1 00:00:00,530 --> 00:00:04,350 Now I prefer that you should be doing research with Prospect. 2 00:00:05,130 --> 00:00:12,780 Macaulay, come to University of York, where he's a mathematical physicist. 3 00:00:13,140 --> 00:00:19,560 The more important literary part about that, it's the two of them around you, but has previously worked in a number of institutions, 4 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:24,570 including the other place, Durham, here in Sheffield, which is a publishing house. 5 00:00:24,570 --> 00:00:31,320 It's good. Shepherd is the best and although there is some cheating by reading this book, 6 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:40,260 some, he has works with the U.S. Naval Postgraduate School and historians as well. 7 00:00:40,260 --> 00:00:43,860 So even historians can be involved in mathematics on it, 8 00:00:43,860 --> 00:00:50,519 because I'm trying to write about the relentless logic of mathematics as opposed to human decision making. 9 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:56,460 So I'm sitting here for you say no, because all the talk on construction, on symmetry, in combat. 10 00:00:56,940 --> 00:01:01,229 Yeah, well, thank you very much and thanks for inviting me. Yeah, it was great collaboration. 11 00:01:01,230 --> 00:01:06,360 I'm a mathematician in my day job because I talk about Ian and Chris, 12 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:10,079 the historians at York St John University, that we actually went pretty well together. 13 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:15,210 On the whole, they're interested in numbers and quantifying answers to questions, and I'm interested in military history. 14 00:01:15,450 --> 00:01:18,779 The one way it doesn't work is that my talk is produced using latex. 15 00:01:18,780 --> 00:01:23,850 Imagine PowerPoint. So actually there's going to be a disjunct between the talk where I switch to the history. 16 00:01:24,090 --> 00:01:29,819 In fact, we normally give this talk in combinations of two or three of us, so I'll try to talk through the material, 17 00:01:29,820 --> 00:01:34,080 which is principally Chris's events, and especially when we get to the Vietnam history. 18 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:41,550 Well, we'll get to ask you questions, but if I fall off and refer them back and onwards to in the original conception in this case, 19 00:01:41,910 --> 00:01:44,729 was to say, well, what are the historical data? 20 00:01:44,730 --> 00:01:50,940 Tell us about the nature of air power, air combat, and in particular about the nature of concentration in combat. 21 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,980 I'll talk about the embodiment of this word concentration and principles in war. 22 00:01:56,430 --> 00:02:02,160 It's a slightly later stage. But first of all, I'm going to tell you something of the maths and the way that we play with the data. 23 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:03,890 Now, people don't mind math jokes, 24 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,760 so I would characterise it as high school math and I think it's perfectly reasonable for you not to like what I'm about to do for you. 25 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:14,760 50 minutes. If you really don't like equations, shut your eyes and see if you get something out of what I say. 26 00:02:15,150 --> 00:02:21,360 And there are two points that which I might then tell you broken. And of course you might discover again after that the latter stages of the talk. 27 00:02:22,500 --> 00:02:26,520 We'll try to tease out what the implications are, what we will have discovered from the data. 28 00:02:28,170 --> 00:02:36,240 Okay. So we're not going to go into this line when you go in with some prejudices and, well, thinking about asking a lot of questions, 29 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,559 a natural assumption might be to tell you that the fighting strength of the force is in some way a 30 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:45,960 product of the number of units and say what you mean by unit and the effectiveness of those units. 31 00:02:49,510 --> 00:02:56,350 Of course, the original, thought provoking alternative also no more for them at this point is Manchester's famous Square Law, 32 00:02:56,350 --> 00:03:01,750 written down by Manchester in 19 1314 in a series of articles in Engineering magazine. 33 00:03:02,890 --> 00:03:08,290 And this is where I want you to start from here. I want to remind you, I'll tell you what Manchester is all about. 34 00:03:08,770 --> 00:03:18,130 And what he's trying to do is to understand the way in which the dynamics of combat might have changed as we go into the First World War. 35 00:03:18,640 --> 00:03:26,980 And he says, well, what would happen if you had a situation in which each side could cause its opponents losses in proportion to their own numbers? 36 00:03:28,150 --> 00:03:33,040 That seems an innocuous assumption, but actually it has significant implications. 37 00:03:33,640 --> 00:03:42,760 So first of all, let's just think about what it might be true. What that says is that effectively both sides have a target rich environment. 38 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:49,590 Both sides find it easy to acquire targets. In that circumstance? 39 00:03:49,980 --> 00:03:55,170 Well, if you know that high level calculus, you know, so I've written down here a rate of change, 40 00:03:55,500 --> 00:03:58,860 which is a little change in green numbers divided by a little change in time. 41 00:04:00,030 --> 00:04:07,370 And I've said that it's proportional to red numbers, capital R, with constant proportionality being a lower case constant for this purpose, this law. 42 00:04:08,490 --> 00:04:16,620 If I divide that equation by the analogous right, then what I get is something that you might call the loss ratio in the casualty exchange ratio. 43 00:04:17,850 --> 00:04:21,360 And it's that it matters as well is proportional to the force ratio. 44 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:27,990 And the trick you perform is to add up all the small changes in red and green numbers over the course of the battle. 45 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:35,100 And you discover something which has important and counterintuitive implications, which is that the difference between, 46 00:04:35,490 --> 00:04:41,760 uh, for each side, it's individual effectiveness multiplied by the square of its units is constant. 47 00:04:42,810 --> 00:04:48,390 That implies what Lanchester call the square law, because what it does is tell you how to combine numbers with effectiveness. 48 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,290 And there are two messages. The first is that numbers win. 49 00:04:53,070 --> 00:04:59,130 So suppose there were twice as many events as Green's, but Green is three times as individually effective. 50 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:04,560 But what's happening is that the two get squared in this square or to square this form, which being three. 51 00:05:08,130 --> 00:05:12,090 The other thing which is slightly less well known is that concentration is good. 52 00:05:12,540 --> 00:05:18,650 So it was meant to divide its forces. So then you have equal numbers of red, white and green. 