1 00:00:00,390 --> 00:00:04,760 Thank you, Judy. Such a pleasure to be with you. 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:10,890 Let's show the artist. Hopefully very soon we'll be able to meet each other. 3 00:00:10,890 --> 00:00:17,010 Am my audible to everyone. Can can I be seen? 4 00:00:17,010 --> 00:00:26,880 Yes, both. OK, so let me just share my slides and then start with the papers. 5 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:46,870 I'll be having a presentation as well as the slides. I hope I'd be able to negotiate to get an engaging. 6 00:00:46,870 --> 00:00:59,380 Know. Can you see the presentation? 7 00:00:59,380 --> 00:01:05,870 Yes. Key up steps. 8 00:01:05,870 --> 00:01:14,770 Shadows just move back and forwards a bit. Yes. Give me a try. 9 00:01:14,770 --> 00:01:22,530 You're going to see the second snow. Yes. Yes. 10 00:01:22,530 --> 00:01:29,290 And now the first. Do I can't see myself here? 11 00:01:29,290 --> 00:01:39,040 That's OK. On the twenty ninth of January 1922. 12 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:51,330 Exactly 99 years ago, the Mhatre petition of central provinces and Bedi had a two day session not discussed and I quote, 13 00:01:51,330 --> 00:01:58,730 the usual issues pertaining sortition, political and educational progress of The Untouchables article. 14 00:01:58,730 --> 00:02:01,970 They used the unusual kind of night of the session, 15 00:02:01,970 --> 00:02:11,180 which especially found mention in the public advertisement on the front page of Division Muraoka, which was a weekly newspaper. 16 00:02:11,180 --> 00:02:17,180 Was that the son of Adam, most revered by childhood bins of makes, is scheduled to visit. 17 00:02:17,180 --> 00:02:20,330 Not put on the 30th of January. 18 00:02:20,330 --> 00:02:30,830 Hence, the representatives of the Margaret exhorted not to miss the opportunity to have a Dushan sighting of DePrince uncle. 19 00:02:30,830 --> 00:02:37,130 Such public displays of affection for the royals by the colonial Indian subjects do 20 00:02:37,130 --> 00:02:43,520 not find any place in the popular imagination of the history of modern India today. 21 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,380 This in spite of the fact that on average, 22 00:02:46,380 --> 00:02:58,310 Muraki student in Maharashtra state board school loans that he still doing freedom struggle at least twice before matriculation this high Muzio. 23 00:02:58,310 --> 00:03:07,780 The addition of memories that do not conform to the anticolonial narrative is understandable for a post-colonial society. 24 00:03:07,780 --> 00:03:14,660 I want to do, however, that such a monochromatic representation of the struggle for the creation of the Indian 25 00:03:14,660 --> 00:03:21,530 nation as if it were an epic battle between the good nationalists and the bad colonialists, 26 00:03:21,530 --> 00:03:30,020 engender a constricted understanding of danger and more doesn't engender the processes involved in the making of the Indian nation. 27 00:03:30,020 --> 00:03:39,170 In particular, the present day Bougere is an attempt to divide the radius references to the British royals in Marathi, 28 00:03:39,170 --> 00:03:50,960 writings of the modern readers, broadly ranging between 1848, chapter poetry and 1922, rigidly our time in the light of dissent. 29 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:55,400 This is, of course, not to say that there are no differences with the audience beyond this time. 30 00:03:55,400 --> 00:04:00,920 In fact, there is ample scope for the exploitation game came in Sanskrit, 31 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:06,990 Bengali, Deong and the many other languages and across different time periods. 32 00:04:06,990 --> 00:04:14,350 I have restricted the scope of this study largely due to my limitations of resources. 33 00:04:14,350 --> 00:04:17,330 The text consulted for this particular paper. 34 00:04:17,330 --> 00:04:26,750 It does well will offer an opportunity for us to understand the various points of view about the British identity as manifested 35 00:04:26,750 --> 00:04:35,930 in the world of Marathi speakers ranging from the harsh critical to the unabashedly items that many shades in between. 36 00:04:35,930 --> 00:04:42,770 This what I did like makos of it, of the monarchy, you nature, the colonial Indian society, 37 00:04:42,770 --> 00:04:53,210 which responded to the colonial realities in many different ways, which often surprises the conveniently labelled extremists going to be seen. 38 00:04:53,210 --> 00:05:00,620 Writing Hartford obituaries for the Queen and the reformers accused of fraternising with the enemy cited 39 00:05:00,620 --> 00:05:08,360 historical examples of English kings being forced to accept popular demands for political rights. 40 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:13,130 It is hoped that a sort of veil of such a white ideal sources may help us understand the 41 00:05:13,130 --> 00:05:19,370 reasons behind the present day contestations about the events from the colonial past. 42 00:05:19,370 --> 00:05:23,900 It is probable that this might eventually help for city fashion. 43 00:05:23,900 --> 00:05:29,600 The narratives of Maharashtrian history, which are created for public consumption. 44 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:37,940 Finally, such a sensitive and textured understanding of the colonial past me help us realise that Indian modernity and 45 00:05:37,940 --> 00:05:44,360 the creation of the Indian nation are phenomena that have come into being as oki's that of multiple interests, 46 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:56,670 objectives and metrics. And the yardsticks of modern nationalism are not applicable universally and we're not. 47 00:05:56,670 --> 00:06:02,970 One of the earliest authors to speak up about the colonial conquest was, look at it, divided writing. 