 92 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:50,629 Because in the Magna Carta, there is the first instance recorded of of emissaries being spared precisely because they are emissaries, 93 00:09:50,630 --> 00:09:55,400 the monkey God Hanuman was sent to mediate for peace and was going to be chopped up by 94 00:09:55,400 --> 00:10:03,139 the Demon King Ravana and was allowed to go away because it was deemed that emissaries, 95 00:10:03,140 --> 00:10:06,980 diplomats had a special role and needed to be protected. 96 00:10:07,250 --> 00:10:12,760 They needed to be spared. But it wasn't all plain sailing. 97 00:10:12,910 --> 00:10:20,049 This I don't know whether any of you recognise it, but it's a splendid radar statue to be discovered in Calais where you park your car and 98 00:10:20,050 --> 00:10:23,770 discover more people in it when you get back to it than when you when you when you, 99 00:10:23,770 --> 00:10:28,929 when you left it at the metre. These these are the burghers of Calais. 100 00:10:28,930 --> 00:10:34,690 And there's some dispute as to whether they were, in fact, diplomats or whether they were they were they were hostages. 101 00:10:35,050 --> 00:10:47,020 But the story is that when King Edward the third, was besieging Calais in 1347, the population of Calais had to sort of had eventually to give up. 102 00:10:47,290 --> 00:10:55,270 And they sent these six burghers out with halters around their necks to bleed four times the hoses around their necks so that they could be strung up. 103 00:10:55,630 --> 00:11:01,720 This is not a good recruitment poster for the Foreign and Commonwealth Office today and there've been lots of 104 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:09,910 other instances through history of this delicate necessity of ensuring that diplomats are properly protected. 105 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:19,059 You've got the stories from when Darius sent emissaries to Athens and Sparta demanding earth and water, 106 00:11:19,060 --> 00:11:26,139 which were the sort of classical provisions of obeisance or giving in the Athenians through the chap 107 00:11:26,140 --> 00:11:30,510 who was asking for Earth down a pit and the Spartans through the chap who was demanding water down. 108 00:11:30,550 --> 00:11:34,030 Well, that wasn't quite what Darius had intended. 109 00:11:34,030 --> 00:11:38,290 And the Peloponnesian War resulted. You've got a lovely story. 110 00:11:38,290 --> 00:11:45,609 When the Romans were sending emissaries to Taranto, which was then the Carthaginian town, and on the way out of the gate, 111 00:11:45,610 --> 00:11:51,280 having failed to negotiate terms, he was pinned down by the local Carthaginians and he came up. 112 00:11:51,820 --> 00:11:54,459 History relates. He came up with a withering response. 113 00:11:54,460 --> 00:12:02,350 I rather suspect it may have taken her just a few centuries to write it back in, but he said that this stain will only be washed out with blood. 114 00:12:02,860 --> 00:12:08,620 And so you've got, again, this this failure to respect the honour of emissaries and diplomats, 115 00:12:08,620 --> 00:12:12,360 which needs to be hardwired into the process in order that it works. 116 00:12:12,370 --> 00:12:18,939 And then my last example in this in this series, Genghis Khan was was negotiating, unlike him, 117 00:12:18,940 --> 00:12:27,400 for for a for a friendly alliance with the charismatic shah of what is now Iran and the stones and the charisma. 118 00:12:27,460 --> 00:12:30,550 Shah made the mistake of when these three emissaries arrived. 119 00:12:31,420 --> 00:12:32,979 He basically told them to [INAUDIBLE] off. 120 00:12:32,980 --> 00:12:37,510 He shaved two of them, which was a dreadful insult, and cut off the head of the third, which was even worse, 121 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:43,540 and sent back the shaven ones with the other Japanese head in a bag and said, We're not interested in this. 122 00:12:43,900 --> 00:12:48,940 The consequence was that within two years this entire civilisation had ceased to exist. 123 00:12:49,210 --> 00:12:57,250 Genghis Khan was it was was firmly of the view that that diplomats had to be sacred and inviolable. 124 00:12:57,580 --> 00:13:01,000 It's a very worthy sentiment. It's a pity about the citation. 125 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:06,100 Right. We go on now to modern history. 126 00:13:06,490 --> 00:13:10,299 This is Russia in a non contemporary portrait. 127 00:13:10,300 --> 00:13:13,480 And this is my only my last film reference. 128 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:21,970 But recently I find it he's obviously for everyone now tarnished by fatal association with the Three Musketeers as the sort of villain in the drama. 129 00:13:22,330 --> 00:13:29,110 And and in the 1930s, a very good film was made for its standards about the Three Musketeers, 130 00:13:29,110 --> 00:13:33,790 which includes the memorable line, Your Eminence, I have terrible news. 131 00:13:34,090 --> 00:13:43,480 The 30 Years War has begun, with which it is a good example of hindsight bias in action. 132 00:13:43,690 --> 00:13:46,959 It's interesting that they got Your Eminence right, because he was a cardinal. 133 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:56,980 But anyway, the point of there and indeed well, the point of the 30 Years War is it began again with a failure to recognise the dignity of diplomats, 134 00:13:58,050 --> 00:14:00,990 something I hope you're going to remember from this talk, though. 135 00:14:01,060 --> 00:14:09,850 It's that that famously the defendants tration of Prague was the Protestants of Bohemia chucking out of the window, 136 00:14:09,910 --> 00:14:15,489 the Catholic notables who'd been sent there as emissaries from King Ferdinand to try to see 137 00:14:15,490 --> 00:14:19,300 whether there couldn't be some sort of arrangement between these two disparate factions. 138 00:14:19,690 --> 00:14:25,030 Throwing people out the window was deemed to be, even in those days, causes belli. 139 00:14:25,810 --> 00:14:32,290 And over the course of that 30 years, more probably more devastation in Europe than it has ever seen before or since. 