53 00:05:18,930 --> 00:05:22,709 You know, green is three times the active green transpose red. And in fact, 54 00:05:22,710 --> 00:05:27,420 green has enough force left over to beat the remaining half of the red force 55 00:05:27,420 --> 00:05:31,530 easily and to finish off with about 60% of its original numbers remaining. 56 00:05:32,460 --> 00:05:37,200 So essentially you could ask why it was such a simple model have at least some longevity. 57 00:05:37,210 --> 00:05:46,530 One answer is because it confirms some prejudices and not just to set this alongside more easy and natural assumptions which do accord 58 00:05:46,530 --> 00:05:52,860 with our first assumption that perhaps fighting strength is proportional to the product's simple product with effectiveness and numbers. 59 00:05:53,280 --> 00:05:58,380 And he noted that if you have what we called ancient warfare, so the same numbers engaged on both sides, 60 00:05:59,010 --> 00:06:07,830 or if you had effectively his model in fire, but with the aiming not very good and important some density of opposing units. 61 00:06:08,250 --> 00:06:16,500 Either way, what happens is that the ratio of green losses to red losses is then constant 62 00:06:16,860 --> 00:06:20,220 and the outcome of that is that you have what's called Manchester's linear. 63 00:06:20,830 --> 00:06:24,720 The difference between effectiveness and numbers, not the numbers squared, is constant. 64 00:06:26,310 --> 00:06:32,130 Now you can mix the two up. So this goes back to my judgement in 1962. 65 00:06:32,550 --> 00:06:37,400 And so you said suppose Green's attacking and Red's defending so that red then 66 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:43,950 I can aim its fire but green can't and it's fires affected in proportion. 67 00:06:43,970 --> 00:06:55,710 Some density then the outcome actually is that this is the conserved quantity is linear in red numbers, quadratic square in green numbers. 68 00:06:56,430 --> 00:06:59,880 And the upshot is that green benefits more from numbers and concentration. 69 00:07:00,540 --> 00:07:07,190 But you know, just an extra half turning up. That means that green means it's individual effectiveness is twice as great. 70 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:11,760 Or is initial numbers be two times as great as it would have done in a symmetrical situation? 71 00:07:12,030 --> 00:07:16,200 Now summarise the slide by saying red in such circumstances has the defender's advantage. 72 00:07:18,300 --> 00:07:25,080 And so we're going to use models analogous to this for generalising to Internet and returning data and see what we can find. 73 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:30,660 And this is the sort of assumption that an engineer would typically like. 74 00:07:30,930 --> 00:07:41,190 What we've got is a scaling or the assumption that each size losses scale in some way with both their own and their opponents numbers. 75 00:07:44,140 --> 00:07:49,600 And for that model, you could again divide, rearrange and sum up all the little increments. 76 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:56,950 That's called integrating and find that the importance of numbers and concentration for each side is captured by a single number. 77 00:07:57,790 --> 00:08:02,440 I've written about numbers removed from red and green groups. 78 00:08:04,210 --> 00:08:11,920 I'll call them the exponents, and the values of those numbers capture the tactical implications of the gross model. 79 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:13,240 In particular, 80 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:20,260 Green should concentrate its force if its exponent is bigger than one for the square ball it was two and it should actually divide its force. 81 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:27,490 If karma were found to be less than one further to the extent to which the exponent try symmetric, they will be equal one side or another. 82 00:08:27,820 --> 00:08:33,030 The defender's advantage. Well, 83 00:08:33,690 --> 00:08:41,310 often we talk not about spiritual progress of the battle of about the casualty exchange ratio or loss ratio and how it depends on the force ratio. 84 00:08:42,630 --> 00:08:52,050 In this model, the casualty exchange ratio has over D also reached a little D as a small change in the small change in G divided by 14 85 00:08:52,860 --> 00:09:01,110 because the ratio of the incremental losses is in some way dependent on red numbers and green numbers in the linear law, 86 00:09:01,530 --> 00:09:08,460 you know, gamma to exponents on one. And then the casualty exchange ratio does not depend on numbers at all. 87 00:09:09,630 --> 00:09:15,500 If the two explosions are two, then the casualty exchange ratio is proportional to the force ratio. 88 00:09:15,810 --> 00:09:23,310 If you have the kind of asymmetry I talked about, then you would have that the casualty exchange ratio is 40 to 1 over. 89 00:09:23,910 --> 00:09:29,100 In this case, three numbers, but more broadly, one over some measure of the number of units involved in the fight. 90 00:09:34,060 --> 00:09:35,230 So John Gordon, 91 00:09:35,500 --> 00:09:43,150 who is kind of the last great advocate of a massive ad campaign and behind the ads to fund the campaign of the first Mesopotamian punitive expedition, 92 00:09:45,790 --> 00:09:50,649 said this. He said dependence with the casualty exchange ratio on the force ratio is not linear, it's exponential. 93 00:09:50,650 --> 00:09:55,180 And I'm afraid that's the kind of use of exponential that people who don't know math should avoid. 94 00:09:55,930 --> 00:10:04,150 He cites a 1970 study of Korea in World War Two, which I read later, and it's absolute rubbish. 95 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:15,340 His analysis of that in Fairbanks. Okay, now if you shut your eyes because of the equations, you might try opening them again. 96 00:10:15,340 --> 00:10:20,500 Now, because I'm going to show you some plots of data and your opinion is almost as good as anybody's. 97 00:10:21,790 --> 00:10:24,850 What I've done there is for the Battle of Britain to plot. 98 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:31,870 Actually, the logarithms have a detail that doesn't match up to your point of view and the casualty exchange ratio against the force ratio. 99 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,720 So if you believe in the swindle, 100 00:10:34,870 --> 00:10:43,540 you have to convince yourself that the best explanation of that data is yet a straightforward diagonal line going from bottom left to top right. 101 00:10:44,620 --> 00:10:49,749 And if you believe that and as a force planner, you wanted to make decisions on the basis of that, 102 00:10:49,750 --> 00:10:52,780 I would say you would go very wrong and so would the statistical tests. 103 00:10:54,590 --> 00:10:58,340 Do the same for the Pacific Air War, 1942. 104 00:10:58,340 --> 00:11:03,890 To fight here on God's green is the Americans, ours, the Japanese. 105 00:11:04,850 --> 00:11:14,389 Once again, you have to believe if you believe in the all that there is a diagonal line explaining a high proportion of that data, that fortune. 106 00:11:14,390 --> 00:11:23,660 But it actually explains some of the R-squared is less than 5% for both of these plots, which is each data point is the result of a battle. 107 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:28,430 Yeah. Okay. So Battle of Britain is today's Pacific Air War. 108 00:11:28,430 --> 00:11:31,579 It's sometimes day, sometimes it's periods of two or three days. 109 00:11:31,580 --> 00:11:35,520 It's individual engagements, things. In this case, this is carrier engagements typically. 