48 00:06:02,970 --> 00:06:11,430 Shut up. Three hundred and eight letters to the editor of the weekly print pocket having served as a colonial administrator. 49 00:06:11,430 --> 00:06:18,690 Locate the Body is usually understood as an author who advocates why look at do gooders 50 00:06:18,690 --> 00:06:24,750 social reforms and offered a stingy self critique of the higher costs for being celebration. 51 00:06:24,750 --> 00:06:30,390 But Okin and thus responsible for the loss of political fumble as such. 52 00:06:30,390 --> 00:06:38,840 You seem as an admirer of Davidge. However, when it came to the matters of governance and administration, 53 00:06:38,840 --> 00:06:48,360 locate the body or find that the colonial rule did was in fact an opportunity to bring about political and social reform. 54 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:52,980 He cited the examples of King John and the demand for the Magna Carta, 55 00:06:52,980 --> 00:07:05,250 King Charles and the popular uprising against him as also a sign of King James juxtaposing them against the Indian understanding of monarchy. 56 00:07:05,250 --> 00:07:12,870 Look at the body of fine and I applaud. Such uprisings have been unheard of in India. 57 00:07:12,870 --> 00:07:17,600 He co-wrote the songs with Maxim, Georgia. How did they sort of Muslim rock opera? 58 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:26,990 They run a practise when looking at OP's view of everything, is lamenting, not feel tired. 59 00:07:26,990 --> 00:07:34,670 However, he argues that one can look up to examples of the English kings and learn that it is indeed possible 60 00:07:34,670 --> 00:07:43,040 to initiate political reforms and to bring a king down on his knees if he pursues repressive policies. 61 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:51,720 Thus, as boldly as eighteen hundred and fifty, with the aim of improving the quality and administration not going to body, 62 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:56,990 was citing the cases of popular pressure influencing the English tolerance. 63 00:07:56,990 --> 00:08:07,880 It certainly was a novelty based on advocating reforms. But I think within 20 years of the shuttle. 64 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:19,280 But unlike looking at the ready, Joe did awfully did not seem to advocate the idea of the English ordinance as rules that need to be made in. 65 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:26,360 Sincerely believing the Queen Victoria's proclamation of 1850 fully affirmed that improving the 66 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:33,320 lives of the downtrodden people was a responsibility which needed to be shorter by the queen. 67 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:45,270 In his track called The Cunning of Brahmins prominently, Kosa published in 1869 Natas just a few months before the famous infamous riot. 68 00:08:45,270 --> 00:08:49,320 Fully exhorted the queen to be answerable for the loss of livelihood. 69 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:57,350 As experienced by their decadent entities, as he stated in no uncertain terms, its coolness lost on the queen. 70 00:08:57,350 --> 00:09:05,840 Sage. I look, Johnny Biden showed do no party popo here was actually an orbiter guy, Edwards of Aberdeen. 71 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:16,460 How will you answer to this responsibility? He nodded the initiative of the Queen as she set an example for the world by abolition of slavery. 72 00:09:16,460 --> 00:09:23,060 And I quote said, of which I'm not at all. They're not lobby now, but luckily, Wolumla good an A. 73 00:09:23,060 --> 00:09:32,120 Showed us what that's what Joe did. Want some kind of a thought out anybody, some sort of a normal kid. 74 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:37,670 He asked her to visit. I'm a grad student. One of the enslaved people. 75 00:09:37,670 --> 00:09:43,730 Contrary to popular perception, Fuller did not mince words as he asked the queen. 76 00:09:43,730 --> 00:09:47,780 How can you sleep peacefully when you are the owner of the flock? 77 00:09:47,780 --> 00:09:53,690 The net anybody will focus digging. I so much gently bringing the name Castle. 78 00:09:53,690 --> 00:10:00,110 Sort of a dino. When Doucett. The Ballad of Chatterer put the Rogich composed in the same mirror. 79 00:10:00,110 --> 00:10:10,670 And again, Sixty-nine actually concluded with the indictment that the prophet of the Krien India is not as allured as fully would like it to be. 80 00:10:10,670 --> 00:10:13,650 This is because the brown file would be supreme. 81 00:10:13,650 --> 00:10:22,010 Everything, even the Collectors' District Court does that as they cannot counter the authority of the bureaucracy. 82 00:10:22,010 --> 00:10:32,210 I quote, subducted shoot anybody in the stunning Joga with not liquidity programme when Ushery thought it would win a fight. 83 00:10:32,210 --> 00:10:39,050 Thus, Falaise engagement with the Royals was not that of adulation and admiration. 84 00:10:39,050 --> 00:10:48,590 He admired the progressive elements of the British far, but did not flinch from making millions of it off the ground. 85 00:10:48,590 --> 00:11:00,570 Later in 1876, when he was invited for a dinner with the Prince of Wales, he shared the table dressed like a common futral. 86 00:11:00,570 --> 00:11:05,910 These examples from local about the flooding demonstrate good things about the 87 00:11:05,910 --> 00:11:11,380 British trials need not be considered as gloves off loyalists and anglophones, 88 00:11:11,380 --> 00:11:19,680 but one may be with them as they Nishan articulations of dialogue with the colonial monarchs initiated by the subjects. 89 00:11:19,680 --> 00:11:28,280 Sincerely believed that they would as much of British subjects as an Englishman living in England. 