1 00:00:00,390 --> 00:00:08,790 Welcome to the Oxford University podcast series. Today, we're going to be talking about cognitive impairment, particularly delirium. 2 00:00:08,790 --> 00:00:11,880 This podcast is brought to you by Daniel Maun and Charlotte Talum, 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:19,020 where both speciality registrars at Oxford Deanery and we also are affiliated with Oxford University. 4 00:00:19,020 --> 00:00:25,230 So, Charlotte, let's talk about delirium. Why why is delirium an important subject? 5 00:00:25,230 --> 00:00:29,740 It's something which we talk about a lot in general hospitals as well as in the mental health hospitals. 6 00:00:29,740 --> 00:00:35,580 And I mean, is it a common thing? What's important about delirium? 7 00:00:35,580 --> 00:00:41,250 Delirium is very common and it's important because it's commonly missed. 8 00:00:41,250 --> 00:00:47,970 So people can have it have the condition, but it's not recognised. And that's causes a lot of adverse consequences. 9 00:00:47,970 --> 00:00:54,660 So it can increase mortality and it can increase the number of patients who end up going into care homes. 10 00:00:54,660 --> 00:01:02,840 It's very important that doctors recognise it, know how to investigate it and also know how to manage it. 11 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:11,790 It's commonly missed. I presume it might be because it's quite difficult to distinguish between from from other medical presentations. 12 00:01:11,790 --> 00:01:15,360 So what is delirium exactly? 13 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:25,680 Well, delirium results from an underlying organic illness, and it's a triad of acute confusion, disturbed consciousness and altered behaviour. 14 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:32,610 And the altered behaviour can be either hyperactivity where people are more active and might be quite disruptive, 15 00:01:32,610 --> 00:01:38,430 hypo activity where people actually stay in bed and do less than they would usually do. 16 00:01:38,430 --> 00:01:45,990 Or you can get a mixture of the two. And it's this group with hyperactivity or they're less active that are often a mess. 17 00:01:45,990 --> 00:01:51,960 And it can be very difficult to identify those patients unless you're really looking for it. 18 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:57,750 So you say it's the the people who tend to present with hyperactivity, they get missed. 19 00:01:57,750 --> 00:02:06,000 That's right. Are there other conditions that maybe doctors diagnose instead of it instead of diagnosing delirium? 20 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:12,150 Do you think there are other conditions that maybe take precedence in the clinicians mind? 21 00:02:12,150 --> 00:02:16,380 I think there are a range of differential diagnoses for an area, 22 00:02:16,380 --> 00:02:21,450 but it's more that it's just not recognised and gets most people focus on the 23 00:02:21,450 --> 00:02:25,380 acute physical health problems rather than on the acute cognitive problems. 24 00:02:25,380 --> 00:02:33,030 I see. So we've talk about what delirium is, what causes delirium. 25 00:02:33,030 --> 00:02:37,050 I use a mnemonic to remember what causes delirium. 26 00:02:37,050 --> 00:02:40,950 So the mnemonic is Delirio. So easy to remember. That's right. 27 00:02:40,950 --> 00:02:49,710 So first of all, drugs. So that includes polypharmacy includes withdrawal from drugs such as alcohol or street drugs. 28 00:02:49,710 --> 00:02:54,150 Second, A is eyes or ears. And by this I mean sensory deficits. 29 00:02:54,150 --> 00:03:01,140 So people who don't have a hearing aid and were turned on, people who haven't got their glasses on, for example. 30 00:03:01,140 --> 00:03:08,070 Al is low oxygen, and that can be a lot of causes of this, for example, myocardial infarction, 31 00:03:08,070 --> 00:03:19,250 stroke or pulmonary embolism, eye infection and chest or urinary sepsis are the most common causes here. 32 00:03:19,250 --> 00:03:27,200 As retention, this means your retention or constipation, they can precipitate these features. 33 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:32,540 The second day is Ekta States, then you undernutrition, 34 00:03:32,540 --> 00:03:40,850 so people who are not eating properly or maybe are not well hydrated and metabolic causes and there are a range of these, 35 00:03:40,850 --> 00:03:46,840 for example, diabetes, post-operative states or hyponatremia. 36 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:52,840 So you can see that there's a very broad range of causes for divorce, and actually if you're investigating somebody, 37 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,340 you need to think about all these different causes and what might be precipitating. 