110 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:44,270 And there are a lot of something to do with aggregation of data, which I'm not going to have time to go into or talk with the appropriate audience, 111 00:11:44,270 --> 00:11:49,640 but I can talk to anybody who's interested about what's really going on with the aggregation of data. 112 00:11:50,930 --> 00:11:57,080 Looking at situations like this warden's dataset is actually months worth of data from Korea, 113 00:11:57,500 --> 00:12:07,220 and once again, you have to be able to say a diagonal line. Well, maybe after last square, this next game is still, well, less than 10%. 114 00:12:10,250 --> 00:12:14,930 So let me do something else. Now that me look at loss ratios again sources this time for the Battle of Britain. 115 00:12:15,740 --> 00:12:23,540 That's a slightly better fit this time is this time I need if I believe that there is some asymmetry in this data, 116 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,850 I need to believe that that's a diagonal line down from top left to bottom. Right. 117 00:12:26,850 --> 00:12:30,950 So I first up slightly differently so that I'm looking for exactly the same thing 118 00:12:31,430 --> 00:12:37,850 and then a diagonal line from top left to right x just under 20% of the data. 119 00:12:39,050 --> 00:12:44,150 Now, if you're used to statistical tests, you'll know this in medical situations, 120 00:12:44,150 --> 00:12:52,130 you be quiet with a very small portion of the ask when explained, and you would believe above all in this number here, which is that okay? 121 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:57,110 At its simplest, it's the probability that you could have got a trend like that if actually if the 122 00:12:57,110 --> 00:13:03,470 data were entirely randomly distributed without any such trap for the Pacific War, 123 00:13:04,130 --> 00:13:11,180 it's slightly better this time, actually. A diagonal line top left to bottom right explains 30% of the variation. 124 00:13:12,620 --> 00:13:19,100 You can't really do anything with the Korean case here that these months worth of data that Wharton is quoting now, 125 00:13:19,790 --> 00:13:28,009 not good enough for us to do anything sensible. Before I could give you the plot of the through the same sort of trend that does not tell you 126 00:13:28,010 --> 00:13:33,350 much the better things to do here is to ask what are the exponents for these various campaigns? 127 00:13:33,650 --> 00:13:38,420 So here is the final score. Remember I said we can increase a number to reach five, 128 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:45,860 which I claim captures the tactical conditions which applied to the campaign for the Battle of Britain. 129 00:13:46,130 --> 00:13:53,150 The Germans exponent is 1.3, so that says they do well out of concentrating my numbers for the Royal Air Force, 130 00:13:53,150 --> 00:13:59,090 it's actually slightly less than one and one subtlety of the data aggregation issues. 131 00:13:59,540 --> 00:14:05,450 Is that to the extent to which you are aggregating individual engagements in this take in this game? 132 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,470 So to some extent the news, to a greater extent, if you put together larger periods, 133 00:14:09,890 --> 00:14:15,080 what you're doing is you're pushing these numbers towards war, so you're masking the effect. 134 00:14:15,650 --> 00:14:23,690 But of course, the reverse of that is that if you observe any effects at all, sort of any effect at all. 135 00:14:23,690 --> 00:14:28,670 So 1.3, the confidence interval is about 41 either way, and the same for the British. 136 00:14:29,180 --> 00:14:33,200 And if you have any effect at all, then probably the true effect is greater than this. 137 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:39,560 For the Pacific Air War, Japanese come out slightly less than one, the Americans at 1.3. 138 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:49,489 For Korea, obviously, I don't really believe that 0.1 for the Koreans that the confidence intervals are much, 139 00:14:49,490 --> 00:14:54,229 much worse because of the extreme aggregation that's going on in this. 140 00:14:54,230 --> 00:14:58,130 And this takes us to the water users. Now, as I said, the differences are understated. 141 00:15:00,110 --> 00:15:05,370 And of course, this is no mere academic question. I'll talk about this in more detail a little bit later. 142 00:15:05,540 --> 00:15:10,730 But let's just remember that actually this was the crucial tactical controversy of the Battle of Britain, 143 00:15:11,060 --> 00:15:17,420 which at the time was should the RAAF squadrons amass into wings of free squadrons or big wings of five or more before engaging? 144 00:15:17,690 --> 00:15:20,389 And that's all other things being equal. Also sort other things. 145 00:15:20,390 --> 00:15:28,040 They're not quite equal or could be as mere concentration of numbers advantageous for the RAAF equivalent. 146 00:15:28,130 --> 00:15:33,980 Is the RAAF exponent bigger and more concern? No, it isn't so. 147 00:15:33,980 --> 00:15:37,520 It's not so that this this this is potentially an important question. 148 00:15:41,300 --> 00:15:47,930 Let's find out who could look at the data from Vietnam. This time we're going to look at the data from Rolling Thunder from 1960 568, 149 00:15:48,290 --> 00:15:52,130 looking at a much wider level of data that we have from the previous campaigns. 150 00:15:52,910 --> 00:15:55,060 What we have is real engagement level of data. 151 00:15:55,070 --> 00:16:02,780 So individual engagements typically between single figures, typically four or five aircraft at most on each side. 152 00:16:04,070 --> 00:16:07,879 And perhaps the way to frame this group for the Manchester model was to say, well, 153 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:12,680 what we really want to know is, does a sortie tend to lead to a kill, a loss or neither? 154 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,200 So the effective use of your resources, 155 00:16:15,380 --> 00:16:20,570 civilians in sending planes up to do something to the enemy without getting something done for them, despite getting them to do so. 156 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:28,100 Now, this one, I got very nervous because even more timely than the Rolling Thunder data, which I haven't got previously. 157 00:16:28,340 --> 00:16:36,079 And as I said, and I think finger hovering over the bottom, I would I suppose being a proper scientist could change my normal mathematical physics 158 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:40,820 life in that the results of the analysis had become immediately to make contact with us, 159 00:16:41,330 --> 00:16:46,320 and then we would have to give up much of it. But I'm standing here today, so there's a effect. 160 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,630 In fact, it confirms the basic asymmetry that we saw earlier. 161 00:16:51,500 --> 00:16:53,320 What I tried to do is clean up the data a bit. 162 00:16:53,330 --> 00:17:04,310 And for the U.S. forces, I looked at F 1.5 on the sheet for the bombers and Air Force and the fighters, and as you might hope. 163 00:17:06,850 --> 00:17:12,040 When officials sorted the numbers, they tended to cause more Vietnamese North Vietnamese losses. 