1 00:00:00,660 --> 00:00:08,490 Thank you very much, Dr. Watson, and to Lloyd Elder dies and the organising committee. 2 00:00:08,490 --> 00:00:13,070 Thanks very much for this kind invitation. 3 00:00:13,070 --> 00:00:22,310 I'll be speaking on nuclear weapon free zones in the context of our conversation today and really trying to make the case that 4 00:00:22,310 --> 00:00:29,930 we should take these zones much more seriously than they have been taken either in the policy or the scholarly communities. 5 00:00:29,930 --> 00:00:37,460 And I'll be suggesting that in some way, nuclear weapon free zones, at least in one sense, 6 00:00:37,460 --> 00:00:45,480 represent perhaps the most far reaching and the most successful example of nuclear containment. 7 00:00:45,480 --> 00:00:53,200 In our recent nuclear history. At least since the. 8 00:00:53,200 --> 00:01:02,380 And so I'd like to advance this case for nuclear weapon free zones by looking at a few examples 9 00:01:02,380 --> 00:01:12,450 and also just reflecting on where they fit in the broader architecture of nuclear order. 10 00:01:12,450 --> 00:01:23,970 So at a summit in Cairo in 1996, President then Hosni Mubarak stood grinning before a phalanx of dignitaries heralding 11 00:01:23,970 --> 00:01:31,830 and celebrating the opening for signature of the African nuclear weapon free zone. 12 00:01:31,830 --> 00:01:44,160 The zone is affectionately called the Treaty of Pelin Dhaba Pelin Dabb is a portmanteau of Pela in the language which means end and in the story, 13 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:49,540 the treaty of ending the story. But far from ending the story, 14 00:01:49,540 --> 00:01:58,450 the Treaty of Darbar formed part of a multi continental trans historical story of the establishment 15 00:01:58,450 --> 00:02:06,880 and the persistence of nuclear weapon free zones which have lasted from 1967 to the present. 16 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:15,220 So to try and get our heads around the story, I'll offer a little bit of background on these nuclear weapon free zones. 17 00:02:15,220 --> 00:02:20,290 How many are there? Who signed them? Where do they obtain? 18 00:02:20,290 --> 00:02:21,730 What are they? 19 00:02:21,730 --> 00:02:30,430 And just so that we can get a deeper understanding of what these zones actually are and their extent, their remit and their jurisdiction. 20 00:02:30,430 --> 00:02:38,750 Then I'll look at this question of obedient rebellion before moving on to. 21 00:02:38,750 --> 00:02:45,420 The. Treaty on the prohibition of nuclear weapons and how that interfaces with nuclear weapon free zones, 22 00:02:45,420 --> 00:02:50,490 because I think we've got an interesting story there of both harmony and disharmony, 23 00:02:50,490 --> 00:02:57,130 which I think is particularly pertinent in the current era of nuclear order in which we find ourselves. 24 00:02:57,130 --> 00:03:00,540 So that's how the the brief remarks will will flow. 25 00:03:00,540 --> 00:03:13,990 So let me come on to this question of background and just provide a brief overview of the significance and the reach of nuclear weapon free zones. 26 00:03:13,990 --> 00:03:17,890 So. What are nuclear weapon free zones? 27 00:03:17,890 --> 00:03:26,820 It's actually a non-trivial question, and in fact, the legal architecture of nuclear weapon free zones represents. 28 00:03:26,820 --> 00:03:36,120 In my view, quite an elaborate legal achievement, not only in finding the language to contain and prohibited nuclear weapons, 29 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:45,150 but in order to get that language to be language, which is agreed often by tens, sometimes hundreds of states. 30 00:03:45,150 --> 00:03:57,540 So nuclear weapon free zones in a nutshell, are legally binding treaties which prevent the use of nuclear weapons in a given territory. 31 00:03:57,540 --> 00:04:03,050 And of course, there are various complexities which flow from that which we might get into in the questions. 32 00:04:03,050 --> 00:04:10,520 And these treaties require both the agreement of the states within that territory. 33 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,280 So let's take the African nuclear weapon free zone, for example. 34 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:18,140 You need the agreement of African states that the territory will be nuclear weapon free. 35 00:04:18,140 --> 00:04:23,190 But then you also need the agreement in additional protocols of the nuclear weapon states. 36 00:04:23,190 --> 00:04:30,530 And so far, these are between the officially recognised nuclear weapon states and the states within these zones. 37 00:04:30,530 --> 00:04:34,430 So there's quite a complex legal interplay between, on the one hand, 38 00:04:34,430 --> 00:04:42,550 non-nuclear states and given regions and the nuclear weapon states as they relate to these other regions. 39 00:04:42,550 --> 00:04:48,100 I mean, why do these zones matter and why do they deserve greater attention? 40 00:04:48,100 --> 00:04:56,110 Well, for one thing, if we're going to be looking at how nuclear non-proliferation, even disarmament, for that matter, might work, 41 00:04:56,110 --> 00:05:06,440 then we ought to look at the places where it actually has worked and where successes, even if limited and contingent, have been scored. 