90 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:37,120 The disillusionment began to set in. In the later years of the 19th century, no frank assertion rights came to be placed. 91 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:44,030 My little side of islands of my the making respectful requests for the royal blessings by 92 00:11:44,030 --> 00:11:54,130 descendants of former rulers who now signed off as the humble sort of words of the English Channel. 93 00:11:54,130 --> 00:12:01,360 In 1876, when the prince of Wales visited India, do not tell which kind of been super composed. 94 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:06,840 Sounds good for an indictment. Schneeman is suffering some serious political leadership. 95 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:12,850 Yeah. From an account of the danger of the prince of Beats. 96 00:12:12,850 --> 00:12:18,830 Being sued goes a pittance occupied key lines of dirt cheap beach. 97 00:12:18,830 --> 00:12:24,350 He's a first class sort of the companion of the most exotic, did not want to start off India. 98 00:12:24,350 --> 00:12:27,260 And Raja. 99 00:12:27,260 --> 00:12:36,980 Quite a mouthful, considering that the Prince of Wales is named simply as the prince, which means Hindi may not compose the Sanskrit for him. 100 00:12:36,980 --> 00:12:45,830 Also, Hockett translated into English because you figured that, and I quote This book deserves to be read by five debated. 101 00:12:45,830 --> 00:12:50,060 Both natives and Europeans on the book. 102 00:12:50,060 --> 00:12:57,010 And it said it is a minute Crawford Vanderjagt describing in Woodfork magical versus things such as England. 103 00:12:57,010 --> 00:13:01,390 They show Rajdhani not just London, Victoria, me. 104 00:13:01,390 --> 00:13:08,660 You would object philosophy to what until they should win in a similar way also and so on. 105 00:13:08,660 --> 00:13:16,310 Just one example of the changed narrative about the English audience from this point maybe cited here. 106 00:13:16,310 --> 00:13:24,520 I know you want to jump into what you do to me, rather beat out two wrongs about it to let your come look on Medick, should they. 107 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:29,120 A major in Victoria for the money. Can we all do it fast? 108 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:34,920 And the translation approved by Professor Rajeevan Darkhold, no less. 109 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:44,240 And I thought that it was Victoria appointers to protect all the people of India by the Great gone out of his mercy, 110 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:52,920 seeing them afflicted with an immediate miseries brought on by unjust kings and. 111 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:59,880 It may not be out of place to mention here that the author was a descendant of the famous set about being sold to family. 112 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:06,420 That's sort of the base loss from whom the British had conquered most of the bomblet residents. 113 00:14:06,420 --> 00:14:10,620 This poem and the sentiments evoked that in a deep it is incredible, 114 00:14:10,620 --> 00:14:19,200 the literature which I just described and exalted royals in the hope of gaining or continuing to receive what do talk. 115 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:29,540 What a story. Felix. This official did so much just to outbidding of the Queen Victoria, 116 00:14:29,540 --> 00:14:34,930 continued attempts to communicate the living conditions all day and didn't kind of debate. 117 00:14:34,930 --> 00:14:46,350 The queen, the dean of Bundu off 7th October 1894, whim, hoping to communicate the lived experiences of the farmers with the queen. 118 00:14:46,350 --> 00:14:52,680 What they show on the line got a lot lot of time with the idea that I'd need to do someone who would deny me. 119 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:57,870 He would jump shot. I show join my Cassone Army GSW. 120 00:14:57,870 --> 00:15:03,190 She had the key to the actual data, but it could be, was it not need Mirali thought of it. 121 00:15:03,190 --> 00:15:13,850 I did not think that the long game of Queen Victoria meant that they devote a 122 00:15:13,850 --> 00:15:18,210 large number of next onsets to her in the nutrition of nineteenth century. 123 00:15:18,210 --> 00:15:27,980 My question, but should uncomfortable to bully a collaborator of Thomas Gandhi composed the following poem in her honour. 124 00:15:27,980 --> 00:15:33,720 So catchy. Paul McCartney Chitose on my also on YouTube could on my blog he issued Arny. 125 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:43,300 Why don't you take your book Local Go with the Gun, GCE said about the tiny subset of people who already solidity shuttle Bonnie Rick Doty on Sharone. 126 00:15:43,300 --> 00:15:46,140 Minutes of according Sonatine should deny. 127 00:15:46,140 --> 00:15:58,940 It's not good for you, of course, but Majesty's financial and military power is amply underlined in the word decoupling. 128 00:15:58,940 --> 00:16:02,030 1897 was the year of the Queen computer. 129 00:16:02,030 --> 00:16:10,650 Sixty years of between the Diamond Jubilee inspired number of meningitis, as well as other writings about being destroyed. 130 00:16:10,650 --> 00:16:19,320 In general and the Queen in book 22nd June 1897 is a date remembered by the Russians as 131 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:24,410 the day when the topic of brothers assassinated the British Plague commissioner of Huni. 132 00:16:24,410 --> 00:16:30,000 WC and aspersions were cast on Monday to look for having incited the topic of 133 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:36,240 brothers to punish the commissioner for his lack of respect for the local culture. 