1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:10,450 Thank you very much, thank you for the introduction. It's going to be a bit of a change in shifts in terms of the scale of the project I'm working on. 2 00:00:10,450 --> 00:00:16,810 That's the title of my project and I should say it's been funded by my senior fellowship, to my own debates and their fellowship. 3 00:00:16,810 --> 00:00:19,750 And it's a project that is a bit more theoretical in some ways. 4 00:00:19,750 --> 00:00:25,990 I again, to the one that that is, and although there is a strong theoretical component, and I think there is also overlap, 5 00:00:25,990 --> 00:00:33,400 as you would say, between some particular kind of principles, health principles and notions that are used in my project as well. 6 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:39,640 So I would like to start with just giving a definition of what I mean by a I just to make sure that we're all on the same page. 7 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:49,270 So I think I mean, computational systems used to resolve problems that would normally require human intelligent input to be resolved. 8 00:00:49,270 --> 00:00:57,790 And this is a technology that has been heralded as kind of bringing about a new, exciting revolution in health care. 9 00:00:57,790 --> 00:01:03,670 So A.I. has a great potential to improve health outcomes, as we've heard, as well as the individual, 10 00:01:03,670 --> 00:01:08,050 but also the population level assist cash-strapped health care systems like the 11 00:01:08,050 --> 00:01:12,910 NHS at the moment by significantly increasing efficiency and effectiveness 12 00:01:12,910 --> 00:01:23,340 in the way that we use resources and generally improve access to health care and health care services for the population and individuals as well. 13 00:01:23,340 --> 00:01:28,350 So some of the ways in which I can have a positive impact, particularly on population health, 14 00:01:28,350 --> 00:01:32,460 are through, for example, more effective prevention methods, 15 00:01:32,460 --> 00:01:40,140 providing more accurate early diagnosis of conditions, better monitoring of infectious diseases and assisting with epidemic prediction. 16 00:01:40,140 --> 00:01:49,350 We're going through the coronavirus epidemic at the moment, so air is one of these things that could definitely help kerb the spread of the disease. 17 00:01:49,350 --> 00:01:53,050 Also through personalised promotion of healthier living. 18 00:01:53,050 --> 00:01:57,870 So the thing about apps that they can give you advice on what to eat and how 19 00:01:57,870 --> 00:02:03,600 much to exercise and not exercise based on your particular health risk profile. 20 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:12,540 Also, air tools can be used in self-management of chronic diseases like diabetes or certain types of cardiovascular diseases, 21 00:02:12,540 --> 00:02:18,810 and also improve the efficiency of patient management on the ground for us to assess health care systems. 22 00:02:18,810 --> 00:02:24,300 We very often hear in the news how the waiting time in A&E are getting longer and longer, 23 00:02:24,300 --> 00:02:28,740 and patients cancer patients cannot access care as fast as they should, 24 00:02:28,740 --> 00:02:37,970 and there are already items developed and implemented in hospitals around the country to assist in dealing with these type of problems. 25 00:02:37,970 --> 00:02:42,470 And of course, it's not the first time that the health care and health systems are turning to technologies 26 00:02:42,470 --> 00:02:47,270 to kind of help them deal with and improve health outcomes and deal with problems as well. 27 00:02:47,270 --> 00:02:48,650 I mean, think of the stethoscope. 28 00:02:48,650 --> 00:02:56,330 It was one of these kind of first technology documents the hearing of healthcare professionals that could provide much more accurate diagnosis, 29 00:02:56,330 --> 00:03:04,520 that they could hear what was going on. Same with X-rays augmented our capacity to see inside the body without having to open the body up. 30 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,030 So it's as I said, it's not the first time that we have technologies coming in. 31 00:03:08,030 --> 00:03:14,600 But I believe that air is different because the aim of AI is not to augment our physical capabilities, 32 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:21,530 but in a way it's trying to augment our rational decision making capacity and lead to rational action. 33 00:03:21,530 --> 00:03:25,700 And it is this understanding of rationality, I think, 34 00:03:25,700 --> 00:03:31,560 as being the ability to compute solutions that would optimise certain values given 35 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:37,020 the available information that we have is what makes a different type of technology. 36 00:03:37,020 --> 00:03:46,880 I think that Stuart Russell called that calculative rationality, and I think it's one that can be truly disruptive in this area of health care. 37 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,400 And what I mean by disruptive. 38 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:56,900 What I mean is that it can fundamentally change our expectations and also our perception of what health care is about, what is trying to achieve. 39 00:03:56,900 --> 00:04:02,110 Also the role of healthcare professionals and the role of systems within that context. 40 00:04:02,110 --> 00:04:10,880 And with this in mind, I would like to turn to these three notions of I'm kind of particularly interesting theme of efficiency, accuracy and trust. 41 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:18,710 So as we try to draw from cloud as well and make before efficiency and accuracy are obviously clearly important for patients, 42 00:04:18,710 --> 00:04:22,820 for health care professionals and for the health care system as a whole. 43 00:04:22,820 --> 00:04:27,950 Having access to more accurate diagnoses or more accurate information about the spread of infectious 44 00:04:27,950 --> 00:04:34,790 diseases means a much increased probability to have a positive outcome and effectively save lives. 45 00:04:34,790 --> 00:04:39,680 Equally, greater efficiency and effectiveness in the way that we use our resources. 46 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:45,710 Time, like the time of health care professionals financial resources means waste avoidance and my ability to 47 00:04:45,710 --> 00:04:53,990 channel effort to the right place in the right way at the right time and again improve health outcomes. 