140 00:14:32,290 --> 00:14:41,859 Populations down by up to 50% in large swaths of what's now Germany anyway back to reach that because he was not central 141 00:14:41,860 --> 00:14:51,730 to the to the bohemian drama but what he was doing was was starting to create the the business of modern diplomacy. 142 00:14:52,150 --> 00:14:56,559 He was he created the first Ministry of Foreign Affairs in 1626. 143 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:01,690 The French way ahead of us didn't come until 1782, the American 1789. 144 00:15:02,020 --> 00:15:09,970 So the French way ahead of it and still way ahead, actually, the work of the diplomatic academy, which which Robert touched on early on with the. 145 00:15:10,010 --> 00:15:17,899 Which I was involved before coming across. The idea is in part to try to meet this challenge of a city hubristic challenge, 146 00:15:17,900 --> 00:15:22,400 in my view of the Foreign Office being the best diplomatic service in the world, 147 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:27,530 whatever that means, but by a whole series of expensive consultants yardsticks. 148 00:15:27,890 --> 00:15:32,450 We are currently number two behind the French. They have always been very good at it. 149 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,050 They do the language of diplomacy, which, as you all know, is French. 150 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:42,350 And they were there a century and a half before any of us in terms of the institutions of it. 151 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:51,380 But it wasn't just the institutions. What recently a what recently are created was or at least refined was the concept of, 152 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:57,020 as he put it, in negocio continuo the the business of permanent diplomacy. 153 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:58,370 Up until then, 154 00:15:58,490 --> 00:16:07,490 more or less diplomacy had been a business of sending emissaries from one party to talk to those of another and then come back with the news. 155 00:16:07,490 --> 00:16:17,750 And then possibly or not that continuing over time, but no concept that you plonk someone down whose job it is just to get on with that, 156 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,410 with that with that different power striking that. 157 00:16:21,620 --> 00:16:25,790 I mean he was building on foundations that actually been laid by the French king a hundred 158 00:16:25,790 --> 00:16:31,969 years before who sent the first permanent demonstrate to the sublime port to to Istanbul. 159 00:16:31,970 --> 00:16:37,550 Byzantium. No Istanbul in 1535. 160 00:16:37,790 --> 00:16:40,250 So the first the beginnings of permanent missions, 161 00:16:40,460 --> 00:16:46,850 the beginnings of this concept of continual perpetual negotiation and the beginnings of a foreign ministry. 162 00:16:52,090 --> 00:16:55,660 And this is my last slide in this sort of historical diversion. 163 00:16:56,890 --> 00:17:01,870 You see, it develops not just its ministries and its and its underpinnings, 164 00:17:01,870 --> 00:17:08,350 its structural underpinnings, but it also starts to develop its own sort of protocols and fancy dress. 165 00:17:08,710 --> 00:17:17,800 This picture is actually quite an interesting picture of the American the early American diplomats talking about what diplomats should wear, 166 00:17:18,190 --> 00:17:22,990 because there was a there was a real challenge within the republic of those whose job it was to go abroad, 167 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:33,460 who felt that they had to stand up alongside the elegant plumage of the European aristocrats by wearing all the feathers and top hats and so on. 168 00:17:33,820 --> 00:17:37,840 And those on the right of the picture here who felt that it was important properly 169 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:44,230 to represent the new Republican simple sentiments of this brave new country. 170 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,409 And this is a tension, actually, that continues today, 171 00:17:47,410 --> 00:17:55,600 because do you have a foreign commonwealth office that is representative of the country and therefore does that does what the rest of the UK does, 172 00:17:56,140 --> 00:18:03,130 or do you have diplomats whose task it is to represent what foreigners think it ought to be, what it does? 173 00:18:03,140 --> 00:18:06,190 A real challenge and something I hope we can come back during questions. 174 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:13,270 But anyway, there was a huge long correspondence about me breeches and dry coal and hats and shades and eagles and so on. 175 00:18:14,530 --> 00:18:19,030 Ultimately, a circular was sent out in 1893, 176 00:18:19,330 --> 00:18:25,540 which which said that the decision to wear the uniform was left to the judgement and needs of the diplomat himself. 177 00:18:25,900 --> 00:18:29,910 So they didn't come down to any any clear conclusion there. 178 00:18:31,210 --> 00:18:34,300 And here is a near contemporary picture. 179 00:18:34,420 --> 00:18:40,930 My old boss, William Hague. And and a man who this university should love because he was a brilliant head of the union when I was here. 180 00:18:42,100 --> 00:18:46,810 He's sitting the picture actually isn't of him, but it's the only picture I could find of his office when he was in it. 181 00:18:47,230 --> 00:18:52,299 It is by far the grandest office in Whitehall by any standards. 182 00:18:52,300 --> 00:19:01,270 No other functionary, minister, Prime Minister even sits in an office a quarter as fancy as that of the Foreign Secretary. 183 00:19:01,630 --> 00:19:11,620 Why is this? Because in part, the job of the office is to make those who come to it feel a bit daunted and small. 184 00:19:12,070 --> 00:19:17,140 If you are an ambassador summoned to the Foreign Office for some misdemeanour or other, 185 00:19:17,380 --> 00:19:24,580 the whole building is is is architecturally designed to make you shrink so that by the time you 186 00:19:24,580 --> 00:19:30,070 get up into this room and walk the 300 yards across the carpet to meet the foreign secretary, 187 00:19:30,340 --> 00:19:36,850 you have shrunk to a sort of a well smaller than the foreign secretary. 