164 00:17:13,630 --> 00:17:20,890 U.S. bombing numbers tended to cause neither. So the US conclusion was actually pretty much the long history of war that you should construct 165 00:17:21,190 --> 00:17:25,600 strike packages in which your bombers are well supported by good numbers of Air Force. 166 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:34,420 For the North Vietnamese, well, their sorties tended to cause their own losses. 167 00:17:34,810 --> 00:17:38,260 Now, this is not to say that from the individual effectiveness, it doesn't mean they should never sortie. 168 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:45,220 It means that the effect of putting numbers together is to accentuate their own losses. 169 00:17:45,860 --> 00:17:48,909 You know, if you send out 20 planes, the message for the North Vietnamese is better, 170 00:17:48,910 --> 00:17:52,930 send them off in five packages of four separately and send them up together. 171 00:17:53,740 --> 00:17:59,950 So the North Vietnamese conclusion is sorties, apparently sorties to disrupt, try to avoid engagement. 172 00:18:00,350 --> 00:18:04,360 And I'll say more than that, more about that in the later sections. 173 00:18:05,170 --> 00:18:08,770 For the moment, let me try and summarise what we've got out of the rather limited data that we have. 174 00:18:09,820 --> 00:18:17,190 If you just look at the course gross data, you might say as a starting hypothesis, e-commerce is just a sack of jewels. 175 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:21,490 It's random, it's lineal. Of course we know that most of what's going on is not random. 176 00:18:21,790 --> 00:18:27,210 So you have that Rolling Thunder data that you can go down and look at what's happening in every individual engagement from the point of view, 177 00:18:27,230 --> 00:18:35,380 the overall numbers. If we ask, is anything going on, what we see might as well be random, except that to the extent to which it comes from this. 178 00:18:35,650 --> 00:18:40,810 Well, first of all, you must not believe the squiggle does not obey Manchester Square. 179 00:18:43,120 --> 00:18:48,399 But I think it's reasonably safe to say that whilst there might be some lancastrian 180 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,300 advantage in numbers and concentration for the attacker of surface targets. 181 00:18:53,950 --> 00:19:01,509 There is none for the defender. If we did reverse even and I guess my take home message for the military analysts would be to say that combat 182 00:19:01,510 --> 00:19:09,190 is 80% linear and maybe 27 20% asymmetric is not going to win the battle for you if you're outmatched, 183 00:19:09,550 --> 00:19:19,770 but it is at least something to think about. Okay, so at this point, we'll take a woman at break as I attempt to switch over to the first powerful. 184 00:19:21,790 --> 00:19:26,050 I'm not used to Windows eight. How do I minimise that thing? No. 185 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:35,680 Okay. Not one yet. How did you get that cynical? 186 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,120 And is this going to be a lot more conservative? That's right. Okay. 187 00:19:40,180 --> 00:19:45,790 Okay, great. So let's go back and think about what really to start with. 188 00:19:46,120 --> 00:19:54,849 And for me, there was a nice historical study done that in Manchester thinking about annual fact in 19 3014, 189 00:19:54,850 --> 00:20:00,070 but then publishing his conclusions as a chapter in a book on aircraft in warfare from 1916. 190 00:20:00,790 --> 00:20:07,540 I think that just was a bit forgotten. That's how seriously people always talk about doing it as the first great proponent of strategic power. 191 00:20:07,540 --> 00:20:13,569 But Lanchester has the concept of air superiority and as you can see there in his book, and then of course, 192 00:20:13,570 --> 00:20:20,470 25 years later in the same nation, we had two pilots, the first great purely attritional and admiral. 193 00:20:20,860 --> 00:20:28,990 And in the intervening time, you have 25 years for the RAF to develop its ideas and traditions. 194 00:20:30,340 --> 00:20:34,329 I thought it seemed like rather nice study to go back to the gathering of papers and trying to look at how 195 00:20:34,330 --> 00:20:41,020 the Orient formed its conceptions of what it had to do in the 20 years prior to the Battle of Britain. 196 00:20:42,220 --> 00:20:49,120 And in fact, a key figure here is only fuller. So you may remember Fuller became out of the matter and was decisive. 197 00:20:49,150 --> 00:20:56,860 And I that probably my favourite of his works is actually a 1926 book called Foundations of the Science of War. 198 00:20:57,370 --> 00:21:02,530 There's all sorts of interesting stuff in it, but he frames it in this mad, cultish, mystical. 199 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:14,130 So but he wrote down some principles of war in 1960, and it was amazing the extent to which the various services adopted them quickly. 200 00:21:15,790 --> 00:21:21,260 That's a minute. But let me say something about some things that you mentioned, the foundations of the science of war. 201 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,249 He was a friend of Manchester's and also decentralised. 202 00:21:24,250 --> 00:21:32,590 So in the symmetrical aim fire model, the force of 50,000 will match to forces of 30,040 thousand reaching them sequentially. 203 00:21:34,540 --> 00:21:40,600 And as he puts it, kind of ships a canal, for example, going to the bottom, not as an act of God, but as an act of mathematical certainty. 204 00:21:41,980 --> 00:21:47,950 It's also true in Manchester mobiles that Manchester 85, when it's an outnumbered force, suffers an accelerating rate of loss. 205 00:21:48,220 --> 00:21:57,310 One of the copious notes on that that's important. Important is that so far he's the only person writing in that time who understands. 206 00:21:57,310 --> 00:22:03,280 He makes the point that the implication of Manchester's more is the concentration is no longer about mass. 207 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:10,330 It's about concentrating firepower. So if you have long range aiming weapons which give you the conditions of Manchester's war, 208 00:22:10,690 --> 00:22:16,600 that everybody can find a target, then if a long range, we don't have to be together. 209 00:22:17,350 --> 00:22:23,679 And of course, in the first place I saw this written down was by the Captain Warren Harding in the Naval Review in 1910, 210 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:28,659 who makes the point in the context of naval concentration that as gun range increases, 211 00:22:28,660 --> 00:22:34,630 as it was doing rapidly at that time, actually concentration becomes a matter of geometry rather than of mass. 212 00:22:35,380 --> 00:22:40,390 I guess, come to think of it like military history, another example would be to think of the two opposing conceptions of mass in Napoleonic 213 00:22:40,390 --> 00:22:45,880 wars for the IS column for Wellington aligned with Fight for African Advance. 214 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:52,930 That's interesting. But anyway, so for those principles down the ways they went and first of all, 215 00:22:52,930 --> 00:22:57,400 the field service regulations in Britain and also rather rapidly in the States, 216 00:22:58,030 --> 00:23:02,200 straight from there into the operations of the first operations manual of the Royal Air Force. 