1 00:00:01,260 --> 00:00:06,370 So I have to say. 2 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:16,810 Hello and welcome. My name is Liz Carmichael and I'm a co-convener of UX peace. 3 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:25,110 I'm happy to welcome you to this rerecording of the opening talk at the annual conference of UX peace, 4 00:00:25,710 --> 00:00:32,850 the Oxford Network of Peace Studies, given in Oxford on Saturday the 18th of May, 2024. 5 00:00:33,690 --> 00:00:40,980 The conference theme is New Actors and the Changing Field in Peacemaking and Peacebuilding. 6 00:00:41,940 --> 00:00:46,470 During the opening session with the speakers in person, 7 00:00:47,130 --> 00:00:55,740 we had a problem with the recording and we are grateful to the two opening speakers for rerecording separately their talks. 8 00:00:56,940 --> 00:01:08,330 Just after the event. Welcome to this first talk by professor Roger McGinty, recorded on zoom with the added bonus of his PowerPoint presentation. 9 00:01:09,420 --> 00:01:19,680 Roger Mckinty is professor at the School of Government and International Affairs and director of the Durham Global Security Institute, 10 00:01:20,130 --> 00:01:30,360 both at Durham University. He is co-editor of the journal peacebuilding and co-founder of Everyday Peace Indicators. 11 00:01:31,650 --> 00:01:36,930 He works on the interface between bottom up and top down approaches to peace. 12 00:01:37,960 --> 00:01:46,630 Roger, thank you for being with us. And we welcome you to speak on limits and alternative approaches to peacemaking. 13 00:01:47,110 --> 00:01:54,909 Roger McGinty. Thank you lose. And thank you to everyone at Oxford Peace for organising this. 14 00:01:54,910 --> 00:02:01,390 And congratulations to OCS, PS for simply being there and talking about peace. 15 00:02:01,930 --> 00:02:08,140 Indeed it's important, I think, that we talk about peace in times of war. 16 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:14,350 It's important that we talk about what peace might mean. 17 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,460 There's a lot of talk about war at the moment. 18 00:02:18,670 --> 00:02:28,840 And in fact, some people say that we're in a 1930s moment, and I have some sympathy with that view. 19 00:02:32,750 --> 00:02:47,450 In fact, some people say that multilateralism is under immense stress and that there is a greater emphasis no UN security alliances, uncertainly. 20 00:02:47,450 --> 00:03:02,690 We see that with the expansion of NATO, we see the outbreak of wars, many of these wars with potential to become regional or indeed global wars. 21 00:03:03,110 --> 00:03:10,970 We see the rise of populist movements across Europe, central South America and elsewhere. 22 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,510 We see rearmament campaigns. 23 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:33,530 Indeed, recently, the Sipri figures have shown that there was a year on year 6.8 increase in global armed spending between 2022 and 2023. 24 00:03:33,950 --> 00:03:45,260 That meant that a total of $202,443 billion was spent on arms last year. 25 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:59,590 In fact, the US government in 2022 spent $48 billion with Lockheed Martin, the arms manufacturer. 26 00:04:00,070 --> 00:04:05,260 That's almost the size of the entire UK defence budget. 27 00:04:06,130 --> 00:04:17,950 And in April of this year, the UK prime minister, Rishi Sunak, put the UK defence industry on what he called a war footing. 28 00:04:19,660 --> 00:04:24,520 But of course, there was another 1930s. 29 00:04:24,970 --> 00:04:31,480 There was the 1930s in which some brave people talked about peace. 30 00:04:31,810 --> 00:04:39,160 People like Vera Brittan or Victor Galanos or those involved in the Peace Pledge Union. 31 00:04:39,610 --> 00:04:49,510 Many of them had been scarred by their experiences of World War One, and they didn't want to see another global conflict. 32 00:04:50,500 --> 00:05:02,800 So it is important in times of flux to reflect and to look forward and to evaluate the role of peace in our time. 33 00:05:04,620 --> 00:05:13,550 And. In this talk, I want to consider alternatives to current approaches to peace, 34 00:05:14,210 --> 00:05:22,070 and I want to consider either tolerance or possibly lack of tolerance to those alternatives. 35 00:05:23,700 --> 00:05:26,760 So what are your limits in relation to peace? 36 00:05:27,390 --> 00:05:32,190 What are your red lines? In fact, do we have red lines? 