1 00:00:00,390 --> 00:00:07,890 Welcome to the Oxford University Psychiatry Podcast series brought to you by Charlotte Allen and Daniel Maun. 2 00:00:07,890 --> 00:00:16,770 We are advanced trainees in the Oxford Dictionary and today we're going to talk about bipolar disorder previously known as manic depression. 3 00:00:16,770 --> 00:00:22,710 So, Charlotte, maybe you could begin by telling us what the key features of bipolar disorder are. 4 00:00:22,710 --> 00:00:28,710 Bipolar disorder is a mood disorder characterised by unstable mood where patients 5 00:00:28,710 --> 00:00:34,380 have periods of high mood known as mania and low mood known as depression. 6 00:00:34,380 --> 00:00:40,350 What are the symptoms of mania? Mania is really elevated mood, 7 00:00:40,350 --> 00:00:51,780 which is too cheerful to be normal or might be seen as irritability or other symptoms of mania include increased energy, 8 00:00:51,780 --> 00:00:57,570 increased self-esteem, reduced concentration and changes in behaviour. 9 00:00:57,570 --> 00:01:05,470 So people might need a lot less sleep. They might have an increase in their sex drive and they might also have psychotic symptoms. 10 00:01:05,470 --> 00:01:13,980 Right. What about the symptoms of depression? Well, those are similar to depression in people who get unipolar depression. 11 00:01:13,980 --> 00:01:20,010 The core features are low mood and anhedonia, and it's accompanied again by changes in sleep. 12 00:01:20,010 --> 00:01:28,830 But it also appetite, appetite changes. You might get reduced appetite or increased appetite, weight changes and feelings of guilt, 13 00:01:28,830 --> 00:01:33,120 worthlessness and low self-esteem with a negative world view. 14 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:38,180 And people often get very preoccupied by death and dying. Right. 15 00:01:38,180 --> 00:01:42,780 So two very distinct clinical pictures there. 16 00:01:42,780 --> 00:01:50,010 So what is the criteria for diagnosing bipolar disorder in ICD 10? 17 00:01:50,010 --> 00:01:57,120 That there needs to be at least two episodes of mood problems, one of which must be elevated mood. 18 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:06,930 And there's got to be a complete recovery in between the episodes in DSM, you can actually diagnose bipolar disorder after a single manic episode. 19 00:02:06,930 --> 00:02:15,000 And DSM also has subclasses of bipolar disorder called bipolar one and bipolar two. 20 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,440 Bipolar one is anybody who's had a manic episode. 21 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:28,860 And Bipolar two is classified as at least one hypo manic episode, in addition to at least one depressive episode. 22 00:02:28,860 --> 00:02:35,070 Thank you. What's the difference between mania and hypomania, then? 23 00:02:35,070 --> 00:02:40,680 For a diagnosis of mania? The symptoms need to cause market disruption and functioning. 24 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:46,560 So that's at work or at home or in somebody's social life and in mania. 25 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,850 The symptoms need to be present for at least a week or a shorter period. 26 00:02:50,850 --> 00:02:58,800 If the symptoms lead to hospital admission, the hypomania, the symptoms need to be present for at least four days, 27 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:04,110 but they shouldn't be severe enough to actually interfere with function. 28 00:03:04,110 --> 00:03:13,680 Right. So there's the time period which is crucial, but also the disturbance of function, which is another marker of mania. 29 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:24,390 Yes, that's right. So people with bipolar disorder always experience these extremes of mood. 30 00:03:24,390 --> 00:03:36,540 Not always. It's possible to get a mixed affective state where the symptoms of mania and depression occur within the same episode. 31 00:03:36,540 --> 00:03:44,360 When making a diagnosis of bipolar disorder, are there any differential diagnosis you would need to consider? 32 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,520 Well, there are several other things that you could consider. 33 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:55,020 Cycler SAMEA is one, as well as schizoaffective disorder and borderline personality disorder. 34 00:03:55,020 --> 00:03:58,440 If someone presents with mania later on in life, 35 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:05,280 you should also consider an organic cause and exclude that before making a diagnosis of bipolar disorder. 36 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:12,210 OK, thanks. And just making another point about assessment, 37 00:04:12,210 --> 00:04:22,590 I think that it's really important to take an accurate history of somebody presenting with unipolar depression to exclude potential bipolar disorder. 