188 00:19:36,970 --> 00:19:47,140 Anyway, it's a sort of anthropological attempt to shock and awe, if I can put it like that, directly underneath his office, 189 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:52,989 the top civil servant, the permanent under-secretary who is also head of the Diplomatic Service, 190 00:19:52,990 --> 00:19:57,819 two different roles in the same individual is in a similar office, a little bit smaller, 191 00:19:57,820 --> 00:20:01,780 but it was just as magnificent until around the turn of the millennium. 192 00:20:01,780 --> 00:20:06,450 Some some functionary thought that it would be good to give the furnishing contract to IKEA. 193 00:20:06,460 --> 00:20:12,550 So it's rather sadly sort of more representative of the UK today than this great Victorian we see there. 194 00:20:13,780 --> 00:20:20,380 Right. We've moved from record Welch through John Quincy Adams to William Hague. 195 00:20:20,860 --> 00:20:31,930 And what have we established? We've established that it's got a long history and that dressing up is important and that protocol and plumage carried. 196 00:20:33,940 --> 00:20:41,560 Let me go on to something that is, in a sense, the next phase of this, the distinction between diplomacy and foreign policy. 197 00:20:42,340 --> 00:20:46,750 Now, foreign policy is very much the senior bit here. 198 00:20:47,380 --> 00:20:53,740 It covers all of government and parliament. It's the totality of a country's international relations. 199 00:20:54,040 --> 00:21:00,160 It covers culture and trade and economic links, a political all all the business of negotiation. 200 00:21:02,350 --> 00:21:08,389 But diplomacy is a bit more discreet. I love this quotation from Will Rogers. 201 00:21:08,390 --> 00:21:13,670 Will Rogers, the sort of Stephen Fry of 20th century America, and a really interesting guy, 202 00:21:14,540 --> 00:21:24,109 a full blooded Cherokee Indian who came to public prominence because he'd gone to the circus in New York and a steer broke into the auditorium. 203 00:21:24,110 --> 00:21:27,650 And because he knew how to do it, he lassoed the damn thing and laid it out. 204 00:21:27,890 --> 00:21:35,840 And everyone said, Who's that guy? And he started a career that went on 30 years, Anthony, until he crashed an aeroplane and that was the end of him. 205 00:21:36,110 --> 00:21:41,210 But if you want to look at the sort of pithy epigrams of America, Will Rogers is your man. 206 00:21:41,540 --> 00:21:49,130 He comes up with this lovely thing, which I will supplement with another lovely saying from David Frost. 207 00:21:51,830 --> 00:21:57,290 Basically, it's about using all the tools you have from the sort of shock and awe that I 208 00:21:57,290 --> 00:22:03,560 talked about in the office to guile and deceit and manipulation and negotiation. 209 00:22:05,030 --> 00:22:13,070 And then and this is the critical bit they prospering brings out, leaving the people you are dealing with feeling good. 210 00:22:14,120 --> 00:22:24,630 That's the important part. And finally, I'm just going to quote the master of the contemporary master in this field, Henry Kissinger. 211 00:22:25,470 --> 00:22:29,580 If any of you haven't yet read his world order, I do commend you. 212 00:22:29,610 --> 00:22:34,830 It is for me the book of last year and should be on everyone's required reading list. 213 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,170 It reminds us that diplomacy is the junior art, 214 00:22:40,590 --> 00:22:46,530 but it also connects with what Robb and his team are doing in this changing character of war program about 215 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:56,370 linking force with those parameters of a state's projection that matter to its population and its leaders. 216 00:22:58,900 --> 00:23:07,780 Worth pointing out, and I've really touched on this until 1918, the Foreign Office and the diplomatic service were two separate bits of government. 217 00:23:08,500 --> 00:23:20,290 They were two separate services. You join one or the other, and the Foreign Office had pointy headed, cerebral and and frankly, 218 00:23:20,290 --> 00:23:29,860 unlovable types whose task it was to work out what policy should be with a sort of analytical rigour that didn't touch on the human element. 219 00:23:30,460 --> 00:23:39,040 They would then tell their diplomats the junior service, to go and sell this to benighted foreigners, 220 00:23:39,610 --> 00:23:45,849 and the diplomats would predictably whinge and moan and negotiate within the 221 00:23:45,850 --> 00:23:49,720 building in order to try to secure something that would be more palatable. 222 00:23:50,530 --> 00:24:01,989 This all happens still today. Endlessly there is the batting to and fro of policy between Whitehall, King Charles Street, where the Foreign Office is, 223 00:24:01,990 --> 00:24:09,970 and our embassies right around the world with the ambassadors bleating that it's quite impossible in Mauritania to sell a policy like this. 224 00:24:10,360 --> 00:24:14,440 And the Whitehall mandarins saying man up and just do it. 225 00:24:15,100 --> 00:24:21,850 And that balance between the diplomats who were always accused of having gone native and 226 00:24:21,850 --> 00:24:27,790 the the people in Whitehall who are always accused of never having any understanding 227 00:24:27,790 --> 00:24:32,290 of the complexity of the world and the difficulty of all this business used to be 228 00:24:32,500 --> 00:24:38,890 institutionally divided and I think was more robust for that separation in 1982. 229 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:44,260 Services were merged and you can see that there's a logic that attaches to expertise 230 00:24:44,260 --> 00:24:48,010 being there within the team rather than sort of separated by a Chinese rule. 231 00:24:48,250 --> 00:24:51,819 But I hope in questions we can bring out this because for me, at least, 232 00:24:51,820 --> 00:25:00,730 it's it's a it's still a sort of defining unhappiness in the way in which relations are worked out. 233 00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:05,380 You're needing diplomacy within you, between the diplomats, if I can put it like that. 234 00:25:08,250 --> 00:25:18,240 So what about diplomacy today? It was a lovely quotation from a French diplomat and commentator, a man called Philippe, coming in about 1500, 235 00:25:19,170 --> 00:25:27,390 in which he recommends that two great princes who wish to establish good relations should never meet each other face to face, 236 00:25:28,050 --> 00:25:31,110 but they ought to communicate through good and wise ambassadors. 