37 00:05:32,850 --> 00:05:44,310 And do new actors and new approaches change fundamentally what we mean or might mean by peace? 38 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:56,050 Let me. Whet your appetite for these red lines. 39 00:05:56,070 --> 00:06:00,840 These questions about alternatives to peace through an example. 40 00:06:01,350 --> 00:06:05,550 And it's a micro example that comes from the everyday peace indicators. 41 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:14,130 And through those indicators, we ask community members to identify their own measures of peace. 42 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:25,830 What does peace mean to them? So rather than relying on experts or scholars to define indicators of peace or change, 43 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:33,090 we ask community members themselves to determine what peace might look like. 44 00:06:33,930 --> 00:06:44,880 So, for example, in Afghanistan, we have things like people having antennas, television antennas on rooftops. 45 00:06:45,540 --> 00:06:57,390 That means they can watch whatever they want without censorship or social control from the Taliban or fuel stations being open during the night. 46 00:06:57,690 --> 00:07:08,640 It's a sign of security. It's a sign that there is some form of peace, or perhaps female vaccinators coming to our village. 47 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:18,300 It's a sign that females can work. Females can travel, but also that there is some form of public health at work. 48 00:07:18,570 --> 00:07:22,890 So we ask people what peace like means to them. 49 00:07:24,780 --> 00:07:31,770 And in Sri Lanka, the Everyday Peace team were working on the issue of reconciliation. 50 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:44,940 And in a focus group involving Sinhalese people, Sinhalese or the majority in Sri Lanka, they ask what would peace mean in your life? 51 00:07:45,630 --> 00:07:56,340 In everyday life? And someone said, well, peace would mean that the Tamils sat at the back of the bus, that they knew their place. 52 00:07:57,910 --> 00:08:01,480 Well, this took us aback. Because. 53 00:08:02,940 --> 00:08:12,600 It reminded us of Montgomery, Alabama, in the 1950s where African-Americans had to sit at the back of the bus. 54 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:23,820 It reminded us of racism. But troublingly this was racism or bigotry genuinely held. 55 00:08:24,300 --> 00:08:26,760 We were dumbfounded. We were uncomfortable. 56 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:38,550 But actually, many of the things that are happening in relation to peace at the moment raise tricky ethical and practical problems. 57 00:08:38,940 --> 00:08:45,300 And I want to come on to some of those later. When we sketch the current. 58 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,759 Seeing of peacebuilding the current landscape. 59 00:08:50,760 --> 00:09:00,600 In terms of peace, it might be worth thinking in terms of a ledger, in terms of deficits and surpluses. 60 00:09:01,140 --> 00:09:05,520 So let me begin with the deficit. 61 00:09:06,270 --> 00:09:10,320 And it's quite a list, for example. 62 00:09:11,530 --> 00:09:17,740 Political leaders in the West rarely talk about democracy or human rights anymore. 63 00:09:18,870 --> 00:09:26,910 When you think back to the early 2000s, you may or may not have an opinion on Tony Blair or Bill Clinton, 64 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:32,430 but they actually did talk about human rights and democracy. 65 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:39,550 It's worth noting that there are no new UN peacekeeping missions. 66 00:09:40,090 --> 00:09:44,170 We know demonstrably that peacekeeping works. 67 00:09:44,530 --> 00:09:54,040 Yet, for various reasons, the UN has not instituted any new peacekeeping missions in many years. 68 00:09:54,460 --> 00:10:03,430 In fact, two weeks ago, the UN Security Council voted to start withdrawing from Congo. 69 00:10:04,660 --> 00:10:09,340 There are few comprehensive peace accords anymore. 70 00:10:09,580 --> 00:10:13,100 Indeed, there are few. Peace processes. 71 00:10:13,250 --> 00:10:17,060 Comprehensive peace processes. Any more? 72 00:10:18,110 --> 00:10:22,670 We can say that the liberal international order is fragmenting. 73 00:10:23,420 --> 00:10:31,270 That. The rules based international order is under strain. 74 00:10:31,810 --> 00:10:35,770 Now, this is not to romanticise that international order. 