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Hello and welcome to the Queen's Access podcast. It's so lovely to have you here.

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And I hope you find this a useful resource in learning more about life at Oxford.

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But more specifically about life at the Queen's College. My guests this week are all medicks.

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They are Bethanne Story and Annie Roberts, who've both just finished their first year, and Banka Lucy, who's just finished his third year.

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They'll talk us through what it's like to apply to study medicine at Oxford and then what it's like to actually study here.

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My apologies for any poor audio. These interviews have all been conducted over Zoome, and the Internet connexion isn't always completely reliable.

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For a transcript of this episode, please visit the Queen's website. I hope you enjoy.

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Hi, everyone. Thank you so much for joining me.

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I really, really appreciate your help and I'm sure you'll be super interesting and really helpful to listen to.

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First of all, would you mind taking me through a little bit about your queens, Danny?

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So how you ended up at college? Bethany, you want to start us off?

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Yes. I first came to Queens in year 12, actually on the northwest side.

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It's residential. And and I really, really enjoyed that.

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The rates of student helpers who were refinding, including their natsheh and and and I kind of had NOCH tutorials.

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And then so let me be kind of quite definite.

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I was going to apply to Oxford and I ran lots of other colleges and then we'll read the paper.

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I couldn't take certain smoke screens because I knew a bit more about it.

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And here I am. Yes. Fantastic.

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Ben, what about you? So I had actually never visited Queens before I applied.

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So I knew I wanted to apply for medicine somewhere.

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And I sort of after coming to Oxford and listening to the talk in the medical school from some of the tutors and stuff like that,

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I knew I wanted to come to Oxford because it's sort of like the science basis of the course really interested me and stuff like that.

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I didn't really know much about colleges.

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So I just kind of wandered around the city for the whole day and visited like three or four really inefficiently.

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But then I went on when it came to sort of doing UCLASS and stuff like that.

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I looked on the Internet, all the different colleges. Queens had a really cool logo and like the name is pretty cool.

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So I was just like, yeah, I'll apply that.

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But yeah, I think I always say to people on open days, choosing colleges is a very sort of arbitrary choice,

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because wherever people end up, they always tell you that college is the best college.

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I mean, there are obviously wrong. Queens is the best college, but it just goes to show how everyone can fit in, like wherever you end up.

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Yes. So kings. Queens. Yeah. I've always said that the people, when I say nothing about college choices is like wherever you go.

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Trust me, by the time it's matriculated, yours is the best college in Oxford.

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Cambridge. Every college at university in the world. You are absolutely on top of it.

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Absolutely. That's about it. Yeah. Artie, what about you?

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I knew I wanted to apply for Oxford. I didn't actually apply to Queens.

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I applied to Corpus Christi. Was pulled after the interview stage.

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So I guess an example of how you don't always end up where you apply.

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I love Queens so much. I'm so glad that I was accepted. Oh, fantastic.

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So if you could take me through a little bit about what a week in your life looks like at Oxford.

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So obviously, you do all do the same course, which is a first on this on this podcast.

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But feel free to kind of go into what an academic week is like for you and especially for a band, given that you're in a different year.

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And also take me through, you know, fishable and societys and like how you like to relax and all that kind of thing, just feel free to let me know.

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So back then, can you start? Yeah. So in first year, you tend to have only about two or three lectures in the morning and it's every little bit.

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And says de morning was always. And we had Deeyah which is doing that.

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I think it's demonstrating rain but it's where you do live anatomy and then prosection.

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So then you'd have one person followed by that.

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And most mornings of lectures, benign finish around lunchtime and head back to college for lunch and and then the afternoon, unless you do a tutorial,

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which we'd normally have two a week, it was your time to kind of and do your research for your essays or revise if you were that way inclined.

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And then you could sit around any extracurriculars at dinner and any sexual activities that you're doing.

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So probably about twelve lectures a week and then an.

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One or two practicals, it did very sad. Sometimes we had a week,

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whether we'd like three and 13 elections and the that is pretty much contactors in the morning and then freetime in the afternoon.

