1 00:00:01,380 --> 00:00:05,840 This gives me great pleasure to introduce Dr. Hugo Slim today. 2 00:00:06,530 --> 00:00:14,240 Hugo is a visiting fellow of Iraq. I feel that the the visiting in the title is probably a little bit of a misnomer 3 00:00:14,510 --> 00:00:18,470 given that Hugo has been with us right from the right from the beginning. 4 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:24,470 And his country is a huge piece of the work that he like has done in the time that we've been around. 5 00:00:25,970 --> 00:00:32,390 Hugo has a very rich background and experience in issues to do with humanitarian ethics. 6 00:00:32,750 --> 00:00:36,890 He has worked for NGOs. He's worked for the United Nations. 7 00:00:37,310 --> 00:00:41,150 He has been a scholar and an academic for several years. 8 00:00:41,510 --> 00:00:45,889 He's worked as a mediator and he has advised corporate clients. 9 00:00:45,890 --> 00:00:52,430 So he's sort of seen it from the full range of perspective and pleasure to have 10 00:00:52,430 --> 00:00:56,960 him speak today and to get some of the benefits of his experience and his wisdom. 11 00:00:57,260 --> 00:01:03,620 So the topic today is humanitarian ethics, you know, conflict agency dilemmas and responsibilities. 12 00:01:04,430 --> 00:01:06,739 Dafoe Thank you very much. And thank you all for coming. 13 00:01:06,740 --> 00:01:12,950 And I hope you got enough to eat and that you're able to munch away when I when I talk and starve in front of you. 14 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,649 I must I must say at first that this is really a work in progress, 15 00:01:18,650 --> 00:01:22,729 because one of the reasons is that this is a more permanent feature than I used to be, 16 00:01:22,730 --> 00:01:29,660 is that I am not starting up a project on humanitarian ethics, which we've got some funding for from about five NGOs, 17 00:01:29,660 --> 00:01:33,740 Oxfam, Save the Children, British Red Cross, Carrefour and World Vision and People. 18 00:01:34,130 --> 00:01:41,930 So I am going to spend the next year here at Elac working to get a better understanding of ethical problems in humanitarian work. 19 00:01:41,930 --> 00:01:48,499 But also, I hope, producing some quite practical outputs that will help aid agencies become more 20 00:01:48,500 --> 00:01:53,300 ethically capable and confident and hopefully more ethically judicious as well. 21 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,070 So this is a work in progress, 22 00:01:55,070 --> 00:02:00,070 and I'm afraid I'm not going to deliver you all the solutions to every ethical dilemma that a humanitarian agency ever has. 23 00:02:00,090 --> 00:02:08,120 It's not going to be about that at all, in a way. But I hope this might in a way be the first discussion of our research project, 24 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:13,910 and that you will bring some ideas and questions to the table when we when we have our discussion as well. 25 00:02:14,180 --> 00:02:23,870 So let's hope we can do that. To start with, of course, it's important to say that there are some archetypal humanitarian agency dilemmas, 26 00:02:23,870 --> 00:02:26,780 and if I missed a few, it might get us in the mood. 27 00:02:27,380 --> 00:02:38,000 And of course, the most poignant and tragic of all, in a way, is perhaps the experience of the ICRC during the Holocaust in World War Two. 28 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:42,110 And one can imagine, as it happened, 29 00:02:44,330 --> 00:02:55,940 the experience of the ICRC delegates who repeatedly knocked on the door of Auschwitz to ask to be admitted to be a humanitarian act in that context. 30 00:02:56,510 --> 00:03:04,760 And of course, we can also think of the masquerade in front of the ICRC at Treblinka in the Holocaust as well, 31 00:03:05,090 --> 00:03:12,560 when they were shown a model camp and the two delegates came away confused and impressed at what they had seen. 32 00:03:14,210 --> 00:03:23,210 And of course, we can also think from the Holocaust of those extraordinary moments when ICRC could do something, 33 00:03:23,210 --> 00:03:27,980 but it was desperate and tragic and late and in a sense, hopeless. 34 00:03:28,640 --> 00:03:39,770 So there are images of ICRC delegates running along the deportation trains in Greece, pushing food parcels through the window, the doors of the train. 35 00:03:40,070 --> 00:03:47,090 And there are similar examples of people like Frederick Bourne in the ICRC walking and driving 36 00:03:47,090 --> 00:03:54,409 alongside the deportation death marches that Eichmann finally led from Hungary and giving food, 37 00:03:54,410 --> 00:04:00,560 trying to argue with guards, trying to reason with the SS that these kind of ICRC images, of course, 38 00:04:02,780 --> 00:04:10,040 create issues of enormous ethical problem, ethical dilemma, ethical tragedy in humanitarian work. 39 00:04:10,340 --> 00:04:18,110 But more recently, of course, we can think of things like the World Food Programme deciding to work in North Korea around the famine map. 40 00:04:18,590 --> 00:04:33,740 And we can think also of agencies in Colombia and DRC setting up IDP camps for people who are now being displaced for a third or fourth time. 41 00:04:34,580 --> 00:04:38,389 So this whole notion of are we stuck in some cycle here? 42 00:04:38,390 --> 00:04:42,380 Are we playing in to some extension of a crisis of a conflict? 43 00:04:43,100 --> 00:04:53,720 And we can also think more recently of aid agencies working in the internment camps in Sri Lanka after the government offensive. 44 00:04:54,680 --> 00:05:00,740 And of course, we can think back a little further to to agency dilemma and ethical. 45 00:05:00,950 --> 00:05:08,450 Connie, when being invited by U.S. armed forces to jointly plan the invasion of Iraq with 46 00:05:08,450 --> 00:05:14,870 them and to plan the humanitarian action that could flow with the invasion force. 47 00:05:15,770 --> 00:05:22,070 So these are the kinds of things I suppose I would count as ethical moments for for humanitarian agencies. 48 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:31,160 And when they would tend to describe themselves as having this thing they might call an ethical dilemma or ethical agony of some kind. 49 00:05:32,660 --> 00:05:36,020 I'm going to try and do just a few things in the next half an hour. 50 00:05:36,020 --> 00:05:41,329 And so I'm going to try to think a little about humanitarian action in the context of global ethics today. 51 00:05:41,330 --> 00:05:46,580 So perhaps put it in its place as an extraordinary form of altruism, in fact, 52 00:05:46,580 --> 00:05:53,299 that we we have now that I want to look a little bit at the ends and means in humanitarian ethics as it is today. 53 00:05:53,300 --> 00:06:00,800 In other words, how humanitarians understand their own ethic, what they are trying to push as a moral project. 54 00:06:01,100 --> 00:06:10,490 Take that apart a little. And then thirdly, I'm going to look at categories of ethical problems that they would tend to present. 55 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:15,260 And those I think we're going to look at much more detail on in the year ahead and understand better. 