38 00:04:22,590 --> 00:04:25,950 What do you think about that? I think that that's a good point, 39 00:04:25,950 --> 00:04:33,750 because people who are treated for unipolar depression actually may have had manic or hypo manic episodes in the past. 40 00:04:33,750 --> 00:04:42,210 And if you don't ask about that and don't recognise that, then the treatment is actually incorrect and people are unlikely to get fully better. 41 00:04:42,210 --> 00:04:47,250 Thank you. So how common is bipolar disorder? 42 00:04:47,250 --> 00:04:54,600 It has about one percent lifetime prevalence and it's equal in men and women. 43 00:04:54,600 --> 00:05:00,180 Most people develop the disorder in their late teens or early 20s. 44 00:05:00,180 --> 00:05:05,010 And as you just alluded to, I think it's important to recognise that it's probably underdiagnosed and it's 45 00:05:05,010 --> 00:05:11,130 probably more common and something we ought to be asking about a lot more. 46 00:05:11,130 --> 00:05:16,590 What causes bipolar disorder? There are a range of causes. 47 00:05:16,590 --> 00:05:20,040 Firstly, genetic factors are very important. 48 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:28,140 So the risks of first degree relatives is between 10 and 15 percent, which is much higher than the risk in the general population. 49 00:05:28,140 --> 00:05:36,630 Other things include drugs, so street drugs can trigger particularly manic episodes and also antidepressants. 50 00:05:36,630 --> 00:05:42,240 And people with a predisposition to bipolar disorder can also trigger manic episodes. 51 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:49,680 There are also environmental triggers. So work related stress, people who aren't sleeping very well, for example, 52 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:59,120 due to shift work or possibly stress related hormonal responses can all trigger episodes. 53 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:04,340 Right. So you've given us a clear understanding of what bipolar disorder is and what causes it. 54 00:06:04,340 --> 00:06:15,980 So if it's all right, we can move on to management. OK, starting with acute management, how should you manage mania? 55 00:06:15,980 --> 00:06:20,210 Well, first, you need to do a physical examination. It might not always be easy. 56 00:06:20,210 --> 00:06:28,190 If somebody has got florid manic symptoms, but it's important to exclude organic causes to start off with. 57 00:06:28,190 --> 00:06:36,140 If somebody is manic, particularly if they're aggressive or violent, then medication is likely to be important. 58 00:06:36,140 --> 00:06:42,770 And benzodiazepines and antipsychotics are the first line treatments for mania. 59 00:06:42,770 --> 00:06:53,150 Lithium is also licenced in acute mania, but it can take several days up to five or even longer amount of days to actually reach a therapeutic level. 60 00:06:53,150 --> 00:07:00,930 And because its action is slower, benzodiazepines and antipsychotics are often used in preference. 61 00:07:00,930 --> 00:07:10,410 And somebody with Manea is important to try and re-establish a normal pattern of sleep, and to do that, it might be necessary to use that drugs, 62 00:07:10,410 --> 00:07:21,500 things like superglue, and also to address any psychosocial stressors, anything that might be worrying the patient or contributing to the episode. 63 00:07:21,500 --> 00:07:27,500 Well, it's so actually when somebody presents with a cute Manea, 64 00:07:27,500 --> 00:07:36,260 you take the approach of polypharmacy using potentially both are not psychotic and some benzodiazepines potentially. 65 00:07:36,260 --> 00:07:45,440 But I'd always be cautious about polypharmacy and I'd start off with one medication first and add in the second only if it was really necessary. 66 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:54,380 Some clinicians talk about the importance of sleep in the acute phase and that sleep is restorative 67 00:07:54,380 --> 00:07:59,510 and that it can be quite difficult getting patients who are acutely manic off to sleep. 68 00:07:59,510 --> 00:08:05,510 So maybe that extra medication is required in the hospital settings, for instance. 69 00:08:05,510 --> 00:08:17,120 That might be a good example of when two drugs are needed. You talked about how different the clinical picture was of depression in contrast to mania. 70 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:23,150 And I'm just wondering how you would manage depression differently from what you've just outlined. 71 00:08:23,150 --> 00:08:25,820 A keep mania, OK, 72 00:08:25,820 --> 00:08:34,030 with depression really is the same principles of biopsychosocial psychosocial management that you would use for somebody with unipolar depression. 