134 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:43,510 The editorial of QST on this day, however, is the last of the TRT audience in Britain, Mahogany said. 135 00:16:43,510 --> 00:16:49,070 Godson JJ got victory to the Queen and I could go. 136 00:16:49,070 --> 00:16:56,810 The biggest surprise for me while searching for the source materials, was the emotionally charged editorial of Casey, 137 00:16:56,810 --> 00:17:08,640 which was written as an obituary to the queen in 1982 when one of the personal details about the queen and her common composed demeanour, 138 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:19,050 her sensitivity towards Indian subjects, and such as that question was described in the editorial, Make one wonder if one is indeed reading a city. 139 00:17:19,050 --> 00:17:24,360 It is no surprise then that a schoolteacher goes full in how you know. 140 00:17:24,360 --> 00:17:27,420 Good luck with wrote a poem entitled. 141 00:17:27,420 --> 00:17:37,120 But I only get to on the Monday comma, a small maharani, Victoria daughter en route to the local mom is quite a woman. 142 00:17:37,120 --> 00:17:41,060 But I didn't get the first medical impact of the Queen. 143 00:17:41,060 --> 00:17:45,120 It is by the point. Is the setting up. Of course not. 144 00:17:45,120 --> 00:17:49,570 You didn't mind considering that the boy is a schoolmaster now, Giovanni. 145 00:17:49,570 --> 00:17:53,430 You've got the Jubilee you up. I'm of that age. 146 00:17:53,430 --> 00:18:00,050 You are not with the whole parish. Osaki Kaili School in your my. 147 00:18:00,050 --> 00:18:05,710 Not all the praise for the queen stemmed from personal tragedy. No, indeed, on Monday. 148 00:18:05,710 --> 00:18:15,180 And ardent supporter showed that some module's voter packed in Bindoon without Chad criticising the high cost of dominance within Hinduism. 149 00:18:15,180 --> 00:18:20,650 He concluded the text with a ploy in English should gent's on my notebook. 150 00:18:20,650 --> 00:18:24,250 JJ, I gotta get up. Get some Manabe up. 151 00:18:24,250 --> 00:18:28,600 Go, go, go. Go languidly. Technology. Take off. 152 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:38,340 JJ Got it down. Lahart I need some Lydie on my watch. We'll double the net only by giant Jetta Lugnut Nepotism Village. 153 00:18:38,340 --> 00:18:49,120 No date online it will not. Dave Carney wanted it on by the gratitude for the Queen in this case stems from the fact that the Queen had 154 00:18:49,120 --> 00:18:56,710 indeed assured that modern education would be available for the subjects irrespective of their social status. 155 00:18:56,710 --> 00:19:01,610 Thus, it is important to understand that the motivating forces behind them, 156 00:19:01,610 --> 00:19:14,590 what our two speakers are doing about the destroyers, maybe the personal and the political, would irreversibly intertwined. 157 00:19:14,590 --> 00:19:20,230 Going back to the Julie McCarthy shows off 1922 mentioned at the beginning of this paper, 158 00:19:20,230 --> 00:19:28,290 we find that the prince was welcomed by a number of organisations, the pocket buddy ship of the Bombay presidency, Boston. 159 00:19:28,290 --> 00:19:33,000 It's a nation welcoming the prince of Prince to India. 160 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:37,370 I'm not filming the visions at all. Income resolution. 161 00:19:37,370 --> 00:19:45,910 We show you met our target to get shipped in 1922. Reports was received favourably about the Defence Secretary, 162 00:19:45,910 --> 00:19:50,770 even communicated the prince's pleasure at the message of the additions and 163 00:19:50,770 --> 00:19:55,450 wrote that the prince was deeply concerned about the cause of the progress of 164 00:19:55,450 --> 00:20:00,540 the farmers and Bartons another meeting with Tenet and so that our district 165 00:20:00,540 --> 00:20:05,230 will collect some fines for starting a boarding school for non brown students. 166 00:20:05,230 --> 00:20:13,110 The news report, in which a man mentions that the meeting concluded with slogans of victory to the March show. 167 00:20:13,110 --> 00:20:20,410 George Bush used just a petition I did not and just the application on and rebutted the same issue. 168 00:20:20,410 --> 00:20:24,780 Reports that a public meeting of a looks fifteen hundred Suriano, she marked them. 169 00:20:24,780 --> 00:20:31,270 The people once headed. It would stop at our district. The first resolution was of allegiance to the crown. 170 00:20:31,270 --> 00:20:37,270 This was followed by demands for some parts of the education, decriminalisation and the like. 171 00:20:37,270 --> 00:20:42,940 But if you will, of news reports of this period shows that the first resolution of any such meetings 172 00:20:42,940 --> 00:20:49,540 were always proclaimed Rajneesh top religions will become the good organisations seem 173 00:20:49,540 --> 00:20:54,940 to have devised a formula and normalised procedure of conveying their grievances 174 00:20:54,940 --> 00:21:04,290 and demands to the King in the hope that he might indeed make a difference to not. 175 00:21:04,290 --> 00:21:11,620 Sometimes the personal details of the lives with the English trials were also published for public consumption. 176 00:21:11,620 --> 00:21:20,160 The panegyric by this quartermaster. Did I mention that the queen gave birth to nine children, of which seven survived? 177 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:27,670 Let me show you what our two reports the that George has gifted Druidry worth two hundred thousand pounds to his daughter Frances 178 00:21:27,670 --> 00:21:37,980 M80 celebrating gift and that the Princes has also received from dog outcome visual mignot goodness to be used in the T8. 179 00:21:37,980 --> 00:21:44,820 Sometimes one wonders if that is where it is. I mean, it is ostensibly declarations of loyalty. 180 00:21:44,820 --> 00:21:53,730 For example, the following snippet from the Dean over 12 months that it indeed must be a cause of pleasure for all the lion subjects of the Queen. 