56 00:06:15,860 --> 00:06:25,309 And then finally, I'm going to just posit some ideas around agency responsibility and what it would mean for an aid agency, 57 00:06:25,310 --> 00:06:30,230 humanitarian agency, to to move towards ethical solutions in its work. 58 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:40,520 But first, of course, I also want to recognise a little that ethics as a term, of course, doesn't just mean a single approach, a single thing. 59 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:51,560 There are, of course, as all of you named, varieties of schools and quaint, conflicting schools of approaches to ethics, how you decide on what to do. 60 00:06:51,860 --> 00:06:55,169 And I'm just going to talk about probably three or four of them. 61 00:06:55,170 --> 00:06:58,520 And the first one, of course, is virtue ethics, which of course, 62 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:08,530 we would trace back to Aristotle and the idea that a good life is lived with the aim of living a good life and in accordance with certain virtues. 63 00:07:08,540 --> 00:07:13,099 And of course, the the tradition of virtues is a very important and pervasive one. 64 00:07:13,100 --> 00:07:15,230 I'm having a bit of renaissance, as you name. 65 00:07:16,070 --> 00:07:24,740 The second one, of course, would be called the decent, logical tradition of ethics would be flagged with people like Emmanuel Kant, 66 00:07:25,100 --> 00:07:33,860 and it would be thinking very clearly about duties and rights and obligations and those mystical things called imperatives, 67 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:38,030 things you just have to do because they're right always to do. 68 00:07:38,900 --> 00:07:46,520 And then third, of course, emerging from practically minded empirical Brits, we would have the consequentialist school of ethics. 69 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,670 We would have utilitarian people who would say, you know, 70 00:07:49,700 --> 00:07:57,010 it is possible to decide on what to do now on the basis of the consequences you want and expect from a certain action. 71 00:07:57,020 --> 00:08:01,160 So you get rule based utilitarianism and things like that as another form. 72 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:10,940 And then of course, today we have to engage with postmodern ethics with an idea that there are no grand narratives to modernity, 73 00:08:10,940 --> 00:08:14,480 no grand goals we can pursue, that everything is fragmented, 74 00:08:14,900 --> 00:08:17,330 and therefore ethics becomes a highly localised, 75 00:08:18,410 --> 00:08:27,170 fragmented part of different little narratives that we have to negotiate without reference to some great goal. 76 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:33,889 So there's a for parts of ethics, which I think are playing at the moment in humanitarian thinking. 77 00:08:33,890 --> 00:08:43,010 So I thought it'd be worth flagging at the beginning. But moving on now to think about what place humanitarian action has in global ethics, 78 00:08:43,910 --> 00:09:00,320 it is an extraordinary thing today that there is the desire and the capacity to reach any person in any country suffering from war or disaster. 79 00:09:00,830 --> 00:09:09,170 And that is really quite a phenomenal change in the expansion of altruism in the last 50 years, really. 80 00:09:09,740 --> 00:09:19,130 So that whether you are in Congo or Burma or now Mexico or Nigeria, 81 00:09:20,330 --> 00:09:26,270 the chances are someone will turn up in something called a humanitarian agency and 82 00:09:26,270 --> 00:09:32,240 will make an effort to understand your needs and reach out to meet them somehow. 83 00:09:33,560 --> 00:09:36,680 And that really is, I think, quite phenomenal. 84 00:09:37,460 --> 00:09:44,870 And this seems to confirm the sort of ideas of moral progress that people like Peter Singer have been arguing for 85 00:09:44,870 --> 00:09:53,540 30 years and in a way that Adam Smith argued hundreds of years before Peter Singer that our moral sentiment, 86 00:09:53,750 --> 00:10:00,650 our sympathy, our fellow feeling, as Smith called it, is something that reaches beyond immediate. 87 00:10:00,710 --> 00:10:14,810 Yet circles of friendship and family and country and smiths fallen patriotism and actually becomes universal in its ability to empathise, 88 00:10:14,810 --> 00:10:16,700 sympathise and act. 89 00:10:17,630 --> 00:10:28,400 And of course, singer and today's evolutionary psychologists take this up much more biologically and in terms of evolutionary science. 90 00:10:29,060 --> 00:10:38,300 And Singer would argue, like many, that our species has developed altruism in a series of obviously what singer calls expanding circles of empathy. 91 00:10:38,540 --> 00:10:50,449 And the first one, of course, is kin based. I help my family, my parents, my children, my cousins, because I'm genetically driven to do it, 92 00:10:50,450 --> 00:10:54,290 because there's something in my DNA which says I want my DNA to survive. 93 00:10:54,300 --> 00:11:04,160 So there is some kind of kinship altruism that is observable in almost every animal and is considered to be the sort of core of our altruism. 94 00:11:04,670 --> 00:11:13,730 And then, of course, the second aspect that evolutionary psychologists, singer and everybody have noticed in altruism is reciprocal altruism. 95 00:11:14,450 --> 00:11:20,299 Because there comes another thing and it's an extraordinary thing. You can even look at birds giving warnings to other birds. 96 00:11:20,300 --> 00:11:27,140 You can see, you know, animals that they know each other helping each other and saving each other. 97 00:11:27,140 --> 00:11:30,740 And we do it. And it's on the basis of reciprocity. 98 00:11:30,740 --> 00:11:34,160 And it's you know, you do my life and I'll do your life. 99 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,430 It's that kind of scratch my back, I'll scratch yours, literally. 100 00:11:37,430 --> 00:11:43,610 And that's where people observe reciprocity emerging as a driver of altruism. 101 00:11:44,090 --> 00:11:52,960 But that very seldom goes beyond the group. And of course, Singer's great insight was that it is reasoned, 102 00:11:53,390 --> 00:12:04,130 it is thinking that allows us to make that extraordinary imaginary step and to take the objective position, as he calls it, of the other. 103 00:12:05,060 --> 00:12:11,780 And then when we start thinking of how the other might have interests and experience things, 104 00:12:12,350 --> 00:12:18,530 then we can imagine altruistically, way beyond our kin and way beyond our group. 105 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,000 And that, in a sense, evolutionary psychologists would argue, 106 00:12:23,210 --> 00:12:31,750 is what is happening now in the way that we spread out and feel the whole world to be of interest to us. 107 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:40,040 And we have an ability now that we do over and over again to take the position of distant unmet others. 