73 00:08:34,030 --> 00:08:42,680 I think the main difference is to be careful when initiating antidepressant treatments and using lower doses, 74 00:08:42,680 --> 00:08:49,640 perhaps to start off with and a careful titration to avoid the risk of a switch to mania. 75 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:59,340 And ideally, you'd want to use antidepressants in conjunction with a mood stabiliser to reduce the risk of a manic switch. 76 00:08:59,340 --> 00:09:08,160 Right. So bipolar depression is thought of as quite a different entity to unipolar depression. 77 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:13,290 Mm hmm. And you can't use the same treatments for the two conditions. 78 00:09:13,290 --> 00:09:16,980 That's an interesting point in bipolar disorder. 79 00:09:16,980 --> 00:09:21,510 What risks do you need to think about as part of your management? 80 00:09:21,510 --> 00:09:27,570 Well, there are potentially quite a lot of risks, and these obviously vary depending on the presentation, 81 00:09:27,570 --> 00:09:35,910 whether it's a manic presentation or presentation of depression in mania. 82 00:09:35,910 --> 00:09:42,400 You might consider the risk of self neglect, of overspending, of social embarrassment. 83 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:47,670 If somebody is very disinhibited and doing things that they wouldn't usually do sexually, 84 00:09:47,670 --> 00:09:53,610 disinhibition would come into that or aggression towards other people. 85 00:09:53,610 --> 00:09:59,040 It's also important to think about driving and people who who have got manic symptoms. 86 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:03,750 Obviously, this is not allowed by the DVLA and if somebody is driving, 87 00:10:03,750 --> 00:10:13,440 that can present a risk to themselves and also to other people in depression, the risk to others are often much less. 88 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:22,270 But the risk of self neglect and suicide might be very high, and those are key risks that need to be considered. 89 00:10:22,270 --> 00:10:29,680 Thank you. It seems it's very important to do a comprehensive risk assessment, both for key mania and depression. 90 00:10:29,680 --> 00:10:39,820 That's right, yes. So you've helpfully outlined the medications that are used in the acute setting for both mania and depression. 91 00:10:39,820 --> 00:10:45,010 Are there any medications that are useful in the medium to long term to prevent relapse? 92 00:10:45,010 --> 00:10:50,740 Yes, there are. These are the anti manics or mood stabilisers. 93 00:10:50,740 --> 00:10:57,850 And this includes lithium, sodium valproate and other drugs, things like energy. 94 00:10:57,850 --> 00:11:00,400 Could you say a bit more about the use of lithium? 95 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:09,700 Because as I understand it, that's the the sort of the the oldest mood stabiliser potentially the most frequently used, is that right? 96 00:11:09,700 --> 00:11:16,240 That's right. Yes. It's a very effective drug for long term prophylaxis of bipolar disorder. 97 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:22,480 And it's particularly useful at preventing the manic episodes, 98 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:29,320 if it's used in needs to be used with careful monitoring because of potential side effects. 99 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:36,100 In the short term, patients need to have regular lithium levels while stabilising the dose. 100 00:11:36,100 --> 00:11:47,170 And you also need to warn patients about the risk of poly urea weight gain and tremor, which can all happen fairly soon after starting the drug. 101 00:11:47,170 --> 00:11:54,670 There are long term side effects of the lithium as well, and those are things like renal disease and hypothyroidism. 102 00:11:54,670 --> 00:12:00,490 So it's important to warn patients about that and to continue monitoring in the long 103 00:12:00,490 --> 00:12:07,840 term to be aware of if these problems are starting and to be able to intervene early. 104 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,740 The other thing about lithium is that although it very effective, 105 00:12:11,740 --> 00:12:21,370 there is a risk of toxicity so it can interact with other medications and patients need to be warned about that. 106 00:12:21,370 --> 00:12:25,120 And if somebody gets dehydrated, for example, and they're on lithium, 107 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:33,640 then there is a risk of toxicity and patients need to know what to do to other things that are important. 108 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:39,440 One is that if somebody stops lithium, suddenly there is a risk of manic relapse. 