181 00:21:53,730 --> 00:22:00,290 A professor of chemistry managed to remove the top dog niched face of the Queen's statue 182 00:22:00,290 --> 00:22:06,280 to Millicent College Professor TKD gotcha yet was adopted to his touch of money. 183 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:11,750 Not only side Munchak with tonality. That's a dog. Ajibade Nigunim, his calmness. 184 00:22:11,750 --> 00:22:16,590 I'm on a partisan bushwalking yaku dress. We do good enough job bluestones. 185 00:22:16,590 --> 00:22:17,970 I'm just stating that's. 186 00:22:17,970 --> 00:22:28,110 I hate to say this pop song is a similar occupation, Dundy, but that's nothing but a little dog soft cartoon talking about me. 187 00:22:28,110 --> 00:22:36,250 I call Saadia Virginia's top notch judge and on and on doesn't want me. 188 00:22:36,250 --> 00:22:45,420 To come to. The English writers form the subject matter of a large body of literature in Morocco. 189 00:22:45,420 --> 00:22:51,450 These literary pieces offered an insight into the different emotive forces behind the addresses, 190 00:22:51,450 --> 00:22:56,880 descriptions, panagiotis and criticisms aimed towards the royals. 191 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,060 One needs to have a texture, an understanding of these sources, 192 00:23:00,060 --> 00:23:06,900 situating them in the contemporary ethos and the cost gloss, location, vocational doctors, 193 00:23:06,900 --> 00:23:10,410 generalisations and labelling of persons as lawyer, 194 00:23:10,410 --> 00:23:20,450 loyalists or students seem to be not very useful considering the surprises that these new dirty sources talk to substance. 195 00:23:20,450 --> 00:23:22,770 What do you do in the study of these and other source? 196 00:23:22,770 --> 00:23:30,300 My students can enrich our understanding of the processes that led to the creation of the Indian nation. 197 00:23:30,300 --> 00:23:32,920 It may also be realised that India and more done. 198 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:45,640 It was a product of a crisscross of emotive factors and not a uniform and chronological journey from point A to point B. 199 00:23:45,640 --> 00:24:06,530 Outlooking. Thank you so much for this wonderful paper shredder, and I'm requesting the attendees to type in your questions in the Q&A box. 200 00:24:06,530 --> 00:24:13,570 And in the meanwhile, that is one question from us, from Holly. 201 00:24:13,570 --> 00:24:18,380 Holly O'Hanlan, the moderator. And I'll read it out loud. 202 00:24:18,380 --> 00:24:24,410 So could you say something about the way in which the government of India worked 203 00:24:24,410 --> 00:24:30,920 hard to make the public image of Victoria available for this kind of appeal? 204 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:36,260 It's interesting in this connexion that the 1858 proclamation that the government of India 205 00:24:36,260 --> 00:24:41,900 would not interfere with religious culture was depicted as coming from Victoria itself, 206 00:24:41,900 --> 00:24:46,680 myself, personally. Yes. 207 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:51,120 Thank you, Bonnie, for the lady that walked in and question. 208 00:24:51,120 --> 00:24:58,490 Yes, there was definitely a lot of image making that was more including, if you like, 209 00:24:58,490 --> 00:25:05,460 the images of Queen Victoria that when published a backlash printed and distributed. 210 00:25:05,460 --> 00:25:13,880 One of the slides that I showed spoke about and if I may, shaddick again. 211 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:19,880 Yeah, sure. Yes. This is from a book called US. 212 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:25,140 We'll do That Part of My Life, which speaks about Earth Queen Victoria's portal. 213 00:25:25,140 --> 00:25:29,740 And here or Lady asks, mustering by lining up politics. 214 00:25:29,740 --> 00:25:35,310 Ain't that the obvious? Catchy, but it isn't. How can we see the queen's face if we weren't here? 215 00:25:35,310 --> 00:25:45,150 The other lady says that I've got a picture of the queen, which is its description essentially for photographs with the queen that was printed. 216 00:25:45,150 --> 00:25:53,750 Not necessarily, but that's a photograph. I mean, an image of the queen that was distributed her as a collectable. 217 00:25:53,750 --> 00:25:59,820 There were been sorts of commemorative made of this that were distributed. 218 00:25:59,820 --> 00:26:06,600 So a lot of image making. Yes, definitely happened. Well, and young. 219 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,800 I mean, that's that's something that is quite remarkable, 220 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:19,390 considering that the limited means of formal reading material, in fact, what I believe in for the people. 221 00:26:19,390 --> 00:26:25,350 Yes. I just wanted to see if I've answered your question. 222 00:26:25,350 --> 00:26:31,140 Thank you. OK. Lynn wants to add to that. 223 00:26:31,140 --> 00:26:43,620 Shannon, can you ask your question directly? Yo, your music, Shirley. 224 00:26:43,620 --> 00:26:53,520 All right. Is that OK? Yeah. I was, of course, drawn to the fact that the last of the mentioned says that, oh, don't you see her picture on the queen? 225 00:26:53,520 --> 00:27:03,360 And I would like to just to comment here so that that particular depiction of the queen on the queen is actually unique to India. 226 00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:10,890 And there has been a lot of discussion that was going on on how to depict the queen in an Indian fashion. 227 00:27:10,890 --> 00:27:16,410 So it was obviously conceived in a deliberate manner to appeal to the Indian audience, 228 00:27:16,410 --> 00:27:21,090 because it is she's actually shown wearing a mogel brocade kind of gown. 229 00:27:21,090 --> 00:27:28,740 And the previous portrait on the coins was not actually with any royal vestiges of sovereignty. 