217 00:23:03,610 --> 00:23:09,099 The Royal Air Force set up Staff College Andover, which came with essentially the same series of lectures for 20 years. 218 00:23:09,100 --> 00:23:12,009 And one other encounters, Tommy Davis people, is coming. 219 00:23:12,010 --> 00:23:17,440 Churchill has obviously been working through the same archives we have, but they didn't really seem terribly interested in ideas. 220 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:24,580 From the outside, it was more about entrenched, entrenching and being themselves out of position on how to use aircraft. 221 00:23:25,030 --> 00:23:33,090 And of course, the usual discussion is about the use of the former, but actually there was a lot said about the use of fighters tactically. 222 00:23:33,190 --> 00:23:35,770 Mallory Theorising About what, in 1929, for example, 223 00:23:36,570 --> 00:23:44,250 and this reaches its culmination might for us in the lectures in 1939 and was enforced on collection. 224 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,040 And it's clear that I haven't quite decided what to do. 225 00:23:48,100 --> 00:23:52,240 So you have wing commander Abbey Ellwood saying the ultimate aim of fighters is to stop enemy attacks. 226 00:23:52,510 --> 00:23:58,360 Good to do this. They must obviously intercept and engage enemy bombers, if possible, before they reach their objectives. 227 00:23:58,820 --> 00:24:06,000 Okay, good. But defenders might face multiple incoming raids against different targets. 228 00:24:06,010 --> 00:24:11,890 How should we respond? An element says you should avoid nibbling at any every enemy formation, 229 00:24:12,250 --> 00:24:17,100 as opposed to bringing maximum force to bear on certain raids with the objective of destroying them utterly. 230 00:24:17,740 --> 00:24:20,979 Now, he doesn't say why that's what he thinks you should do. 231 00:24:20,980 --> 00:24:27,550 And there's clearly at least tension with his previously stated aim of disrupting said enemy raids. 232 00:24:29,350 --> 00:24:34,000 I'm so we find ourselves approaching the Battle of Britain as the dazzling map. 233 00:24:36,820 --> 00:24:41,620 So you had 11 groups down here commanded by Kick-off and 12 group here. 234 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:49,000 Come on, the boys, preferably Mallory. And the attack was likely to come from France and Belgium, principally. 235 00:24:49,420 --> 00:24:55,150 But of course, before the war, the conception was very different. The expectation was that the attack would come over the North Sea. 236 00:24:55,990 --> 00:24:59,260 And then your organisation looks a lot more sensible. 237 00:24:59,710 --> 00:25:05,920 This evil 13 group here that's hard to reach, but 12 and 11 and then ten in the rear, which we over in the southwest. 238 00:25:07,390 --> 00:25:15,760 So tragically, Mallory, who is the commander of the group, would have expected to be very involved in the battle before the fall of France. 239 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:23,190 That's the German view of the situation. And let's have a let's look at the protagonists. 240 00:25:23,580 --> 00:25:27,510 So Hugh Dowling, famous quote, The founding system of the Fight Command. 241 00:25:28,110 --> 00:25:31,650 And Keith Park, the commander of 11th. Very much a pragmatist. 242 00:25:33,750 --> 00:25:39,570 I guess if you don't know the doubting system, there's a lovely paper called The Information System Won the war. 243 00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:43,560 Slightly hubristic, but the information system won the Battle of Britain. It's a reasonable position. 244 00:25:44,140 --> 00:25:50,610 But you have to remember that no other Air Force was correct in 1939 had any such just the only conception of a system. 245 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,889 Radar was a small part of it, but you had radar and then the observer corps voting information. 246 00:25:55,890 --> 00:26:00,120 You had the big votes and then sending the information out to the sector. 247 00:26:01,500 --> 00:26:05,670 So it's a group and sector level that was very much down in the system. 248 00:26:05,670 --> 00:26:09,150 And part was the guy in the 11th group who had to make it work. 249 00:26:09,690 --> 00:26:19,290 And in the back fuming were travelling married in 12 group to the north and of course acting squadron leader Douglas Bonner Duxford at the time. 250 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:25,469 And they were the people who the maintenance of the big wing the idea that what you 251 00:26:25,470 --> 00:26:29,250 should do is to master your fighters before putting them into action against the enemy. 252 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:35,700 Paul had a much more difficult situation to face because the Luftwaffe would send out 253 00:26:35,700 --> 00:26:40,200 planes and I suspect they would begin accumulating planes on the ground to overcome. 254 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,710 That would not necessarily presage a raid. 255 00:26:44,430 --> 00:26:53,040 So part had to do with many things and he had to be very sparing with his forces in order to be able to be sure of intercepting, 256 00:26:53,250 --> 00:26:56,700 at least at a small force, every raid as a, I guess, 257 00:26:56,700 --> 00:27:02,279 one way of thinking about it like this you think of Nathan Bedford Forrest smacks in that first of 258 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:08,070 the most if you come always to both you have to choose between the first and the most and part. 259 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,510 Very definitely chose first. He said in a memo to his squadron commanders, 260 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:18,780 It's better to have even one squadron of our fighters above the enemy than a wing of three flying up to meet them from beneath. 261 00:27:21,180 --> 00:27:25,710 And I guess the tension between these opposing views began to come out most 262 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,960 when the Luftwaffe to switch this offensive to London on the 7th of September. 263 00:27:31,830 --> 00:27:34,960 Is it usually portrayed as a mistake? 264 00:27:35,610 --> 00:27:39,930 But I didn't really know what I had to do. And you can have to destroy the RDF. 265 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,520 I thought a bit more and you have to destroy things. 266 00:27:42,540 --> 00:27:49,350 Command didn't really know whether that meant destroying the factories or the fields or bringing five command into the skies. 267 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:54,030 Going to London meant they felt they could be sure of bringing five command into the air. 268 00:27:55,740 --> 00:28:00,230 And the first use of big wings was around this time 11. 269 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:06,090 We would typically complain that by the time the big win got itself sorted out and ready to attack again and again, he was already going home, 270 00:28:06,510 --> 00:28:12,330 as Peter Townsend puts it, especially not mine, but in the intervening time because airfields had been bombed with bits. 271 00:28:15,540 --> 00:28:19,520 Let me go to the data. So without thinking, it's all about the dates actually. 272 00:28:19,530 --> 00:28:24,830 So you begin by going to look at the data and trying to see if there's any trend in the data, any lack of spatial narrative in the Time series. 