109 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:45,580 So that's not advisable and it's something to warn people about. And in women, there's a risk of teratogenic city. 110 00:12:45,580 --> 00:12:55,300 So again, something to mention at the start of treatment. OK, there's quite a lot of information there about lithium you'd need to give to patients. 111 00:12:55,300 --> 00:13:04,030 And I understand that the the NHS have designed a pack that they give patients when they start lithium. 112 00:13:04,030 --> 00:13:10,840 Yes. Which is actually really good, because if you're giving all this information to somebody in clinic, it's a lot to take in. 113 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:15,910 And it's important that people do take that information in and take it on board. 114 00:13:15,910 --> 00:13:20,200 So, yeah, you're right, the lithium pack, which has got all that information, 115 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:27,400 is very useful and that people can refer back to it and know what to do if there's a problem or if they're concerned. 116 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:31,750 Thank you. Could you say a bit more about treatment with valproate then? 117 00:13:31,750 --> 00:13:39,280 Yes. So this is also an effective mood stabiliser. It has a different side effect profile to lithium. 118 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:45,640 Things like nausea and vomiting are very common, can also cause abnormal liver function tests. 119 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,480 So that's something to monitor like lithium. 120 00:13:49,480 --> 00:14:01,150 It can cause weight gain. And there are also some other rarer things like leukaemia and thrombocytopenia that can be found with Belpre weight. 121 00:14:01,150 --> 00:14:11,090 It is teratogenic as well. And actually the risk of terror in a city with valproate is even higher than it is with lithium. 122 00:14:11,090 --> 00:14:13,420 Right. So you've covered lithium and valproate, 123 00:14:13,420 --> 00:14:21,580 which are potentially the two most common mood stabilisers used in the long term prophylaxis of people with bipolar disorder. 124 00:14:21,580 --> 00:14:29,110 But what what options do we have for patients who have maybe tried these and they haven't been effective? 125 00:14:29,110 --> 00:14:36,220 Or for those who really don't want to take the risks or can't cope with the side effects, what other options are there out there? 126 00:14:36,220 --> 00:14:45,580 Well, there are lots of other options. First, if one, if either lithium mobile hasn't been effective on their own, they can actually be used together. 127 00:14:45,580 --> 00:14:49,150 And in some patients, that's a very good combination. 128 00:14:49,150 --> 00:14:56,830 But for people who don't want to take this class of drugs at all, then another option is to use antipsychotic medication. 129 00:14:56,830 --> 00:15:04,750 So olanzapine or risperidone can be used as long term prophylaxis against bipolar disorder. 130 00:15:04,750 --> 00:15:10,120 And thirdly, there are other mood stabilisers, such as carbamazepine or LaMotte's gene, 131 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:20,240 which can also be very useful and in the right patients, very effective. So there's quite a battery of different medications that we have available. 132 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:25,760 That's right. It's psychological therapy helpful in the management of bipolar disorder. 133 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:30,290 Yes, psychological therapy does have a place in the management of bipolar disorder. 134 00:15:30,290 --> 00:15:37,340 First of all, there's psycho education and this is about helping patients to learn about their disorder, 135 00:15:37,340 --> 00:15:44,570 learn about how it affects them, and to recognise the early warning signs that they might be developing mania or depression. 136 00:15:44,570 --> 00:15:56,060 And that's really important because then they can take medication early or intervene to actually stop an episode getting worse or becoming a problem. 137 00:15:56,060 --> 00:16:03,680 Psychological therapies also used to manage depressive symptoms, so CBT for depression can be really helpful. 138 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:11,660 But overall, it doesn't reduce the number of episodes. It helps with symptomatic relief. 139 00:16:11,660 --> 00:16:20,950 Other therapies could also be considered. So family therapy might be indicated if there's difficulty in the family that needs help. 140 00:16:20,950 --> 00:16:31,430 Thank you. What about social interventions? There are a number of things that patients can do which can be really helpful. 141 00:16:31,430 --> 00:16:37,850 The first is trying to encourage a regular routine and having regular sleeping habits. 142 00:16:37,850 --> 00:16:47,630 Limiting drug and alcohol consumption can also be really useful because that can make episodes more frequent and much worse. 