230 00:27:28,740 --> 00:27:33,990 So, for example, the East India Company quintet's also had the picture of the queen, but she was shown without a crown. 231 00:27:33,990 --> 00:27:40,350 And she was just a kind of a sort of idealised image, as you seen it, lacking in public art, 232 00:27:40,350 --> 00:27:47,390 really, whereas this particular leader portrait that was launched in 1862 was based. 233 00:27:47,390 --> 00:27:56,680 And that is that there is a huge discussion going on before two years prior to that on how that image was to be conceived. 234 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:02,060 Thanks. Thank you, Shannon, for Rick Newman. 235 00:28:02,060 --> 00:28:16,570 David, thanks. There's a there's a comment and question from each lashing, slashing John Hollowly mandated on duty on each shore. 236 00:28:16,570 --> 00:28:24,040 Whatever's comfortable if you're going to let them. Hold on. 237 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:34,060 Did you publish them? Orchestrally asks a bit of relevant ethnographic observation from 1976, early in the days of Indiana. 238 00:28:34,060 --> 00:28:35,410 These emergency rule. 239 00:28:35,410 --> 00:28:43,450 One of the leaders in a soccer village which was active in the anti British but three secondary movement of nineteen forty three to 240 00:28:43,450 --> 00:28:53,440 forty five praised the Prime Minister's assertion of authority by referring to how good things were in the days of the Big Victoria, 241 00:28:53,440 --> 00:29:01,660 Ronnie and George function. I published this report in 1977, says Lee. 242 00:29:01,660 --> 00:29:08,050 Being the rebellious, nationalist and loyal to royal authority are not necessarily mutually exclusive. 243 00:29:08,050 --> 00:29:15,470 She does. Bringing new ones to colonial Maharashtrian history is most is much welcome. 244 00:29:15,470 --> 00:29:20,580 Go, action. Thank you, professor situation. Yes, yes, definitely. 245 00:29:20,580 --> 00:29:31,320 I mean, she especially the Queen Victoria. She has become a part of common parlance, as it were, because they were people. 246 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:36,900 Many big questions. Somebody was thinking about themselves. 247 00:29:36,900 --> 00:29:44,940 We say, who do you think you are, Queen Victoria or what? So definitely she has in common parlance, 248 00:29:44,940 --> 00:29:57,180 as as somebody who was reported to have figured out somebody who's commanding a lot of respect and attention and follow time to professor. 249 00:29:57,180 --> 00:30:05,760 She can just come in. I can see a couple of questions, more benign, patchy questions. 250 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:12,440 And also, I think the next one is from Christian of that scale. Can it do you want me to read it? 251 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:17,670 Sure. Yes. Yes, please. So he says thank you for this wonderful paper. 252 00:30:17,670 --> 00:30:22,260 I'm interested in the rhetorical effect of these appeals to the royals. 253 00:30:22,260 --> 00:30:29,220 For example, I see Falaise a hunger to Queen Victoria in the light of other rhetorical techniques, 254 00:30:29,220 --> 00:30:34,290 such as his appeals to Parshuram to appear at his home. Also in Gulam Gitti. 255 00:30:34,290 --> 00:30:43,410 In other words, do you see this as both appeal to some vision of colonial liberalism, but also a critique of it at the same time? 256 00:30:43,410 --> 00:30:48,970 And he says, sorry if you address this. But I kept losing Internet. 257 00:30:48,970 --> 00:30:55,140 Thank you, Christian, for that wonderful question. Yes, definitely. 258 00:30:55,140 --> 00:31:06,610 The problems of languish as we had the opportunity to discuss them in the conference on really, really. 259 00:31:06,610 --> 00:31:19,840 I mean, fascinating, the way one can use languished to ostensibly show respect and also to express criticism, perhaps. 260 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:32,930 I think it's it's a great idea. Do you invoke these do other things that especially fooler is and is the way he uses the language? 261 00:31:32,930 --> 00:31:37,540 Nobody for want of a better word. 262 00:31:37,540 --> 00:31:44,160 They see they're not they say they see is not the right word in a committed fashion. 263 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:54,930 See his use of the Manocha language. This is all for idiom of body and body. 264 00:31:54,930 --> 00:32:05,330 The baby tries to make connexions between the religion that is popular with the masses and all that, 265 00:32:05,330 --> 00:32:13,980 though the kind of such as that doctor, we don't get the society. 266 00:32:13,980 --> 00:32:23,890 I think that definitely the language is both not beautiful or vision of colonial liberalism, trying to trying to get more concessions, 267 00:32:23,890 --> 00:32:30,700 trying to appeal to their conscience, as it were, and also a kind of a critique at the same time. 268 00:32:30,700 --> 00:32:44,510 I'm also saying that really does not mince words when it comes to a very, very you an issue which is dire, which is really very close to his heart. 269 00:32:44,510 --> 00:32:51,150 And he says that it is your responsibility for the queen, especially in order to done so. 270 00:32:51,150 --> 00:32:55,290 I think you'll look so much doing a lot of looking eye. 271 00:32:55,290 --> 00:33:05,830 And some of them have been arrested by the British and then released that I thought they conducted an absolute military, which would. 272 00:33:05,830 --> 00:33:13,790 So he is definitely one. Was this W detention when he was addressing the queen? 