42 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:17,950 And it seems strange to me that while nuclear weapon free zones have spread and proliferated rather successfully since nineteen sixty seven, 43 00:05:17,950 --> 00:05:22,690 we give them so little importance in our discussions of non-proliferation. 44 00:05:22,690 --> 00:05:27,040 And I think part of the reason for that is their location in the global south, 45 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:35,710 a sense in which we might not have anything to learn from the way that the global south has tackled nuclear non-proliferation. 46 00:05:35,710 --> 00:05:43,000 But it's exactly in those places where we have been shy to look that in fact some of the most important work has been done, 47 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:49,930 complex work has been done to show the way towards nuclear containment. 48 00:05:49,930 --> 00:05:54,550 And so I think we need to take off the blinkers, as it were, 49 00:05:54,550 --> 00:06:08,620 and tried to treat this process of denuclearisation or at least nuclear prohibition in the global south with the seriousness it deserves. 50 00:06:08,620 --> 00:06:14,130 How many zones are there and how many have been tried? 51 00:06:14,130 --> 00:06:24,270 We have 10 zones that have at least open for signature in the Antarctic, as you can see here, that was the first one in fifty nine. 52 00:06:24,270 --> 00:06:34,320 They cover a wide and interesting range of of states, regions, the entirety of outer space to the seabed. 53 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:44,070 But the zones that I think are of particular interest are regionally defined, territorial state implicated zones. 54 00:06:44,070 --> 00:06:52,710 And these particularly include the African nuclear weapon free zone, as I mentioned, 55 00:06:52,710 --> 00:06:58,110 the Latin American nuclear weapon free zone and the South Pacific nuclear weapon free zone. 56 00:06:58,110 --> 00:07:04,350 And it's on those zones that I want to focus, because those are, I would suggest, 57 00:07:04,350 --> 00:07:09,330 three of the more successful zones from which we might draw some insights. 58 00:07:09,330 --> 00:07:20,490 Again, we can get on to some of the failures and the Middle Eastern question, perhaps in later sections, but in the interests of preserving time. 59 00:07:20,490 --> 00:07:24,630 Let me just also show you the coverage of nuclear weapon free zones. 60 00:07:24,630 --> 00:07:35,580 So what do we have in this image? We have various kinds of nuclear security, governance arrangements and how they cover the world. 61 00:07:35,580 --> 00:07:43,110 And in blue, yeah, you have nuclear weapon free zones juxtaposed against states possessing nuclear weapons 62 00:07:43,110 --> 00:07:49,860 and red nuclear sharing agreements where state might not possess nuclear weapons itself, 63 00:07:49,860 --> 00:07:54,600 but has some kind of agreement with the state that does and the NPT only. 64 00:07:54,600 --> 00:08:02,580 So where a state is only a signatory or has ratified the NPT but is not involved in a sharing agreement or or a nuclear weapon free zone. 65 00:08:02,580 --> 00:08:13,680 And you can see that the coverage of nuclear weapon free zones is distinctive in its location in the global south, but is also extremely wide ranging. 66 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:23,370 And you now have over one hundred and twenty states that have in one way or another signed up to these nuclear weapon free zones. 67 00:08:23,370 --> 00:08:32,610 So barring the NPT, there's an argument to be made that these regional regional initiatives from the bottom up, 68 00:08:32,610 --> 00:08:45,480 as it were, constitute the next most successful example of collaborative, multilateral nuclear renunciation. 69 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:52,440 Let me move on to this question of obedient rebellion and try and encapsulated in a nutshell, 70 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:57,540 because I think the way that these zones have emerged in global nuclear order teaches us something 71 00:08:57,540 --> 00:09:05,640 about how zones might spread in the future and why these zones have been particularly resilient. 72 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:10,730 Dr. Ritchie referred earlier to a kind of a. 73 00:09:10,730 --> 00:09:17,920 Nuclear D colonial sentiment on the part of states in the global south and. 74 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,310 That is certainly part of the story with nuclear weapon free zones. 75 00:09:21,310 --> 00:09:28,030 There's a sense in which decolonisation and denuclearisation became entangled at the same historical moment. 76 00:09:28,030 --> 00:09:37,780 And the questions have always been linked to these states so that a kind of rebellious attitude to nuclear order underpins much of the rhetoric. 