237 00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:38,850 What Philip, the queen, was trying to say was, well, he was doing this from the basis that in those days, 238 00:25:39,060 --> 00:25:44,340 very often your princes were not interchangeable, as these chaps are already some of these jobs. 239 00:25:44,340 --> 00:25:49,260 When you look at picture, they they you couldn't change them. 240 00:25:49,260 --> 00:25:52,770 And quite often they were uncouth and not fit for posting. 241 00:25:52,770 --> 00:26:02,610 They were dribbling unreliable and altogether embarrassing when seen in the palace on your patch, 242 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:10,440 let alone when written out to events like the field of cloth of gold where they met the adversary or friend. 243 00:26:11,130 --> 00:26:15,210 So what Philip, the Queen was saying is leave it to the masses, will do the business. 244 00:26:16,170 --> 00:26:22,320 Since the Congress of Vienna, or certainly since the Treaty of Versailles, 245 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:31,020 it's been very much the business of leaders to do the real negotiation face to face at summits. 246 00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:38,160 And this is an inexorable process that whatever the commission might have said is not going to be wrote back. 247 00:26:38,580 --> 00:26:43,409 These people, dare I say, needs to build relationships. 248 00:26:43,410 --> 00:26:48,690 And it is these days the job of diplomats to facilitate that process and to brief in 249 00:26:48,690 --> 00:26:52,500 the car on the way to the meeting rather than to handle all the meetings themselves. 250 00:26:52,800 --> 00:27:03,330 Now that that's altogether understood. But it does mean that diplomats themselves have moved quite a long way from being initially, 251 00:27:03,390 --> 00:27:08,400 frankly, expendable into the people who risk sort of coming back with their heads in a sack. 252 00:27:08,820 --> 00:27:16,530 Then through Philip Cummins, the Crimeans day, where they would where they would effectively buy time, 253 00:27:16,530 --> 00:27:21,820 when negotiations could be deliberately procrastinated by shuttling to and fro. 254 00:27:22,140 --> 00:27:27,630 And today they are a little more than then travel agents and events organisers. 255 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,220 There's a bit more to it than that, but we'll come on to that. 256 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,910 Warmth and engagement between principals. Say what you will about our prime minister. 257 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,660 He is good at this sort of thing. 258 00:27:42,810 --> 00:27:56,640 There is a good rapport with Europe's most important leader at the moment, and that business of building up warm relationships is important. 259 00:27:57,330 --> 00:28:01,230 It's facilitated by the work of the diplomats. 260 00:28:01,270 --> 00:28:10,590 But Peter Ustinov made a lovely quotation. He said that a diplomat these days is nothing but a headwaiter who's allowed to sit down occasionally. 261 00:28:11,610 --> 00:28:18,330 And it is really the business of the diplomat to bring these people together and allow that connection to be made. 262 00:28:19,710 --> 00:28:26,400 And there's that vital role of helping frame the discussion that ensures that, first of all, 263 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:31,920 that put your foot in it, but also critically, that you can see where the other person's interest is. 264 00:28:32,190 --> 00:28:38,159 And running through all this talk, I hope, is a theme that you that I trust you'll take away. 265 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,879 That empathy is the kind of currency of this engagement, 266 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:49,200 that if you can put yourself into the shoes of the other person you're on the way to, you're on the way to achieving something. 267 00:28:50,070 --> 00:28:56,100 So the diplomatic round really is about analysis, about framing the discussions. 268 00:28:56,340 --> 00:29:04,169 He's got the best briefing he has for that important meeting. It's about understanding and awareness, but it's also about impact and communication. 269 00:29:04,170 --> 00:29:07,340 It's about getting the right messages. I mean, there's a picture tells a thousand words. 270 00:29:07,350 --> 00:29:15,719 You know, that picture if number ten and the and the German foreign ministry can get it out tells a benign story, 271 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,410 that is exactly what both leaders would wish. We'll come on in a moment. 272 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,250 Two other pictures that are slightly trickier. 273 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:31,350 Another example, where did I said breakthroughs are written in the body language. 274 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:39,089 This is the ping pong moment, a remarkable breakthrough for American diplomacy facilitated by the Pakistanis. 275 00:29:39,090 --> 00:29:46,440 The Pakistani role in that whole China US rapprochement is an undertow story and they deserve more credit for it than they get. 276 00:29:46,860 --> 00:29:51,450 But effectively, they facilitated Kissinger's first trips to Beijing, 277 00:29:51,450 --> 00:30:01,019 and then eventually we got the the Nixon Mao meeting and his here is the lovely picture that Putin needs to reflect upon, 278 00:30:01,020 --> 00:30:04,230 because this is this is friendless in the cellblock era. 279 00:30:05,130 --> 00:30:08,310 And this is, in fact, Brezhnev and Honecker. 