273 00:28:24,990 --> 00:28:29,700 In mathematical terms, there is a really but there are actually two phases to the Battle of Britain. 274 00:28:29,700 --> 00:28:34,769 The first more intense and it's absolutely clear the first phase ends on the 15th of September 1940, 275 00:28:34,770 --> 00:28:37,080 which used to be celebrated as Battle of Britain Day. 276 00:28:38,340 --> 00:28:44,010 And by this time, I've been trying to make the military really believed that big wave was effective. 277 00:28:45,660 --> 00:28:51,870 I'll say a bit more about why in a minute. But let me come, first of all, to the infamous AM industry meeting of 17th October 1940. 278 00:28:52,530 --> 00:28:56,489 And if you thought a bit about Lanchester models and you've been through the archives, 279 00:28:56,490 --> 00:29:02,550 then there are all sorts of ironies in what is said in this meeting, because the people clearly not are not as numerous as they need to be. 280 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:08,100 So it was agreed. Also the mismatch in the minutes that the more we can outnumber the enemy, the more we should shoot them. 281 00:29:08,550 --> 00:29:14,940 Yes, but you've got to think about the exchange ratio. You've got to shoot them down in disproportionately greater numbers. 282 00:29:15,810 --> 00:29:20,670 It's much more economical to put up 100 against 1200 against 112 against hunger. 283 00:29:21,150 --> 00:29:28,440 Yes. But is it better to put the phone up at once or them sequentially and make lots of 12 straight and straight out? 284 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,740 It's not too clear. And that's a lot of this discussion. 285 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:39,749 And it's clear that, you know, it's infused with this sense that concentration means mass in numbers and part can be found. 286 00:29:39,750 --> 00:29:48,180 It seems to us very hard to make it clear why they're more problematic and parsimonious approach might have been better. 287 00:29:49,020 --> 00:29:53,669 And so, as I said, the analysis of the loss ratios reveals no British advantage. 288 00:29:53,670 --> 00:29:55,620 When large numbers are, we have to engage. In fact, 289 00:29:55,620 --> 00:30:02,640 the reverse and there's an interesting problem that if you've been an analyst and operations research analyst doing this analysis at the time, 290 00:30:03,090 --> 00:30:06,180 you might have reached the reverse conclusions because an overstatement. 291 00:30:07,050 --> 00:30:17,820 So both sides would tend to overstate the number of kills, but they would disproportionately oversleep over time as. 292 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,190 Higher power than one of the total numbers involved. 293 00:30:21,490 --> 00:30:27,640 In other words, the the ratio of claimed kills to numbers engaged actually increased with numbers engaged. 294 00:30:28,210 --> 00:30:33,460 And that false because if they had used claims numbers and done the analysis, 295 00:30:33,610 --> 00:30:39,550 they would actually reach the reverse conclusion that the Army would have been doing better when large numbers of that were up. 296 00:30:40,030 --> 00:30:44,229 Although of course, actually there's no excuse for claiming because the German people shot down, 297 00:30:44,230 --> 00:30:50,610 it landed on the base and then you could check it wasn't actually happening. But they didn't seem to be very quick about doing that. 298 00:30:50,620 --> 00:30:55,540 And there was still the impression that was getting the docs version in 12 group was that bad? 299 00:30:55,540 --> 00:30:59,019 Big Wings had been very effective and they hadn't in the fact they caused more 300 00:30:59,020 --> 00:31:06,010 people to die in 1941 when the matter was taking large quite a sweeps over France, 301 00:31:06,070 --> 00:31:11,410 which again thought they had done well at actually getting shot down in large numbers by the looks of cold desert, 302 00:31:11,410 --> 00:31:16,000 the British rose of flames in the autumn of so aggressive idiots. 303 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,250 And so that's natural Britain. Let me see if I can move on to thirds now. 304 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:30,399 Would you be able to answer a question? Absolutely. And you ask the question, what was the mechanism by which they're shooting down more planes? 305 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:36,330 When there's more than that, is it that it's quick to move to the next target, the World War? 306 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,270 They're not shooting down war planes, and they're more than they're not that big, he said. 307 00:31:42,730 --> 00:31:46,600 And the Germans were able to shoot down the bigger wings disproportionately. 308 00:31:46,990 --> 00:31:56,770 Oh, right. Okay. So the Germans had said so in a sense, and the idea of the importance of numbers through the twenties and thirties, 309 00:31:57,220 --> 00:32:04,930 and especially the feebleness of the Ottomans, the fighters meant that you believed that what you had to do was to attack the bombers in, 310 00:32:05,230 --> 00:32:09,280 uh, you got maybe in a line of three or four and go into them sequentially. 311 00:32:10,810 --> 00:32:16,960 The Germans led to the Spanish Civil War very rapidly. The fact that didn't work was part of the reason it wasn't clear enough. 312 00:32:17,410 --> 00:32:25,270 And they switched to using what they could from a perpetually loose force of fighters border. 313 00:32:25,300 --> 00:32:29,590 Actually, it wasn't the same kind of tactic themselves independently. In the end, we in the fall. 314 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,100 And of course the US Navy evolved from similar ideas later on. 315 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:41,230 But in 1940 and 41, the manuals still said that what you should do is deploy information. 316 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:51,940 So okay for you, but also larger numbers. And so the RAAF would take these Spitfires over France in formation, the one in nine to be high up over. 317 00:32:51,950 --> 00:32:56,830 They just go straight through, straight through them, go shoot down something on the way straight off. 318 00:32:57,130 --> 00:33:04,750 Yeah. And then spend one pass and go oh maybe 1000 barrels. 319 00:33:06,700 --> 00:33:10,050 Um hmm. Okay. 320 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:18,430 So moving on from the Battle of Britain, what we want to think about now is American doctrine, 321 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:24,280 because American doctrine, ever since the war likes to conflate concentration with mass. 322 00:33:24,550 --> 00:33:32,740 It seems to me, especially U.S. Air Force doctrine. So, of course, the American experience in 44, 45 was a bit of a step up over its own territory. 323 00:33:34,540 --> 00:33:38,850 But actually, there was a long history, which was, of course, very different from 1940, 324 00:33:39,220 --> 00:33:42,130 which is that in 1940, Britain was outbuilding Germany in fighters. 325 00:33:42,730 --> 00:33:47,890 Whereas the advantage in materiel of the Allies in 1944 to 45 was absolutely enormous. 326 00:33:49,060 --> 00:33:54,340 Anyway, the American experience led them to set up a strategic air command on the coast of Somalia in 1946. 