75 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:44,650 It caused many problems, but it did give some guide rails and protections. 76 00:10:44,980 --> 00:10:49,240 It did improve and save some lives. 77 00:10:49,540 --> 00:10:56,230 But that order is gone. The liberal piece is over and it's not coming back. 78 00:10:58,560 --> 00:11:06,240 We see the rise of authoritarian conflict management, in which there is no attempt at negotiated outcomes. 79 00:11:06,780 --> 00:11:13,200 And David Lewis, Claire Smith and many, many others have written very well on this. 80 00:11:13,590 --> 00:11:20,010 I'm talking about states like Israel or Saudi Arabia or Myanmar or Sri Lanka, 81 00:11:20,310 --> 00:11:27,960 in which it's demonstrable that there is little interest in negotiated outcomes in relation to conflict. 82 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,850 Instead, there is the pursuit of military outcomes. 83 00:11:34,590 --> 00:11:46,320 We've also seen the securitisation of migration in many places in the United States, in North Africa, in parts of the Middle East and Europe. 84 00:11:46,680 --> 00:11:55,320 We see the return of very old technology, the technology of fences, the technology of wire fences. 85 00:11:55,500 --> 00:11:58,620 In an age of digital technology. 86 00:11:59,130 --> 00:12:06,330 The Europe that celebrated the pulling down of the Berlin Wall is the same Europe 87 00:12:06,630 --> 00:12:14,670 that has built nearly 2000km of anti-migrant fencing over the past few years. 88 00:12:15,180 --> 00:12:23,940 In fact, we see a 19th century technology coming back that technology of transportation. 89 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:34,700 It used to be that. Convicts were transported to Australia and other far away territories. 90 00:12:35,030 --> 00:12:45,680 Now the UK is proposing to transport migrants to Rwanda, so this deficit list is pretty long. 91 00:12:46,700 --> 00:12:55,340 But perhaps what's most damning is that political leaders don't seem to have optimism in relation to peace. 92 00:12:55,730 --> 00:13:00,620 They don't seem to have what might might be called the vision thing. 93 00:13:01,250 --> 00:13:07,850 Instead, politics tends to be reactive, tends to be inward looking. 94 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:14,810 And as I said, the liberal peace is over and it's not coming back. 95 00:13:16,510 --> 00:13:23,560 But let's look at the surplus side of the ledger on that. 96 00:13:24,070 --> 00:13:34,450 Actually, there's probably more peacebuilding and peacemaking activity going on than we might first anticipate. 97 00:13:35,530 --> 00:13:50,710 So, for example, actually there have been a large number of peace accords at the local level, amnesties and indeed Covid ceasefires. 98 00:13:51,310 --> 00:14:05,420 Much of this was unreported. Indeed, Christine Bell and her team at Edinburgh University found 101 Covid ceasefires. 99 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:16,730 They also found 344 written local peace accords between 1990 and 2023. 100 00:14:17,300 --> 00:14:22,820 That's a lot of peacemaking activity, much of it unreported. 101 00:14:24,110 --> 00:14:29,540 We also need to pay attention to on the ground every day. 102 00:14:29,540 --> 00:14:37,100 Peace. My own research with others looking at the micro dynamics of peace in. 103 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:49,610 Colombia, Lebanon and Northern Ireland has shown that there is a lot of on the ground peacemaking activity. 104 00:14:50,270 --> 00:14:58,190 In fact, if we look at this study, we can see that people are very good at avoidance there. 105 00:14:58,490 --> 00:15:11,480 They also have a wide repertoire of other activities such as negotiation, cooperation, monitoring, involvement in politics. 106 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:17,450 And what this points to is actually the common sense of people. 107 00:15:17,990 --> 00:15:29,510 And if we look at the smaller of the pie charts, we can see that the majority of activities that people engage in can be classed as non escalation. 108 00:15:30,470 --> 00:15:34,160 And indeed there is a lot of de-escalation. 109 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:41,840 And what this shows is that people are not engaging in escalatory activity. 110 00:15:42,290 --> 00:15:47,540 The downside of this is that conflicts are often stuck in a holding pattern. 111 00:15:48,260 --> 00:15:52,070 And therefore we have long lasting conflicts. 112 00:15:53,290 --> 00:15:56,830 But if there is a basic level of security. 