38 00:03:56,340 --> 00:04:03,820 It seems that you need to be quite active in your your investigations to rule out delirium. 39 00:04:03,820 --> 00:04:10,210 That's right. Although a lot of these things are just about good basic care and they are things that should be done anyway. 40 00:04:10,210 --> 00:04:15,780 Thank you. So is it is it a common condition? It is. 41 00:04:15,780 --> 00:04:23,200 It is actually very common. So in general, surgical wards, 10 to 15 percent of people would be expected to have delirium. 42 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:28,300 And overall, if you look at people who are in hospital and who are over 65, 43 00:04:28,300 --> 00:04:35,590 about a third of people will develop delirium, which is really very high indeed is higher and specific groups. 44 00:04:35,590 --> 00:04:45,730 So in intensive care settings, people who have had a stroke and people who had a hip fracture, as well as people with terminal illness. 45 00:04:45,730 --> 00:04:51,580 It seems then that that delirium might be predominating in the general hospital setting. 46 00:04:51,580 --> 00:04:54,160 Am I right in presuming that at all? That's right. 47 00:04:54,160 --> 00:05:01,600 It predominates in a general hospital setting, but you might also find it in care homes or in the community or in psychiatric settings. 48 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:06,760 Right. And what's it like for a patient to experience delirium? 49 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:13,210 What effect does it have on the patient? There can be many different ways it affects patients, 50 00:05:13,210 --> 00:05:21,130 but I think it can be very frightening to actually not understand what's going on and to lose a lot of your orientation. 51 00:05:21,130 --> 00:05:28,750 So I've certainly talked to patients who recovered from delirium and said that it was a really very unsettling experience indeed. 52 00:05:28,750 --> 00:05:31,310 Acutely delirium can lead to a lot of problems. 53 00:05:31,310 --> 00:05:37,060 So things like self injury, people are very disturbed and it might be pulling out catheters or cannulas. 54 00:05:37,060 --> 00:05:42,130 That can be a problem. And in the longer term, it does predict poor outcome. 55 00:05:42,130 --> 00:05:49,360 Some studies have shown that it doubles length of stay in hospitals, which obviously puts patients at risk of acquired infections, 56 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:56,590 and that's associated with 50 percent mortality at one year and increases the risk of institutionalisation on discharge. 57 00:05:56,590 --> 00:06:02,050 So these are very serious effects after people get delirium. I guess it's very difficult to say, 58 00:06:02,050 --> 00:06:07,030 but could it be that the more vulnerable patients tend to have an increased risk of delirium 59 00:06:07,030 --> 00:06:11,140 and that might be associated with these adverse outcomes as a chicken and egg situation? 60 00:06:11,140 --> 00:06:17,620 It's difficult, maybe. So I think there's an element of that that actually people who are maybe more frail, 61 00:06:17,620 --> 00:06:20,860 are more vulnerable to delirium, are more vulnerable to other things, 62 00:06:20,860 --> 00:06:26,660 although some studies show that it is actually delirium is an independent risk factor for these adverse outcomes as well. 63 00:06:26,660 --> 00:06:33,520 That's interesting. What would you do if you suspect delirium? 64 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:39,700 The most important thing is to recognise it, to be aware that it's a common condition and to look out for it. 65 00:06:39,700 --> 00:06:46,300 And then if you suspect it's you need to identify an organic cause by taking a thorough history, 66 00:06:46,300 --> 00:06:55,840 probably using enforcement history, doing a cognitive assessment, a physical examination and simple investigations. 67 00:06:55,840 --> 00:07:03,100 And what investigation should you do? Investigations are designed to investigate the causes of delirium. 68 00:07:03,100 --> 00:07:10,690 So first line, you need to do blood tests. This would be, say, a full blackout, looking at inflammatory markers, 69 00:07:10,690 --> 00:07:18,410 using these to investigate metabolic problems, see up calcium glucose would all be helpful. 70 00:07:18,410 --> 00:07:24,360 And if you're being thorough, you'd also want to look at thyroid function and he Tenex. 71 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:32,670 Because infection is a very common cause of delirium. It would be important to do your analysis, to look for signs of urinary sepsis, 72 00:07:32,670 --> 00:07:41,400 to think about blood cultures and think about is there anything else you can culture, say, a sputum culture or wounds or sores? 