327 00:33:55,690 --> 00:34:02,739 And this conception of the importance of mass wasn't really dented by their experience in Korea, where B-29s were shot down in large numbers, 328 00:34:02,740 --> 00:34:08,110 they rationalised that it has been due to the rather to the relative technological backwardness of the B-29. 329 00:34:12,150 --> 00:34:18,840 Which meant that they came into the Vietnamese Vietnamese war believing that a massed air campaign 330 00:34:19,620 --> 00:34:26,070 directed to North Vietnam would sap the political will of the North Vietnamese to win the war. 331 00:34:27,060 --> 00:34:35,040 This turned out not to be quite right. The first thing to say, perhaps, is that the North Vietnamese have an integrated air defence system. 332 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:41,760 The Americans have faced ground fire of all kinds, surface to air missile guns, everything, and lost a lot of bombers, 333 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:54,020 especially the North Vietnamese, with using apparently outdated planes make 17 some 1921 was much faster than matched country's speed with. 334 00:34:56,270 --> 00:35:02,660 But actually at low levels and with a lot of wing and quite good manoeuvrability. 335 00:35:03,050 --> 00:35:06,560 The older mates were pretty good. They never had a kill ratio. 336 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:12,560 Anything like is like 1 to 1. The Americans were always ahead, but they could be effective if used, right? 337 00:35:15,770 --> 00:35:21,110 The North Vietnamese had a ground control intercept system which made sure that they could be parsimonious 338 00:35:21,110 --> 00:35:25,850 with their forces and get them into the places where they were needed only and minimally to disrupt. 339 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:35,760 And what tends to happen as we saw that the US Air Force would have reached the correct conclusion 340 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:40,460 in thinking that it had to escort its strike packages properly with plenty of air force. 341 00:35:41,570 --> 00:35:44,930 But there was great attritional strain placed on U.S. air forces. 342 00:35:45,230 --> 00:35:52,219 And the fact that the logic of saying that the U.S. Air Force should make sure that it is bombers are properly escort, 343 00:35:52,220 --> 00:35:56,180 it meant that this additional strain is going to be all the greater. 344 00:35:56,690 --> 00:36:00,260 And as I say, they never beat the North Vietnamese Air Force, that particular ratio. 345 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:06,380 But the North Vietnamese Air Force was never destroyed, was always able to contest attacks on its own airspace. 346 00:36:12,390 --> 00:36:15,840 So here I'm looking more hesitant because I'm wondering whether my colleague in Hollywood 347 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:21,660 goes for a straight read story and style paper that one commissioner has good points and. 348 00:36:27,330 --> 00:36:34,440 So as we said from Rolling Thunder, at least 1965 to 68, the square law was not going on. 349 00:36:34,740 --> 00:36:38,520 There was clearly some asymmetry in what was happening for the North Vietnamese. 350 00:36:39,870 --> 00:36:46,820 The best thing to do is to sort of passing parsimonious leads to disrupt the F, one and five as well. 351 00:36:46,830 --> 00:36:52,780 It was supersonic in principle, but actually it had rather inferior performance and tended to get shot down a lot. 352 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:57,540 My grandfather, I think I won't try and perhaps my dad, 353 00:36:57,540 --> 00:37:02,970 if I tried to describe in detail what actually went into US strike packages over North Vietnam. 354 00:37:03,330 --> 00:37:05,250 But you can see here what's going on. 355 00:37:05,300 --> 00:37:12,030 You have things like wild weevils, the chaff plagues, the attempts to try to disrupt the Vietnamese system before the bomb attack. 356 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,070 Bombing packages escorted by Air Force. 357 00:37:22,420 --> 00:37:28,390 So we would say that not only was the ad campaign unsuccessful in terms of achieving American strategic objectives, 358 00:37:29,350 --> 00:37:35,470 the American conception of a mass terror campaign was the right way to defeat the enemy in its homeland. 359 00:37:36,430 --> 00:37:47,110 Failed in this case because of the fear that these air forces ability to continue to challenge and to attract as opposed to is the American forces. 360 00:37:47,380 --> 00:37:52,240 And we would say that politically that contributed to American defeat in Vietnam because it wasn't the major factor. 361 00:37:52,250 --> 00:37:58,690 Certainly contributed. So let me now come on to that vicious civil war that happened in the Balkans three years ago, 362 00:37:59,290 --> 00:38:04,780 where actually surprising echoes of the same kinds of things going on. 363 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,650 We were I was struck by the memoir of Nigel Sharkey Ward. 364 00:38:11,670 --> 00:38:13,540 He's very combative in every sense. 365 00:38:14,950 --> 00:38:26,920 That's a striking echoes of what happened to Punk's approach in 1940 and also parks approach over mortar in 1942 to the conception of how 81 Squadron, 366 00:38:27,310 --> 00:38:34,480 the Sea Harriers Invincible should operate in attempting to prevent Argentinian attacks on a naval task force. 367 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:43,450 And of course, what happened was that the task force, when in the Falklands found also had missile surface to air missile systems, 368 00:38:43,450 --> 00:38:46,210 which did not work as well as they might have hoped in all cases. 369 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:51,400 But the point that's generally being made is that you don't necessarily need numbers. 370 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:57,700 And of course, that remember, the British task force did not have numbers, large numbers, disparity areas. 371 00:38:57,970 --> 00:39:03,430 They had to decide how to use very small numbers effectively and absolutely minimise losses. 372 00:39:04,270 --> 00:39:07,450 So the traditional view of concentration would have been to minimise losses. 373 00:39:07,450 --> 00:39:10,660 You've got to sortie in large numbers. But that wasn't the way it worked. 374 00:39:11,590 --> 00:39:19,840 Usually you could quite happily have just a package of two shot of two scenarios which proved tense enough to disrupt Argentinian attacks, 375 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:28,660 partly because certainly the Argentinean mirages tended to refuse combat, but often early stage not and involved all. 376 00:39:35,530 --> 00:39:41,680 And then you come on now back to the American experience in the Gulf War in 94, and we get back our old friend, John Warden. 377 00:39:42,370 --> 00:39:48,920 So John Warden, it was a great proponent of the master campaign. 378 00:39:49,270 --> 00:39:57,350 If. Okay. He considered that he was drawing lessons from history, including maps of the Battle of Britain. 379 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,040 But in his book, The Air Campaign, 380 00:40:01,310 --> 00:40:08,030 he doesn't really explain why it is that the British did well in the Battle of Britain without committing their full force. 381 00:40:08,990 --> 00:40:14,660 So he says that typically you don't you should make sure that all your possible sorties are floating. 