280 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:15,490 But for a man who harks back to the glories of the old Soviet Union and who rails against the gay rights movement, I think it's. 281 00:30:16,620 --> 00:30:23,820 This should be the pin up picture here. 282 00:30:23,830 --> 00:30:26,820 Something a bit more difficult. The body language says it all. 283 00:30:26,850 --> 00:30:31,680 Diplomacy isn't always about being nice to people, about being friendly, about being diplomatic. 284 00:30:32,070 --> 00:30:43,350 Sometimes it's about being really tough. Politicians will always criticise diplomats for being for being too accommodating to foreigners. 285 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:49,500 Norman Tebbit famously said that we have a Ministry of Agriculture to look after the farmers and we have a foreign 286 00:30:49,500 --> 00:30:55,920 office to look after the foreigners because there's a politician who's really focussed on the domestic agenda. 287 00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:02,639 Who couldn't see that the business of diplomacy is about being accommodating, 288 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:07,590 but also about being tough, and that these two things happen side by side. 289 00:31:11,190 --> 00:31:15,660 Stalin came up with a with a good quotation that's worth remembering. 290 00:31:15,900 --> 00:31:21,810 He reminding us that diplomacy doesn't always have to be about being truthful either. 291 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:29,580 Either, he says, sincere diplomacy is no more possible than drive water or wooden. 292 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:36,150 In other words, that you had to say there's an awful lot of what diplomacy was about, 293 00:31:36,420 --> 00:31:42,090 was about finding a means to get people to a point at which that could be some agreement. 294 00:31:42,390 --> 00:31:46,920 Let's face it, genuine character of war is accepting that that moment cannot be achieved. 295 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,670 And I hope, as I say in questions and later on, that's all we can come on to that. 296 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:56,340 But accepting that being tough is part of it is is, I think, an important reminder. 297 00:31:58,110 --> 00:32:03,210 And here's my last body language picture of this. This actually this photograph really troubles me. 298 00:32:03,220 --> 00:32:07,660 This is of and, you know, the the the leaders of China and Japan. 299 00:32:08,550 --> 00:32:17,100 And when you read about the increasing tensions in that corner of the world and you see this picture of two people who are a fair enough, 300 00:32:17,100 --> 00:32:19,440 it's only one picture. It's caught them in an awkward moment. 301 00:32:19,770 --> 00:32:28,740 But just as the Merkel Cameron picture tells a very positive story for me, this picture tells a story that that sometimes, 302 00:32:29,130 --> 00:32:33,420 however effective the diplomacy, you cannot cover up irreconcilable differences. 303 00:32:33,780 --> 00:32:41,160 And I worry that that at the moment there is a sort of drift in that part of East Asia towards irreconcilable differences. 304 00:32:41,940 --> 00:32:51,300 Anyway, let's let's let's move on back back to the business of the diplomats themselves rather than the leaders who the who they're representing. 305 00:32:52,140 --> 00:32:56,459 Here again, in the stereotypes, this is a picture from my Ferrero, Russia, 306 00:32:56,460 --> 00:33:04,230 a school of diplomacy album where where you're on about about classic bilateral 307 00:33:04,230 --> 00:33:09,840 engagement and about remembering that it's it's not just about the politics. 308 00:33:09,870 --> 00:33:13,170 It's about setting the frame for the whole relationship. 309 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,330 It's about, I mean, whole list of different diplomacy. 310 00:33:17,610 --> 00:33:26,280 There's cultural diplomacy. And that in the UK instance is about reminding people that we're not just about 311 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,720 the British Council and the sort of the classic arms of cultural engagement. 312 00:33:30,940 --> 00:33:34,450 We're also the BBC and the F.T. and the RC. 313 00:33:34,770 --> 00:33:36,329 We're about the British music. 314 00:33:36,330 --> 00:33:43,680 You know, that wonderful work that Neil MacGregor has been doing, not just with the Germans but with the Iranians, the cylinder itself. 315 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:49,249 That's a fantastic example of cleverly using cultural iconography. 316 00:33:49,250 --> 00:33:54,960 And I'm a great fan of what Neil MacGregor did with the with the Parthenon Marbles sending them off. 317 00:33:55,020 --> 00:33:58,290 I know that it's been contentious with any Greeks present, 318 00:33:59,340 --> 00:34:08,230 but it's it's remembering that Harry Potter and Manchester United are tools of this enterprise as much as as I said. 319 00:34:08,250 --> 00:34:17,579 Nick Clegg. Then there's so then then this, then this defence and we can come back again to that. 320 00:34:17,580 --> 00:34:20,639 But remembering that sharing expertise, 321 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:27,990 identifying gaps where different countries can help each other in different ways and alliances can be not just forged, 322 00:34:27,990 --> 00:34:32,940 but then sort of rebounded by by clever defence engagement, 323 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,780 digital diplomacy, the whole sort of science of this, 324 00:34:36,780 --> 00:34:41,940 and endless monographs written for the State Department about Hillary Clinton's enthusiasm for digital diplomacy. 325 00:34:42,990 --> 00:34:52,470 It's a really difficult one, and particularly difficult under her aegis as secretary of state, because it's it's great if you can except lose control. 326 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:59,400 It's hopeless if you are of a controlling disposition, because digital diplomacy is something that, 327 00:35:00,060 --> 00:35:03,360 to use the metaphor, goes viral and it doesn't always work. 328 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:08,850 And you have to accept that sometimes you get embarrassments out of the digital domestic digital diplomacy sector. 