113 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:04,640 Then people and communities often find their own forms of tolerance. 114 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:10,130 They find their own level, their own modus vivendi. 115 00:16:10,430 --> 00:16:18,020 I'm not romanticising this, but sometimes communities find their own peace. 116 00:16:19,430 --> 00:16:23,480 Also on the positive side of the ledger, 117 00:16:23,870 --> 00:16:37,220 we see immense and very brave work on unarmed civilian protection in places like Colombia or Kenya or Uganda, or the fringes of Mayan law. 118 00:16:38,030 --> 00:16:43,880 We also see inspiring transnational social movements. 119 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:53,680 I'm thinking about activism on climate change, on the women, peace and security agenda, 120 00:16:53,980 --> 00:17:00,070 and indeed campus protests in relation to the Israeli assault on Gaza. 121 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:11,110 And in fact, one of the hugely underreported stories of our time is just how peaceful those protests have been. 122 00:17:11,500 --> 00:17:17,050 Just how peaceful? Multiple dozens, probably hundreds of. 123 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:23,660 Gaza related protests on university campuses have been peaceful. 124 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:41,420 We also see the promise of peace tech, the ability and promise of technology in helping intergroup relations, pro-social and pro-peace relations. 125 00:17:41,690 --> 00:17:53,390 We've seen an alternative security review in the UK that worked parallel to drawing up, uh, official command paper. 126 00:17:53,630 --> 00:18:04,910 We saw activists and those interested stakeholders thinking, well, what would security look like if it put people at the centre, 127 00:18:05,330 --> 00:18:14,510 if it was conscious of human security, if it was conscious of the importance of ecological security. 128 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:24,620 We've also seen an increased awareness of the links between humanitarianism, peacebuilding and development. 129 00:18:26,120 --> 00:18:29,420 With the United Nations. 130 00:18:31,260 --> 00:18:42,390 With the United Nations championing the issue of a triple nexus that tries to integrate approaches to all three. 131 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:51,750 In fact, it's worth noting at a time when many leaders in the West are disavowing peace. 132 00:18:52,410 --> 00:18:57,739 The international architecture for peace has never been more sophisticated. 133 00:18:57,740 --> 00:19:04,410 It has never been in such a research based place. 134 00:19:04,830 --> 00:19:07,830 We've seen the. 135 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,440 Increase development of an international peace architecture. 136 00:19:13,890 --> 00:19:22,290 We've seen the newly reformed UN Peacebuilding Commission and Peacebuilding Fund. 137 00:19:22,530 --> 00:19:26,580 We've seen the creation of UN mediation teams. 138 00:19:26,910 --> 00:19:31,110 We've seen peace being one of the SDGs. 139 00:19:31,740 --> 00:19:39,780 The Secretary-General has been pushing a sustainable peace agenda and also attempting 140 00:19:39,780 --> 00:19:49,680 to rework the seminal 1992 agenda for peace document into a new agenda for peace. 141 00:19:50,250 --> 00:19:54,000 And on top of that formal institutionalisation, 142 00:19:54,540 --> 00:20:10,320 we see an immense amount of activity and indeed experience in the third sector in terms of pro peace and pro civil civil society. 143 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:23,480 So, so far I've been talking about a ledger, which is a bit binary, negative and positive, but there is a lot. 144 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:30,250 That is ambiguous, that it's difficult to place in the ledger. 145 00:20:32,430 --> 00:20:38,520 There are a lot of issues that present us with ethical and practical challenges. 146 00:20:39,060 --> 00:20:47,760 Many of these are not new. They are instead perhaps newly visible or more visible. 147 00:20:48,390 --> 00:20:54,660 Certainly the peacemaking and peacebuilding landscape has become much more complex. 148 00:20:55,260 --> 00:21:03,840 As Mateo, Peter and others have argued. We see a fragmentation of the peacebuilding space. 