143 00:16:47,630 --> 00:16:51,860 If somebody is able to have regular employment that helps to reduce the number of episodes 144 00:16:51,860 --> 00:16:56,300 and that can be very stabilising and some people might benefit from their support. 145 00:16:56,300 --> 00:17:06,170 So there are groups such as the Bipolar Fellowship, which can provide help and support in a really useful way. 146 00:17:06,170 --> 00:17:16,670 You've mentioned both in psychological interventions and social interventions, the importance of reducing the risk of further relapse. 147 00:17:16,670 --> 00:17:21,980 And it seems that a lot of the management is geared towards that. 148 00:17:21,980 --> 00:17:30,440 And what are the chances are of someone with bipolar disorder having another having a relapse? 149 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:34,640 The short answer is that the chances of relapse are actually quite high. 150 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:41,720 So it's a recurrent disorder and patients who have one episode are likely to have another episode. 151 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:46,850 But the frequency of episodes varies quite considerably between individuals. 152 00:17:46,850 --> 00:17:51,500 So some people might have many episodes in one year. 153 00:17:51,500 --> 00:17:57,260 Other people might have long gaps of up to 10 years between episodes. 154 00:17:57,260 --> 00:18:08,150 So it can be very variable. It's important to remember that in between episodes, mood and also cognitive function returns to normal. 155 00:18:08,150 --> 00:18:20,010 And even if people do have a pattern of recurrent episodes, they might still live very normal lives and have high profile jobs in between episodes. 156 00:18:20,010 --> 00:18:25,440 And in terms of thinking about prognosis for individuals, people who use alcohol, 157 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:30,270 those who have very prominent psychotic symptoms and people who find it difficult to be compliant 158 00:18:30,270 --> 00:18:38,610 with treatments and don't have regular employment are all more likely to have a poor prognosis. 159 00:18:38,610 --> 00:18:45,600 The other thing that's worth mentioning is that actually 10 percent of people with bipolar disorder die through suicide. 160 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:51,780 And so that's something to bear in mind, that there's a reason why the risk assessment is so important. 161 00:18:51,780 --> 00:18:56,610 That's a very significant percentage of people dying through society, isn't it? 162 00:18:56,610 --> 00:19:07,110 Yes, it really is. As I understand it as well, the nature of the disorder is that as the disorder progresses, 163 00:19:07,110 --> 00:19:18,360 as people get older, the relapses tend to become more frequent or or more severe. 164 00:19:18,360 --> 00:19:22,440 Is that is that correct? They can do, but not for everybody. 165 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:27,090 So some people might actually have fewer episodes, right, when they get older? 166 00:19:27,090 --> 00:19:30,660 I think it really depends on the individual. OK, thank you. 167 00:19:30,660 --> 00:19:38,730 So you've really given us a very good insight into both the assessment and management of bipolar disorder. 168 00:19:38,730 --> 00:19:46,650 Could you recommend any further resources for people who are more interested in this condition? 169 00:19:46,650 --> 00:19:54,720 There are many resources available. First, there's the Royal College of Psychiatrists website, which has got further information on it, 170 00:19:54,720 --> 00:20:02,160 or there's more detailed information in standard textbooks such as the shorter Oxford textbook of psychiatry. 171 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,860 And there's also the nice guidelines on bipolar disorder. 172 00:20:04,860 --> 00:20:14,000 And they give a very clear overview of the sort of treatment that patients should expect and that professionals should expect to deliver. 173 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:22,730 From another perspective, there's a very interesting book, which is a biography by Kay Redfield Jamison called An Unquiet Mind, 174 00:20:22,730 --> 00:20:26,840 and she is a clinical psychologist who's got bipolar disorder. 175 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:35,630 And I think her biography gives a really good insight into her experiences and of talking about what it's like to live with bipolar disorder. 176 00:20:35,630 --> 00:20:41,450 Thank you for listening to the Oxford University psychiatry podcast about bipolar disorder. 177 00:20:41,450 --> 00:20:47,300 We hope you found it useful and we hope that you listen again to another podcast. 178 00:20:47,300 --> 00:20:48,648 Thank you. 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