108 00:12:40,490 --> 00:12:43,790 People who we've never known will never know and never meet. 109 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:48,170 And we demand moral action on their behalf and for them. 110 00:12:49,550 --> 00:12:51,440 So these expanding circles, I think, 111 00:12:52,130 --> 00:13:00,560 are manifest most evidently in humanitarian action today and its desire and capability to reach anyone in anywhere, 112 00:13:00,560 --> 00:13:06,799 anyplace experiencing armed conflict. So that's where this ethics sits, I think. 113 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:11,480 And it's not surprising, perhaps that it is a little confused, having grown so quickly in the last few years. 114 00:13:12,350 --> 00:13:18,380 And of course, we have to notice very early that it is still a little accidental in its system. 115 00:13:19,190 --> 00:13:23,200 The main organisation of humanitarian system is very western, 116 00:13:23,300 --> 00:13:31,910 very driven by money and agencies, huge aspects of Oriental or whatever you want to call it. 117 00:13:34,070 --> 00:13:39,440 Altruism are less easy to see massive patterns and trends of Islamic altruism, 118 00:13:39,770 --> 00:13:43,430 which operates in slightly different ways and not particularly organised. 119 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:47,190 And their profits are not blowing through the UN and other systems. 120 00:13:47,190 --> 00:13:50,360 So we, we don't observe that, but they are probably bigger still. 121 00:13:52,400 --> 00:14:01,610 So how does this expanding altruistic humanitarian project understand its own ethics? 122 00:14:03,260 --> 00:14:11,180 What is this organised humanitarian action believing of its morals, if you like. 123 00:14:12,530 --> 00:14:17,809 In the last 60 years there's been an enormous amount of writing of ethics by humanitarian agencies. 124 00:14:17,810 --> 00:14:21,350 They've been very keen to try to write down what they believe and get confessional, 125 00:14:21,350 --> 00:14:25,610 if you like, about about their professional, professional about it. 126 00:14:26,090 --> 00:14:30,440 And the first moment, of course, that was very important was in 1965, 127 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:41,450 when the great Swiss Geneve and ICRC lawyer John Piketty, when he wrote on behalf of the Red Cross, the Red Cross principles. 128 00:14:41,690 --> 00:14:51,030 And of course, they were seven principles of humanity, impartiality, neutrality, independence, and the other three that we named together. 129 00:14:51,390 --> 00:15:00,560 But what I mean voluntarism universally I can remember then of course, you know, people sort of thought the Red Cross did that and. 130 00:15:00,980 --> 00:15:04,850 But then in the nineties NGOs realised, gosh, waiting a lot of this war stuff too. 131 00:15:04,870 --> 00:15:09,760 Now we're right in the thick of Bosnia, we're right in the thick of Rwanda, Somalia, Angola. 132 00:15:10,660 --> 00:15:19,450 We better write our own version of this. So non Red Cross NGOs, under the guidance of the head of the Red Cross, wrote the Code of Conduct, 133 00:15:19,990 --> 00:15:26,200 which was first drafted in around 91, emerging really out of Somalia and getting a lot from Oxfam. 134 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,070 People like Peter Walker is not Tufts and Nick Doctor. 135 00:15:30,820 --> 00:15:35,860 And they came out with a very similar ten point code, which was very Red Red Cross based. 136 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:44,860 And then later in about 98, a thing called the humanitarian charter emerged, which linked those principles very directly to international law, 137 00:15:46,030 --> 00:15:52,420 the laws of Geneva around international humanitarian law and refugee law in particular, 138 00:15:52,900 --> 00:16:01,990 and humanitarian charter linked humanitarian action legally with laws and rights and not only with ethical principles. 139 00:16:01,990 --> 00:16:10,570 And that's important to you. And then they went further still and decided to quantify what these ethics and rights might look like. 140 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:17,200 So they wrote a book of standards called The Sphere Standards, which are now in their third edition or something where they said, Right, you know, 141 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:24,220 if you're going to respond to the right for water, it's going to be ten litres a day per person if you're going to do shelter, the right to shelter. 142 00:16:24,340 --> 00:16:26,710 It's going to be this. If you can do the right to food, it's going to be this. 143 00:16:27,190 --> 00:16:35,200 And again, the same quite ex Oxfam extreme mafia put together a core group of very concrete, 144 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:44,400 commodified standards of what it would mean to have your ethical needs met ethically by humanitarian agency and have your rights realised. 145 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:50,170 So we have that body of principle and law and standards, 146 00:16:50,170 --> 00:16:55,930 which has all been woven together in the last few years, very deliberately, but in its strict sense. 147 00:16:55,930 --> 00:17:00,970 What is the moral composition of the humanitarian ethic, if you like? 148 00:17:01,690 --> 00:17:07,390 And let me start by observing some family resemblances between the schools I've already mentioned of ethics. 149 00:17:07,900 --> 00:17:18,760 First of all, there is a family resemblance with virtue theory because of course, Piketty's seven Red Cross principles mirror exactly in some ways. 150 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:24,610 And so certainly in that structure there Christianity's seven virtues, which are, 151 00:17:24,610 --> 00:17:29,650 of course, faith, hope and charity bolted on to Aristotle's four key virtues. 152 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:38,080 So we're already seeing a virtue theory of ethics at play in the composition of humanitarian ethics. 153 00:17:38,650 --> 00:17:46,630 And also we're seeing some quite heavy dilemmas, a logical ethics at play in humanitarian professions of ethics. 154 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:54,370 We are seeing a phrase called the humanitarian imperative come shouting through Article one of the code of conduct. 155 00:17:56,650 --> 00:18:01,690 But imperatives abound not just in the code and not just in sphere, 156 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:09,490 what it would look like in warfare and tents and health and shelter, but also in linking humanitarian actions. 157 00:18:09,490 --> 00:18:17,950 They place this law and to ontological injunctions and prohibitions in child and human rights law and refugee law. 158 00:18:18,610 --> 00:18:22,689 So we see a family resemblance. That is pretty categorical. 159 00:18:22,690 --> 00:18:31,269 There is a categorical trait in humanitarian ethics, and I think we can see a family resemblance to Consequentialist as well. 160 00:18:31,270 --> 00:18:34,659 Because funnily enough, despite all the D ontology and virtue ethics, 161 00:18:34,660 --> 00:18:42,010 when you listen to a lot of humanitarians agonising, they are usually to be found and heard agonising. 