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Brilliant. Yeah. And how about you? What what did you, like, take up any hobbies while you were at Oxford?

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Yes, I started rowing, which I'm not typically good at.

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That is good fun. I've. I did quite a lot of climbing before coming to Oxford, so I kind of carried on.

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And then I used gay and sometimes in the afternoon and Tobruk's to go climbing there.

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I think generally just kind of socialising with friends. And there are quite a few kind of magic and crawls that we organise.

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Well, we didn't organise actually. Someone else organised and then we went along with it.

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But it was quite nice kind of mixture of socialising within college and with.

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The medicks. Fantastic.

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That sounds that you got a really good balance. How about you on a. Yes.

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Why submit to a bathroom sex or in the same year? Well, we have lectures the morning come back for lunch and do they work in the afternoons?

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In the evenings? I tend to do things with friends or go to all the society events that are in the evenings, like rock climbing, as Beth mentioned.

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Then I also get tutoring with the charity Dakari where you like a mash with a people who is like a recent arrival to the area.

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They may be refugees, they help them. I get that on the weekends as well.

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Fantastic. And Ben, what about you. So my sort of offers I'm listening to what those guys are saying.

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I remember the first two years of the course as of say I did exactly the same as those guys.

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So I've just finished my third year, which for medicine is a bit different.

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It's called the final on a school year or face chest.

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And it's really sort of cool addition to the course because it's like the interconnected year, as they call it, as are other units.

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But every Medick does it here. So you have a lot more freedom to do sort of academic things that interest you.

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So over the last year, I maybe had three or four lectures per week,

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which was quite nice because you've got lots of time in between these lectures

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to read around them and sort of get really deep into the subject matter.

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You book your own tutorials, which is a really nice addition to the course.

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So if there's a tutor, a different college,

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that you really want to sort of have an hour's one on one or two on one about a certain topic with there's really good opportunities can bolt in that.

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And yeah, just generally a quiet shell. Yeah. But because it's you can direct yourself just the things you're really, really interested in.

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A really, really interesting year. I've also spent a lot of time working in the sort of lab environment.

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which was really cool, really, really good experience. I am one of the clumsiest people you'll ever meet.

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So I wasn't necessarily particularly good at it,

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but it was a really amazing sort of opportunity to be able to see how cancer research gets done and to even do some of it myself and producer,

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a unique sort of piece of original research. So, yeah, just a lot more freedom in the third year as compared to the first two years of the course.

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Plus also Internet thing and like it's such a good opportunity to really, really get an in-depth into what you specifically are interested in.

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That's a really unique thing. I've not heard of anything like that before. So, so cool.

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Yeah. So we talked a little bit about the course itself, but we should probably address, like, actually get again.

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So, Ali, do you mind taking us through a little bit about how the interview process works?

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Medic's. Yes, two comments in your interview to colleges and generally the college you apply to, you'll be stay.

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You'll have an interview down the first day and I'll put you up and give you dinner and put on something in the evening, like a quiz.

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And then on the second day, you have an interview at your other college. That one didn't apply to you, given it randomly.

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I'd say most colleges will have one more clinical interview.

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So I was asked like a question about patient, which was ethical.

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Then also something about NHS structures. And then your other interview is going to be more based around science.

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So lots of diagrams with graphs and extrapolating your A level biology and chemistry knowledge to try apply it and you scenarios,

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which can be a bit daunting. And you'll hear the question. You've got no idea how it relates to anything else, you know, but you just have to.

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I think the most important thing is to explain your logic and what you think might be happening.

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And they get a sense of your thought process, although I would say that not all the colleges do sort of a split into you and

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way may mix up the clinical best scientific content throughout both interviews.

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So I would be aware of that. OK.

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Fantastic. Thank you so much. So if each of you could use a little bit about what your experience is,

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Cecilia Bema was like maybe what advice she'd give to somebody who was preparing to take that exam.

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Ben, can you start us off, please? So easy, easy advice to give.

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Just practise, practise, practise, practise under time, pressure.

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So there's a lot of free resources on the Internet.

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So free practise, quizzes, stuff like that.