73 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:47,520 You can might be to do a culture on those. And considering whether chest X-rays indicated, 74 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:56,370 it seems like a lot of those investigators are actually baseline and well and they might be done when a patient is admitted to hospital, 75 00:07:56,370 --> 00:08:04,550 but it seems as though delirium might. Sort of present itself halfway through a hospital stay, 76 00:08:04,550 --> 00:08:11,870 and I think maybe you need to be active in your investigations to to continue to rule out this condition, particularly in the frail elderly. 77 00:08:11,870 --> 00:08:19,470 That is that right? That's right. So if you identify a change in function, then you need to repeat these baseline investigations. 78 00:08:19,470 --> 00:08:27,650 Yes, it might be that actually somebody has a delirium which is ongoing and he's done the basic investigations and still haven't found the cause. 79 00:08:27,650 --> 00:08:32,450 And in that situation, there are second-line investigations that you could consider, 80 00:08:32,450 --> 00:08:40,970 things like getting a brain scan, doing a lumbar puncture, doing tumour markers or even doing an EEG. 81 00:08:40,970 --> 00:08:53,300 Right. And the EEG is there can sometimes differentiate between maybe some intractable phenomena or can actually diagnose delirium in itself. 82 00:08:53,300 --> 00:08:59,080 That's right. That's right. Right. How do you manage delirium? 83 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:06,520 After you recognised it and investigated the causes, there are a lot of simple things you can do to manage delirium, 84 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:11,590 the most important thing is to ensure that patients are reorientated. 85 00:09:11,590 --> 00:09:19,760 So you might make sure that they've got the hearing aids in and that it's turned on and that they're wearing the glasses. 86 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:24,440 Other things you can do to make sure they can see a clock and a calendar so they know what time it is, 87 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:30,650 what date it is, and to display familiar personal items and photographs. 88 00:09:30,650 --> 00:09:34,310 It's very helpful to encourage visits from family and friends as well. 89 00:09:34,310 --> 00:09:40,280 And if they can see a window and they can see daylight, then that can also be very useful. 90 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:45,410 The national approach is very important, and the ideal is to have consistent staffing, 91 00:09:45,410 --> 00:09:53,090 nursing a patient and a quiet side room where you've got good lighting and there are minimal disruptions and transfers. 92 00:09:53,090 --> 00:09:56,690 So it seems as though a large part of the management delirium is actually just 93 00:09:56,690 --> 00:10:00,230 providing very good basic level of care and being aware of the fact that 94 00:10:00,230 --> 00:10:07,910 the patient might be slightly confused in their surroundings and might need some reassurance from friends or family or simply by looking at a clock. 95 00:10:07,910 --> 00:10:15,410 That's right. And what about the medical perspective? Is that is that just a supportive or is that sort of more active in its treatment? 96 00:10:15,410 --> 00:10:16,460 That's slightly different. 97 00:10:16,460 --> 00:10:24,290 So that might be about reviewing medication to see whether there's any medical triggers for the delirium prescribing analgesia, 98 00:10:24,290 --> 00:10:29,870 because if somebody is in pain, they might be more likely to get delirium and showing the patient as well hydrated 99 00:10:29,870 --> 00:10:35,690 and really taking a lead on investigations and treating any causes that you find. 100 00:10:35,690 --> 00:10:42,970 I think they're often iatrogenic cause of delirium, aren't they? That's right, cholinergic medications, yes, can sometimes cause delirium. 101 00:10:42,970 --> 00:10:48,220 And I like it's a thorough review of the patient's medication is necessary in these cases. 102 00:10:48,220 --> 00:10:54,320 That's right. So would you use medication to calm someone down in delirium? 103 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,490 Would you think about using sedation? 104 00:10:57,490 --> 00:11:06,220 It can be used, although sedative medication is rarely needed, but it's important to keep it in mind as an option. 105 00:11:06,220 --> 00:11:14,950 You don't use it as a last resort. If somebody was at a risk to themselves or was posing a risk to other people through their behaviour, 106 00:11:14,950 --> 00:11:24,910 and it's important to always use the lowest possible dose and preferably using oral medication rather than I am or IV medication. 107 00:11:24,910 --> 00:11:32,470 The reason for all this caution is that actually the medications that you use to calm people down have problems of themselves. 