162 00:18:42,010 --> 00:18:50,110 Consequentially, they're usually worrying and thinking hypothetically, not categorically, as camp would say. 163 00:18:50,110 --> 00:18:54,190 So they're thinking, What will happen if I do this? 164 00:18:54,340 --> 00:18:58,640 What will happen if I don't do this? What will happen if they do this? 165 00:18:58,660 --> 00:19:04,660 So there is some consequential family resemblances to in humanitarian ethics at the moment. 166 00:19:05,650 --> 00:19:14,320 And I think there's a bit of postmodern family resemblance to in that famous shrug of our MSF colleagues, 167 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,830 Médecins Sans Frontieres, that what is the point, if any? 168 00:19:17,830 --> 00:19:21,700 There is no metanarrative, there is no grand project. These people are just dying. 169 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,810 They are dying, as you might say. 170 00:19:26,290 --> 00:19:28,479 They have a differ end of this moment, 171 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:35,890 the disruption of history when they are silent and everyone discusses around them and they have no place in ethical discussion. 172 00:19:36,130 --> 00:19:42,580 So you get this sort of postmodern despair as well in in MSF thinking I think as well. 173 00:19:44,650 --> 00:19:51,310 So if that is the various schools of ethics and how they play in and out of humanitarian ethics, 174 00:19:51,670 --> 00:19:56,440 let me try and look in on more detail about what humanitarians believe of their project. 175 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,520 And the first thing I need to say about humanitarian ethics and. 176 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:11,650 Trying to go around the world and help people in war and disaster is that humanitarian ethics is a teleology of persons, not progress. 177 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:22,090 So really, in its most pure and honest and direct form, the project is the person, the person before you. 178 00:20:23,650 --> 00:20:28,600 That is the project of humanitarian action to help and preserve that person. 179 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:33,340 The person is the end in humanitarian ethics. 180 00:20:36,580 --> 00:20:42,700 And that, of course, means that doesn't have a great project of political progress. 181 00:20:42,700 --> 00:20:46,600 It's not really concerned, in truth about the good society. 182 00:20:47,500 --> 00:20:57,700 It is most deeply and solely concerned about the person before you and those that that teleology, if you like. 183 00:20:57,700 --> 00:21:04,120 In ethical terms, that telos comes out most clearly in the first two principles of humanitarian action, 184 00:21:04,120 --> 00:21:07,330 which, if you would, if we were to borrow Christian imagery, 185 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:16,690 the cardinal virtues of humanitarian action, which are humanity and impartiality and humanity since the goal of the project. 186 00:21:16,690 --> 00:21:21,460 The goal is the preservation, preservation of the human person. 187 00:21:23,620 --> 00:21:29,920 That means their physical survival, their breathing, fleshly bodily survival. 188 00:21:30,190 --> 00:21:34,630 But more than that, it is the preservation of the person in dignity, 189 00:21:34,870 --> 00:21:41,980 which is a phrase that Pictou particularly makes great emphasis on in his commentary preservation of the person in dignity. 190 00:21:42,460 --> 00:21:46,210 So it's really about all their needs. 191 00:21:46,420 --> 00:21:50,590 It's about their essential flourishing, not just survival. 192 00:21:51,460 --> 00:21:58,690 So that is the goal of humanitarian action, the passive and impartiality. 193 00:21:58,690 --> 00:22:05,150 The second principle sets out really the the belief that that is to apply to all people. 194 00:22:05,170 --> 00:22:17,860 It is a principle of total equality, and that is the principle that aid and humanitarian action should be given only on the basis of need alone. 195 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:23,439 And that is the second cardinal virtue cardinal principle of humanitarian. 196 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,309 Actually, aid is only given proportionate to need. 197 00:22:27,310 --> 00:22:34,780 It has nothing to do with your class, your race, your side of the conflict, your politics, your gender or anything. 198 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:39,880 It is about need and therefore it is a vision of total equality of personal. 199 00:22:40,870 --> 00:22:47,440 Before that suffering is it were. So these are the two cardinal virtues of humanitarian action. 200 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:57,880 But humanitarian ethics is also have practical ethics and it has two key operational principles that allows it to operate. 201 00:22:58,750 --> 00:23:04,360 How is it going to go into other people's war when people are fighting full of hatred and fire 202 00:23:04,370 --> 00:23:14,110 and peace and loathing and get a patch of ground to operate and get a permission to operate? 203 00:23:14,620 --> 00:23:21,940 Now, the next two principles enable that they are neutrality and independence, and these are not values. 204 00:23:22,690 --> 00:23:26,319 I mean, nobody is saying it's good to be neutral. We should all go around being neutral. 205 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,430 Nobody saying it's good. It's a moral good to be independent. We should all go and be independent. 206 00:23:30,540 --> 00:23:32,800 We can't can thrive and flourish. 207 00:23:33,910 --> 00:23:43,750 But they are saying these are really important operational postures to adopt if you want to work in other people's wars. 208 00:23:45,550 --> 00:23:55,240 And neutrality is really a means of gaining proximity by maintaining distance. 209 00:23:55,270 --> 00:23:59,710 It's the best way I've ever heard it described actually, by a veteran ICRC guy the other day in Geneva. 210 00:23:59,980 --> 00:24:08,410 Here, he'd worked a lot in the Vietnam War, and he said, Neutrality is the way we get close by keeping our distance. 211 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,850 And I think that is probably a pretty good confirmation of of that. 212 00:24:14,980 --> 00:24:18,670 You don't get involved, you don't take sides. You don't have a political view on the conflict. 213 00:24:18,670 --> 00:24:28,870 You don't care about winners and who wins. You are ultimately disinterested in the politics and therefore you can get this precious proximité, 214 00:24:28,870 --> 00:24:33,550 as they call it, in in ICRC and MSF humanitarian discourse. 215 00:24:35,410 --> 00:24:39,250 Independence is the second operational principle. 