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I would definitely get involved with that because the the absolutely the hardest aspect of the BMA is the time pressure as I remember it.

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I think especially the science section, if you didn't do GCSE maths, if you didn't do GCSE physics,

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definitely brush up on how to solve the different types of physics problems under time pressure.

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And also, don't forget about the essay.

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So the essay section is probably sort of often forgotten about by candidates preparing, but it is just as important as the other two sections.

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So I would advise sort of maybe reading around the news about having a look at what the hot

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debates and topics are and sort of news and medicine and science at the time of taking your exam.

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you know, writing a page of A4 on this topic is quite time consuming.

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But I would definitely sort of maybe once or twice before you take the actual exam,

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just make sure you get a feel for a sort of the type of content that you want to include and sort of the style of your writing,

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and B, just how much writing you can fit onto one side of A4, because that's definitely something you can catch you out.

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Really? Thank you, Ben. That's really good advice, I feel. I mean, what about you?

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Yeah. So those banks that I'd say it's very important to practise.

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Good, because getting used to the exam format and the kind of questions they may ask is a big part of it.

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So I think maybe start practising early.

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Another thing I'd save the essay is you could see if any of your teachers would be happy to have a look at it,

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because my biology teacher looked at one or two that essay of the practise essays I'd done to get some feedback on that.

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That was really helpful. And also in my child, it is it's it's a really hard exam.

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So when you start, don't be disappointed. Eickhoff Moggs or worse.

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I didn't say badly at the beginning. Just remember that everyone else was finding it super difficult.

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Oh, great. Thank you. I'm back. What about you?

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I think the same thing about just practising as many questions as you can get your hands on this most important thing.

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And if you are struggling to find enough questions,

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the kind of critical thinking section of the bema is almost exactly the same as thinking skills assessment questions.

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So you can kind of borrow some questions. You can you can practise some of those questions as well, because that opens up a whole other kind of bang.

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And the other thing is for the science section is a specification available so you can go is kind of in a textbook format.

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So you can go right through that.

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There's kind of a few odd things that it says, a GCSE knowledge like the kidney, which I haven't done at GCSE and we haven't done yet.

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I let's say by going through years that you can pick up those areas and then make sure you know enough about them for it.

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Yeah, great. As somebody who sat the TSA, I can tell you that there are a stupid number of factness papers available for that.

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That was what a lot of my early. Yes, I think it was by doing so.

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Yeah. There's there's definitely a lot of TSA resources that you do run out of FEMA resources.

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Okay. So that once you've actually made it dog food, what would you say the course is like and how is it structured?

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So the reason you might choose to apply to Oxford rather than another medical school

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is because of the sort of relatively unique way that the course is structured.

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So while other universities are sort of moving towards this more problem based learning type of teaching for medical students,

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so you go onto the clinics,

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you see a patient, you have like a group discussion about all of the different aspects of the sort of the different diseases that you're encountering.

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Oxford is a very traditional style of teaching.

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So the first three years are dedicated in the main to medical sciences and the science that underpins disease.

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Before you go on two years, four, five and six, which are actually based in the hospital and focussed more on clinical skills and how

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they knowledge you gained in the first four years applies to being in the clinic.

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the tutors are very understanding of the fact that you are moving into university life for the first time.

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Most people are moving into living independently for the first time.

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So they know and they have so much experience in sort of breaking people into that into that new phase of their life.

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So the all of the teaching is planned out really well to cover all the topics that you need to cover in a pretty manageable way.

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Obviously, there is a bit of hard work involved, but also there's lots of fun to be had.

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Well, I've only done three years, but all three years have been really good fun so far.

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And the Cheetahs have a really good understanding that you also need to live your life outside of work,

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which I think is a bit of a misconception about studying study at Oxford that you might spend your whole time working.

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Couldn't be further from the truth. Right. Thank you, Ben.

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And then how would you describe the work style upset? So what are your tutorials like?

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So it kind of fits in with the strictures.

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And let's not start being preclinical first and then clinical in the first couple of years, and the work is almost entirely through essays.

