1 00:00:03,570 --> 00:00:07,920 Hello, my name is Melissa McCarthy. In 2019, 2 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:14,440 Sternberg Press brought out this book, by me. 3 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:19,420 It's called Sharks, Death, Surfers: An Illustrated Companion. 4 00:00:19,420 --> 00:00:30,190 It's hard to pin down the genre that best describes it. It's partly armchair ethnography, revisionist history, film criticism. 5 00:00:30,190 --> 00:00:37,060 It's an appreciation of certain forms of art and literature from classical times down to the present day. 6 00:00:37,060 --> 00:00:46,040 And it's also just a story about a line of investigation I undertook, sharing some of the brilliant things I discovered along the way. 7 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:52,460 My prompt to write it was this. I was interested in the obituary as a literary form - 8 00:00:52,460 --> 00:01:02,960 I studied English - when I carried out an interview with a professor of French called Andy Martin, who used to work for The Times. 9 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:08,170 The Times newspaper has a lobby correspondent who covers politics, 10 00:01:08,170 --> 00:01:11,570 A business correspondent who writes about business. 11 00:01:11,570 --> 00:01:23,420 Martin suggested to the editor that he should be their surfing correspondent, writing about the activity, the art, of surfing. 12 00:01:23,420 --> 00:01:30,700 They took him up on the idea and off he went to Hawaii. So I had an interesting conversation with him, 13 00:01:30,700 --> 00:01:44,680 and from it I started looking at Captain Cook and his journals; at ideas of exploring, mapping and encountering the world; and at surfing. 14 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:51,340 Then I realised that you can't - well, I can't - talk about surfing without talking about sharks. 15 00:01:51,340 --> 00:02:02,380 They're the flip side. The constant cartilaginous companion that's always with us, just the other side of the surface or the screen. 16 00:02:02,380 --> 00:02:08,890 And as well as the conceptual this prompted a lot of scientific research into shark biology. 17 00:02:08,890 --> 00:02:12,970 I looked at shark eyeballs, at the shark's osmotic processes, 18 00:02:12,970 --> 00:02:23,950 at its whole perceptual world and ecology, the 'merkwelt' as the excellent imported German word has it. 19 00:02:23,950 --> 00:02:28,720 And this set me thinking about a lot of other related lines. I looked at the Kennedys, 20 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:40,550 JFK and the rest of the constantly dying clan; at the physics of friction and slipping; I looked a lot at the book and the film of Jaws. 21 00:02:40,550 --> 00:02:49,020 It might not be apparent that these are related topics, but that's why I wrote about it. And the process of writing? 22 00:02:49,020 --> 00:02:59,000 It took a long time. I began the project when I was eight months pregnant thinking, well, I'll just try and knock this out before the baby arrives, 23 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:04,910 but it didn't work out like that. My process was that whenever I was free, 24 00:03:04,910 --> 00:03:12,300 I'd sit down every day with my pen and notebook with some postcards stuck on the wall to look at when I was pondering. 25 00:03:12,300 --> 00:03:20,210 And I just did this until I felt I'd covered everything. Then there was a year or so to pull it into shape. 26 00:03:20,210 --> 00:03:25,400 Nine months looking for a publisher. Six months of image research. 27 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:30,350 When I began writing, galleries and museums hadn't digitised their collections, 28 00:03:30,350 --> 00:03:38,640 but by the time I'd finished, there was a vast mass of material online which has been very helpful. 29 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:46,470 I'd say that the hardest part of writing was trying to work out the line between being too obscure and too obvious. 30 00:03:46,470 --> 00:03:54,130 When I stumbled onto a really good idea, it was hard to believe that everyone wouldn't already be aware of such an important discovery, 31 00:03:54,130 --> 00:04:05,580 but you work it out. And the third question I was asked for this podcast was what did I learn at Worcester that has helped my writing career? 32 00:04:05,580 --> 00:04:11,970 And this was very difficult to answer. At Worcester 33 00:04:11,970 --> 00:04:17,940 I learnt that it's a privilege to live and work in a really beautiful environment. 34 00:04:17,940 --> 00:04:23,610 I got into the habit of pursuing research and investigation right down to the end of the line. 35 00:04:23,610 --> 00:04:35,100 And then beyond that, I think that the main thing I learned was not at Worcester, but from or since Worcester. 36 00:04:35,100 --> 00:04:41,230 And that's that there's no point in rushing things. 37 00:04:41,230 --> 00:04:47,380 Ideas and people that you encounter can take a long time to filter through. 38 00:04:47,380 --> 00:04:55,360 There are parts of my book that have their roots in specific conversations that I had with my tutors, Mr Wilson and David Bradshaw. 39 00:04:55,360 --> 00:05:00,410 And there are parts that come from much more recent thinking. 40 00:05:00,410 --> 00:05:07,220 But the main thing I realised is that the point of something you learn at Worcester might not become clear to you until years later; 41 00:05:07,220 --> 00:05:15,420 these things take time. And thank you for giving me your time in listening. 42 00:05:15,420 --> 00:05:20,070 If this podcast has piqued your interest, I've also got a radio series you might like. 43 00:05:20,070 --> 00:05:25,260 It's available online called Melissa McCarthy's View from A Shark. 44 00:05:25,260 --> 00:05:29,639 But for now, that's it. Bye.