77 00:09:37,780 --> 00:09:48,400 And much of the politics which surrounds these states are trying to send a message to global nuclear order 78 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:58,270 that at least they themselves renounce nuclear weapons and the colonial connotations that flow from them. 79 00:09:58,270 --> 00:10:02,740 But alongside this rebellious attitude, as it were, 80 00:10:02,740 --> 00:10:08,410 is an obedient one to the extent that all of this rebellion happens within the context of the existing 81 00:10:08,410 --> 00:10:17,350 global institutions as they currently stand so that these zones are underpinned by ultimately the NPT. 82 00:10:17,350 --> 00:10:26,830 A lot of the conversation of these zones happens within the United Nations itself, within formally recognised international fora. 83 00:10:26,830 --> 00:10:35,860 These states also have a contending impulse to form part of the global nuclear order to be good nuclear citizens to, 84 00:10:35,860 --> 00:10:40,660 as Sebastian mentioned, be responsible nuclear players. 85 00:10:40,660 --> 00:10:46,960 So what we really have here is a paradoxical situation which binds these zones because 86 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:51,970 they become faura in which states are able to resolve these competing tensions. 87 00:10:51,970 --> 00:10:58,090 On the one hand, by joining a zone, you get to send the middle finger to the nuclear order. 88 00:10:58,090 --> 00:11:02,830 But on the other hand, you also get to signal your commitment to that same order. 89 00:11:02,830 --> 00:11:12,520 And so it's this paradoxical sense in which these zones represent contending impulses that actually, ironically, bind them. 90 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:17,190 And I would argue in many cases this. 91 00:11:17,190 --> 00:11:25,140 Explains why nuclear order itself has continued to hang together because it has been able to represent two states in the global south, 92 00:11:25,140 --> 00:11:30,780 both a rebellion against and an obedience towards global nuclear order. 93 00:11:30,780 --> 00:11:39,360 And so I think this tension is something that we we should reflect further on when we think about how further examples of nuclear non-proliferation, 94 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:44,250 proliferation or enunciation might play out. 95 00:11:44,250 --> 00:11:50,040 I just like to end, if I might, if I do still have the time. 96 00:11:50,040 --> 00:12:03,080 Dr. Watson, with with a reflection. Yep. Sorry, very briefly, if you would write. 97 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:11,950 Let me do this, let me leave the question of the treaty on the prohibition of nuclear weapons and nuclear weapon free zones for the for the questions, 98 00:12:11,950 --> 00:12:26,010 perhaps, but try to offer some brief concluding remarks and and show what I think is at least the most low hanging fruit before us. 99 00:12:26,010 --> 00:12:32,820 The thing for me at the moment is it seems that we have an arrangement from below with nuclear weapon free zones in various regions, 100 00:12:32,820 --> 00:12:37,980 and then we have a treaty on the prohibitions for nuclear weapons from above. 101 00:12:37,980 --> 00:12:44,580 And these two things need to marry and meet with the NPT somewhere in between. 102 00:12:44,580 --> 00:12:56,790 One of the most simple ways or one of the low hanging fruit, it seems to me, is, is this and perhaps I'll leave it here. 103 00:12:56,790 --> 00:13:09,470 The African nuclear weapon free zone and the latter the South Pacific nuclear weapon free zone have have been ratified by China. 104 00:13:09,470 --> 00:13:19,980 France, Russia and the United Kingdom. The United States has signed but not ratified the African nuclear weapon free zone. 105 00:13:19,980 --> 00:13:27,150 Same for the South Pacific nuclear weapon free zone, China, France, Russia, the United Kingdom. 106 00:13:27,150 --> 00:13:34,800 The United States has signed but not ratified. Surely one of the key steps we could be taking in the immediate term, 107 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:39,360 perhaps at this opportune moment with the Biden administration is getting the United 108 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:45,870 States to ratify the African and the South Pacific nuclear weapon free zone treaty. 109 00:13:45,870 --> 00:13:53,740 That, it would seem to me, would be a key practical step that could be taken towards the question of nuclear renunciation. 110 00:13:53,740 --> 00:13:58,540 So lots to ponder on in the comments, lots to move forward on, 111 00:13:58,540 --> 00:14:08,770 but I would suggest ultimately that if we want to understand how nuclear non-proliferation, nuclear containment, even disarmament works, 112 00:14:08,770 --> 00:14:14,020 then we ought to cast our eye to the places it actually has worked, continues to work, 113 00:14:14,020 --> 00:14:19,120 and think from those places how the lessons that have been learnt and the contradictions 114 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:24,550 under which those lessons have taken place might apply in a more broad sense. 115 00:14:24,550 --> 00:14:33,430 Thanks. Look forward to questions and to engaging further. Please do reach out to me if you have any questions after this conference.