216 00:24:40,060 --> 00:24:45,640 And this is very important because it allows you to be impartial. If neutrality allows you to get close, 217 00:24:45,910 --> 00:24:51,489 independence allows you to be impartial because it means that you have freedom to make 218 00:24:51,490 --> 00:24:56,650 your own decisions about who you give your food and shelter and water and protection to. 219 00:24:58,210 --> 00:25:06,880 So the crucial aspect of. Independence is the freedom to make impartial decisions and impartial distributions. 220 00:25:07,300 --> 00:25:11,580 No one of all two or three of the parties can tell you who to give to. 221 00:25:12,820 --> 00:25:16,840 Now, those are the four really key ethical principles of humanitarian action. 222 00:25:18,490 --> 00:25:26,740 And then in the code of conduct that emerged in the late nineties, six more were added in a sense, as professional principles. 223 00:25:26,740 --> 00:25:31,450 And these are how you do that well as a professional humanitarian worker. 224 00:25:31,900 --> 00:25:38,260 So there are things like building local capacity participation involving everybody in their own relief. 225 00:25:38,270 --> 00:25:43,810 So you're not making uninformed, outsider based decisions or using insight or involvement and participation. 226 00:25:44,110 --> 00:25:51,040 You're always trying to reduce vulnerabilities and you don't use degrading media imagery of people. 227 00:25:51,340 --> 00:25:56,290 So those are the professional principles in a sense, that are largely drawn from development work, 228 00:25:56,500 --> 00:25:58,990 how you do things well in community development work. 229 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:09,790 So there's really other, if you like, the Big Ten principles that drive the ethics and that see humanitarians setting out their ethics at the moment. 230 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:19,510 And I just want to take a little detour to see if in these principles there is, in fact, an ethics creep of some kind. 231 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:27,550 Does the teleology of the person, which I am saying is the core end of any humanitarian action, is the path. 232 00:26:27,970 --> 00:26:38,140 There is no political project, just the path. Does it actually creep into wider ethics around the Good Society? 233 00:26:38,890 --> 00:26:45,610 And I think it possibly does. There is probably leakage and expansion and it's certainly been criticised many times for for 234 00:26:45,610 --> 00:26:52,990 spreading out and perhaps having the seeds or the Trojan horse of three other big ethical projects. 235 00:26:53,170 --> 00:27:06,310 And the first is peace. Is humanitarian ethics also a peace ethic that has a project to reduce violence in our species? 236 00:27:06,820 --> 00:27:11,440 Is it actually setting out really as well to make us more peaceful? 237 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,560 And I think this is an interesting point. 238 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:23,860 And there's, as you know, a whole new wave of current theses that conflict is reducing and you can share in incidents space that conflicts are done. 239 00:27:24,100 --> 00:27:28,179 But our conflict loss as a species may well be being overcome. 240 00:27:28,180 --> 00:27:32,560 And this is Steven Pinker on Human Security Report and all sorts of other people arguing this point. 241 00:27:33,610 --> 00:27:41,559 And they accredit a lot of this to humanitarian actually, and to the new great global humanitarian industry that I spoke about at the beginning. 242 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:50,050 That is, in a sense, putting a reductive pressure on violence around the world, trying, in effect, to stop it. 243 00:27:52,030 --> 00:27:59,379 Is that true? I don't think most humanitarians are out to reduce violence. 244 00:27:59,380 --> 00:28:05,860 They're out to limit it. But there's no doubt that in the process they are probably reducing violence. 245 00:28:05,860 --> 00:28:12,550 They are probably contributing to a culture of peace in certain parts of international politics. 246 00:28:14,350 --> 00:28:22,810 There's also no doubt that they've had a real effect in reducing violence, not just limiting it, but really reducing it. 247 00:28:23,050 --> 00:28:27,710 If you compare the Armenian experience and in what's probably, you know, 248 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:35,350 one of the most brutal state formations of modern times, the creation of modern Turkey, and you compare that with Darfur. 249 00:28:35,890 --> 00:28:38,950 So it's a very similar strategy that you terrorise people when you kick them 250 00:28:38,950 --> 00:28:43,740 out and you hope that the sun and the first and the starvation does the rest, 251 00:28:43,750 --> 00:28:46,840 which was a quote from the Turkish communiques at the time. 252 00:28:47,650 --> 00:28:52,990 Now, it did do the rest in Armenia because there was no one to pick up in Turkey, 253 00:28:52,990 --> 00:28:58,270 to pick up all the Armenians and put them in IDP camps and save their lives in Darfur. 254 00:28:58,390 --> 00:29:07,780 That didn't happen. IDP camps were set up and many lives which would have been lost in 1919 in Turkey in a sense, were saved in Darfur much later. 255 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:14,830 So there is no doubt that humanity has a reducing the incidence of of death and violence, I think. 256 00:29:15,430 --> 00:29:20,380 But I am not sure that the project itself is about peace. 257 00:29:20,860 --> 00:29:28,059 But some humanitarians may hope that it is. The second area that may see some ethics creep in the project is, of course, 258 00:29:28,060 --> 00:29:33,639 liberal development because not all humanitarian agencies are ICRC and that central frontier. 259 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:39,790 Now all development agencies are also doing humanitarian work there, what we call multi mandate agencies. 260 00:29:40,060 --> 00:29:48,220 So they actually espouse and seek the good society a much wider project of progress around liberal democracy in a sense. 261 00:29:49,750 --> 00:29:58,719 And there's no doubt that a lot of the work they do and the six professional principles of the Code of Conduct and Capacity Building, 262 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:06,990 inclusion and participation. In in humanitarian work is part of a development project. 263 00:30:07,830 --> 00:30:11,639 So the ethic may well wonder that way quite a lot. 264 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:19,200 And of course, the third area where humanitarian ethics may enter into a much wider global ethic is 265 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:27,390 the area of justice because of its determined link to law and humanitarian norms. 266 00:30:28,050 --> 00:30:34,590 Humanitarian laws mean that humanitarian action is also about justice around crimes against the person. 267 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:39,629 So the telos of the person inevitably involves some kind of notion of justice. 268 00:30:39,630 --> 00:30:46,380 When it's tied to law and law like a it becomes a humanitarian means. 269 00:30:47,700 --> 00:30:53,400 And so humanitarian ethics is not just concerned with the protection and assistance of the person, 270 00:30:53,670 --> 00:31:01,050 but also with a much wider global project of restorative justice and standard setting around behaviour. 