48 00:04:53,990 --> 00:04:59,030 But what so what we're kind of theoretically facing in front of us and maybe, you know, 49 00:04:59,030 --> 00:05:03,770 maybe it is already kind of happening out there as some of the examples are coming already 50 00:05:03,770 --> 00:05:09,200 through is a kind of win win situation where patients benefit from more accurate diagnoses, 51 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:18,620 targeted screening prevention, better outcomes and health systems, increase efficiency, reduce costs and keep populations have that for longer. 52 00:05:18,620 --> 00:05:20,630 However, it is currently, I think, 53 00:05:20,630 --> 00:05:28,070 not quite certain whether the incorporation of A.I. into population health and healthcare systems in general will be as frictionless and 54 00:05:28,070 --> 00:05:35,840 as unproblematic as we would like to hope that it will be and how to address potential ethical issues that might arise in the context. 55 00:05:35,840 --> 00:05:43,520 And I think one of the issues that is particularly interesting and important that we need to address in this context is the issue of trust. 56 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,600 So the way I understand trust is like trust is a fundamental value of health care 57 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:52,340 provision and underpins the relationship between patients and the health care system. 58 00:05:52,340 --> 00:05:58,820 Patients trust health care professionals and the system as a whole because they believe that people working in it have the right skills, 59 00:05:58,820 --> 00:06:04,520 the right knowledge, the right expertise and also more latitude to care for them. 60 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:09,020 So we often hear how the NHS is the most trusted institution in the UK. 61 00:06:09,020 --> 00:06:14,090 So what characterises trust is an acceptance of and of uncertainty from the position of 62 00:06:14,090 --> 00:06:18,500 the patient and the position of vulnerability that the patients put themselves into, 63 00:06:18,500 --> 00:06:23,990 which is, however, justified because we have this belief that the people who are caring for us have the right skills, 64 00:06:23,990 --> 00:06:29,270 but also the right attitude towards us that they are, they have a good disposition towards us. 65 00:06:29,270 --> 00:06:36,710 So the question then becomes like if we start outsourcing clinical expertise or the skin side of trust to machines, 66 00:06:36,710 --> 00:06:42,590 would that challenge this trust and alter perceptions regarding health care professionals and their role within the system? 67 00:06:42,590 --> 00:06:44,730 So it is a question of whether patients, 68 00:06:44,730 --> 00:06:54,240 once they consider doctors and nurses as trustworthy professionals whose recommendations they ought to follow when when they went to see the. 69 00:06:54,240 --> 00:07:01,180 But trust is also important in the relationship that health care professionals develop with technologies and that technology providers as well. 70 00:07:01,180 --> 00:07:07,170 Companies developing a I already know that the consumer trust is crucial for the acceptability of that product. 71 00:07:07,170 --> 00:07:15,330 It is particularly important in care provision where the health care system has a fiduciary obligation for patients to always act that their best 72 00:07:15,330 --> 00:07:23,550 interests are what the doctors and nurses be confident to prescribe a self-monitoring choice to patients if they do not understand how they work. 73 00:07:23,550 --> 00:07:28,290 How should this agreement between health care professionals and A.I. systems be resolved? 74 00:07:28,290 --> 00:07:35,220 Should doctors override air produce recommendations or not? I think probably you are familiar. 75 00:07:35,220 --> 00:07:40,110 We are back with a IBM Watson Watson case. 76 00:07:40,110 --> 00:07:48,840 I think 2018 that developed a cancer diagnosis tool that was introduced in many hospitals to some hospitals in the US and within, 77 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,560 I think within the year or less than that, it was taken down. 78 00:07:52,560 --> 00:08:00,120 And the main reason was that the healthcare professionals do not trust the tool, so they wouldn't use it. 79 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:04,650 However, I mean, it is true that as A.I. develops and improves, I mean, the hope, 80 00:08:04,650 --> 00:08:10,170 at least is that and as the accuracy of prediction above gets better and better, 81 00:08:10,170 --> 00:08:19,260 and these tools improve the accuracy that these tools will kind of replace the need for for trust. 82 00:08:19,260 --> 00:08:27,030 Some some theory is kind of suggesting that. So the hope is that their risk profile, introduction and diagnosis becomes more accurate. 83 00:08:27,030 --> 00:08:33,060 With the use of A.I. in big data, healthcare professional patients and the public will not need to trust anymore by 84 00:08:33,060 --> 00:08:38,190 the will and instead to rely on intelligent machines to guide health behaviour. 85 00:08:38,190 --> 00:08:45,300 So the likely effects of a health care system that is reliable but not necessarily trusted or trustworthy are unclear. 86 00:08:45,300 --> 00:08:52,680 Could it improve health outcomes and save more lives? Or that lead to the reinforcement of more reductionist view of health care, 87 00:08:52,680 --> 00:08:58,020 which has been so far associated with poor health outcomes and patient outcomes? 88 00:08:58,020 --> 00:09:07,170 And beyond this kind of practical concerns is something intangible yet more important lost if trust becomes obsolete in the health care system. 89 00:09:07,170 --> 00:09:10,560 So these are some of the questions that my project is trying to. 90 00:09:10,560 --> 00:09:13,110 I'm trying to answer. So I would like to explore. 91 00:09:13,110 --> 00:09:22,470 I'm starting to explore this relationship between efficiency, accuracy and trust in an AI augmented population, health and health care. 92 00:09:22,470 --> 00:09:28,020 So questions like what is the value and meaning of these notions in this new in this context? 93 00:09:28,020 --> 00:09:32,370 Should we start shifting our understanding of what is required in health? 94 00:09:32,370 --> 00:09:40,500 Or should we try to steer technology to accept some and incorporate certain established values into their system as well? 95 00:09:40,500 --> 00:09:44,310 And I think these are both practical questions, but also importantly, 96 00:09:44,310 --> 00:09:49,770 ethical questions that we will need to resolve as we move forward with with AI in healthcare. 97 00:09:49,770 --> 00:09:54,048 Thank you very much.