273 00:33:13,790 --> 00:33:19,350 Thank you. Next question, the next question is better be nice and good. 274 00:33:19,350 --> 00:33:28,140 She says, Interesting people, Professor Converge. God, it reminds me of various energetic write up made in northern parts of India where the 275 00:33:28,140 --> 00:33:34,140 people of Banaras and Matura especially eulogised the British rule and Queen's rule. 276 00:33:34,140 --> 00:33:40,860 But perhaps it was more about seeking salvation in another authority other than the old regime. 277 00:33:40,860 --> 00:33:47,880 It's more a comment than a question. It was truly an interesting paper to further look into the public image of empire. 278 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,570 Do you have anything to add to that? Yes. Thank you. 279 00:33:51,570 --> 00:33:55,680 Now and. Yeah. I mean, I agree with you. 280 00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:05,430 I have come across a number of sources in Hindi and also on sources in all sources in Farsi. 281 00:34:05,430 --> 00:34:14,490 In fact, this is this conference that is going to happen later in the summer months entitled Would Like Victoria. 282 00:34:14,490 --> 00:34:25,200 So looking forward to that as well. Yes, there are panegyric Souderton the Queen, but also in many different capitals. 283 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:30,690 Definitely. Thank you. The next question is but prejudice Funday. 284 00:34:30,690 --> 00:34:38,060 She says, following on police question. As someone who has watched all seasons of the Crown with great interest and 285 00:34:38,060 --> 00:34:43,330 ideally follows Kate Middleton's fashion on social media from time to time. 286 00:34:43,330 --> 00:34:50,490 I'm wondering how we can understand Victoria as a media spectacle of the time with her familiar portrait 287 00:34:50,490 --> 00:34:57,360 and how to differentiate between the consumption of that media spectacle and British imperial propaganda. 288 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:03,020 More broadly, can we separate the two? At all? 289 00:35:03,020 --> 00:35:08,370 Competition of the media, spectacle and propaganda. 290 00:35:08,370 --> 00:35:18,430 Yeah. I think we can separate the two because the people of Europe were also quite aware of the fact that there was an art of image making. 291 00:35:18,430 --> 00:35:26,040 There was a lot of backbiting going on at the back end of the empire, imperial powers that be. 292 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:36,210 So people seemed to or seemed to guns, you know, propaganda that was dished out to them. 293 00:35:36,210 --> 00:35:45,690 But there were also these attempts of subversion against foreign authorities. 294 00:35:45,690 --> 00:35:56,490 Of course, it was not possible to say negative things about society and in very harsh tones. 295 00:35:56,490 --> 00:36:06,240 But acts such as the one that was described towards the end of the presentation that could started in the face of the statue on the right. 296 00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:13,580 The critique offered by the likes of chiptune about English religion. 297 00:36:13,580 --> 00:36:17,580 This definitely do apply to what I do. 298 00:36:17,580 --> 00:36:23,130 Well done. Well, she goes as well. 299 00:36:23,130 --> 00:36:31,180 So I think definitely that is that is or is juncture between what was given for consumption by 300 00:36:31,180 --> 00:36:38,280 these colonial subjects and what was their true feelings or what was their image in their minds? 301 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:44,310 Yes, there is at this juncture between the two approaches. 302 00:36:44,310 --> 00:36:49,860 The next question is by Suraj. He says, thank you for your talk. 303 00:36:49,860 --> 00:36:58,380 I was wondering what the response of Marathi writers was to certain national events which had royalists at the centre stage. 304 00:36:58,380 --> 00:37:07,740 Do we see any difference in the way notions of social mobility and popular imagination construction change SLOAT suddenly on which royals? 305 00:37:07,740 --> 00:37:16,530 And in what context are they being talked about? One example that I have in mind is that of King George five and the Delhi coronation 306 00:37:16,530 --> 00:37:22,350 episode and the celebratory way in which it was talked about in the Demetra. 307 00:37:22,350 --> 00:37:34,450 Also, do you see any perceptible seepage of this adulation and set celebration amongst the Quotidien people right from 1857 onwards? 308 00:37:34,450 --> 00:37:40,080 Well, I suppose I wouldn't be able to answer all the questions of what I can do. 309 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:53,940 But one thing that comes to my mind, individuality, is that this this George the Fifth, he was a figure that was kind of forced upon him. 310 00:37:53,940 --> 00:37:58,050 This is also relevant to the audio question, I. Pratchett. 311 00:37:58,050 --> 00:38:05,250 So his image was forced upon the minds of the masses in different fashions. 312 00:38:05,250 --> 00:38:15,110 One of them being that, though, does schoolgoing children were made to decide a small poem which was addressed to. 313 00:38:15,110 --> 00:38:22,800 King George, the fifth wheel broke when General George Pataki. So on and so forth, so we pulled along and so on and so. 314 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:31,230 So the children were made to recite this poem right at the beginning of their school day every single day. 315 00:38:31,230 --> 00:38:47,360 Many of the older generation people from the last century, they do remember these poems and they do, of course, have stories to tell about debates. 316 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:53,640 They were made to recite the plans and also the way they made fun of these boys. 317 00:38:53,640 --> 00:39:04,080 So there is this duality. Yes, definitely. If not on sons, you are one of your questions. 318 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:10,310 The next is a comment by Sightly Bundy that she says, excellent pay. 319 00:39:10,310 --> 00:39:15,420 Push back on Bozkurt. Thanks for bringing up the nuances and local expressions. 