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And you normally get one essay per tutorial, say your Cheatwood a couple of weeks before the tutorials send you a title,

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which is normally kind of asking you to describe or explain.

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And it's kind of medical concept which normally ties in with what you're doing in lectures at time and say you kind of write your essay on that,

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which is the core of it is kind of pure science.

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But in order to get to the top marks,

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you have to be putting in kind of clinical examples of why it's relevant and and kind of some trials and clinical and other kind of studies,

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that kind of thing. And then you turn up to your tutorial, having handed your essay in.

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And they I found that generally started by asking your students, see,

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you tend to go in pairs much together to explain what the concept is that you've written your essay about.

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And then if there are any areas where I may be slightly misunderstood something or you hadn't gone into quite enough

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detail that you to kind of directly toward staes and expand on them and talk about them in a bit more depth,

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which means that the kind of even they each say if you've got six medicks and you have energy tourism pass,

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although they're all on the same day topic, they do go down different routes.

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And so they're all kind of unique to you.

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And then and they may all say the cheetah's sentence brings, say, a journal article for you,

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or they might ask each person diagrams to help just with discussion.

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But I've always found them quite relaxed. And they're definitely one of the bits of the course that I really,

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really enjoy just being able to have quite an informal chats about whatever it is you've been reading about.

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The just I. I always find the things I've written essays on.

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I understand so much better than anything I've just had a lecture on and say, yeah, I highly recommend.

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Fantastic. Thank you so much. And thank you, guys. I feel like I gave a really good description of kind of the ins and outs of the course.

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I know that Batman and Ben are also ambassadors on the ambassador platform, which can be found under the Meet Our Students top of the Queen's website.

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So I'm sure even after this fantastic, reliable information, if you still have any questions,

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I'm sure they'd be happy for you to contact them with any questions through that platform.

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OK, brilliant. So our closing question, I'd just like to ask you each.

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What is your favourite thing about college and why on earth would you will not?

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So I think my favourite thing would be college lunches, because you will come back.

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It's about one o'clock. We've had like three lectures. My brain is utterly exhausted.

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It's so nice just to be able to sit down and see all your friends from all different

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subjects because everyone goes for lunch together to chat about your day and how it's going.

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And also, the food's very yummy. I love potatoes. I want all five types of potato ortho's.

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That's just the best experience. And it's not too expensive either.

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So if it's a winner, brilliant carb loading at lunch.

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I loved that back then. How about you? Well, I was going to say college lunch as well, but I think joint second JCR t.

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And once you've kind of digested your college,

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then gets to about Soapy and you're in the library and that's when GST is and you can go into the JCR, have better snacks for sale.

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Also very cheap and perfect excuse to gout's library.

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Have a chat with friends and eat some more. There's a bit to scene that.

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But yeah, I'd say GST includes food in general.

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Oh, fantastic. I'm fine. What about you? So my top two favourite things have now been taken.

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So I'm going to go with number three being the best seller.

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We have an absolutely cracking college apart. And I visited a few college bars and I can say categorically ours is the best.

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It's a great place to hang out, whether you're a sort of drink alcohol or not.

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It's a great place to hang out with your friends.

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Got some pool darts, quiz machine jukebox, which is usually a point of contention, sort of just playing.

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Sweet, sweet Caroline on repeat, etc. And we also have our box stand there.

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So what's a like fancy dress parties, everyone.

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There's usually a theme, which is a really bad pun and everyone makes really bad DIY fancy dress and all the music is really bad student deejaying.

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So yeah, it's just really cheesy, really good fun for everyone.

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It's a great time for everyone in college to sort of come together. Oh yeah.

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Fantastic. Thank you all so much. That was super interesting. And I'm sure everybody who listened found that really, really helpful.

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You've all been great. I really appreciate your support. And I'll speak to you.

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Will see. Thank you so much to ban Bethen and Annie for that great conversation.

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And a massive thank you to all of you who listened. There are loads more access resources on the Queen's College website.

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A w w w dot queens dot org. Dot ac dot UK. Forward slash access dash outreach.

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And you can find out more about the college in general through its website, Twitter and Instagram, including on the Access Twitter at Queens Outreach.