329 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:14,940 There's commercial I mean, commercial diplomacy obviously isn't just about selling stuff. 330 00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:22,770 It's also about the business of framing the way in which nations can engage through trade and through economic links. 331 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:29,220 And you know, the UK has been doing it sort of quietly behind the scenes, 332 00:35:29,460 --> 00:35:34,620 some pretty amazing stuff through Gaston and the World Trade Organisation that we should celebrate over the 333 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,980 last few decades never gets any publicity but is genuinely making the world more prosperous for everyone, 334 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,889 not just for us. And then this track too. And I would bang on about all this forever. 335 00:35:43,890 --> 00:35:48,700 But. But tractor diplomacy is about using people like you. 336 00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:58,250 It's about getting experts in that field to go and form relationships with their partners in countries where we can't use the normal, 337 00:35:58,410 --> 00:36:02,970 normal tools of diplomacy because relations are that strained at the moment. 338 00:36:02,980 --> 00:36:09,960 We've got some wonderful work going on, on track to on the Middle East peace process, on the Iranian nuclear deal where you're. 339 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:20,070 Using academics, retired diplomats, thinktanks, scholars, specialists who can go to and fro, carrying informal messages, 340 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:26,970 feeling out the landscape, enabling more formal emissaries to follow in their foot in their stead. 341 00:36:28,230 --> 00:36:34,290 So ultimately, the role of the sort of the diplomat with all this stuff happening, the commercial, 342 00:36:34,290 --> 00:36:38,950 the cultural, the tractor and everything else, the job of the diplomat is convening. 343 00:36:38,970 --> 00:36:40,630 It's about bringing in experts. 344 00:36:40,650 --> 00:36:48,750 It's about ensuring that they find ways to engage that can be persuasive right across frontier frontiers and different sectors. 345 00:36:49,860 --> 00:36:56,910 And in the classic sort of pneumonic, it's it's time, it's diplomatic, it's information and intelligence. 346 00:36:57,300 --> 00:37:00,660 It's military, it's economic. It doesn't cover all of them. 347 00:37:00,660 --> 00:37:05,190 But worth remembering. And just my final point on this. 348 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:13,790 Symbolism counts if you can get the right image back to Cameron and Merkel back to. 349 00:37:14,020 --> 00:37:25,840 I mean, there was that wonderful moment on the 12th of September 2001 when the Guardsmen outside Buckingham Palace played the Stars and Stripes. 350 00:37:26,350 --> 00:37:30,160 After 911 had devastated America the day before. 351 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:44,799 And that very subtle but imaginative way of showing solidarity and collective endeavour was worth any number of speeches, 352 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,690 handshakes, condolence books. 353 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:53,020 I mean, there are other examples which we can draw them in, and lots of examples through history where actually, if you think back, 354 00:37:53,020 --> 00:38:00,069 it's the imagery that counts as much as the as much as the as much as the 355 00:38:00,070 --> 00:38:04,600 substance of the issue because the imagery that captures the public imagination. 356 00:38:05,410 --> 00:38:07,450 Back to Neil MacGregor in the Doura cylinder, 357 00:38:07,720 --> 00:38:15,580 getting 1 million Iranians to come and see this treasure and to see that the British Museum was helping share their treasures 358 00:38:15,580 --> 00:38:25,210 with the rest of the world and reflecting well on both my last bit on the sort of nature of diplomacy and how it's done. 359 00:38:25,420 --> 00:38:30,340 This is obviously the multi this is the Security Council in New York, which is the multilateral level, 360 00:38:30,340 --> 00:38:33,700 which is about doing what those nice people in the last slide were doing. 361 00:38:33,910 --> 00:38:43,690 But in three dimensions, it's about trying to balance the expedience of little caucuses where two or three of you can stitch up a good deal, 362 00:38:43,690 --> 00:38:47,500 but where you then need the legitimacy of lots more buying into it. 363 00:38:47,860 --> 00:38:57,070 And that's a whole new sort of skills game that has obviously blossomed really since since the creation of the first League of Nations and this. 364 00:38:58,090 --> 00:39:02,590 And these days, any major crisis will obviously involve not just this, 365 00:39:02,590 --> 00:39:09,030 but it'll involve whatever influence we can bring to bear through the G-20 or the G7 of the international financial institutions. 366 00:39:09,550 --> 00:39:19,060 There's a whole raft of multilateral bodies where the task of the diplomat is to try to get in and to identify where your interest coincides 367 00:39:19,060 --> 00:39:25,780 or roughly coincides with other people and where you can lead them a little bit further than they would otherwise have thought they would go. 368 00:39:26,110 --> 00:39:32,799 And that's that's the skill that classically you're going to have is very much as my colleagues, the UK has been good at, 369 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:41,830 we are always on the front foot in these big multinational institutions because we work very hard behind the scenes to identify and 370 00:39:41,830 --> 00:39:48,160 empathise with those opportunities and then move them a little further than than they might otherwise have otherwise have moved. 