382 00:40:14,660 --> 00:40:20,330 You should not, you know, keep forces in reserve or keep possibilities in reserve. 383 00:40:21,620 --> 00:40:24,050 Whereas I guess we would say that actually in the Battle of Britain, 384 00:40:24,170 --> 00:40:29,570 we could perceive the matter being rather like a reverse defence of Wellington Waterloo, 385 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:35,749 trying to keep your forces as a force in being largely out of range of the enemy forces. 386 00:40:35,750 --> 00:40:43,700 And in order to be able to optimise the use against heavy forces by fighting in your 387 00:40:43,700 --> 00:40:46,850 own preferred part of the flight envelope and on your you of your own territory. 388 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:54,260 So Rawdon, based on his experiences in Vietnam, said, well, no, let's do something different. 389 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:59,509 Let's try and take out the functionality of the Iraqi state by going straight 390 00:40:59,510 --> 00:41:03,829 through these levels of application through field in military population, 391 00:41:03,830 --> 00:41:06,830 infrastructure, but above all, try to get to the leadership. 392 00:41:07,700 --> 00:41:17,120 And of course, it worked very well, if you recall, but the Iraqi air force did not make any serious attempt to contest its airspace. 393 00:41:18,530 --> 00:41:27,800 We would say that this is not a campaign from which to learn or reinforce the lesson that mass intrinsically is a good thing in tactics. 394 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:35,890 So in terms of lessons for the near future. Well, as a drone, is it? 395 00:41:35,910 --> 00:41:45,560 No. Let's think about about unmanned combat aerial vehicles and how we might use them optimally. 396 00:41:46,730 --> 00:41:51,980 And you might say, well, they have a live performance, which absolutely does not match that of mankind at the moment. 397 00:41:52,910 --> 00:42:02,630 But if they can be deployed and disrupt and make it difficult for attacking forces to stick to their plans. 398 00:42:04,910 --> 00:42:09,980 If they can somehow begin to approach realising the concept of the missile here. 399 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,740 Nobody remembers that missile here from 1958. 400 00:42:13,550 --> 00:42:18,320 The American conception of the time was perhaps you didn't really need fighters, which could not fight anymore. 401 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,640 What you would do is you send up a big, low flown capsule. It was a. 402 00:42:23,110 --> 00:42:27,190 Something like a dog is certainly subsonic. 403 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,390 Loaded up with missiles and then use those at a distance. 404 00:42:32,140 --> 00:42:40,900 In a sense, the the Tomcat Fenix combination of the seventies is uh, uh, pushing in the same direction. 405 00:42:41,860 --> 00:42:48,579 Then maybe you can certainly reinforce your ability to contested enemy attacks 406 00:42:48,580 --> 00:42:56,080 on your base by using unmanned aerial vehicles and you put a typhoon there. 407 00:42:56,470 --> 00:43:04,600 Something that often strikes us is that attempts to combine roles in a single combat aircraft can be 408 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:09,670 slightly dangerous in that you really want to put an expensive typhoon where it can get hit by gunfire. 409 00:43:10,390 --> 00:43:28,890 Um. So let me try and draw things together. 410 00:43:30,180 --> 00:43:35,489 We would say that during the Battle of Britain in Vietnam, of course, technology move the balance of forces in the direction of the defence. 411 00:43:35,490 --> 00:43:42,900 You have a genuinely integrated air defence, but information systems became much better than surface to air missiles came into existence. 412 00:43:45,810 --> 00:43:50,070 But the same principle of an economy of force achieved by the public in the Battle of Britain was 413 00:43:50,070 --> 00:43:54,060 certainly manifested by the North Vietnamese encountering the most powerful aircraft in history. 414 00:43:55,260 --> 00:44:00,060 And the American advantage, apparently regained by the massive offensive during the Gulf War, 415 00:44:00,900 --> 00:44:07,440 was effectively another example of architecture of overwhelming force in which the this sort of very slight, 416 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:14,760 subtle, systemic mathematical example advanced to the defence, did not come close to offsetting the material advantage of the attacking force. 417 00:44:15,450 --> 00:44:19,890 Said the Iraqi Air Force really made no serious attempt to contest the offensive. 418 00:44:21,910 --> 00:44:26,200 But we can certainly say if there were any planes in the sky, a lot of them are already. 419 00:44:26,770 --> 00:44:31,480 But there is no advantage in mere concentration of numbers in single engagements. 420 00:44:32,110 --> 00:44:39,189 And it is certainly still true that U.S. Air Force doctrine, to a large extent, reflects concentration of mass media, saying that's wrong. 421 00:44:39,190 --> 00:44:48,170 We pulled out the primacy of mass. Now, of course, in our days we like to think about warm temperatures always already having changed. 422 00:44:48,210 --> 00:44:55,920 But we would say that in a defensive air battle, well, at some point in the near future, we hope distant future, 423 00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:02,639 the air forces of some of the developed nations might have to face contested air space again, 424 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,580 and the lessons of history might have to be relearned yet again. 425 00:45:06,730 --> 00:45:14,910 And the lesson in 1940, 65, 68, and to that extent 82 is an effective defensive concentration does not depend on mass. 426 00:45:15,420 --> 00:45:19,200 The effective units of concentration can be as small as an individual aircraft. 427 00:45:19,980 --> 00:45:24,360 And the development of tactics and strategy for future air war certainly requires 428 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,450 a clear and detailed understanding of the evolution of the principles of war. 429 00:45:27,450 --> 00:45:31,770 So one can understand how we arrive at the position we have from their inception to the present day. 430 00:45:32,010 --> 00:45:34,920 And, of course, as my historian colleagues would say, has a historical process. 431 00:45:36,770 --> 00:45:42,169 And certainly there are great difficulties from the metaphorical maps interpreted 432 00:45:42,170 --> 00:45:48,550 by people who whose attempts to understand the dynamics of combat goes so far. 433 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:57,020 But I think there's a great doctrinal emphasis on the offensive in airpower and certainly in the USA. 434 00:45:57,710 --> 00:46:02,060 I guess the way I would say it is for the moment to have ten propositions confirmed. 435 00:46:02,060 --> 00:46:09,380 And he says that was always offensive. Yes, but what should the force do this just trying to frustrate and empower various propositions? 436 00:46:09,810 --> 00:46:17,330 It's not so obvious. And the assumption of symmetry between the forces and the incorporation of reason and power theory, 437 00:46:18,050 --> 00:46:24,830 we think deflects from the need to think about, to conceptualise what defensive power can and should do. 438 00:46:25,580 --> 00:46:25,980 So that.