271 00:31:02,430 --> 00:31:09,809 So this may not be ethics creep across the whole area, but I think there's no doubt that there is some ethical carry, if you like, 272 00:31:09,810 --> 00:31:17,580 or continuity between the strict humanitarian ethic and these other three things of peace, liberal development and particularly justice. 273 00:31:17,580 --> 00:31:23,700 I think just to move on and think about categories of ethical problems in humanitarian action, 274 00:31:27,090 --> 00:31:30,270 I think it's fair to say, and I'm just going to sort of list a few that I've heard, 275 00:31:30,270 --> 00:31:35,430 most of which I hope to really drill down on in the next year and really categorise 276 00:31:35,550 --> 00:31:39,690 a typology of key ethical problems that humanitarian agencies feel they face. 277 00:31:40,950 --> 00:31:48,690 But probably the biggest moral fear of humanitarian agencies is this idea of doing more harm than good. 278 00:31:49,170 --> 00:31:54,540 That's the big moral angst. That's probably what sort of keeps them up at night more than anything else. 279 00:31:55,110 --> 00:31:58,379 And of course, it's not a new fear. Whenever you're trying to help someone, you run that risk. 280 00:31:58,380 --> 00:32:02,000 As a famous clip from a fourth century desert father, call them. 281 00:32:02,580 --> 00:32:04,920 You know, I think he's called partnerships. 282 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:12,720 And he was one of these guys that sat on the end of a pole, set up a tree or lived in a cave and just looked wisely upon the world. 283 00:32:12,990 --> 00:32:18,600 And when people came to talking about, you know, helping other people, he sort of knew them through his long Monty Python esque beard. 284 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:26,220 He muttered Many a time, have I see him down by the River Man and get stuck in the mud, 285 00:32:26,940 --> 00:32:32,460 and several other men rushing to help him and in helping him, pushing him even further into the mud. 286 00:32:33,210 --> 00:32:41,790 And we know this is a problem that if you can rush to help people in that process of help, there is a potential for making things worse. 287 00:32:41,790 --> 00:32:45,210 And that is probably the big moral anxiety of humanitarian workers. 288 00:32:45,750 --> 00:32:52,440 But if I could list that, you know, some of their key problems that they present as I'm hearing them at the moment, 289 00:32:52,440 --> 00:33:00,480 the first would be an obvious one around triage, in a sense, decisions around widespread need and limited resources. 290 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,760 The natural problem of any person trying to meet needs with limited resources, 291 00:33:04,770 --> 00:33:11,940 a sort of triage problem of ethics that we would expect in the NHS as well or anywhere else. 292 00:33:12,900 --> 00:33:21,450 Then there are more technical ones to do with the nature of emergency work in distant places and covering large areas of ground, 293 00:33:21,780 --> 00:33:29,639 which is a sort of speed quality. Trade-off So humanitarians were worried about not meeting that standard, 294 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:39,299 this ethically okay to drop standards sometimes to prioritise speed in response of some kind, even if it's an imperfect response. 295 00:33:39,300 --> 00:33:44,070 So you get that kind of professional ethical worry as well. 296 00:33:45,330 --> 00:33:51,659 Then you get a lot of that multi mandate worry. I talked about where you have an agency which might be like Oxfam or Save the Children, 297 00:33:51,660 --> 00:33:57,810 which like the NHS is running an ambulance service and a big public health service. 298 00:33:58,260 --> 00:34:03,239 And how do they play off those two internal mandates? 299 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:09,690 You know, how do they resource them? How do they, when they're running their emergency vet, 300 00:34:09,690 --> 00:34:15,570 not talk about why do human rights and education and other things they care about normally that it might be being attacked or whatever. 301 00:34:17,130 --> 00:34:26,470 Then there is a in a sense the big clusters of ethical problems that you hear agencies talk about most in the media. 302 00:34:26,470 --> 00:34:38,370 I suppose the first one is that of co-option, this real anxiety that they are going to be co-opted by power in a war and that humanitarian 303 00:34:38,370 --> 00:34:45,170 aid is going to be instrumentalized towards other ends than their loss of the parcel, 304 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:53,189 if you like. And this is I mean, several examples would be Hutu extremists in the Goma camps in 1994, 305 00:34:53,190 --> 00:34:58,740 95, when humanitarians are feeding a campus a quarter of a million people. 306 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:05,810 Fled the RPF victory in Rwanda at the end of the genocide. 307 00:35:06,530 --> 00:35:11,629 And in that camp, the Hutu extremists are actually using those resources, 308 00:35:11,630 --> 00:35:21,710 using those social organisation to gain control, rearm, re-establish a force that could hopefully try and attack again. 309 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,650 So is humanitarian aid being co-opted, 310 00:35:24,740 --> 00:35:33,680 instrumentalized into a wider political project that the humanitarians don't never intend and have no interest in their right to be engaged in? 311 00:35:34,220 --> 00:35:39,290 And you see that, of course, too, in the parties debate in Afghanistan, the same kind of thing. 312 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:51,980 And the whole anxiety about being force multipliers for counterinsurgency by nature and WAM strategies in Afghanistan, in Iraq and elsewhere. 313 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,309 And you see it in northern Uganda, in Darfur, 314 00:35:55,310 --> 00:36:06,139 two in humanitarian agencies and national anchor feeling very co-opted into strategies of concentration of populations 315 00:36:06,140 --> 00:36:15,230 in warring areas that have very significant military and political strategy and advantage to them as well, 316 00:36:15,230 --> 00:36:21,110 in terms of creating controllable ghettos and draining the whatever it is, the fish from the sea or whatever. 317 00:36:21,770 --> 00:36:28,219 In counterinsurgency theory, coercion is the next big ethical area. 318 00:36:28,220 --> 00:36:38,080 They worry about that they will be coerced and forced to work in limited areas, which have nothing to do with being in proportion, 319 00:36:38,510 --> 00:36:44,090 in proportion to need, but only in proportion to the preference of one of the parties. 320 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:50,330 And this has been felt very strongly lately in Pakistan in mixed emergencies, where you have floods or whatever, 321 00:36:50,330 --> 00:36:57,889 in the areas of conflict where agencies have felt absolutely coerced into only going, 322 00:36:57,890 --> 00:37:01,490 where the government wants them to go or being prevented from going, 323 00:37:01,700 --> 00:37:07,400 where it may be that insurgents or movements against the government are suffering. 