371 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:53,200 I mean, the classic about ten years ago when all of us had visiting cards, 372 00:39:53,240 --> 00:39:57,910 the sort of sort through management consultancy to tell the world what you did in a, 373 00:39:57,910 --> 00:40:04,270 in a, in a single phrase, the sort of key buzzwords were security, prosperity. 374 00:40:04,270 --> 00:40:07,360 And consider the sort of three pillars of what the Foreign Office does. 375 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:12,910 It protects the UK, it ensures that we're prosperous and it protects UK citizens. 376 00:40:13,420 --> 00:40:16,840 I mean, do they want to know why your passports are so expensive? 377 00:40:16,900 --> 00:40:22,300 You know, when you go and get a new passport costs you. I don't know what it costs ten quid or something these days. 378 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,130 Do you know why it's so expensive? 379 00:40:25,690 --> 00:40:36,640 It's expensive because consular services as administered through the Foreign Office are all paid for out of the sale of passports. 380 00:40:36,970 --> 00:40:44,860 So it's a clever way of. Well, it's effectively it's a tax on sensible citizens who travel abroad and don't cause any trouble 381 00:40:45,670 --> 00:40:50,410 by those who go to be through and get pissed and have to be medivaced with liver failure. 382 00:40:51,490 --> 00:40:58,690 That's why there's a whole consular benefits in the Foreign Office, but that's, that's a diversion and, and we shouldn't stop it. 383 00:40:59,290 --> 00:41:04,870 Defence. I've got to. Let me, let me sort of wrap up and bring it back to where Rob's programme is. 384 00:41:06,490 --> 00:41:12,340 How does that fit in? There's a lovely quotation from George Kennan, the man who wrote the famous Long Telegram from Moscow. 385 00:41:13,570 --> 00:41:22,810 You have no idea how much it contributes to the general politeness unpleasantness of diplomacy when you have a little quiet force in the background, 386 00:41:24,010 --> 00:41:36,790 which is a good reminder that ultimately diplomacy is the soft end of something that should have a hardness to it if it is to be affected, 387 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:41,620 if it is to be effective. Frederick the Great came up with a rather tougher one. 388 00:41:42,070 --> 00:41:46,270 Diplomacy without an army is like music without instruments. 389 00:41:47,530 --> 00:41:52,180 Defence is the bit where it can become serious if it has to. 390 00:41:52,720 --> 00:42:01,780 And that's the awkwardness where if we continue to wish to play a prominent role on the world stage, 391 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:06,610 we have to ask ourselves the question whether we're resourcing the state. 392 00:42:06,930 --> 00:42:13,920 To do that. I think that that's a question that all the political parties in the current campaign are going to be dodging. 393 00:42:14,370 --> 00:42:22,440 I think that the military are all accepting that it's going to be yet another very difficult round, as it has been for the Foreign Office to. 394 00:42:22,980 --> 00:42:31,770 And yet there is this expectation from the newspapers and the commentators and the general public that when bad things happen in the world, 395 00:42:31,980 --> 00:42:36,600 we should have some role in, we should seek to redress them. 396 00:42:37,020 --> 00:42:47,130 And if you don't resource the defence element, you can't empower the diplomats to secure the best deal they can. 397 00:42:47,700 --> 00:42:56,700 I mean, we're back with straight back to Clausewitz's famous dictum that war is a continuation of policy or politics by other means. 398 00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:07,509 It's. It's always not just a continuation of politics and policy, but that's where it returns to diplomacy. 399 00:43:07,510 --> 00:43:15,639 Is is the wicket keeper in this game. That advert has to catch the ball that is swung out either from the from the politicians 400 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:20,920 who go too far or from the war that ensues and then has to patch it back together again. 401 00:43:21,550 --> 00:43:27,620 Obviously, war is very much a sort of culminating process and it's the failure of diplomacy. 402 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:34,270 There's a quotation from Tony, from Tony Benn to that effect, what happens? 403 00:43:34,270 --> 00:43:40,000 And this is a question that we all need to reflect on what happens when war has, has has exhausted its possibilities. 404 00:43:40,300 --> 00:43:45,760 Again, it's the diplomat's job to go back to the white flag about anthropology. 405 00:43:46,090 --> 00:43:50,740 They have to go in and secure whatever terms they can. 406 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:57,040 And securing a good peace is ultimately a key part of what the whole war process is. 407 00:43:57,310 --> 00:44:06,430 Now, these days, this interface between defence and diplomacy and our political will is all, in a sense, 408 00:44:06,430 --> 00:44:12,879 administered through and run by the National Security Council, and that's a much more efficient mechanism. 409 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:17,140 It's a bit like having, you know, if you're a corporation, having an engaged board, 410 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:25,070 they sit down once a week and address a particular issue that affects the security of the realm. 411 00:44:25,090 --> 00:44:28,930 Quite often it'll be things like, you know, Ukraine or Syria. 412 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:34,120 It would also be things like cyber or Ebola. 413 00:44:34,510 --> 00:44:36,520 But the National Security Council, 414 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:42,399 which tellingly has always been headed by a diplomat and is likely to be headed when the next change comes by email. 415 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:47,559 The diplomat is is the business of pulling together all those different strands 416 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:52,040 of government and ensuring that the Cabinet address them robustly for now, 417 00:44:52,060 --> 00:44:57,130 and they do it over four or five PowerPoint slides an hour or an hour, a bit of discussion. 