320 00:39:15,420 --> 00:39:22,200 We regularly find wrought iron balconies depicting Queen Victoria along with Shivaji 321 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:29,590 Maharaj and gun d.g as part of the decorative motive in colonial architecture in Boston. 322 00:39:29,590 --> 00:39:36,000 Yes, there are so many in just the next two shanty about AVADO inciting those. 323 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:43,740 Thank you, sir. The next question is by Frank Conlin and he says, 324 00:39:43,740 --> 00:39:56,010 In 1967 I happened to be at the India Office Library where I learnt that Indian language posts received at Buckingham Palace for translation. 325 00:39:56,010 --> 00:40:06,780 I was shown a postcard from a person in the video bioregions requesting that the king of be done assist in obtaining could be done up, 326 00:40:06,780 --> 00:40:11,730 assist in obtaining a machine for clear cleaning his village. 327 00:40:11,730 --> 00:40:14,070 It may have been a reference to a Hoover. 328 00:40:14,070 --> 00:40:22,110 It was not clear, but it revealed a remarkable continuation of the idea of British royalty as a source of help. 329 00:40:22,110 --> 00:40:30,390 Yes. Thank you, professor. Definitely it does were seeing that on was seen as serious. 330 00:40:30,390 --> 00:40:37,500 They got to see us people, you know, figures who looked like last resort. 331 00:40:37,500 --> 00:40:44,820 And this fitted in very well with the notions of monarchy sovereignty from the previous eight us as well, 332 00:40:44,820 --> 00:40:51,730 because the way Queen Victoria is addressed as money.com cosmos on Georges Card, 333 00:40:51,730 --> 00:41:01,410 but show the prince is also getting a lot of attention in our language, which is not spoken, rated by anybody, but it sounds good. 334 00:41:01,410 --> 00:41:10,770 So this continuum from previous traditions or previous ideas of respect and honour. 335 00:41:10,770 --> 00:41:16,710 Definitely urgence with the example cited by Professor Condon's. 336 00:41:16,710 --> 00:41:26,550 Thank you so much. The next question is, but they've come out and he says that the paper gives very interesting insights. 337 00:41:26,550 --> 00:41:30,830 And his question is, is there any, quote, negative? 338 00:41:30,830 --> 00:41:38,830 He puts negative in quotes. Is that any negative textual presentation of Queen Victoria in the 19th century? 339 00:41:38,830 --> 00:41:49,420 Thank you, everyone. I could not find much of a negative textual representation in those in the text that I have so far. 340 00:41:49,420 --> 00:41:54,780 One side. Possibly for the reasons back to what I discussed. 341 00:41:54,780 --> 00:41:57,110 Disgusting when I've done some sketches. 342 00:41:57,110 --> 00:42:12,540 But of course, censorship and restrictions on articulation feel how much I feel this illusion or displeasure that people have to keep. 343 00:42:12,540 --> 00:42:20,120 So I'm not much of a negative representation, especially the textualism has been seen by me. 344 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:25,600 But of course, there are actual vandalism as described in the example. 345 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,550 And that is critique of the English ruling, gentlemen. 346 00:42:29,550 --> 00:42:36,300 We're not of the queen in particular. Possibly also because she's a lady. 347 00:42:36,300 --> 00:42:45,020 And obviously she was with five councils, France, but not many negative, extraordinary presentations. 348 00:42:45,020 --> 00:42:50,420 I'm seeing things. And I don't think it's just my computer. 349 00:42:50,420 --> 00:42:54,770 Professor Kornblum had Frank online has one final question. 350 00:42:54,770 --> 00:43:07,430 This might be the last question for this session. So the question is the degree to which the Meraki Prescot referenced the queen as the widow. 351 00:43:07,430 --> 00:43:17,070 Yes. Yes. Thank you, Professor. Professor calling and for all this input. 352 00:43:17,070 --> 00:43:29,750 Definitely. The queen is shown as a lady who was at the a fox, somebody who has lived a full life. 353 00:43:29,750 --> 00:43:35,180 These these references, the references to the personal life of the queen. 354 00:43:35,180 --> 00:43:44,870 I think indicative of the fact that her being a family person, part of being a mother, being a mother, many children loving. 355 00:43:44,870 --> 00:43:50,180 We do. I think these are ways in which the masses could connect with us. 356 00:43:50,180 --> 00:43:55,610 That she just. Just a very, very respectable lady, just like you and me. 357 00:43:55,610 --> 00:44:00,560 That was the sense probably that was identical because of it. 358 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:08,640 Also, that was the impression. Because one sees it all the time in many different many different works. 359 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:13,110 So the queen is seen as a mother as well as a devoted wife. 360 00:44:13,110 --> 00:44:16,630 What? David Atholl, especially the sons. 361 00:44:16,630 --> 00:44:28,410 Good point. By being sort of good describes it kind of gives us an explanation as to why the Prince of Wales is scared and I'm not the queen herself. 362 00:44:28,410 --> 00:44:38,420 Look, what I see is that the queen is weird. I know she has to look after so many subjects and you don't just need to a sees is dangerous. 363 00:44:38,420 --> 00:44:43,640 So the queen has sent her own son as voted present and there she is interested 364 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,630 in knowing the light of day and you kind to give it and so on and so forth. 365 00:44:47,630 --> 00:45:01,320 So her femininity of motherhood, being a family bosom is definitely something that is not as readily accepted by the union bosses. 366 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:02,472 Thank you.