149 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:12,360 Western assumptions on peace are being challenged, and that poses questions for us. 150 00:21:12,990 --> 00:21:17,640 Just how comfortable are we with this? 151 00:21:18,090 --> 00:21:32,100 In fact, I struggle to come up with the right lexicon to describe the different approaches to peace the West, 152 00:21:32,100 --> 00:21:38,430 the global North, the global South, alternatives, non traditional approaches. 153 00:21:38,850 --> 00:21:46,860 None of these terms seem to adequately capture what we're trying to see at the moment. 154 00:21:47,250 --> 00:21:52,890 We see a masala of new actors and new approaches. 155 00:21:53,100 --> 00:21:56,130 We see a lot of flux at the moment. 156 00:21:57,120 --> 00:22:00,750 And all of this leads to fundamental question. 157 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:11,810 Does this new or newly visible approach to peace mean that peace itself is changing? 158 00:22:17,300 --> 00:22:28,500 Peacemaking. Then we can see Omani mediators working in Yemen, or we see private peace entrepreneurs. 159 00:22:28,710 --> 00:22:38,670 We see, in a sense, self-appointed actors who are well connected, who are networked, trying to see if they can mediate. 160 00:22:39,300 --> 00:22:47,220 We see Chinese mediation in relation to to Iran and Saudi Arabia. 161 00:22:48,060 --> 00:22:59,040 China has been a major peacekeeping contributor over the past number of years, both in terms of personnel and resources. 162 00:23:00,450 --> 00:23:08,700 50,000 Chinese peacekeepers have served in 30 peacekeeping missions. 163 00:23:09,060 --> 00:23:13,910 In fact, in March 2024, there were all. 164 00:23:17,750 --> 00:23:22,460 The field. There were 27 from the United States. 165 00:23:24,620 --> 00:23:38,420 And if we remember back to June 2023, there was an African peacekeeping mission or an African peace mission to Ukraine and Russia. 166 00:23:38,900 --> 00:23:46,370 In fact, a few months before that, there had been a Chinese peace plan for Ukraine. 167 00:23:47,450 --> 00:23:56,510 And if you remember the media commentary in relation to the African peace Mission to Ukraine and Russia. 168 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:05,060 It was very patronising. It was along the lines of these guys don't know what they're up to. 169 00:24:05,660 --> 00:24:10,130 These guys are out of their depth. They don't know the context. 170 00:24:10,850 --> 00:24:16,490 They are very insensitive. They're just interested in publicity. 171 00:24:17,090 --> 00:24:21,610 Good publicity at home. But hang on. 172 00:24:23,230 --> 00:24:30,250 If we remember the liberal peace interventions of the 1990s and the 2000s. 173 00:24:30,850 --> 00:24:36,600 The criticism. Of those interventions was exactly the same. 174 00:24:37,170 --> 00:24:46,770 That these interventions in the former Yugoslavia, in parts of West Africa and elsewhere were shallow, 175 00:24:47,250 --> 00:24:58,440 were transactional, were linked to development or extraction, that the interveners were insensitive to context. 176 00:24:58,710 --> 00:25:05,860 They weren't listening. So we all want to diversify peace. 177 00:25:06,190 --> 00:25:09,600 We all want to decolonise peace. 178 00:25:09,850 --> 00:25:16,270 And in fact, if we look at this word peace, it does not refuse prefix us. 179 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,890 There are multiple ways we can describe this peace. 180 00:25:21,490 --> 00:25:31,510 But what are our limits? Do we have red lines in terms of what we would accept in terms of peace? 181 00:25:31,930 --> 00:25:41,290 For example, do we see gender inclusion as a red line or a universality of human rights? 182 00:25:41,770 --> 00:25:45,280 Do we see that as non negotiable? 183 00:25:46,990 --> 00:25:56,980 In many ways, these questions are not new. There has been a mixed economy of peacemaking in place for many years. 184 00:25:57,580 --> 00:26:01,720 This is an era of multi colorism. 185 00:26:02,380 --> 00:26:13,210 There is an uneasy competition between unilateral realism on one hand and the pragmatic multilateralism on the other. 186 00:26:14,330 --> 00:26:18,920 Yes, there are many difficult things to accept. 187 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:34,580 Many challenges, like they're the nature of peace has always been contested, so I'm not sure that the territory we occupy is particularly new. 188 00:26:35,450 --> 00:26:36,470 What is new? 189 00:26:36,620 --> 00:26:50,660 I think for those challenge, those in the West or the global North is that peace is being decentralised from the West or the global North. 190 00:26:51,410 --> 00:26:55,670 And maybe. That is not a bad thing. 191 00:26:56,450 --> 00:26:59,120 So thank you for your patience and your attention.