418 00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,950 It's an effective mechanism. We can come back to it in questions. 419 00:45:01,690 --> 00:45:08,900 But I think that everyone who's had anything to do and you've got John Day coming to give a talk soon, pick his brains on this. 420 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:15,610 My view is from everything everyone that I've talked to across government that the National Security Council is a 421 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:23,080 considerable improvement in the way in which the whole business of defence and diplomacy is effected these days. 422 00:45:27,290 --> 00:45:32,989 My last line on the defence issue. I mean here we've got little green men and we've got diplomacy and the Ukraine, 423 00:45:32,990 --> 00:45:37,730 we've got the, you know, is this a failure of diplomacy or is it a success? 424 00:45:37,790 --> 00:45:42,259 The modest war that is being fought there at the moment has not blown up. 425 00:45:42,260 --> 00:45:46,720 Again, we need to address this in questions. And here is the quote from Tony Benn. 426 00:45:47,090 --> 00:45:51,110 Just Tony Benn. I mean, it's difficult quoting Tony Benn because he was meant as the historian, always unreliable. 427 00:45:51,110 --> 00:45:54,979 But he did come up with some pithy epigrams. And this is one of them all. 428 00:45:54,980 --> 00:46:07,459 War represents a failure of diplomacy. And and I think that what we've got here is not quite a war and certainly not yet a success for diplomacy. 429 00:46:07,460 --> 00:46:14,900 But you have to compare it with what might be happening if there weren't all those figures running around on the diplomatic stage. 430 00:46:15,890 --> 00:46:24,350 I'm going to have 2 minutes on a completely different theme, because I mentioned at the beginning that the sort of anthropological distinction 431 00:46:24,350 --> 00:46:29,840 between men and beasts is all about diplomacy and cooking and stories. 432 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:38,630 And I just want to touch on the story bit because I think it's relevant not just for diplomacy, but for academics and what really for all of us, 433 00:46:39,290 --> 00:46:44,090 what we've got in this picture, it's not a very good rendition of it, not helped by the fact that someone's written on the board. 434 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,460 But what you've got here is, 435 00:46:47,060 --> 00:46:56,750 is the lovely Andromeda chained to a pillar for being too beautiful and offending the gods by have mother Cassiopeia boasting about it, 436 00:46:57,230 --> 00:47:00,830 chained to a pillar, being devoured by the sea, monsters, sitters or creatures. 437 00:47:00,830 --> 00:47:10,670 I never know what it is. Unhappily, for her, Perseus, flying back fresh from slaying the Gorgon and carrying the Gorgon head, 438 00:47:10,670 --> 00:47:14,659 is a sort of prototype weapon of mass destruction in a in a bag off the horse. 439 00:47:14,660 --> 00:47:19,790 You can't quite see it there. But what happens in the story is that is that Perseus flies by, 440 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:27,230 manages to deploy the the head of the Gorgon to turn the sea monster into stone releases the lovely Andromeda. 441 00:47:27,500 --> 00:47:31,400 They marry and go off and live happily ever after. 442 00:47:31,700 --> 00:47:37,760 And they you can still see them up in the constellations on a on a clear night in Oxford. 443 00:47:38,690 --> 00:47:41,750 Why is the picture relevant? Because. 444 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:46,400 Because it's the archetype of pretty well every story. 445 00:47:47,780 --> 00:47:58,340 The hapless Andromeda, chained to a pillar by this beastly sea monster could be the Greek economy chained up by the merciless euro. 446 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:02,840 It could be the National Health Service brutalised by George Osborne. 447 00:48:03,170 --> 00:48:13,220 And here we have either the splendid Syriza party flying in to rescue Greece or Ed Miliband blundering in to rescue the NHS. 448 00:48:13,580 --> 00:48:23,990 You have an archetype of every story. If this is the sort of generic rule here, if you can as academics and we can as diplomats, 449 00:48:24,650 --> 00:48:35,990 frame the narrative to tell that story so that we in the Ukraine are coming in to rescue the hapless Ukrainians in the East. 450 00:48:36,650 --> 00:48:43,280 The Russians are doing exactly the same. They're going in to rescue the hapless Russians in the East Brave Little Belgium in 1914. 451 00:48:43,550 --> 00:48:50,990 Every story, if you think about it on the Today programme all through history, is frame of all within this classical reference. 452 00:48:51,470 --> 00:49:01,490 Why is it important? Because those of you who write books want to sell them, and those of you who read books want to be kept awake by them. 453 00:49:02,060 --> 00:49:09,530 And if you are if you are able to instil a narrative, you've caught the audience. 454 00:49:09,740 --> 00:49:13,069 We see it again and again from the sort of Whitehall perspective. 455 00:49:13,070 --> 00:49:19,640 We bring in academics to leaven the business of diplomatic, of, of creating policy. 456 00:49:20,210 --> 00:49:27,230 And very often the diplomats will come in with a gigantic pile of stuff that we ought to read and our hearts will sing, 457 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:32,360 and then they'll produce a 38 slide PowerPoint presentation, densely written, 458 00:49:32,690 --> 00:49:39,140 which we'll be obliged to sit through if they could simply capture the imagination with the story. 459 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:47,540 If we can capture the public's imagination with a story that fits into this archetype of one another, then we've sort of won the business. 460 00:49:47,540 --> 00:49:53,240 And that changing character of war moment is changed to peace studies and we can all relax. 461 00:49:53,450 --> 00:49:56,780 I've gone on for 2 minutes longer than I promised. I will shut up. 462 00:49:57,020 --> 00:49:59,690 But please questions. It's over to you.