108 00:11:32,470 --> 00:11:40,540 So Lorazepam can be used. But some studies have shown that that actually can precipitate delirium and haloperidol can also be used. 109 00:11:40,540 --> 00:11:49,520 But that can be quite risky in people with dementia, especially Lewy body dementia, because it causes extra pyramidal side effects. 110 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,460 So although both those things have got side effects, 111 00:11:52,460 --> 00:11:58,780 they might still be needed if somebody is very disturbed in their behaviour and just for general information, 112 00:11:58,780 --> 00:12:06,230 and arousal is a benzodiazepine, which is one of the common sedatives used by both general physicians and psychiatrists. 113 00:12:06,230 --> 00:12:10,940 That's right. And Haloperidol is a typical antipsychotic. Yes. 114 00:12:10,940 --> 00:12:17,290 With sedative effects. Yes. It's a quite different medications, but both used in the same setting. 115 00:12:17,290 --> 00:12:23,820 Yeah. What happens if someone with delirium refuses treatment? 116 00:12:23,820 --> 00:12:29,160 And this scenario is important to think about whether they've got capacity and by this I mean, 117 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:35,480 do they have an impairment of the brain or mind that affects their decision making ability? 118 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:41,630 The core elements of the capacity assessment involve assessing whether somebody understands the decision to be made. 119 00:12:41,630 --> 00:12:46,880 So in the case of delirium, do they understand why they might need sedative medication? 120 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:53,840 Can they weigh up the pros and cons? So the side effects versus the benefits of taking it, can they retain that information? 121 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:58,810 And then can they reach a decision about whether or not they want to take it? 122 00:12:58,810 --> 00:13:06,950 I have a right of it sort of captures those these four elements of capacity, 123 00:13:06,950 --> 00:13:12,680 let's understand, retain way, convey sort of like a drawing that helps you remember. 124 00:13:12,680 --> 00:13:18,530 It's a nice, easy way to remember it and that does capture the core elements of the capacity assessment. 125 00:13:18,530 --> 00:13:25,010 Often naturally, the reason they like crusties is because of the third one, the weighing up the decision. 126 00:13:25,010 --> 00:13:32,350 They can maybe understand it a little bit, but essentially retain it from weighing can be the the difficult one to do. 127 00:13:32,350 --> 00:13:39,770 And they say, yeah, so what happens if they actually do the capacity that if somebody lacks capacity, 128 00:13:39,770 --> 00:13:46,940 then you can consider treatment, which is in their best interests, and they should always be the least restrictive option. 129 00:13:46,940 --> 00:13:51,890 So, for example, if you can avoid using medication, then you should do this. 130 00:13:51,890 --> 00:13:59,060 But it does mean that if somebody is really presenting a danger to themselves or to other people and if they lack capacity, 131 00:13:59,060 --> 00:14:08,000 then you can treat them in their best interests. Ideally should involve the multidisciplinary team and family members in making that decision. 132 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:15,260 But it may be that if there's an urgent situation that you actually have to to make a quite quick decision now, 133 00:14:15,260 --> 00:14:23,750 it'll be under the Mental Capacity Act. That's right. Yes. That would be to bring the episode to an end as quickly as possible. 134 00:14:23,750 --> 00:14:28,530 But nothing more than that. Yes. And that would be a space for use in the Mental Health Act. 135 00:14:28,530 --> 00:14:33,860 We're not here now. OK, and I guess that's because actually what we're seeing here is the delirium is 136 00:14:33,860 --> 00:14:38,270 caused by primary or going cause rather than it being a mental health condition. 137 00:14:38,270 --> 00:14:44,210 Yes. Thank you. Well, thank you for that. So that's been a really helpful introduction to the area. 138 00:14:44,210 --> 00:14:48,650 What resources would you recommend for further information if people are interested? 139 00:14:48,650 --> 00:14:55,510 The two I'd recommend are the nice guidelines on delirium and also the British Geriatrics Society guidelines on Valaria. 140 00:14:55,510 --> 00:15:02,690 And both of those have got further information about recognising it's investigating it and how you manage it. 141 00:15:02,690 --> 00:15:08,000 Thank you. Well, thank you for listening to the Oxford Psychiatry Podcast series. 142 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,690 This week has been on delirium. Please listen to some more. 143 00:15:11,690 --> 00:15:13,392 Thank you. Bye bye.