324 00:37:08,090 --> 00:37:15,890 So extraordinary problems of coercion that raise ethical issues about agency presence and agency options to deal with that. 325 00:37:17,090 --> 00:37:21,200 And then, of course, there's the by standing anxiety, there is the knocking on the door. 326 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,200 And actually it's there's the option, the powerlessness, 327 00:37:24,530 --> 00:37:34,969 the ethical problems that come from powerlessness and trying to decide with real conscience when that powerlessness is inevitable and there's nothing 328 00:37:34,970 --> 00:37:40,700 you can do or whether there is something you could do and you're not doing it and you're ending up being a bystander who should be doing something. 329 00:37:41,330 --> 00:37:51,830 So bystander problems then, of course, problems of Justice Depot's career at the International Criminal Court, doing things in Uganda and Darfur. 330 00:37:52,250 --> 00:37:56,299 Should humanitarian agencies be be cooperating them? 331 00:37:56,300 --> 00:38:00,020 Should they be glad that justice is being enforced? 332 00:38:00,020 --> 00:38:09,470 Or is justice creating human humanitarian backlash and real problems by its new assertiveness in such wars? 333 00:38:10,790 --> 00:38:19,910 And then there's the old, old problem, too, around advocacy and around balancing words and deeds in humanitarian action. 334 00:38:20,330 --> 00:38:26,149 And when is the time to speak out when you're seeing such terrible things and you know things and, 335 00:38:26,150 --> 00:38:28,850 you know, Ethiopians are being resettled from the highlands when, 336 00:38:28,850 --> 00:38:35,660 you know, people are being massacred and killed, when, you know, the government is diverting aid or whatever. 337 00:38:36,380 --> 00:38:43,430 When do you speak out? When do you keep quiet? When do you prioritise words over staying on the ground? 338 00:38:43,670 --> 00:38:49,790 When do you risk being thrown out? That's another very common dilemma that agencies would feel. 339 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:55,340 And that whole area, the next one of when your aid might be feeding a war. 340 00:38:55,350 --> 00:38:55,640 I mean, 341 00:38:56,210 --> 00:39:05,450 so much of the critique of humanitarian aid in the last the popular critique has been that sort of stupid laissez strapline of aid extends wars. 342 00:39:05,450 --> 00:39:13,939 Aid prolongs wars, as if that was a simple calculation and as if it was a calculation that was being made by aid agencies and sales, 343 00:39:13,940 --> 00:39:19,570 and they could just step back, not give any aid, and the war would stop. That's another one. 344 00:39:19,580 --> 00:39:24,860 How do you know where your aid is being diverted, used badly, 345 00:39:24,860 --> 00:39:29,900 and you have to stop it and when you can stand up to power in order to stop some of that. 346 00:39:30,620 --> 00:39:38,210 So what are your red lines, in other words? And when might you stay and go and what are your exit lines? 347 00:39:39,260 --> 00:39:45,740 And then finally, of course, the whole area of quality is an ethical issue to be a humanitarian agency. 348 00:39:46,020 --> 00:39:51,140 It doesn't just mean you get out there, you have an aeroplane, you have a white Toyota, you can get there and you stop being good. 349 00:39:51,350 --> 00:39:59,570 You have to be good enough at doing what you're doing. G.K. Chesterton famously wrote once that if something's worth. 350 00:39:59,740 --> 00:40:03,940 Think it's worth doing badly. And that's true up to a point. 351 00:40:03,940 --> 00:40:07,120 But there comes a point when it's not worth doing badly. 352 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:13,720 And when you do it badly, you should either get out of the way and let somebody else do it or not do it so badly. 353 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:21,880 And that whole point about quality is a big, big problem for aid agencies, and it's a big problem for the free market and aid agencies. 354 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:28,270 But anyone can start an NGO. We can all self mandate ourselves and go to Bosnia, go to Sri Lanka, go to whatever we want. 355 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:33,010 Quality becomes a really big ethical issue in humanitarian work. 356 00:40:34,300 --> 00:40:37,690 So just to just to conclude and then I hope we can talk about some of this, 357 00:40:39,940 --> 00:40:46,120 none of these types of ethical problems are unusual or especially problematic. 358 00:40:47,410 --> 00:40:47,649 I mean, 359 00:40:47,650 --> 00:40:56,740 I think aid agency people feel they have very special moral dilemmas because a lot of the situations they work in are very extreme and brutal and 360 00:40:58,390 --> 00:41:05,440 highly politicised and highly media tight sometimes and incredibly uncomfortable to suddenly arrive in and start trying to have an effective. 361 00:41:06,130 --> 00:41:14,680 But really, none of these ethical problems are unusual or unique, and they arise in many professions and many areas of moral life. 362 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:19,870 You could be having those dilemmas in the NHS, you could be having them in business, 363 00:41:19,870 --> 00:41:26,290 in a mining company or in banking or in many areas of professional life. 364 00:41:26,950 --> 00:41:31,870 You could certainly be having them as a military professional or as a lawyer, 365 00:41:32,410 --> 00:41:36,280 and you should be having them as a journalist as well, quite a lot of them as well. 366 00:41:36,790 --> 00:41:44,170 So I'm encouraged, I think, from my initial look that these are not exceptional, unique problems. 367 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:50,140 A lot of ethicists have worked on these kind of issues before. They can be spelt out and and worked through. 368 00:41:51,910 --> 00:41:59,470 And the encouraging thing, as I said at the beginning, the fact remains that more people than ever before are being protected and assisted in war. 369 00:41:59,770 --> 00:42:08,590 So this ethical project is having an ethical effect and agencies are making conscious moral choices all the time. 370 00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:18,670 They are being ethical or trying to act ethically and having ethical discussions and using ethical frameworks to try and work out what to do. 371 00:42:20,980 --> 00:42:27,610 But a lot of the choices they make are ones that leave them feeling very uncomfortable rather than very wrong. 372 00:42:28,150 --> 00:42:37,840 And I think very often this feeling of discomfort, which is not surprising in a lot of the situations they face, they misread into feeling wrong. 373 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:43,690 But actually I think they're feeling very uncomfortable, which is natural in a lot of these situations rather than being very wrong. 374 00:42:45,930 --> 00:42:54,940 And this is not surprising, I think, when you consider the enormous powers and forces that are really dominating their choices in in a war. 375 00:42:57,310 --> 00:43:03,910 So I think just moving forward and this is what I hope we'll be looking at in our research here over the next year, is there are three key areas, 376 00:43:03,910 --> 00:43:10,990 I think, for agencies to focus on when they do ethics and they try and deal with that catalogue of problems and how many more or less there are. 377 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,780 And the first is responsibility analysis. 378 00:43:13,990 --> 00:43:21,670 It's incredibly important, as we know in ethics, to look at who has responsibility for what in any given situation. 379 00:43:22,270 --> 00:43:28,239 And there's a tendency, I think, in Western aid agencies to colonise responsibility and say, oh, 380 00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:31,780 we're responsible for everything that happens in this war, we should have stopped this, we should help that. 381 00:43:31,780 --> 00:43:40,870 And it's simply not true or possible. And one of the major steps to take is to look at who's responsible for what violation. 382 00:43:42,610 --> 00:43:49,120 If there's a policy of rape or an epidemic of rape in the DRC, who who is truly responsible for that? 383 00:43:49,540 --> 00:43:54,070 And, you know, you always responding to that, but you're not primarily responsible for it. 384 00:43:54,280 --> 00:44:00,730 And it would be the same if governments decide to create ghettos in Darfur or Sri Lanka. 385 00:44:02,020 --> 00:44:10,989 You didn't create those ghettos. Therefore, you're not responsible for the same responsibility. 386 00:44:10,990 --> 00:44:21,550 Analysis is very important. The second area, of course, is really developing a proper approach to what ethicists would call due deliberation. 387 00:44:21,850 --> 00:44:26,169 But you really have to think through these problems properly and you have to show that 388 00:44:26,170 --> 00:44:30,909 you've thought through them and you have to think through them with the right people, 389 00:44:30,910 --> 00:44:33,460 asking the right people involving the right people. 390 00:44:34,030 --> 00:44:40,450 And therefore, in any situation, you have to be clear as an agency, if your intention is just a strict moral philosophy, 391 00:44:40,450 --> 00:44:44,049 if you like your intention in that situation, what are you trying to achieve? 392 00:44:44,050 --> 00:44:49,150 What is your telos, your end? What do you know about the situation? 393 00:44:49,150 --> 00:44:53,050 What you need to know more about to make a better decision? What don't you know? 394 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:57,190 What could you know? What could you never name? And then what is your capability? 395 00:44:57,190 --> 00:45:07,060 What are you really capable of doing? Because all of us can. Be judged as morally responsible or culpable on what we are able to do or not. 396 00:45:08,790 --> 00:45:19,980 So taking that very seriously and then also being very serious about mitigating the worst effects of decisions you make that you can't avoid. 397 00:45:21,810 --> 00:45:24,690 So deliberation, I think, is something that is being done in agencies, 398 00:45:24,690 --> 00:45:31,230 but I think it could be done a bit more consciously and with a bit more skills and ethical language. 399 00:45:33,300 --> 00:45:44,250 And the final thing, I think. Is going back to Aristotle probably is the cultivation of an organisational culture that really cultivates 400 00:45:44,700 --> 00:45:49,470 the humanitarian virtues and we probably need to understand a bit more about what humanitarian virtues are, 401 00:45:49,500 --> 00:45:53,730 because they won't just be humanity, impartiality, neutrality, independence. 402 00:45:54,180 --> 00:46:03,509 There'll be ways of listening to ways of working with people. And I think I'm interested to see if we can use virtue theory a bit more and think 403 00:46:03,510 --> 00:46:09,809 about humanitarian virtues and cultivate humanitarians in line with these virtues. 404 00:46:09,810 --> 00:46:12,360 So they are making balanced decisions. 405 00:46:13,650 --> 00:46:22,200 And whether or not the idea of organisational conscience can also play a part so that if you're working for, say, 406 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:30,080 the children somewhere and you're faced with a difficult decision, as you often are, you can honestly think, what does the organisation do here? 407 00:46:30,090 --> 00:46:31,499 What's my organisational conscience? 408 00:46:31,500 --> 00:46:40,980 Tell me, what do I know about how we work in these situations, the choices we are likely to make and whose organisational conscience in some way. 409 00:46:43,500 --> 00:46:54,300 And that of course in virtually three terms means cultivating and educating people in ethics, in the virtues, in moral judgement. 410 00:46:55,230 --> 00:47:01,920 And I think agencies need to take that seriously and look at cases that have before talked to people about history, 411 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,930 talk through decisions that need to be made, 412 00:47:04,020 --> 00:47:12,240 anticipate them and in a sense, get ethically fit before they have to ask people to go into very difficult situations. 413 00:47:12,630 --> 00:47:20,700 So just to conclude, finally, I'm getting back to this research we're trying to do like over the next year, our purpose in 2012. 414 00:47:20,700 --> 00:47:28,500 And we have promised to work with these agencies and deliver the first text on humanitarian ethics by the end of 2012. 415 00:47:29,250 --> 00:47:36,060 I think we want to help humanity nations become more routinely and more deeply ethically capable organisations. 416 00:47:37,110 --> 00:47:45,360 We want to help them be able to identify and deliberate ethical problems and to communicate and account for their choices. 417 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:51,660 I think one of the most important things is this if humanitarian aid goes on getting bigger and becomes a sort of global welfare project, 418 00:47:51,810 --> 00:48:01,410 which it could well do, it's very important that humanitarian leaders are accountable to people that give them money here out of their own pockets, 419 00:48:01,740 --> 00:48:08,700 to governments that give them money and to people they work with so they can explain their actions ethically. 420 00:48:10,050 --> 00:48:14,910 And that's what we'll be trying to do over the next year here at Enoch. 421 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:23,939 So this time next year I hope I have something concrete to report. But since I set out the ground on how I understand humanitarian ethics, 422 00:48:23,940 --> 00:48:28,050 how I think humanitarian agencies understand it, and where the key challenges are, 423 00:48:28,530 --> 00:48:36,540 and I hope if I talk again this time next year, nice book in my hands will have all the answers and how they can be ethical in the best sense. 424 00:48:36,660 --> 00:48:37,140 Thank you.